Gaming - dv6tqe/dv7tqe

I underclocked to 650/700, powerplay on, everything seems fine 55 fps, after about 45 minutes, crash, but this time it didn't say that the driver recovered it was just bf3 that hung up and it showed me back to the desktop, I'm starting to believe it is something up with the patch they just released, this is BS

 

It hasn't happened again but I will try to do it next time it happens. I haven't forcefully tried to do it.

Should I download new driver for my 7670? Will it perform better?

 

same settings as before, underclocked 650/700, drivers 12.2 WHQL certified, coolsense to coolest, powerplay set to maximum performance fps about 50, played in windowed mode and nothing seems to have gone wrong, played through a full round of conquest with no issues, it seems to me that the google chrome browser bf3 update might be the cause of this because while I was in windowed mode, the browser plugin would update and make that noise like something new updated while I was still in game before while playing full screen that's where it would kick me to while bf3.exe would still be running, when I tried to go back to bf3 it would give me the bf3 blue mouse cursor but only show my current window which would be battlelog..

I'm going to experiment some more tonight but I believe that for right now this should work, I'm going to try OC gpu again to 800/900 and increase resolution to 1440x900 to see maybe if that balances the card or if I get any hang ups again

 

i post here my results to compare drivers!
Specs;
Dv6 6c00 series
core i7 2670qm
8gb Ram
AMD 7690m XT 2gb GDDR5 stock clocks at 725/800
1tb Disk

3dmark vantage stock drivers stock clocks:
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3dmark vantage stock drivers clocks 900/1000:
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3dmark vantage Leshcat package 12.1 v2.7 900/1000:
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3dmark vantage DNA package 12.2 900/1000:
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I think it is good for a quick comparision

 

Can anyone give me an idea of the gaming capacity of this machine ?

HP dv6t SE

•dark umber
•Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
•2nd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450M Processor (2.5 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 3.1 GHz)
•2GB AMD Radeon(TM) HD 7690M GDDR5 Discrete Graphics(TM) [HDMI, VGA]
•FREE UPGRADE to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
•750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
•Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
•No additional security software
•6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
•15.6" Full HD HP Anti-glare LED (1920 x 1080)

Just one more thing.

HP has added a few more configurable options.They have added the option of adding a 1Gb 7690m.Should I opt for that or the 2 GB version ? Will a 7200rpm 750 Gig HDD upgrade be worth the 20$ ?

In simple terms,
1Gb 7690m+750 Gb 7200rpm HDD or
2Gb 7690m+750GB 5400rpm HDD ?

Future proofing is definitely on my mind at this moment.Going to hold onto this system for the next 2-3 years atleast.

Also,is OC'ing the GPU possible without changing the voltage values ? Does it adversely affect the GPU in anyway(Life reduced) ?

 

definitely go with the 7200 rpm HDD, 2GB on the gpu will not increase the performance of the card from what i've read on all over the forums

 

Agreed. 2GB VRAM won't bring any significant increase in performance. So far only BF3 was able to use 1GB VRAM on my 1GB GPU and that didn't happen regularly. Didn't notice significant performance decrease when that happened too.

You will notice much better system response with 7200rpm HDD.

 

@xAcid9 btw no DNA drivers I found on guru3d have liked my computer when I play bf3, I tried your suggestions and follow different methods of installing the new drivers and everytime the drivers would shut down even when in windowed mode.

I am only able to play bf3 full screen 1440 x 900, everything on low, stock newest HP drivers and I'm getting a healthy 55ish fps, not shabby at all

I'll stick to these and hopefully hp releases some new drivers soon because the DNA drivers really do perform a lot better, sad that my system can't handle them

 

But the 2GB 7690m = 7690m XT which is a tad bit faster than the 7690m. If that is future proofing(in any form),it sounds a viable option right ?

 

As mentioned by myself and others the VRAM is not the bottlneck on this card. The 2gb vs 1GB will have the same performance.

For the HDD 7200 vs 5400 is usually not noticeable as there are far more factors in the speed of the drive (Seek times etc). I have personally switched back and forth and never had a real noticeable difference.

Either way your choice will not have a huge impact on performance the one thing I would keep in mind is the HDD can always be changed later and probably will (laptop HDD's fail at a higher rate due to movement). So if you're concerned about your choice that's one thing to think about.

Overclocking:

You do not need to change voltages to overclock and on a laptop system its best not to as you will increase heat with a voltage OC.

