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    Gaming - dv6tqe/dv7tqe

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Bag3l, Apr 7, 2011.

  1. geekboy

    geekboy Notebook Consultant

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    Hi.

    I have a small question regarding gaming on a dv6qte. This is concerning the amt of RAM on the laptop. I plan to buy the dv6qte (not in the US though) and I'm confused about whether I should get 4 GB or 8 GB RAM.

    I understand that the 6770M has 1 GB of dedicated GDDR5 memory. But I heard that sometimes if we incr game settings like shadows and textures to very high then game needs more than 1 GB of memory. So then the game will use part of the RAM I suppose. Plus the game also needs RAM to run. So keeping in mind the worst case scenario is 4 GB RAM enough for current games and future games (next 1yr)? Else I will take 8 GB directly. Thanks
     
  2. edft56

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    Even though 4 GB is enough , you must take in consideration the fact that hp uses 1x4GB sticks and not 2x2GB sticks.That means that the Ram wont be running in dual channel but in single.Meaning,your bandwidth is halfed.That's why yesterday i went and bought another 4GB stick to put in my dv6tqe.
     
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    The dv6-6096 model has 8GB RAM. Any idea on the combination?
     
  4. geekboy

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    I just want to know whether 4 GB is enough for the worst case scenario (wherein some RAM will be used for graphics). Thanks
     
  5. edft56

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    I think that it's 2x4GB but to be sure download a program called "Cpu-z" and if at the memory tab says that the memory is running in dual channel then you are ok.

    Yes 4GB is enough.Even in games the most you will be using is 3GB so if you are fine with that go for the 4GB model but i would suggest 8GB in order to futureproof it.Well,its your call.
     
  6. mostwanted115

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    if i had the laptop i wouldn't ask xP
     
  7. edft56

    edft56 Notebook Guru

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    At hp's website it says that the 8GB models use 2 dimms so it's 2x4GB.
     
  8. mostwanted115

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    +1 for me being too lazy
     
  9. edft56

    edft56 Notebook Guru

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    Well,I did some benchmarks playing Dragon Age 2.
    At 1366x768 and stock clocks.
    Everything maxed out using directX11 and AA at 2x
    Avg fps:30

    Not bad i guess.My 9800GTX+ gets 30 fps using directX9 but with AA at 4x.Screen's res is 1440x900 though.
     
  10. mostwanted115

    mostwanted115 Notebook Consultant

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    and what was the minimum FPS? did you witness a a drop that caused choppiness?
     
  11. edft56

    edft56 Notebook Guru

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    There was a significant drop at the area where the elves reside where there are a lot of things to render.At that point the fps dropped to around 18-22 and the gpu load skyrocketed to 95%.
     
  12. Cammeron Johnson

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    Anyone have info on the FPS for Metro 2033?
     
  13. YoungBoy_220

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    I played Metro 2033 with high settings and it was well playable. Sorry, I didn't check the fps at that time. But, I guess it was near about 30 (I am not sure though). I will try to check the correct fps when I get time (Actually, I don't have it installed now). I can assure you that it is very well playable (without any significant lag or stuttering that came to my notice).
     
  14. Cammeron Johnson

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    Sweet thank you :) I bought it for like 10 bucks on a steam sale and have never been able to play it (fog, dust, smoke would take it from smooth play to laggg) No worries about the FPS you pretty much gave me the info that it would have. Thank you!
     
  15. Tirus17

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    I don't know if this has been posted yet but I found a video of Crysis 2 gameplay on the DV6-6020ET.
    -Core i7 2630QM, HD 6770M (1 GB GDDR5), 4GB DDR3 RAM

    YouTube - Crysis 2 Gameplay on HD 6770M

    Not recorded in the greatest quality but better than nothing I guess.
     
  16. apav

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    Hey guys, on what settings will games like The Witcher 2, Skyrim, BFBC2 and BF3 be playable?
     
  17. Cammeron Johnson

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    The BF Game's should play well but who knows with BF3 as it hasn't been released. min requirements here Battlefield 3 Minimum Requirements I would say it should play well.
     
