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    Gaming - dv6tqe/dv7tqe

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Bag3l, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. Wave Fusion

    Wave Fusion Notebook Enthusiast

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    What program are you using to read temps? I'm using Speedfan (with admin privileges), even though all I know how to read is temps.
    I'm asking because my processor is idling at 44-47 C
    Granted its 80 F ambient right now, but even when its below 60 F my CPU temps are NEVER below 40 C.

    Is it possible you've mistaken a core for the HDD temp?
    Because that is in fact 37 C on my system.
    My computer is on a large aluminum cooling pad (turned off).
    I wasn't happy with those temps compared to how my old P7350 and 9300M GS used to idle; but I think it's more or less normal.

    I just wouldn't want you to do something extreme like 'reapply thermal paste' for no good reason. If you have seen the maintenance manual, EVERYTHING including the keyboard, speakers, AND the display has to be removed to reach the processor.

    I wasn't afraid to tear into my old Dell XPS M1210 for my 1st total disassembly; but despite the DV7's immeasurable superiority and its much lower costs; I don't get a good vibe prying into this machine.

    I'd love a 1080p display, but between the exorbitant price for solo parts like that and the heavy risk involved in installing it, I may as well prepare for my 'next' computer 2-3 years for now, if I can make it that long =)

    I'd also like a 5 GHz card like the Intel 6200, but I heard the BIOS might reject cards not pre-authorized.. so that's a total wash.
     
  2. Wave Fusion

    Wave Fusion Notebook Enthusiast

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    I sent my computer in for repairs once. It was because I had my computer on the couch on a TV tray with foldout legs, was making dinner and set the tray on the couch by itself.
    There was a crash..

    The tray didn't just tip over.. only the right-side legs of the tray slid off, making the DV7 tilt clockwise 50 degrees, but, because it was plugged into a cooling pad on the right side, it swung around 180 degrees impacting on the left side corner near the fan vents, scratching the back of the screen an partially shattering the bezel near the screws.

    Ultimately the internal fan was the major damage and the fall dislodged it to where it made this horrible drill-like sound. Fortunately my warranty evidently covered "cooling fan defects" that were "completely unrelated to an alleged fall"
    Also, I had dead pixels fixed, and the replacement screen kit came with a new bezel anyway.

    I asked if they could bump me to 1080p while they had it and they said no.
    (1080p displays were still new and hadn't arrived at the Texas repair facility)

    Anyway I'm reminded every day never to try that again..
     
  3. weggman

    weggman Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hope someone knows the answer to this: So, I just grabbed the downloadable game Orcs Must Die! Really cool, but it has a really annoying glitch: In systems with switchable graphics options, the game will only run on the low-end integrated card. If you try to force it to run on the better option, the game will fail to launch. The developer is aware of the issue and is planning a fix, but currently claims that the only work-around is disabling the integrated card so that the game doesn't even see it on launch. I tried disabling the Mobile Intel Graphics Card through the Device Manager, but it results in my system falling back on (what I assume, since I'm no tech wizard) is some kind of super-basic motherboard video-output device. I say this because after the Intel Graphics is turned off, Windows reverts to very basic graphics options, nothing but the simplest colors and a resolution that maxes at 1024x768. It's as if, after disabling the integrated card, my 6770m is also knocked out. Thing is, if I check the device manager, it still shows up as enabled. Any ideas?
     
  4. dwalk1989

    dwalk1989 Notebook Evangelist

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    do you have the recent BIOS update?
     
  5. weggman

    weggman Notebook Enthusiast

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    Probably not... How would I check if I do? And how would I get it if I don't?
     
  6. dwalk1989

    dwalk1989 Notebook Evangelist

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    google "HP drivers" and find your laptop and it will bring you to your driver page

    it will have a download for a BIOS update that you just run and then it restarts the laptop. it creates a setting in the BIOS you can change so you can switch between "dynamic switching" and "manual switching". if you don't have the BIOS update, then you're using dynamic switching which can cause some issues with switching to the ati graphics. updating the BIOS and using "manual switching" and then manually choosing to always use the ati graphics will usually fix issues like the one you described.

    so reinstall your graphics drivers to correct whatever you uninstalled then do the BIOS update then go into your BIOS and choose manual switching instead of dynamic switching.
     
  7. weggman

    weggman Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks, dwalk. That does sound like it could fix my issue. I'll try it all out.
     
  8. weggman

    weggman Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well, I did as you suggested. I now have the most recent BIOS update according to HP's support page (the update from roughly three months ago), but when I enter the BIOS during start up, all of my options are identical to my previous ones. I see nothing about about "switching" options. Is what I'm looking for not in the usual place?
     
  9. dwalk1989

    dwalk1989 Notebook Evangelist

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    should be a setting someone that lets you switch between "dynamic" and "fixed mode"

    fixed mode is what you want
     
  10. MRunabout

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    Your switching won't be viewed from the BIOS screen. Once you log into Windows and you right click on the desktop, the first option should be something about the graphics, click on that and you should be able to manually switch to and from.
     
