Gaming - dv6tqe/dv7tqe

XEROenvy, how did u get the dv6tqe for $673??

And does anyone know what fps the dv6qe runs WoW at in raids? If you guys have a video of it or could do a test, i would really appreciate it.

 

1.) I will test whichever setup I have at time of delivery. So if i've ordered an SSD and if it's been delivered by the time the laptop is it will be the first tested which is likely.

Note: I will probably wait for this drive just released by Corsair. It's faster than the OCZ's I posted while only costing $139 for 60GB ($40 More). Read Speed of 550MB/s and Write Speed of 520MB/s http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/corsair-force-series-3-ssds-sandforce-speed-for-modest-money/


2.) You should expect the same performance when running at the same resolution yes.

3.) The 6570 is available for both the DV6 and DV7 I believe although really for the twenty-five bucks who would keep it? Aren't we all wondering about something more powerful ? I don't have my laptop and I'm already sitting here thinking "How could I make it faster and more powerful"

4.) The Set-up is decent. I would change the processor for sure though. Listed are benchmarks for the available CPU's And One Extra
Intel Core i7-2630QM @ 2.00GHz 6323
Intel Core i7-2720QM @ 2.20GHz 7411 (Plus 1088 Points or 17.2% Increase in performance vs i7-2630QM)
Intel Core i7-2820QM @ 2.30GHz 7544 (Plus 133 Points or 1.8% Increase in performance vs i7-2720QM)
Intel Core i7-2820QM @ 2.30GHz 7544 (Plus 1221 Points or 19.3% Increase in performance vs i7-2630QM)
Not Currently Applicable - Maybe Possible After Market Upgrade - Possible BIOS And Board Restrictions
Intel Core i7-2920XM @ 2.50GHz 8082 (Plus 1759 Points or 28.1% Increase in performance vs i7-2630QM)
Intel Core i7-2920XM @ 2.50GHz 8082 (Plus 671 Points or 9.05% Increase in performance vs i7-2720QM)
Intel Core i7-2920XM @ 2.50GHz 8082 (Plus 538 Points or 7.14% Increase in performance vs i7-2820QM)


The estimates given are percentages of the card directly below. i.e. 1.8 percent of the 2720QM's score is 133 or 19.3 percent of the 2630QM's score is 1221.

Those are rough estimates with Google Math =P

I would downgrade a feature you can later upgrade like RAM, HDD, or CD/DVD/Blu-Ray and upgrade the processor. This way later down the road you can upgrade the laptop and have a lot more future-proofing. Even more so since many games, applications, and multimedia programs are now starting to take advantage of Quad Core processors.

I like the GPU of course and the large amounts of RAM and HDD space.


Sources for statistics: CPU Benchmark AKA PassMark

i7-2630QM 2.00Ghz http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-2630QM+@+2.00GHz
i7-2720QM 2.20Ghz http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-2720QM+@+2.20GHz
i7-2820QM 2.30Ghz http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-2820QM+@+2.30GHz
i7-2920XM 2.50Ghz http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-2920XM+@+2.50GHz

 

33% off coupon + compensation for two shipping delays (~250) = $650 off a $1300 laptop.

 

You cannot upgrade to i7-2920xm because it has a tdp of 55w whereas the other ones have 45w.Meaning that it generates more heat than the laptop can handle.It cant even cool the the 2630 adequately when both cpu and gpu load are at 100%

 

if i could have rep +1 you a hundred times, i already would have done that. Thank you very much for all the info.

 

Ok i bumped up the 6770m's voltage to 1.055 and got a stable OC at 925/1050.
Max temps ~78
A little bit and i could have reached 1GHZ on a mobile gpu!ARGH!

 

I wouldn't say they can't handle the 2630QM but I would agree that it shouldn't get any hotter. With the info you've provided I agree the TDP is way to high and the CPU would not work properly if at all. To top that off the Manufacture will most likely have it blocked in the BIOS for that reason. Thanks for the info!

Aha no worries man I enjoy looking that kind of stuff up sooo yeah aha. I appreciate you saying so though! BTW I meant to add this to that post but somehow spaced it. It's the link to the Engadget Page for the Corsair SSD. http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/corsair-force-series-3-ssds-sandforce-speed-for-modest-money/ If you have any other questions shoot them out there and I'll tell you if I know something

I asked this in the main thread as well but unfortunately never got a response. How did you overvolt it? I know it's overclocked using MSI Afterburner. Are the overvolting options in that program as well? Any chance you could run a benchmark comparison between your current clock rates and stock? It would be appreciated .

