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    Gaming - dv6tqe/dv7tqe

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Bag3l, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. KoreanEvoke

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    BF3 has been crashing endlessly for me using Leshcat's 11.12 WHQL as well as 12.1 Preview.

    Just some information for anyone who wanted to know.
     
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    @xacid9, i didnt have anything else running when i was trying to switch gpus.

    could it be because i didn't use driver sweeper to fully uninstall my previous hp drivers.

    or is it because i incorrectly installed the software.

    they dont require hp ccc (for switchable graphics), right?
     
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    How Can You Play Game On DV6-Quad??

    It gets too hot, when playing BF3 and L.A. Noire....My CPU temps reaches 95 and 100.....and I have stopped playing....Let me know plz
     
  4. xAcid9

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    ^ With cooling pad? Coolsense already set on Coolest setting?
     
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    You may have a bigger problem. I play BF3 and WoW on mine and the CPU never goes over 80.
     
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    you need to buy a cooling pad, I too was having crazy numbers about 92 after 20 minutes of bf3, with the cooler master U2, I don't go above 84, that's with my 6770m Oc'd to 850/1000, I'm getting about 35-45 fps on average with ultra settings, aa off, low shadows, everything else on high or ultra
     
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    I was running furmark today and with coolsense set to coolest i got a solid 81-82c (Ran it for 20 mins.)
     
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    Anyone have benchmark comparisons of the 6770M and the 7690M?
     
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    Anyone else play Empire: Total War. Just picked this up yesterday for my laptop.

    Top of the line dv6t, with 8 gigs ram, 2 gigs dedicated video, 750 gig hard drive, quad core processor, and I get 4 to 8 FPS in battles. I got 100 FPS in the loadup video, but as soon as a battle loads, it drops to 4 to 8. When I moved the graphics down to low, it still hovers around 8. This can't be right... Does anyone else know a fix? I know this game has lower FPS than most, but I have played the Shogun 2 demo on the same PC and it plays flawlessly. This, on the other hand, is awfully choppy.

    Anyone with similar problems/a fix?
     
  10. scy1192

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    Try setting your GPU to fixed in the BIOS. The only thing I can think of is that it's using your Intel HD Graphics.
     
  11. brownm339

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    How do I do that?
     
  12. Ritzy Cat

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    You will have to make sure that your BIOS is compeletely updated. I don't have the exact link for them, but someone else can redirect you to the link.

    You can check if you have them already updated by pressing ESC I think, when your computer starts up. Then you can change your GPU from Dynamic to Fixed. The reason you have to do this is because some games are based on OpenGL, and the dynamic switching has an issue with it.
     
  13. Dr. Bass

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    I have a link in my sig,
     
  14. solat152

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    Sorry but I just couldn't read through every single post. Will a dv6tqe with a i7 2670, 8gb of ram and a 2gb 7690M run Civ 5 faster than my desktop.

    Don't laugh but on my Alienware Aurora i7 920, 6gb ram, and a 5870 once I reach about 150 turns each turn takes about 2 to 3 mins to complete. Which makes the game not that fun. And yes I know who buys an Alienware. I will never make that mistake again.
     
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    hey guys i have a dv7t i7 2670 8gb ram 750gb hd and 1gb 6490m , now i don't play games or do any photo editing , is there a reason why i should upgrade to the 7690m ? or is my money better spend buying a ssd or the new momentus xt?
     
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    You don't need a 7690m. If all you do is browse the web/watch movies or unintensive stuff, go for a SSD.
     
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    I don't think it will run faster.. that 5870 in your desktop is much much more powerful than HD6770M and i7-920 ain't that slow either.
     
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    Hey,

    Wondering if there's better alternatives to the graphics drivers HP Provides. I go to the AMD/ATI site and try to use theres but I always get errors since they wern't made with the switchable graphics in mind I guess? Anyways I have always loved fine tuning what drivers I use in order to boost performance but having only one choice kind of sucks.

    Thanks!
     
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    Achmed Notebook Geek

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    Hi everybody, i just bought saints row third and i was fixing the settings but im kind of lost . Should i enable anisotropic and anti aliasing , and what settings do i put shadows , reflection and lightning?I have the 6770m .Thanks
     
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    Achmed -

    You should enable both to whatever level you can without causing poor performance in game (anti-aliasing will usually cause large performance drops).

    Anisotropic filtering refines the edges in textures. this is more noticeable when viewing something in the distance or at odd angles. more or less this creates an image with less blur in objects and scenes that aren't being looked at by the camera directly on.

    Usually this setting does not have a large impact on performance and can be set to full without much consequence.

    Wiki : Anisotropic filtering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Anti-Aliasing smooths the edges on images and textures that are not being viewed in there native resolution or screen ratio (causing jagged edges). If you've ever watched CSI this has the effect that they fake of "Enhancing" the overall image.

