Gaming - dv6tqe/dv7tqe

I'm out of class. are you sure thats the DNA installer it looks to be installing 8.830 and the 2011 CCC.

I don't know all that much =p just figure it out as I go.. actually i'm just now taking my first actual schooling (Intro Unix, Intro C) Going good so far.
Point being everything I know is self taught/learned from the forums. I don't have a ton of time to waste but when I do this is a nice way to do it.
I will check out the thread you suggested and keep you in mind if I need anything thanks for offering up the PM!

Very true on systems with the same TDP (Thermal Design Power)

Very true one thing that always bothers me is seeing brands like HP, Dell, Toshiba offer laptops with a lower end option and then allowing an upgrade to a card/proc combo that has 2x-3x the max TDP but no mention of cooling upgrades! (IE extra vents fans cooling pads) Personally id pay an extra 50-100 for DUAL/Separate Heatsinks for the CPU/GPU.

Since the CPU has a MAX TJUNCTION temp that throttles the CPU performance down for safety at 100*C when the GPU is at 91C it heats up the heatsink and prevents the CPU from cooling effectively.. This results in performance loss from a CPU that can perform but cant stay cool enough to do so.

I'll second this. I changed the thermal paste on my DV5T-1000 that my brother now owns. (the one i've talked about in previous posts) dropped temps by around 5-10C When I have a reason to open up this laptop (cleaning it) I will be thermal posting this as well. My personal favorite is Arctic Silver 5. whenever I work on any laptop (mine or others) i always apply AS5. (Do NOT apply to thermal pads only to heat sink and cpu/gpu that don't have thermal pads) Application is super easy if you already have the laptop open.

On this topic i've added my personal "to do list" at the bottom of this post.

I half agree here. Under normal conditions it shouldn't be loud but gaming can heat it up pretty high and performance mode increases this (atleast on the DV7QE you will notice that if working probably after shutting down resource intensive processes you can hear the fan noise drop pitch and volume quickly over a few minutes all the way to none.

Hp support is great. my first hp laptop HP DV6500Z had a value of around 600 when I bought it. when they upgraded my laptop under warranty they upgraded me to the DV5T-1000 (value of around 900) and let me select the upgrades I wanted free. (I used the HP Case Management) this is the reason I purchased 3 yrs of ADP on this laptop as I know they come through.

-Sorry to hear about your bad experience with Case Management love laptops glad to know you at least found out who would help you.

No problem Good post.

My Personal "To do list" when opening up a laptop
1. Plastic cups and sharpy..
---Everyone thinks they can keep track of the screws.. ONCE.
2. QTips for cleaning the board/heatsink/fan
3. Clean the entire fan off and make sure it doesn't have "wobble"
4. Clean the heatsink
5. Tighten the screen bolts. It helps keep the laptop feeling solid.
6. clean out the keyboard and case. Replace if keys are broken ($15 avg)
7. Clean heat sink/gpu with Artic Clean/Reapply new paste.
8. check power socket for slight breakage replace now if breaking ($10)
9. tighten all visible screws (again tighter solid feel when reassembled)


Just as a note a 4 dollar tube of AS5 can do way more than one PC i've done plenty with one tube "3.5 gram tube will cover 20 to 30 small cpu's" -amazon

AS5 is non conductive and should NOT damage anything u spill it on.. still clean up any spills before powering laptop. Do not just leave AS5 on the board.

 

Yeah im pretty sure.

 

You may have to try the uninstall method. Follow my previous directions (option 2) it will probably give you some trouble at this point. if it doesnt directly let you install the DNA driver than reinstall HP and again try reinstalling over it if that doesn't work uninstall and download the latest driver from the AMD site and then install the DNA drivers. finally if that doesnt work try installing dna 12.1
http://donotargue.com/note/dna-amd-gfx-12-1-1-prev/
after installing everything from dna driver install just the driver of 12.2 and after it installs try installing the CCC from it.