  11. weggman

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    You're right: I do have that option now. Unfortunately, that's not exactly what I was looking for. I need a way of disabling the integrated card and running everything off of the 6770m. I don't mean simply switching from one card to another; I mean completely turning one off and relying totally on the other. Like I said earlier, if I do the obvious and disable the Intel chip in the Device Manager, the graphics get really funky. Logically, I figured that after disabling, the 6770 would simply become dominant and take over all of the graphical output duties, but that isn't actually the case. It seems like turning off the integrated card also disables the 6770m. It's really odd. What I need is a way to run the 6770m with the integrated card uninstalled.
     
  12. dwalk1989

    dwalk1989 Notebook Evangelist

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    this laptop doesnt work that way. while switching between cards does shift the brunt of the workload from one card to the other, the intel card is always displaying the image so its always doing something. so what you're asking isn't possible.

    however, in fixed mode set to the 6770m, it will always do the work. while in fixed mode, make sure you're set to "high performance." there's no way the intel card can be enabled if its set to high performance in ANY program while you're set to fixed mode.
     
  13. weggman

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    Okay. Good to know. I saw others elsewhere doing it with similar but different laptops, so I hoped there was a way to get it done. Not so, however, I guess. Thanks for all your help.
     
  14. DrFetus

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    Weggman, what exactly is the issue here? Choosing the fixed mode option in BIOS and then choosing the high performance GPU in Catalyst means that the 6770m will be driving the graphics output for whatever program you run. It's basically the exact same functionality as having only a 6770m in your PC. There is no point to completely disabling the Intel graphics.
     
  15. Wave Fusion

    Wave Fusion Notebook Enthusiast

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    I can explain why this laptop works this way. Both the main display and the HDMI and VGA display ports MUST work, no matter which GPU is currently in use. To do this, when the AMD card is in use it still does a pass-thru to the Intel side in order to reach the same ports

    There were HUGE problems on desktops with SG because each GPU had a different video output port. When you swapped GPUs the screen went blank.
    This pass-through allows all the ports to work all the time.

    I noticed it when GPU-Z said my 6770M only had a PCIe x8 connection instead of x16. Not that it matters since the 2.0 revision has twice as much bandwidth.

    Anyway, its pretty cool having a 17.3 inch "gaming" PC that weighs less than 7 lbs and gets 3x-5x better battery life than more expensive notebooks.
    I didn't exactly buy it for that, but I'm pleased they didn't just isolate it via precision laser because I didn't explicitly ask for it.
     
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    anyone tried Dirt 3 on the 6770m?? the game wont go fullscreen for some reason, I have tried everything but cant find a solution :(
     
  17. xAcid9

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    ^ for manual GPU switching u can only use DX9 to play Dirt3 in fullscreen.=\
     
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    oh so thats why...
    do u know how to run the game in DX9 mode?? ;)
     
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    con247 Notebook Consultant

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    please update the benchmarks on the first page. It would be great if you can include recent games such as Rage, Deus EX HR, Red Faction Armageddon,...
     
  22. cyanide911

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    I'm getting 40-45fps on Crysis 2 on Gamer (Lowest settings)
    DV6 6121tx (i7 2.0 GHz, HD6770M (not OCd), on AC power, Coolsense performance mode)

    Is this normal or is my machine underperforming for some reason?
     
  23. xAcid9

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    ^ on 1080p resolution? i only play on 1366x768 but my FPS is better and i used Med-High settings.

    Try playing it on Coolest mode instead of Performance Optimize.
     
  24. cyanide911

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    Nope, on 1366x768 :(

    Wouldn't coolest disable i7's turbo boost? I'll give it a shot though.

    What else could be causing this?
     
  25. dwalk1989

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    what graphics drivers are you using? maybe you have an overclock program running thats underclocking? powerplay turned off?
     
  26. xAcid9

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    Yes, but since Crysis 2 is pretty intensive on both GPU and CPU, it might throttled down your CPU to 1.2Ghz while playing.

    Which graphic driver u're using?
     
  27. cyanide911

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    I'm on the default HP drivers (straight after a minimal system format using HP recovery).

    I'm confused about which driver to install, and from where.
    Someone told me to download 11.9 from Twitter, but there are 3-4 11.9s :S
     
  28. cyanide911

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    I haven't ever ran an overclocking program. Posted about graphics drivers above...
     
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    My dv7tqe keeps crashing when I play BF3 (playing early with the VPN trick). After playing for couple of minutes the screen just freezes, then the game minimizes and I cant get it back up again. It doesnt show as not responding in task manager but it obviously crashed. I've tried playing on all graphic settings and it crashes regardless. Happens in both MP and SP.

    I have the 6770m 1gb card and cat 11.10 preview 3 drivers. Nothing is overclocked. I had zero problems during the BF3 beta, so I'm lost as to what is causing these crashes. The laptop isn't hot at all, so I dont think its an overheating issue. Anyone else run into this problem?

    *Well apparently it says the display driver stopped responding but has recovered. Looked up some troubleshooting and it was basically a long useless list of every single thing that could go wrong with a laptop.
     