    Example 1 Crysis: http://www.techspot.com/articles-info/73/images/Comparison_01.jpg

    Example 2 Unknown: http://common.ziffdavisinternet.com/util_get_image/16/0,1425,sz=1&i=161082,00.jpg

    The downside is that AA can have a huge performance cost so if it does drop the level until game performance hits your preference. (You should try to keep avg frame rates about 24 Frames Per Second.)

    Wiki: Anti-aliasing filter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Hopefully that helps.


    Everyone: So I posted about which graphics drivers I should use and how. My system seems to now be excepting new drivers so i've installed DNA 12.2 here are the results


    3dMV: Stock, Stock = 6066
    3dMV: 12.2, Stock = 6975 (STABLE)
    3dMV: 12.2, 840/3600 = 7979 (66C) (STABLE)
    3dMV 12.2, 855/3800 = 8081 (STABLE)
    3dMV: 12.2, 855/3900 = 8115 (Possibly Unstable Needs Tuning)

    This is the first driver i've tryed other than stock but i'm liking these numbers.
    Also the driver is far more stable than stock.. Stock drivers sucked.

    Anyone getting anything better with diff drivers? Also 3dmark says my score is low? I havent used it in a while is this a gimmick/add or is it for real? it suggests my CPU is getting 12693 and that it should be getting 17000.. Is this right? if so what reasons could cause a low score? all I can think of is that the i7 has automatic clock scaling and that maybe it take a moment for it to ramp up during tests.
     
  21. Achmed

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    Thanks for the reply, i disabeled AA and put anisotropic to x8 .Only problem is pop up issues, is it because of my settings or a common game problem?
     
  22. SilasDG

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    I haven't played saints row so i'm not really sure what you mean by "Pop Up Issues" can you give an example?
     
  23. Achmed

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    Like when driving, cars suddenly appear at a short distance .Other objects also pop up.Only occurs during driving
     
  24. SilasDG

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    This sounds like either a render distance issue or some form of a resources issue. (You see this in minecraft a lot)
    There are 2 ways this can occur

    1. If render distance is set relatively short then you come up to the scene to quickly for it to render correctly.
    You can move across the rendered scene quickly enough that the next portion isn't rendered in time. This isn't all that uncommon and is different depending on the game. Sometimes games have settings for how far the distance is rendered.

    2. If system resources are low (in my experience usually ram) the system can't handle a large amount of pre-rendered/pre-processed scenes.
    with my minecraft example this was a ram issue. if you've every played minecraft this is also the reason you can sometimes briefly see "through the world"


    Can you please list your system setup? (RAM, Graphics Card (with amount of graphics ram 512,1GB,2GB), Processor, Display Driver and possibly ATI Settings?)
     
  25. Achmed

    Achmed Notebook Geek

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    I got 4gb ram , 6770m 2gb and an i7 2.3ghz.Is it related to FOV ? The only settings are shadows,reflection,ambient , lightning and scene , AA and AF.I dont know which are related to the problem
     
  26. SilasDG

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    Feild of View is different it shows objects around you (360*) not farther away it also is more of a personal setting than a render setting.

    With 4GB, the 6770 2GB, and the i7 you should be running SR3 fine. Have you checked power settings, cool sense settings, and make sure you're running on the AMD and not the Intel integrated (this is a common mistake). Also which graphics driver and catalyst version are you running (check the ATI settings not the windows setting as they may show the intel driver) alo what is the name of your i7?
     
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    if your FPS is low, you should never enable Anti-Aliasing and try to lower the shadow detail.
     
  28. Achmed

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    My fps is 35 and 25-30 while driving with AA and shadows disabeled. Im running catalyst 11.8 and graphic driver 8.0...... I put coolsense on coolest mode , so is it affecting?
     
  29. SilasDG

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    While I doubt its the source of your troubles you should set coolsense to "performance mode" when gaming as its actually capable of throttling clock speeds for the CPU. Coolest = Downclock + Fan, Quiet = Downlclock - Fan, Performance = Standard/Turbo Clock + Standard Fan.

    According to Coolsense
    "coolest adjusts performance to avoid temperature increase"

    I've actually noticed performance differences when doing heavy gaming.
     
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    i've installed DNA 12.1 drivers and they rock. big thanks to all you guys promoting them. now i can play wow on ultra (minus shadows and sunshafts) and lol on ultra without any issues.

    loving this notebook for the price i paid (sub $1k)
     
  31. rufusj89

    rufusj89 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can anyone give me an idea of the gaming capacity of this machine ?