Notes:
1. Sometimes DNA drivers dont like installing without a "base" driver being installed"
2. Sometimes they refuse to install over the HP driver.
3. I've done this driver install more than a few times.. It can be frustrating as hell because it is very finicky (sp) but if you mess with it enough it will eventually install.. After installing the 8.950 it was hell to revert to 8.940 it actually required an uninstall of 8.950 driver wiping i had to install the 12.1 driver then install 12.2 one piece at a time. it was frustrating and it's different depending on how you installed it the last time...
4. when you Download DNA and it extracts just double click "setup" nothing else in that folder matters to you.
5. when you uninstall the drivers do it through Device manager and then DNA and then ccleaner then driver sweeper. make sure it is gone in dev man.

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If it refuses to reinstall any AMD drivers you must reinstall the HP stock AMD AND Intel drivers. the intel driver hold a portion of driver switching that enables the system to see the AMD card. if it cant see the card it cant install the amd driver.

 

Umm , well i switched to the 6770m and suddenly catalyst install manager had many install options including new catalyst . So i did everything and now i have 2012 catalyst but noticed missing option like 3d game settings . Could you post a pic of your ccc? I now cant access my laptop so im posting from mobile.

 

I had this issue previously if you retry the 12.2 install and install just CCC it may fix it if not i fixed it by installing the 12.1 CCC only and then re-installing the 12.2 over it.

Well yeah you have to be using the card to install drivers for it. I thought I mentioned that but I guess not. The system doesn't see the card unless you are using it instead it sees the intel card this is the reason for the intel drivers needing to be reinstalled in certain cases that I discussed in the previous post.


Below is the attached shots of my AMD Radeon CCC
Can you please attach your new DNA Install window that you're on the 6770M when you're back at your pc

 

Retry the install through catalyst install manager? If i updated the catalyst does this mean the 6770m is updated?i forgot to check what driver version it is.About the pictures of ccc, some are missing so i'll try reinstalling. We will talk about DNA when i access my laptop

 

No Catalyst is just the control interface for the card it is not the driver they are two separate things. You need both though.

 

First i really want to thank you for your help and hope im not annoying you with these problems So now i got my CCC like yours and double clicked on setup from DNA and got an option to install the drivers like in the picture. I Installed them and then in the device manager there is a yellow sign near it like the computer didnt recognize it . I press on update and the computer recognize and installs them but they are back to 8.30 .Again sorry for all the noob problems . Thanks

 

Which update did you click? Windows update, CCC Update?

 

When i installed them , the screen resolution was low like there is no graphic card and there was a yellow sign near it in device manager , so i just right click on it in device manager and pressed on update and it installs the driver but it was back to 8.30.00 .Is there anyway to make it recognize it other than pressing update since it reverts it back to 8.30 . Anyway if it worked and its 8.940 does this means that DNA installed ?

 

If it says 8.940 was installed in the dev manager or in ccc (not the installer) than it was. this is most likely because the computer needs to be restarted and told to allow unsigned drivers as it disables the driver until it is.

 

After i updated using the Catalyst Install Manager it required a boot and then the screen resolution changed . And when i updated them to make the computer recognize them , i rebooted so i dont think restarting solves the problem . BTW why should i use ready driver plus in win64 , maybe thats what causing the problem ?

 

Ready Driver plus in windows 64 Bit selects Disable Driver enforcement at every boot so you don't have to. It is ONLY intended for 64bit and totally unneeded for 32 bit. At boot if you don't touch it it will Select "ready driver plus"--->"Windows 7"----> "Disable Signature Enforcement" it takes a few seconds but this way you dont have to manually hit F8 and Select Signature Enforcement every time.

Unfortunately installing the drivers through device manager is the same as using windows update and has indeed installed the 30 drivers... in my first post on installing these I said to "Disable Windows Updates for AMD" this may be an issue. First I want you to download the 12.1 DNA drivers try installing just the driver like you did CCC then install 12.2 Just the driver. If that doesnt work switch the HP drivers with the 12.1 drivers
Ex1: 12.1 (display only)---> 12.2 (display only)
Ex2 : HP (display only) ---> 12.1 (display only)---> 12.2 Driver (Display only)

Have you been using ready driver plus thus far?