I heard somewhere (sorry no source) that every 5* C that you increase after 75 will reduce your hardware lifespan by 1 year unless it was designed for it. Personally I have OC my systems to around 75 and never had an issue (my last laptop lasted 4 years and I gave it to my brother who still OC's and uses it with no issues) Graphics cards, Tjunctions, and CPU's are usually rated to 100* C and wont fail until well over 120* (but YOU DO NOT WANT to head past the 80's*C

Note: The Temperatures listed were at Maximum use (During 3dVantage Benchmark or heavy gaming) They are not intended as idle temps!

I will look more into this in a few hours.

 

depend of model, the envy 17 cames with 7690m XT with memory clock higher than dv6, the quantity of memory doesnt mean Faster memory, so dv6 came with 800MHZ memory, and envy 17 with 900mhz memory

 

how I wish I could run 8.93, .94, .95 drivers on my radeon 6770M gpu

*breaks into tears like a like girl*

 

So I just installed 12.3 and 8.950 I will Benchmark them today and get back with my experience.

Edit: Benchmarked 12.3 + 8.950 is crud (for the time being) they are still extremely new though so give it time.

They scored 3672 in 3dvantage btw the 8.940 drivers score 6975 (stock clock) They were noticeably slower. I'm reinstalling 940 and 12.2.1 i will have screen shots later.

Edit 2: I hate to say that I mistested the previous drivers. For a reason unknown to me the 8.950 drivers reset the plugged in settings inside ATI Powerplay to "Maximize Battery life" while I checked all the gaming settings in ATI I failed to check this as it has never changed on me before even with clean installs. Anyways I noticed it after changing drivers back but its always such a hassle doing a clean install on here that i'm leaving them alone. Sorry everyone!.

(As a note the power saver setting in power play on 8.940 does not give me the incredibly poor desktop performance that I had with 8.950 so in my opinion they're still poor)

Why cant you? I'm running 8.940 on my 6770M GPU

Edit: Never mind I forgot you had the BF3 issues. Sorry

I can't find proof of this anywhere. Where are you getting this info. The clock will be higher than that of the 6770 but since the question is between the 1gb v 2gb of the 7690M only I cant find any evidence that the 7690M has a lower clock rate than that of the 7690M XT 2gb. Also when i search it up the 7690M 1GB is known as the XT as well.

 

yeea I'm a loser lol no but those 12.2 drivers are the shizzznittss tho

 

I was looking it up online and was going through various forums and came up with that ^^ .Not sure where though.Can anyone confirm otherwise ?

 

Sorry if I came off a bit rude about it =p but everything I can find indicates the same clocks. but I cant find anything actually posted by nvidia so i'm not sure.

 

I missed that deal

Managed to come acros this one though.

Looked around for a lot of time and missed a lotta great deals. Ended up with this config for the HP dv6-6c53nr. Unfortunately,I am unable to find much info about this particular model online .

Any comments on the config ?

DISPLAY | 15.6 in diagonal Full HD anti-glare LED-backlit (1920 x 1080)
PROCESSOR | Intel Core i5-2450M 2.50 GHz with Turbo Boost Technology up to 3.10 GHz
MEMORY | 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz
HARD DRIVE SIZE | 750 GB SATA 5400 RPM
OPERATING SYSTEM | Windows 7 Home Premium
OPTICAL DRIVE | SuperMulti DVD burner MEDIA DRIVE |
SD/MMC AUDIO | Beats Audio with 4 speakers
VIDEO | Intel HD Graphics and ATI Radeon HD 7690M XT switchable graphics with 1024 MB GDDR5 and up to 4096 MB total graphics memory
PORTS | 2 USB 3.0 • 2 USB 2.0 • HDMI • 2 Headphone output • Microphone input • VGA • RJ-45 (10/100/1000) BATTERY | 6-cell lithium-ion (up to 6 hours, 30 minutes)*
CAMERA | HP
TrueVision HD Webcam WIRELESS | 802.11b/g/n • Intel Wireless Display (WiDi) capable (separate adapter required)
BLUETOOTH | Yes D
IMENSIONS | 14.88 x 9.71 x 1.23-1.39 in (377.95 x 246.63 x 31.24-35.30 mm) WEIGHT | 5.78 lbs (2.62 kg)
COLOR | Brushed Aluminum
OTHER |
Model number: HP dv6-6c53nr
NO BLOATWARE

Initially I was hoping to get the DV6t SE for around 800$

HP dv6t SE

•dark umber
•Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
•2nd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2450M Processor (2.5 GHz with Turbo Boost up to 3.1 GHz)
•2GB AMD Radeon(TM) HD 7690M GDDR5 Discrete Graphics(TM) [HDMI, VGA]
•FREE UPGRADE to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
•750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
•Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
•No additional security software
•6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
•15.6" Full HD HP Anti-glare LED (1920 x 1080)


but like I was saying, the deal for the above has expired

*Is the MicroSoft store legit(NO refurb/used business)?How about delivery and shipping ? Any personal experiences ? How late/early can I expect the order ?
*Any idea about the actual loss in gaming quality over the 2 GB GPU?
*Any additional info about the actual model(NO info online )

Any comments would be appreciated.