    HP dv6t SE

    •dark umber
    •Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    •2nd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450M Processor (2.5 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 3.1 GHz)
    •2GB AMD Radeon(TM) HD 7690M GDDR5 Discrete Graphics(TM) [HDMI, VGA]
    •FREE UPGRADE to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    •750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    •Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
    •No additional security software
    •6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    •15.6" Full HD HP Anti-glare LED (1920 x 1080)
     
  32. SilasDG

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    "The AMD Radeon HD 7690M (sometimes also called AMD Radeon HD 7690M XT) is a fast middle class graphics card for laptops i 2011. It is basically a renamed Radeon HD 6770M with 100MHz higher memory clock speed."
    -NotebookCheck.net

    GPU-

    This is the only difference I could find between the two processors as they are the same chip with a higher clock same amount of stream processes and the same type of memory. (The default for this chip is 725/900)

    I've overclocked my Gpu to 885/950 from the stock 725. My usual OC is 840/925 though as 885 is unneeded. With 840 I can play most games at Ultra High settings on my 1600X900 screen. Even Crysis is playable on High.
    Now you can overclock this chips memory probably to something like 1000-1050 memory but it wont do much as memory in my experience hasn't been the bottleneck on this card the core-clock has been. This card is more or less the same as the 6770M

    In other words this GPU will be able to play pretty much any game above MEDIUM graphics on your 1920x1080p and is relatively future proofed.
    (Note: the 2GB is = 1GB version as the hold back on this GPU has always been the core clock)


    CPU-
    The Processor is the same as a 3.1 Turbo Quad Core is plenty of power for anything you're going to throw at it.

    RAM-
    You will not use all of the 8GB (i've the same set up) So no worries here.


    HDD-
    The HDD will actually be the bottleneck of your system. HDD drives will result in slower boot times along with applications opening slower. Once things are up and running though this will not effect anything. Also the larger the HDD is the slower the seek times will be.


    Battery-
    If you're using this for gaming you may want to get an extended cell as this setup will be a power drainer (using switchable graphics will help with this when not gaming)



    Overall this system will be a medium-high level gaming setup.
    Don't plan on playing most games at ultra without an overclock though and know that a couple games will not go past medium on that 1920x1080p screen.
     
  33. Achmed

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    @Silas It turned out its a common problem .Many reviewrs talked about the noticeable pop up while driving .Thanks for suggestion.Anyway if i want to update my driver from 11.8 , which is the best driver in terms of performance?
     
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    I recently made the jump from 11.12 to 12.2 preview drivers.
    The first installation bricked my CCC.. you cannot install the driver ONLY on top of the HP driver, like I usually would

    But on the second attempt I just deleted EVERYTHING, I have the new core driver, new CCC, and the individual application graphics profiles.

    Also, oddly enough Switchable Graphics (manual) is still available.

    There aren't any specific advantages in the release notes between 12.1 and 12.2, that mean much to me, but everything works well.

    I hate the install process so much I will probably just stick with these until some major incentive to update again.
    I don't get perfect installs often so I'm not going to mess with it for no good reason
     
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    Thanx for the valuable input :)
     
  37. SilasDG

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    @rufusj89 No problem!

    Hopefully that problem is fixed/soon. atleast you know what it is :)

    While I cannot say for sure which driver is the "best" Since i've only tryed a few I can say that 12.2 DNA drivers are excellent. I actually went from arround 6000 (Stock HP Driver No OC) points in 3dVantage benchmark to around 7000 (12.2 DNA Without OC) (Pics at bottom)

    If you decide to use 12.2 follow what Wave Fusion said and do a clean install with the full package (dont select just drivers at install) While I did not receive errors personally upgrading straight from HP I would not be surprised. Also id make sure your Intel drivers are up to date before hand via the HP site.

    Note* 12.1 as mentioned by others are also good drivers.

    WARNING:
    Since you have a 64BIT system you will either have to hit F8 at boot and select "Disable Driver Signature Enforcement" every time you boot OR use Ready Driver Plus. Ready driver is a simple installer and it selects Disable Enforcement for you at every boot. Its simple clean and it works. If you don't do this your driver will not run you will have a display but at wrong res. (This is due to windows 7 64bit not allowing modded drivers.)

    In case you need them
    Driver links and driver/registry cleaners (use after uninstalling driver via Driver Installer or Device Manager)

    12.2 DNA Driver: DNA-AMD GFX 12.2.1-preview | Do Not Argue
    Driver Sweeper: |MG| Driver Sweeper 3.2.0 Download
    CCleaner: CCleaner - Download.com
    Ready Driver Plus: http://www.donotargue.com/dna-amd-gfx/SetupReadyDriverPlus.exe

    Pics in order.
    Stock Driver/Stock Clock
    12.2DNA/Stock Clock
    12.2DNA/OC 885/925
     

    Attached Files:

  38. Achmed

    Achmed Notebook Geek

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    @Silas Thanks so much for the links.Im kind of a noob in these stuff, so i directly download the drivers and install them? Then use the Ready Driver?Or should i uninstall the original drivers using driver sweeper then install?
     