  18. weggman

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    Hey, first time posting here but I've been monitoring these forums off and on since I first ordered my dv6t a couple of months ago. Anyway, I've got the 6770m like a lot of you do and was wondering how the overclockers here were doing it. If it's all software based, could you please say what program/s you use and how they should be configured? Thanks a billion in advance.
     
  19. edft56

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    First of all,you should read some general overclocking guides!That's VERY important if you are not familiar with overclocking.

    I use Saphire Trixx in order to OC the 6770m,atitool to test for artifacts and gpu-z to monitor temps.

    You should know that there is no standard overclock configuration for a card.Every card is different.For instance,one card could reach a 1000MHZ clock speed but another wont even go past 800MHZ.

    AND,dont play with voltages if you dont know what you are doing.You can EASILY fry your card and you dont want that to happen.
     
  20. weggman

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    Thanks for the tips! I'll do some additional research and play around with your suggestions and let you guys know.
     
  21. sparkj

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    has anyone tried bulletstorm?
     
  22. apav

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    Thanks, anyone know about the other games I listed?

    Skyrim, The Witcher 2, BFBC2?
     
  23. edft56

    edft56 Notebook Guru

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    Considering i get 30-40 fps with my 9800GTX+ at 1440x900 everything maxed except AA which is disabled.I guess that the 6770m will get around 40-50 or maybe more.

    We will know about the Witcher 2 in some days.As for skyrim,no idea.The game will be released in 6 months so noone knows.
     
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    Nice a quad-core recommended, it's nice to see newer games taking advantage of these babies.
     
  25. SilasDG

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    I noticed that too which has me excited. All the BF has not been the same for me since BFV but it's still ok =p hope to see more of this soon in other games. :)
    Just glad I'm on this side of the fence. If I wasn't upgrading to the DV7 (or something similar) I'd be thinking "No I won't be able to run it well"

    BTW This is Cammeron J. I just got rid of my other account so I wouldn't be displaying my name.
     
  26. XEROenvy

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    I noticed that the Desktop/Monitor/TV resolutions are handled by the Intel Chip and not by the Radeon 6770m - which is why I didn't have resolution options in AMD Catalyst.
    I really get annoyed by the overscaling and underscaling with HDMI and the fact that at certain resolutions, some aspect ratios dont work and some refresh rates don't work. With a few setting tweaks I am using my TV 1440x900 and it looks fine.

    At least we can use the Intel Graphics and still have access to HDMI, before on the DV6z if you were using the weaker, power saving graphics card, the 4250, you couldn't use the HDMI until switching to the faster 5470...
     
  27. weggman

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    Any specifics on cooling solutions? I've looked into basic fan coolers, but they all move air beneath the unit while the vast majority of the heat leaving my system seems to be exiting that big side vent on the left corner of the case, not the bottom...
     
  28. nicksavop

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    Most laptops cool them selfs the same way, they take in ambient air from the bottem openings push it across internal components and blow it out the side vents. What a cooler does is prop the notebook up to allow more air to move around the the bottom and the fan or fans force more air through the bottom air intakes and out the side vents. A good cooler could drop temps 10 degrees. I just ordered a Newegg.com - COOLER MASTER Notebook Cooling Model NotePal U2 (R9-NBC-8PBK-GP). I like the idea of being able to locate the two fans anywhere I want on the cooler.
     
  29. sparkj

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    ^
    you may want to keep in mind that this comp's fan intake is on the side, and blows out from the side as well...

    hence, "propping" it up will have an effect, but a much lesser effect, compared with those laptops with the fan intake at the bottom (where it is crucial for good airflow)...

    i remember reading that it didn't really make much of a difference, if any at all, on the dv6tqe from someone with a thermaltake massive cooler.


    on a side note, i'm playing bulletstorm on the comp at medium settings. High settings are too laggy.
     
  30. taxmantoo

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    So 110412a means 11.4?
    (8.83.6.2-110412a-117442C-HP)

    How does one 'manually update' CCC?
     
  31. edft56

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    Go to amd's website and search for mobile graphics drivers.You can download CCC individually from there(2nd tab) and install it.
     