PS:Its president day sale.So,I dont wanna miss a deal.Again.

Thanx in advance

 

Sorry for the slow reply normally I check all the time but i've gotten busy.
Edit: Guess it wasn't that slow according to post times. I hadn't checked all day figured you had posted it a while ago.

This system should do you pretty well although keep in mind that the processor is an i5 and most likely only a dual core not a quad like the i7 so it will have roughly half the power

I do not know the default low end for the i7 dv7 but mine was midrange so ill use it.

Example : i7-2720QM (Mine) = 7010
i7-2450M (CFIG) = 3764
C2D-P8600 (Old) = 1626
Source: PassMark Software - CPU Benchmark Charts (passmark cpu)

Example : 6770M (Mine) = 6072
7690M (CFIG) = 6451
Source www.notebookcheck.net


Now this processor should be more than enough for daily tasks I cannot say as to it's gaming performance though as I my old processor (the C2D) is <=1/2 of your configs proc and the proc was never generally the bottleneck. (although it wasn't a champion by any measure) overall I like the config (and in fact I am jealous of the idea of a 1080p screen)

CPU = Decent (Shouldn't bottleneck)
Ram = Decent (6GB should be good for most needs) (Won't B/N)
HDD = Good size, medium performance
Graphics = Great for model/class (Most games will run high if CPU doesn't B/N)
Optical Drive = OK (Note: remember you can upgrade to bluray later EASY)
Battery = Great for portability OK for battery life vs 9cell great for battery life OK for portability

Audio = Great. I hate brands that sell by name like beats but I have to say the beats audio in HP laptops sounds nice and loud I love it. Results may vary though as the dv7 has the sub and the dv6 doesnt but it shouldnt matter ive turned it off and it isnt that noticeable.

Display = Should be pretty nice but I haven't seen it for sure so I can't say. as the dv7 has a 1600x900 and its crud but my old dv5t-1000 had a 1680x1050 HD Gloss infinity was b-e-a-utiful. so HP screens vary.

OVERALL: I think this should be a pretty decent laptop good for day to day use as well as the modern gamer on the go.

Remember that if HP suddenly drops the price within a few weeks of purchase OR suddenly offers an upgrade for free (Better HD, graphics, ram, cpu, etc.) to call hp support (or web chat) for a free refund of the amount. I did it twice on my laptop and get refunds for the HDD and graphics card. (they give you the cost of the upgrade) Price protection rocks.

 

Thanx mate Much appreciated !

The deal is available on the Microsoft store(President's Day sale) ! Any comments on that ? Anything I should look out for ? Is it completely legit and reliable(Comapring to the HP store) with regard to warranty and all ?
Also,future proofing is a big deal in my case.HDD and RAM are upgradeable I guess so that's good. Blu Ray isnt that big of a requirement,I guess.Guess GPU and CPU are the future proofing points of contention.

EDIT : new coupons released online :|

Now i get to choose between

i7 2670M+2GB 7690M+13366*768 for 800$ or

i52450+1 GB 7690m XT+1920*1080 for 750$

Confused now. :\

 

I unfortunatly have no input on the microsoft store other than having purchased cheap copies of Win7, MSOffice2007-2011 it seemed pretty straight forward but again cant say. I would assume all warranty issues would mostly get handled through HP but I can't be certain.

Whats the price on this laptop?

Have you checked to compare the price on HP's site (They are very good about warranty I had an issue during a repair where they scratched my screen and in the end they replaced it with a laptop of $400 value higher and my laptop was 2 years old!. Other times i've had issues they were quick (within a week turn around) and did a great job detailing and doing anything asked.

Looks like HP has a high price on that model right now. (around 890 for your setup +8GB Ram Free upgrade) a lot of times HP does 25-30% off coupons randomly but i've no idea when they will again.

In the end this laptop will handle day to day tasks until it actually breaks down. I assume 4-5 years for any laptop 2-3 for people who are abusive to them *cough* me *cough* I got 3 Years accidental damage for that reason aha.

Gaming is another matter. 2-3 years id say mostly any game 1-2 for sure. again though I make no promises as I haven't owned an i5 proc.


EDIT: I would def choose the i7 no contest.