 

You don't have to use ready driver plus but you have to manually disable driver checking at startup each time or the modded drivers won't load (RDP does this automatically in the beginning).

Steps I took to make it work:
Uninstall everything AMD related
Install HP Drivers -> reboot
Install RDP
Install DNA -> Reboot

Everything works fine for me.

 

I tried again by just installing the driver and same thing happend the driver versions were 8.940 but with a yellow sign and i noticed they werent signed in properties. I just need the computer to recognize them without pressing on update.Sahil04 i remove everything amd related , then download hp drivers or the computer already can install them ?

 

They will never say they are signed they are unsigned drivers thats why Driver enforcement needs to be disabled at boot

 

When you reboot after uninstalling the amd software your resolution should be crappy (800x600 I think?). Then install the HP amd graphics software and reboot and follow the rest of the steps.

 

Oh but the question is the hp graphic software i should download it ? i hate downloading large files since internet speed is so low . And by uninstalling everything you mean through catalyst install manager ? And if things didnt work when installing DNA will a system restore change things back to the way they were ? Thanks

 

If you have 8.940 Installed your issue is 99% driver enforcement.. I just booted into windows without disabling driver enforcement and the issue is the same.

Low Res+ Dev Man has ERROR along with stating "windows could not verify drivers as signed" or something like that. Just double check that

 

Tommorow i'll try to post images when i retry installing but as i remember when i boot and the resolution is low i get a message no amd driver is found.... . But in device manager i see 6490M/6770M/7470M/7690M XT and the intel hd below with a yellow sign both. And in properties i see version 8.940 and options to uninstall , disable , update, and roll back to older versions ..

 

You can download it from HP's site or you can use the driver from your SWsetup folder (in the Video folder, Setup.exe) if you still have it. I think that is the only way to uninstall the amd software (even if you go through add/remove programs in windows).

System restore should restore back to when everything was working fine but I don't think you'll have any issues.

Also, don't quote me on this this but I think if you don't care about the switchable graphics you might just be able to install the DNA drivers (you still need RDP). Installing the HP drivers first just ensures that switchable graphics still work fine.

 

I found the setup.exe and it installs the 8.30 so this is right? So i remove everything AMD , then install the hp ones and then DNA . Should i use cc cleaner ? And do i uninstall the drivers through device manager or uninstall everything through catalyst install manager?Cant reply anymore going to bed , will try it tommrow .Thank you noth

 

I believe you need to select Disable Driver Signature Enforcement after POST. Spam F8 when reboot and you will see that option or download and install ReadyDriver Plus from DNA website.

 

So i uninstalled everything related to AMD and rebooted . Then installed everything from the setup.exe in the DNA folder then rebooted and disabeled driver signature even though i have the ready driver installed . Now the computer recognized the new drivers and no yellow sign anymore . But the computer recognized it as the 6490M/6770M/7470M/7690M XT series , but still i got better fps in batman ac ( 60fps with everything high except AA on low ) . So is the computer recognizing it as the 6490M/6770M/7470M/7690M XT normal and in ccc the drivers are now 8.940... So DNA installed ? Thanks

 

Yes that's normal. and yes if CCC says 8.940 DNA is installed. When the drivers were modded they were changed to allow a large majority of cards to install it. So it shows different cards for two reasons.

1. The drivers are declaring the card as being named that.
2. Those are all the same card. The 6490M/6770M are the same chip at diff clocks so only the driver tells them apart.
2A. The same goes for the 7470M/7690M XT same chip with raised clocks so the only diff is what the driver calls it and sets the base clock as.

 

Oh so that means finally it worked Thanks all for your help especially Silas

 

Yup tis good. Were you planning on O/C the card or leaving it stock? If you decide to thats WAY easier than the driver install lol. If you're enjoying perf now with no issues no reason to though.