  32. nicksavop

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    looking at the manual theres 4 intakes on the bottom and 2 exausts on the left and back sides.
     
  33. SalmanAbbas

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    First of all this is my first post here and i found this thread really informative, however i do have a few querries of my own

    1) I was really surprised to see the arrow keys of dv6t(the up and down keys are half the size of left and right), so does this effect th elaptops experience, like in gaming is it comfortable of press the keys without hitting any wrong key

    2) I have 9800gtx+ in my desktop so how does it fare with 6770M

    3) Fps shown on the first post about various games, are they for the stock speeds of 6770m or the OC'ed one, and how much difference would it make?

    4) How does the battery hold up, how many hours of gameplay would you get with the 9cell or 6cell, and how much normal usage time would i get?

    5) I am really confused with different verions of the laptop, some have backlit keyboard, others dont, so any clearification would be appreciated.

    Thanx a million in advance and best regards

    PS Srry for my bad english
     
  34. edft56

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    1)Thus far,the half-sized up and down keys are very comfortable.

    2)I've got a 9800GTX+ on my desktop as well and i would say that the 6770m is 20-40% better,depends on the game.(stock speeds)

    3)Some are for stock speeds and others are for OC.The difference?Not more than 30% if the card isnt overvolted.

    4)I have the 6 cell battery and normal usage= 4-4.5 hours of battery(intel graphics)

    5)The new dv6tqe and dv7tqe do not come with backlit keyboards.
     
  35. SalmanAbbas

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    Would it be fair if i say that dv6t is the best laptop out there which maintains a balance between multimedia, gaming, high performance, and at the same time portable and reasonable battery life, or is there something better out there
     
  36. SilasDG

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    SalmanAbbas-

    1. The 9800GTX+ scores 1115 points on Passmarks GPU Benchmark while the 6750M scores 1144 since the only difference is higher clocks on the 6770M I would assume it scores somewhere around 1300-1400 points.

    2. Best laptop... Oh heeeeeecccckkkk no you didn't my dv7 will beg to differ if it ever arrives. =p Seriously though no if its anything like the DV5t-1000 (and it sounds to be) than it is a great system HP does a good job. I can see what you're saying about portability though.
     
  37. SalmanAbbas

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    well actually according to me 17'' goes out of range of portability though, all the other systems i know(AW m15x, Asus J53), are beasts but are extremely bulky, and lets not even mention the battery life on them. According to me hp dv6t manages to keep the balance of multimedia, battery life, gaming, portability.
     
  38. SilasDG

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    Aha i'm just pulling your leg man.


    On a more serious note I am actually worried about the portability of the DV7 but from what i've heard it is actually relatively slim compared to other laptops.

    For the common user the DV6 is probably the best option.
    For some "extreme" (?) users looking for an increase in storage or speed the dual bays in the dv7 help. It also has the Higher res, Larger Screen, and Sub probably help make the laptop a great "Desktop" replacement. I only say maybe because I haven't received mine. I will try to give a detailed review once I do though. So you have the question of how often you're moving with the laptop. I move now and then from school but mostly i'm docked or I would probably go dv6

    If it weren't for the dual bays I would have purchased the DV6

    In the end either way dv6 or dv7 i'm sure anyone who purchases one of these machines will be happy.
     
  39. SalmanAbbas

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    Bravo!! well concluded

    PS Do give a review of your system as i havent yet ordered mine, and your review may change my mind

    PPS If by extreme user you mean extreme gamer or maybe multimedia, then i'm one ;)
     
  40. SilasDG

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    Thank You!

    I will give a review as soon as I have received the laptop and had a short time to go over tests such as 3dMark and when i find a decent over clock level. It could take a couple of days.

    I said extreme because I wasn't sure how to say "someone who is outside of the common user space due to a need for every single bit of extra potential possible while disregarding specific factors like portability in order to obtain a higher performance." I'm still not sure if I put that exactly how i wanted it but I think you get the point.

    Anything specific you would like me to test/do or review about the laptop when I do get it?

    PS I'm one too! Nice to see ya brother!
     