 

You have been very helpful Silas

EDIT:
New coupons released online :|

Now i get to choose between

i7 2670M+8 GB RAM+2GB 7690M+13366*768 for 800$(HP SITE)

i52450+6 GB RAM+1 GB 7690m XT+1920*1080 for 750$(MS Store)

Confused now.AGAIN!!! . :\

 

Choose the i7. Screen is upgrade-able later (if you feel up to it) or now if you want to pay it. Lower screen rez= higher performance which = longer future prof.

You can also always HDMI out to a tv or desk monitor later on.

Proc is far superior (Rated at 6815 on CPU Benchmark. )
Edit: Please read below/ Please provide with info as to the nature of the cpu (dual core i7 or quad core)

Proc + Faster GPU +8 GB of ram no contest (all of that will be noticeable in every day and gaming)

Just on a value perspective:

Proc = +$230 on HP
GPU = +$50
Ram = $75
-1080P = -$150
-Extra Cost = -50

Total = + $145

I would say green light that i7 no question.
You will be happy no doubt (although upgrade that screen if its an option/can be afforded.)

You're welcome man it's my hobby when i'm bored aha.

Edit: Do me a favor and hold up 5 minutes im researching the proc Edit: DONE!
Edit 2: Researched proc. Only able to find the i7 2670QM listed anywhere (not the 2670M) everything I find though (including intels site) suggests the 2670M doesn't exist and is probably in fact the 2670QM. If it comes down to the wire id go with the i7

 

PHP:

My bad.It is the 2670QM indeed

Only place where I would have any chance of using the FHD screen would be in gaming.Movies and stuff,I have used the 720p till now(Atleast 85% of the stuff I view).Rest of it is DVD quality Satisfied till now.

I understand that pushing the GPU i might be able to play games in 1920*1080 but I was wondering how much of a quality loss I will get on screen during gaming.

The actual config at HP for ~800$
• 2nd generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2670QM (2.2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 3.1 GHz
•2GB AMD Radeon(TM) HD 7690M GDDR5 Discrete Graphics(TM) [HDMI, VGA]
•FREE UPGRADE to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
• 750GB 5400 rpm Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
•Microsoft(R) Office Starter: reduced-functionality Word/Excel(R) only, No PowerPoint(R)/Outlook(R)
•No additional security software
•6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
•15.6" High Definition HP LED Brightview (1366x768)

 

What do you mean by quality loss?
if you mean image 720P vs 1080P you wont have to much loss it will still look nice.

if you meant frame rate you will see lower framerates on the 1080P as there are more pixels to draw which requires more gpu power.

The screen should look nice. Personally I have my 1600x900 screen on my laptop and a 32" 720P Vizio at 1366x768 hanging above my desk because it looks nice and is larger so I can get work done and feel more "in" movies and games. For a laptop the x768 is a nice screen.

Pros & Cons
1080P = Slightly Nicer image
720P = Nice image with better framerates
1080P = Future Proofing may be lessened slightly for gaming

Even without "pushing" the gpu most games should play at 1080P. Pushing the GPU should not create quality loss unless you've pushed it to far and caused artifacts/driver crashes. Again for this reason in gaming the 720p may be nicer as you wont have to push it to play anything on that screen at the moment. mostly anything will play mid-high(ultra) settings.

As an example I just played NFS: The Run at 1600X900 last night and ive the 6770M which has a slightly lower clock than this card. I was OC'ed and got 22 FPS avg (not the 24 recommended but still pretty smooth) this screen has slightly less pixels and a higher stock clock which means more frames because there is less to draw on screen (pixels) and if you push the cards clocks you can push it higher than mine since you start higher which means you can get better frame rates.

Remember You can get the 1080P Screen but the Graphics card can only push so much so if you get the 1080P Screen but it causes you to have to push graphics at medium settings instead of high like on the 720p because of framerate loss than the image will cover the 1080p screen but still wont look any better. (and possibly worse)

Other examples include: StarCraft 2, Valve Games, Dirt3, HAWX 2, Borderlands, Bioshock2. All at Ultra High and Crysis at High. Metro 2033 at High - Ultra


Seeing as it is the 2670QM I have to reconfirm what I said before and say this laptop is FAR superior to the i5.

Anyways i'm off to bed for the night. I should be back on and off tomorrow not as often though as i've a ton of work to catch up on i'll try to check in on this if I can for ya. Later!

 

TY so much for all the valuable info mate. What would I do without the internet

Decision on purchase will be made soon.