 

Now that you have mentioned it , i was thinking about overclocking but then thought of risks of overheating. I dont want to bother you again with a guide on how to overclock so i'll just google it

 

Lol basicly just download https://www.sapphireselectclub.com/ssc/TriXX/TriXX.aspx
Install
Overclock Core/Memory by 10 each time until you have instability or temps that are to high. Downclock by 15-20 from here.

Its about as simple as that

Note: idle temps need to stay below 80*C and perf temps should not go out of the 90's. Most procs and gpus Max at 100 and throttle to lower temp and perform automatic shutdowns at 105 for safety. Normal temps would be 60-75 idle (gpu) and 80-95 during gaming

 

wow i never thought overclocking would be so easy, thanks

btw I ran 3dmark vantage @ 800/900 and got great results
AMD Radeon HD 6770M video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2630QM Processor,Hewlett-Packard 1657 score: P7893 3DMarks

just a question though, in saphire do I need to change any other settings other than memory and core clock? like gpu voltage, fan controll and such

also do u think I will be ok @ 800/900 without a cooling pad?

 

Hi, I have HP Pavilion dv6-6b85ec with i5 and 6770m.
I have tried almost all driver configurations that I could find here and the result is still the same. The driver randomly shuts down and that usually results in system (or more like screen) freeze. I wanted to install the DNA drivers, which seem to be the most stable for most of 6770m owners, but when I installed the ready driver plus 1.2 and then DNA-AMD GFX 12.2.1-preview the installation didnt go well (lot of errors) and then the Windows would go black after every boot.
Now I will try to make a full system restore because of so many drivers installed and uninstalled and start from beginning.
I wanted to assure myself if I am doing everything correctly with my laptop. Do I have to install the HP driver and then the DNA or should I just install the DNA only? Thank you for your replys!

 

@oblivionrpg
You need to install DNA driver on top of HP driver. It is a must or else you won't have a working display package.

Google on how to increase TDR delay in Windows 7/Vista. See if it helps regarding "drivers stop responding" issue.

 

Quick question,

I'm running the stock HP Windows 7 Home Premium setup with original drivers (not modded DNA).

I ran 3dmark 11 basic edition and got this score, it seems fairly low no?

Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2670QM Processor,Hewlett-Packard 17FA score: P938 3DMarks

I verified that it was running off of the discrete card and not integrated, does anyone know why the score is so low? (Mode was set to High Performance as well).

 

As a note to anyone using DNA drivers! Leave a comment for your driver on the DNA site. He never gets enough input on the drivers and half the time doesn't know when something is wrong. He is usually quick to reply too (a day or two for me) Seriously though he has repeatedly asked for info both good and bad in order to perfect future builds (he is working on 8.950 Pre Certified now!) he has 3376 Views but only 31 comments half of which are his! As users of a free product I figure the least we can do is provide feedback

Yeah it's pretty easy. Do not change the GPU voltage. in stock drivers you can in the DNA drivers you cannot. The only time you up the voltage is to increase stability during an overclock but it has been tryed by a few people and does not help. Plus the card was not designed to overvolted and overvolting as a general rule increases heat quickly.

I personally do not have a cooling pad but I want one. It can't hurt since i've seen temps it sit around 93*C when gaming which really isn't that good for the machine (although it is still tech in spec.)


Are you able to overvolt with your drivers as my only 2 issues with the dna package is that some GPU widgets cant read the card temps/clocks while also having a longgg name that runs off the widget and trixx shows voltage as "0"
you're on 12.2/9.40 right?

Yes like Acid said make sure to install over HP. I have personally done a clean install before but it is pain that I will never do again.

After you do your system restore and get DNA drivers installed and CCC shows them installed and you try Acids TDR suggestion. if you still have issues and no one here has a solution you may want to call HP.

Nice. I googled this after you mentioned it. Thanks for that!

So Coolsense, AMD, and Windows were all set to performance or just one?