  41. SalmanAbbas

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    Perhaps about battery life on both gaming mode and normal usage would be extra nice, or maybe somewhat gaming experience on the laptop.

    PS 5400rpm??? why not 7200rpm?
     
  42. panthermark

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    rep +1
    Thanks for the info...
     
  43. SilasDG

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    I will make sure to look over the battery life as it is always a concern. Gaming experience would make for an interesting point. I mean who wants to be confined at a desk to have fun? +1 for laptops.

    As for the RPM difference I started with the stock 5400RPM Drive and Upgraded to a 7200 RPM 320GB Scorpio Black WD HDD in my DV5T-1000. The improvements were not really noticeable. Also the RPM speed is not the only factor to a drives actual speed. 7200RPM drives also use more power (some more than others). The way I figure it I can get a large amount of space 750GB 5400RPM (Free Upgrade on the DV7) and then install a small SSD Between 40-120 GB Probably 60GB. for around $100

    If I do this I now have a system that has plenty of storage space for Games, MultiMedia, Downloads, and even VM's and Dual Boots. (not that I VM or Dual Boot Often) While also having plenty of Speed due to an SSD based OS Installation.



    Newegg has small drives for cheap so SSD's don't necessarily have to be the incredibly expensive price tag we've all come to know

    (30 GB OCZ) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227393&Tpk=ssd ocz (84.99)
    (60 GB OCZ) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227550&cm_re=ssd_ocz-_-20-227-550-_-Product ($104.99)
    (120 GB OCZ) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227551&cm_re=ssd_ocz-_-20-227-551-_-Product (209.99)



    PS We had a discussion on this over at the dv6t/dv7t forum http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...xxx-series-owners-lounge-464.html#post7492855 There are a lot of users with good input on the systems there. Biolib as an example.

    PPS My answer is pretty much the same there at the link so just a warning before you get bored reading through it twice aha. Lots of other good info there still though :)

    Edit: I will also run Prime95 and take note of stability and temperatures

    Edit2: Fixed Links they work now.
     
  44. SalmanAbbas

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    Just one more thing.. Is it easy/possible to upgrade components of dv6t, like for eg gfx cars, or hdd etc
     
  45. taxmantoo

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    Graphics is part of the motherboard, no upgrading there.
    Buy the 6770m to begin with, it's only $25.

    If it's at all like the dv7, upgrading memory, hard drive, and wireless network card on the dv6 should be very easy. Remove a no tool access cover, and all that stuff is easily accessible.
     
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    Rather than type them all out here they are listed on your link if you hit "+1 Benchmarks and Specifications" under each test. :)

    It will usually be 1280X1024 in most cases for 3dmark benchmark tests as that is the default setting and gives the community a good standard

    Also as taxmanto said the graphics are soldered to the board and are not upgradeable I agree you should get the 6770. anything else (Wifi, HDD, RAM) should be easily upgradeable excluding HDD2 which you will need to purchase the "Hardware kit" which includes 4 Screws and the SATA cable that fits the laptop for $33 from the HP Parts store Other than purchase price though the installation should be easy.

    On another note if I do this review and end up ordering an SSD and the Hardware kit should I do my review with the OS on the SSD or on the HDD as it could effect performance in every day tasks. Anyone care?
     
  48. SalmanAbbas

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    1)Comparison of both the SSD and HDD would be great :D

    2)So if the resolution is 1280X1024 we should be expecting the same performance more or less. Am i right?

    3) Actually i couldn't think of anything below 6770 :cool: , i was just wondering about something more powerful ;)

    4) how about this : HP Pavilion dv6-6090ee Entertainment Notebook PC (LM596EA) specifications - HP Home and Home Office products
     
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    Can someone please test Battlefield: Bad Company 2?

    Thanks in advance!
     
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    I just tried the PS3 controller with all Crysis games, Portal 2, as long as you make sure to have Motionjoy set to Xbox 360 Emulator, they pick it up and automatically use it. I imagine all PC games do now (those in which it makes sense to be able to use one). Even though they don't have options for it, as soon as I use the controller even the buttons in the game switch from keyboard letters to xbox controller buttons.
    GREAT! Wireless PC gaming.
     
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