 

Edit to all:Just played Mass Effect 3 Demo with clocks at 800/840 Game was smooth as butter. 30 FPS Solid (believe it's locked as overclocking to 880/970 didn't have any effect on the FPS only time it went higher was during certain (not all) cinematics it would pop to 60 and lock.

No problem let me know what you decide!

 

Well, you can play the games in a lower resolution on a 1080p screen for increased framerate. That way you get the nice extra resolution for desktop activities. And some games aren't as taxing and then you do get the option for the higher resolutions.

You can't do the opposite; increase the desktop resolution on a 768p screen when you're not gaming.

The last couple of posts (haven't read back too much) haven't really mentioned that and given the impression that you're stuck with the native resolutions.

Some resolutions can get blurry look changing to a lower but personally I think a 1080p screen is worth it.

 

@SilasDG, @rufusj89:

SilasDG has been giving you excellent and very detailed advice; definitely should +1 rep him! This is why NBR rocks!

But I apologize if I seem to contradict just one aspect of Silas' advice regarding your screen choice. My advice: DO NOT BUY HP'S 1366X768 "Brightview" (BV) screen!!!! Get the 1080p option here, not because it's 1080p, but because it is an excellent screen and, more important, the alternative is one of the worst screens in the computer industry, barely acceptable on a $349 computer! Truly.

Even if you don't need or want higher resolution for gaming (you can always reduce it to get higher frame rate if needed), there's more to a good screen/bad screen than resolution, and the other things matter much more to the user, no matter what the application (gaming, movies, web surfing, work with multiple documents, etc). To keep this from being an even longer post, let me just list the characteristics of a screen that separate the crappy ones from good/great ones and assure you, the HP BV screen defines the term "crappy screen" but their 1080p screen does well in all/most of the areas that make a screen better, make what you see when you are gaming or watching a movie look awesome.

1) Brightness (In this case the 1080p for the DV6 is about 40% brighter than the 768p (app. 250 nit vs. app. 150)
2) Contrast (how dark are darks, how bright are whites? The single most important spec. for a screen and single biggest flaw of cheap, mass market screens; has nothing to do with resolution, but low-res screens usually are cheapest, and have lousy contrast. This is the "money" spec of a screen! No comparison in the case of the DV6 (approximations: 768p - 150:1, 1080p - 500:1).
3) Color reproduction This can get very technical. Let's just say that the better it is, the more vivid, life-like and eye-popping colorful action will look. Again, the better screen is "player" (far from best, but good) and the Brightview (BV) is a ZERO.
4) viewing angles - how far off dead center can you view the screen without it getting darker, inverting colors, causing glare to overtake the image? Makes a little difference for yourself, but makes huge difference if more than one person looking at the screen. Again, better screens tend to have better viewing angles, and you can't even have two people side by side watching a movie on the BV screen.
6) glare/reflection - glossy screens are better as mirrors than as display screens! Unless you are in a pitch dark room, glossy screens will pick up any light in the room and reflect it back onto the screen. Depending on the source of the light, you will often see your own face in the screen, like a ghost invading your game or movie!!!

It is extremely rare to find a screen this good (the 1080p option here) in a laptop even twice the price of this. This is pretty much the bargain of the century and I do advise that you get it. If the screen combined with everything else you want goes over your budget, I would advise you to reconsider other parts of the configuration. Screens can sometimes be upgraded later as a DIY, but it can be difficult at best and will cost you much more to retrofit it later than to get it now. More important: why should you accept a greatly flawed viewing experience for any length of time from a product you are buying to have great "VISUAL" entertainment experiences???

Best of luck.

 

Edit: As an addition to my previous Mass Effect 3 Post I have tried it on a 1080P 3d Screen. frame rates were 20-22 (21 Avg) at Max Graphics. there are only 3 options available in demo resolution, antialiasing, and dynamic lighting. I had everything in CCC set to "Quality" as well as the following settings.

AA = Enhance, Morpho, Edge-Detect
AF = Use AP, High Quality AF
Tess = AMD Optomized
C A.I. = HQ, Enable Surface Format Op
Mipmap = High
Vsynce = Quality
AA = Quality Super Sample AA
Adaptive AA = Enable, Quality
Direct3d = Enable Geo Inst
OpenGL = Trip Buf
Power Play = Max Perf
Windows Power = High perf
Coolsense = Perf
OC= 840/850 (Note: with or without OC no diff was seen... )
OC Cont. = (any higher and it would lock up. At 880/950 frame rates would not go above 22.)
Driver 8.940/12.2 (hopefully DNA releases a CFG for ME3

My guess would be that if I turned down the CCC settings I could easily blow past 24FPS.