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    Download the DNA driver and ReadyDriverPlus. Install RDP and reboot. After that install the driver without removing your HP driver.
     
  40. Achmed

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    Thanks , and its 100% safe ? Better than 11.8 ? Just scared since i just got the laptop
     
  41. xAcid9

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    Yup.. better than 11.8 and the new CCC with Catalyst Application Profile is awesome.

    100% safe for me. Your mileage may vary tho. :D
     
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    Catalyst Application Profile can be installed without the need to update the driver?
     
  43. xAcid9

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    No you need to update the driver as well and i'm not talking about this CAP.

    This one.
     
  44. Achmed

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    So i download the DNA drivers and then download the catalyst profile and everything works?Thanks
     
  45. xAcid9

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    Yes. You don't actually need CAP but no harm i guess.
     
  46. SilasDG

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    For sure 100% safe even if you had a bad driver install you could easily uninstall it and reinstall it or another driver with no harm done.

    Remember Ready Driver Plus is only needed if you are running 64 bit and is not needed for 32 Bit.

    You have 2 Options for driver install.
    First Option

    1. Download Ready Driver and Install it.
    2. Download CC Cleaner and Install it
    3. Download DNA Driver and install it ontop of the HP driver with its entire package.
    4. Clean up using CCleaner (Optional)
    5. Start>Windows Update> Check for updates> Search for AMD/ATI and HIDE IT!.


    Second Option
    1. Download Ready Driver and Install.
    2. Download DNA 12.2
    3. Download Driver Sweeper and Install
    4. Download CC Cleaner and Install
    5. Uninstall HP Driver (2 Options)
    /// 1. Start Menu > Device Manager > Display adapater > AMD > Right Click Uninstall
    /// 2. Unzip DNA Driver > Start DNA Driver Install > Select Uninstall All
    6. Run Driver sweeper and select Amd/ATI drivers and sweep restart if asked
    7. run CC Cleaner selecting all registry values run and clean.
    8. Open DNA 12.2 Install and select Install when asked select all.
    9. If DNA says there were errors and provide a log open it and see what errors sometimes it says install finished but doesn't install drivers.
    10. After system restarts use CC Cleaner again.
    11. Start> Windows Update> Search for AMD UPDATE and HIDE IT!
    12. You're done!

    If Option One works smoothly and the AMD Catalyst reads the right versions (12.2 /8.940) than there isn't much of a reason to do option two unless your system becomes unstable (games crash and system pops up a notification saying "AMD XXX Driver Has Crashed and Been Restarted." Some people Claim better performance with a clean install but i've tested the difference before and never seen much if any difference.

    The reason for the update hide is that windows auto updated back to an older set of AMD drivers for me after my 12.2 install it was a painful process as 12.2 did not want to reinstall after this until multiple driver sweeps and uninstalls.


    ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

    I may have asked this before but does anyone know if there are any modded BIOS out there for this laptop? i've tried google but the results are scarce/different models.
     
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    Hey all,

    Setup my graphics settings to fixed to dynamic in BIOS and test run the one and only game I play (iRacing). After the test run I switched back to the Intel GPU and noticed that the picture on the display was almost like white washed where white colors were sort of bleeding into the surrounding pixels. That's the best way I can describe it. Any idea what caused this? It's only happened once but I haven't tried it again yet...

    Brand new dv6t-6c00 with 2GB 7690M XT, i7 2720QM.

    Maybe a GPU driver issue? Little bit of a newb with this stuff. Any help would be great.
     
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    I tried installing 12.2 drivers on top of hp drivers, used cc cleaner and bf3 crashes just like it did before with the message "amd drivers just recovered bla bla bla" I did method 2 a clean install, drivers are installed but same thing I get crashes with the same error not even 2 minutes into a game, I can't seem to be able to play with any other drivers other than the HP ones, which sucks because when these updated drivers do work, the fps i'm getting is out of this world, please someone help me and send me a set of drivers I haven't tried
     
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    can u take a picture of the problem?

    @Fictorie10
    Have u set CoolSense to Coolest? Try untick PowerPlay and overclock the GPU to 800/900.
     
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    set coolsense to coolest, unticked powerplay and overclocked gpu to 800/900, I'm getting about 9 fps on low settings bf3

    Set powerplay back on to maximum performance 75ish fps however that is when my system hangs up and gives me the error saying driver recovered or what not, any other suggestions, I'm trying everything to get these drivers to work but they don't seem to like me for some reason
     
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