Also idk about the 3dmark11 scores on this lappy but have you tried vantage and have you made sure the 3dmark settings are at stock (dont change rez to your screen size)

 

Coolsense was off.
AMD is set to high performance when plugged in (powerplay enabled).
Windows is set to high performance in power settings.

I didn't change any of the 3dmark11 settings, is vantage something different?

When I run the test the graphics is really choppy and I get around 5-6 fps on average throughout the test.

Is that normal? I'll go look into vantage now.

 

Yeah that is a bit low. my old 9600M GT tested better than that in 3dmark11 for sure.. hm. Is this your first time benchmarking it or did you for sure have higher performance before?

 

Try uninstalling the drivers and then reinstall it , it might help .

 

Well I've done it a few times before but I'm almost pretty sure I've gotten the same low scores but never thought too much of it until I started seeing people getting higher ones lol.

The graphics card I have is the 7690m XT. Here is my vantage score:
Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2670QM Processor,Hewlett-Packard 17FA score: P4667 3DMarks

I'm not sure why it's not recognizing my graphics card, what I did was uninstall the stock drivers-> reboot -> reinstall from SWSetup -> reboot -> install DNA 12.2.1 Preview

Any idea on why it may be low?

 

Yeah id wipe the drivers install the HP drivers test those to see if the issue persists then install the DNA drivers. something is wrong somewhere.

 

Tried it twice and it's still giving issues,

I've had nothing but driver issues since I've received this laptop lol

 

I hate to sound like cheap tech support but. Its plugged in right? AMD powersave was high for both batt and plug?

What are all of your AMD graphics settings. Whats your processors set to in the high perf setting. Also would you mind downloading this gadget and doing something that requires 3d Use and tell us what it reads? http://blog.orbmu2k.de/sidebar-gadgets/gpu-observer-sidebar-gadget

Also it would be even more helpful if you could download GPUZ http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/2101/mirrors.php and tell us whats going on in there (Screen shots) Tell it to store a log.

 

Thanks for all the info, btw I'm using these drivers (12.3/8.95)
AMD Catalyst 12.3 RC (8.950.0 January 31) [Win7/Vista - All Cards Mod] Unofficial - Guru3D.com Forums
I tried DNA but I didnt like that thing that u had u choose in every boot up, these drivers are great, they are giving me the same performance I used to get with DNA if not better.

One last question, is there any difference between saphire and msi afterburner?

 

That's cool. Just fyi ready driver resolves the having to select disable driver enforcement at boot. If they're giving you good/better perf more power to you.

The only diff I noticed was the length I could OC I topped MSI out and needed to go farther. If it was rivatuner id edit Max Clock in power user but idk how in MSi and i was already familiar with Trixx

 

lol yes it was plugged in and the setting were set for high performance when plugged in and battery saver for battery.

I rebooted a couple more times and tried reinstalling the driver and I think it worked this time:

Generic VGA video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-2670QM Processor,Hewlett-Packard 17FA score: P7277 3DMarks

That is about where normal should be right? Also, why does it not detect what kind of card it is? I can understand the unknown driver because I'm using the DNA ones but it should detect the card right?

 

Yeah if those scores are in vantage theyre actually pretty good if it isnt O/C

Idk why your card doesnt show up id say its the .95 driver but when I was using that same driver (same site and everything) I didnt get that error (below)

Note: the low score was due to not knowing the driver had reset powerplay at time of test.

Edit: I re-tryed the .950 drivers (Feb Edition) on my laptop again. Even with Power Play at max perf Desktop performance was poor and 3DVantage couldnt even finish tests this time.

 

Ah well, as long as it's performing as it should I couldn't care less about if the card model is detected or not.

Thanks for all the help everyone.

 

Well does Gpuz or the device manager and ccc recognize the card? if so id say than ya youre fine.

 

Device manager shows AMD Radeon HD 6000/.../7690M XT series
dxdiag shows AMD Radeon HD

CPU-Z shows the same as device manager.

 

Sounds ship shape to me.

 

Glad to hear, thanks