I hadn't mentioned this for two reasons.
1. 720P on a 1080P screen is never the same as 720P Native. they're will always be some amount of blur/distortion from downscaling. (Unless it's windowed mode of course.)

2. He had mentioned his only real need for the screen would (for the time being) be gaming and that he was concerned with future proofing.

Thanks for that I do always appreciate rep but I will never ask for it since it isn't the reason I try and help people

I can understand that side of it glad to see another point of view . is the DV6 x768 screen really that bad? Again I have the dv7 so I don't know... I do know the 1600X900 on the dv7 is nothing beautiful but 1080p wasn't available at the time

I will say one thing while i'm sure love laptops is right about the contrast on these two screens. I just want to point out that day to day while contrast ratios are very important they are also hyped up and twisted a lot of the time.

What i'm saying is next time you go buy a monitor/tv don't just believe contrast ratios on the box. research like you are now.

 

yo all diablo 3 fans, just wanted to let u know that the 6770m will be able to max this game out easily, my screen is only 1368x768 but even when maxed out with anti aliasing on the fps never moved from 60, so 1080p shouldnt be a problem either

 

Yes.I have read about the screen distortion.I understand that the experience differs for different people.I would also like to say that the 720p screen(I have seen it in action in the dv6 series is nothing gorgeous/retina burning should suffice as I,in terms of content(multimedia) wouldnt be able to throw much of 1080p at it.

As in,the movies I watch are almost exclusively 720p's and lower and I find that a 2gig of 7690m VRAM can run everything(atm) at 1366*768 with maxed out settings.Sounds good enough to me.

I also get that the 1080p will be extremely color rich and the gamut will be pretty awesome,that it will help people who open multiple windows and work on them at the same time,but i find that a select number of people have found 1080p on a 15.6" underwhelming(A minority I know,but still ) and have actually gone back to 720p.Like I said before,the experience varies

Also,my work right now involves staring at a monitor for long periods of time and the strain that the 1080p with its small text might provide might actually be counter-productive(All the DPI adjustments and downscaling apart ofc)

Besides,if I wanted to watch HD content,I can just connect my system to a HDTV anytime right ?

So,I figured why not go with the better config (i7/2 gig of Vram/8 gig of ram/720p) right now.Thanx for the suggestions.

Haha ! I sure get that bit about the hype ! Man ! The animosity I am faced with people in the 720p vs 1080p faceoff is

And yes.I believe I am a bit(ok ,quite more than a bit ) more knowledgeable about this kind of stuff than I was before and will definitely look in to the finer details(pun intended ) before I make another such purchase.

PS:I actually didnt know you could add reps on NBR Well,better late than never,right ?

 

Yeah there is for sure opinion in these screens. I loved the room my old 1680X1050 on my DV5 gave me (it was beautiful to infact it had just the right amount of gloss) but the text was nearly to small for me on that and i've got perfect vision. I would have to enlarge the pages in chrome all the time.
Still the 1680X1050 was better for me than say a 1280X800. Idk how I would fare with a 1080P though (although once I have the money this 17.3 is getting 1080P)


With the rep no worries like I said i'm here to help not to earn brownie points. They're nice for knowing who is knowledgeable and that's why I like them.
Anyways Thanks for the Rep and I hope you enjoy the laptop if you have any questions with it you can find me or others willing to help here.

 

I had no idea it had come to that! I happen to be rather "passionate" in my personal enjoyment of high resolution displays, but I absolutely understand that not all people have the same preferences and clearly the advice provided you by SilasDG is more in tune with your preferences and needs than is my, clearly "biased" point of view . I stand "corrected," all in the name of helping you make the choice that is best for you, and respectful of the insights of others. I confess that I am not a gamer (or could you tell, lol) and I have heard that many gamers do prefer the native 720p screens to the FHD ones. I have found that knowledge about the pros and cons of different screen characteristics varies greatly among users, but clearly there is no lack of knowledge here. Best of luck with your excellent new computer, which I think is among the finest values in the market today.

Well, I'm glad to hear you have gained that knowledge here. I am a strong believer of showing appreciation to members who take the time and effort to help others to make important - and expensive! - decisions. Allow me to say that it is so refreshing to find a thread where people are true enthusiasts, not fanatics and clearly respectful of alternate points of view. Given how wide of the mark my "advice" was for you, I am most grateful that no one saw fit to flame me for my divergent point of view - thus, +1 to both you and to SilasDG for helping you confirm the choice that is best for you! Please report back how you are enjoying your new machine.