  30. dwalk1989

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    its the drivers and the only real way to find a solution is to try other drivers
     
  31. zippo718

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    Yeah I had to go back to 11.5 drivers. I guess its subpar performance for me.
     
  32. dwalk1989

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    you using the DNA drivers?
     
  33. xAcid9

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    i had the same problem with Cat 11.10-preview 1, it kept crashing whether i overclock it or not.
    In the end i removed it and reinstall DNA 11.8.3. No problem at all except an error will popup when u launching the game. Just click 'OK' and u're good to go. :cool:
     
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    Ah I tried installing DNA before but couldnt get past an error. But using ReadyDriver fixed that.
     
  35. leshric

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    I have a dv6-6190us with the 6770m and I can't get Battlefield 3 to run at all. Right now I have the 11.10-prev3 driver only installed on top of the standard HP 11.4 package. When I run the game through Origin, it brings up Battlelog (in IE9) but none of the buttons do anything. No popup, error message, or log entry that I can find whatsoever.

    Are any of you guys able to run the game? Thanks!
     
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    BF3 runs smooth with a combination of high and medium settings, but the DNA 11.10 Prev 3 driver crashes the game at random points. I am trying to get back to an older driver. Overclocking doesn't work in my favor with the Prev 3, by the way.
     
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    Well did a full uninstall and I'm gonna try the DNA 11.8.3 and I'm uninstalling and reinstalling BF3 and Origin. I'm getting frustrated with my $50 paperweight.
     
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    Yea I gotta it running on preview with combination of High and Medium. Still occasionally crashes. But its whatever by far the best looking game I have ever played.
     
  40. ragefaced

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    BF3 not running doesn't seem to be a driver issue. Its probably Origin messing it. Uninstall everything (Origin and BF3) and start anew. Run all updates on Origin and cross your fingers.

    Right now I am following this guy's advice with DNA 11.9.

    P.S. Direct link to 6100 CTO HP drivers.

    EDIT

    BF3 doesn't recognize DNA 11.8.3-prev. Says my current version is 0.0 and I need 11.7 or higher to play the game. Trying 11.9 from AMD website now.
     
  41. xAcid9

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    ^ i just clicked OK and it goes into the game.
     
  42. ragefaced

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    It didn't for me. I moved back to HP drivers until AMD comes out with a newer driver.
     
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    Thats weird, dont you get the same message with HP drivers too? Says its 11.5 and needs 11.7 min. I've gotten both and it still lets me start the game with the DNA drivers just like the HP.
     
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    Mines been running perfectly after I reinstalled HP support assistant. I believe I'm using the drivers from HP and I'm getting around 30 FPS with everything on high (Auto) At 1900 res
     
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    i have been playing at 20 fps on high with 11.10 preview 3 for couple hours with no issues on fixed graphics at 1080p no oc yet
     
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    Just a warning for everyone with a DV7. If you play BF3 longer than an hour the video card will start to overheat badly. I'm running everything stock.
     
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    this definitely isn't the case for my dv7
     
  48. Seroson

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    Really? maybe I just need to put a fan or get a cooler for it.
     
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    I haven't been on these forums in a while (since before the DNA Drivers) I came on here today after a Clean install on my new SSD so that I can find the best possible display drivers... I currently have stock driver 8.83.6.3 I have wanted to update but every time I update with AMD drivers im told my device isn't compatible (I figure that's why everyone uses DNA) Now I was ok with this at first but I tend to want to milk every ounce of performance. Would anyone mind explaining anything new to me or what they believe the best drivers currently are along with any Pros/Cons they've noticed? either here or PM i'd really appreciate. Been out of the game for a while. Trying to read through this thread too. Thanks in advance!

    Edit: I'm a little new to AMD(EXATI) Drivers I use to love messing with my old NVIDIA drivers id try a new set every time Laptopvideo2go released them. Anything I should know about AMD?

    Right now all I have to show for these drivers is the WEI (Below) Haven't gotten 3dMARK Installed yet (although I made 20 good runs with various settings/power/condition in the past and have them written somewhere) Won't install 3dMark till my HDD Cable/Caddy kit arrives in a couple days so I can do it on the 750HDD instead of the 64GB SSD MAIN. I will post results on any suggested Drivers I use though when I do install it.
     

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    I've been using 11.9 for a month or so. The stock driver was giving me some tearing issues..

    I noticed many people have overclocked the GPU and I was wondering what the odds are of overloading the power supply.
    I'm measuring 125W from the mains under load, fully stock speeds, and the PSU is only rated to 120W. In fact it could be holding me back already.

    To be honest I'm not sure what happens: If the computer wants more power, does the supply just goes over its rating or does it always peak near its rating?

    Surely running at peak capacity constantly is bad, and surely the hardware demanding more power than is available is also bad.

    I'd obviously like to consider OCing the GPU because its the bottleneck in my system. But I may already be at my available power and thermal limit.
    I mean my power brick has its own heat sink! Something is clearly wrong here..
     
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