 

Aha well when I said hyped I more so meant the companies (vizio, sony, hp, etc) might be inflating their numbers. Don't figure you to be biased although everyone is but that can be an awesome thing it creates progress. (Note: I love that sony gets colored blue and linked but HP doesn't in this post haha)

I can't agree more it is awesome to come to a thread where you can speak openly. There is nothing I enjoy more than talking in a group over ideas, concepts, and views in order to come to a conclusion that helps to mesh all of the best possible outcomes.

IMO you gave good advice based on your knowledge of the situation. Like I said I totally get your side of it .

Thanks gave you rep! Btw do you have any suggested areas of NBR that are good for just posting/helping? I don't know my way around the threads yet I've always just stuck to my laptop buttt I know plenty (IMO) would love to start posting more around NBR.

 

@lovelaptops & @SilasDG :
Indeed ! Thank you both once again.Will definitely give my opinion/experiences once I get hold of my Dv6t QE.I might even do a detailed 'review' or something of that sort.

And yes,I will most prolly be back on NBR for other queries regarding the laptop.But will hold off till I get it in hand.

 

@Silas sry i never responded for your detailed instructions on how to install the drivers.Anyway i downloaded all the files but im kind of confused which way to install. Step 1 might give me crashes while step 2 will give me errors? Are you sure these are the right steps ?Thanks
Edit: If i follow step 1 should i install the DNA drivers over the stock ones which are 11.8 are should i update them then install over them ? And will i lose access to ccc ?

 

No problem. I was not saying that either option will fail or cause errors only that it is possible.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...150-gaming-dv6tqe-dv7tqe-135.html#post8313621

"If Option One works smoothly and the AMD Catalyst reads the right versions (12.2 /8.940) than there isn't much of a reason to do option two unless your system becomes unstable " -old post

Try step one if it works it works. If not try step two but when uninstalling video drivers on these laptops they do not like to re-install they fail install repeatedly. You end up either A. Getting lucky and it installs. or B. Installing the HP driver and refollowing step one after installing the HP driver.

 

Oh ,i unzipped the file and went into the drivers folder and installed the DNA driver windows7 but then a window appear " This package requires Amd Catalyst Install Manager to install " Would you like to launch AMD catalyst Install manager to install this package ? so i press yes and it installs stuff and i get a log :
Existing packagesApplication Profiles
AMD Catalyst Install Manager
ATI Display Driver
Microsoft Visual C++ 2010 Redistributable
Catalyst Control Center 2


Other detected devices

Error messages
Then i reinstalled the DNA driver but same thing happens it requires again the catalyst install manager ... Please help so confused ! Thanks

 

Did you run the DNA Driver installer and select uninstall? or are you installing over the HP drivers? also are you running on the AMD card or the Intel card?

I'm currently on the PCC School wifi and it is incredibly slow today <1Mbit so I will have to wait until i'm home in around 2 hours to download the DNA drivers so I can look directly at what you're doing.

 

Forget about that i got a major issue , when i right click and press configure switchable graphics nothing opens . when i press it i see in task manager processes ccc.exe but then it directly close. The last thing i want is to be stuck with the intel hd

 

You wont be stuck let me drive home and I will help you out ok? Half hourish

 

In my country its night so i need to go to sleep . But when you come please list any solutions for this problem .your my only hope Thanks very much

 

I need a detailed list of what you have done thus far along with any info from the device manager that shows what drivers are currently installed and if you can find anywhere the edition of CCC installed. also If you try installing DNA again list which selections you choose along with attaching the LOG from the DNA installer.

 

Ok so i did a system restore and everything worked fine .Now please download the file and tell me what to install and in what order. And do i need to update the 11.8 drivers then install the DNA over them ?

 

my dv6-6096 with the 6770 is having a loud and annoying fan noise while gaming. Really annoying.

Is it something i would face in a high end Sager laptop too? Or do you all play with closed headphones to isolate external noise?

 

Do you mean common fan noise or does it sound like a bearing is grinding or fan is hitting its housing? If it's common noise any machine with any amount of real power will have that. The DV6qe/7qe laptops are capable of producing up to 212*F and the only reason they don't produce more than that is due to processor throttleing. The GPU or CPU alone can produce those temps within two to three minutes of heavy use. (quicker without adequate cooling)

You will notice most high end laptops get pretty thick. That isn't just because the GPU is larger but also the cooling system some performance laptops have dual vents due to this.

On the other hand the laptop should only have moderate/no fan noise durring casual tasks like browsing if you're using the intel graphics card and have HP Coolsense set to "Quietest" The reason for coolsense being included is that HP knew this laptop would create a lot of noise when running hot but wanted to give users the option of a quieter laptop during casual use.

In other words i'm afraid for the time being fan noise in performance laptops is something that has to be lived with. That isn't to say there isn't a quieter laptop out there just that it will be hard to find out which one that is since the direction used when these laptops are built is towards performance/cooling and not noise levels.

 

Do you want to perform the clean install or the install over the HP drivers. (HP driver is probably easier if it's installed now and you've been having issues)

If you do want to do an HP over install go ahead and use CCleaner (only) and clean out all the registry with it. The system restore may have left bits and parts of the old driver behind and we want to make sure we don't have any more issues.

I have added a screenshot below of the AMD Catalyst Install Manager. Does you'res look similar? (your installer should have boxes around the check-marks as mine is listing that they're already installed. Also mine is not listing the driver due to it already being installed but it should be there.)



Note: i'm in classes from 11 AM - 2 PM Pacific time UTC -08:00 I will try to help you during but responses may be slow if class isn't.

 

Maybe they were listening to you - at least on my screen, your post (above) didn't hyperlink any of the brands (will laugh if it comes back on for this post, haha!) Btw, the people on the Sony forum (excellent for tech support) sometimes call me a troll, because truly I hate the way Sony treats its customers, though I love the one model I own, have ever owned, by them because it is truly a masterpiece of design (and surprisingly durable and reliable) in the ultraportable category. My experiences with HP over the years (owned/bought maybe 10 in past 3 yrs!) has been nearly universally positive. They can be sloppy with quality control but their prices are amazing and they are quick to replace - or refund - when you get a lemon. (Stay away from their "case management" process - they are very un-HP like and treat you like you are a moron )

You clearly have a lot to contribute (you've probably forgotten more about gaming than I ever knew!) so I encourage you. I sometimes just tour across NBR looking for threads that interest me, which is how I discovered this one - normally not one I would visit or post to, but always learning from them - though that's if you have time to waste.

If you want to go right to the place where you can both contribute the most and learn the most, head over to the " What Notebook Should I buy" thread. Lots of people - noobs and experienced - asking for advice on what to buy for particular purpose, price, etc.

Feel free to PM me if you ever have a question you think I might be able to help out with.

 

In addition to SilasDG's excellent information I would add that Sagers are known to be designed and built for gaming and other heavy duty/high temp. operations and probably often have better cooling systems, from more or stronger fans (= less noise because they don't have to spin their guts out to be effective), larger heat sinks, etc. To keep costs low HP tends to put high end components in laptops otherwise designed for light/medium duty use, such has the basic DV6 chassis. I've heard mostly great things about Sagers and particularly the independent distributors, who do final assembly and upgrades to them and are responsible for support. If you check out the Sager forum here, they are almost cult-like but it seems mostly earned. I prefer a mainstream brand but I am not a power user and I o) like my laptops to look cool. Sagers look to me like they were built by hobbyists but that is because they don't have the resources to design and produce custom cases and do put the cost into the components rather than design/marketing.

Oh, and, this may be obvious to anyone using high-heat machines, but opening up and changing the thermal paste both to put more and to use higher quality paste - this thread discusses it in depth. I've read that it can reduce temps by 10-20 degrees C. Also, if you are using a stock model from HP and not overclocking your CPU or GPU, the fan should not be off-the-charts loud and never grinding so at minimum a repair would be covered under wtty. Try to find a review of your model in notebookcheck.net or anandtech.com as they do the most thorough testing, even measuring in decibels fan noise under heavy load. Even if your machine is no different - ie, it's known to have a very loud fan under load - you still have a claim for replacement/refund if it is a design flaw. More often than not, I have found HP will replace, even upgrade your machine if it is "their fault." In my experience, you get the best result calling the Resolutions Dept (888-444-8834 last I used it; ask for "Long" and feel lucky if you can reach him, as he is awesome! Still calls me, a year later, to ask if all is ok and to offer truly great deals on new models) and always avoid the "Case Management" dept!!! Despite their title and stated mission, they are controlling jerks who will do what they want to do without regard for your needs/preferences and, bizarrley, once your situation is referred to them and assigned a number, no one else in HP support - including Tech Support and Resoutions - is allowed to even speak to you! I've had 3 such experiences in the last 18 months, which is why, for now at least, I am not buying HP.

Whew, sorry for such a long response. This is one area I have had a lot of experience with, so why not share? If you post a follow up and don't see my response in a day or two, PM me, because I don't always have time to go on threads.

Best of luck.

 

No its not similar , could you please tell me what to do with the file when i unzip it , there are dozens of folders and files. Hope im not bothering you while your in class