Edit: Never mind I googled it and was able to find that Sapphire TriXX that info was provided by XEROenvy without even knowing it. He created a thread just for overclocking this card here http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-pavilion-notebooks/576812-overlclocking-6770m.html unfortunately it doesn't look like it ever really took off as its still only four posts. This could be a good place for people to start posting scores and such when they bench and discussing pro's con's and overall characteristics of the card. Figured people may like to know

I must have typed it in wrong yesterday or something because I wasn't able to find the info via google. it was one of those "Let me google that for you" moments aha sorry .

 

I'll see how far i can get it and will post benches.

And when the cpu and gpu loads are at 100% the cpu temps reach 95 C and i would call that inadequate cooling.Maybe it's just my notebook and it needs repasting which i am extremely bored to do.

EDIT:I so hate AMD drivers.When they crash they dont recover!Unbelievable.

On another note i am getting 8127 gpu score on vantage having 925/1080

 

Was that temperature reading taken during stock use or overclock/overvolt use?
You may look into repasting if it's stock most the reviews I've read are more avg around 80.
Are you using the 9cell or 6the cell. (Wondering if your back is raised)
Is your laptop the DV7 or the DV6? (cooling setups could possibly be different.)
How long had the laptop been on?
Was it in your lap or on a desk or cooler?
What cooling setting did you have Cool Sense set to?
What caused the CPU/GPU to reach full load. (Example: Games, Benchmarks, Intensive tasks, Prime95 etc.)
What were your stock scores before oc/ov?
Sorry I know it's a lot of questions I don't mean to be rude just like to check the variables.
Also sorry for any typos im on my phone






Note: With my DV5t-1000 I have had for around three years. Once a year I take it apart and clean the fan/heat sink assembly (without removing the heatsink) As I noticed the finely spaced fins would create pieces (yes pieces) of dust that couldn't get out.

About two weeks ago I cleaned and repasted my heatsink. Before doing so running Prime95 for 10 Minutes resulted in a 99*C reading (steady) When placed on my bed or a pair of jeans to replicate normal use Prime 95 raised so fast that the system hit 115*C before it could shutdown. (auto shutdown is 110* for safety)

After Repasting with Arctic Silver 5 Prime95 does NOT raise the CPU temp above 88*C EVER even when placed on my bed. the gpu never reaches above 75 (usually staying in the 60's sometimes upper 50's)

Point being I doubt you need to clean your heatsink but Reapplying new thermal paste as you suggested can't hurt i'd do it (and probably will as i've got a nearly full tube of AS5 sitting here.) Remember that you're safe temperature could and probably will become an unsafe temperature down the road if you Over Volt due to dust and such so just remember to keep an eye on it . Also Hp Tends to be a bit excessive i've noticed. They also like thermal pads.\

 

1)Stock clocks.I never oc a mobile cpu
2)6 cell on the dv6
3)Dont remember but it doesnt matter.The cpu is always at 44 whenever i am not doing anything heavy
4)It was on desk,cooler unfortunately doesn't drop the temps
5)I reinstalled windows so i dont have coolsense but the fan was at max.Does anyone know where to download coolsense?I cant seem to find it anywhere.
6)I used prime95 and atitool.


Stock gpu score was ~6300 if my memory serves me right.

 

HP Coolsense is a part of the HP Assistant Software

I believe this is the link for HP Assistant Win7 64 Bit
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...dlc=en&cc=us&product=5103993&sw_lang=&os=4063

Edit: Btw 6300--->8127 is a 29% increase.. AWESOME! Keep us updated!

 

Anyone else no longer able to open msi afterburner 2.2.0 beta, it says something like msi afterburner has expired or is corrupted. I read somewhere that the betas expire and you have to update to newer version. After checking I see that beta 3 has been released, has anyone updated and is the process still the same to unlock overclocking?

 

Is there any single game that not run fluent on this laptop?

 

Of course there is....
You can't play every game at full settings.
Take Shift 2, Crysis 2 for example...

 

I am playing Assassin's Creed Brotherhood extremely fluently with almost max settings. Best game EVER, by the way.

Settings are not exactly max though, for example, I don't max out the reflection and shadow details because they are barely observable.

 

Anyone try witcher 2, I want to buy it just not sure how well it will run.

 

Just got my shipping notification !

EDIT: And of course with my luck HP just now releases a version with a 2GB 6770M and a 1080P Screen

Worst luck EVER. i'd reorder but appearently they're not accepting coupons on this version and it has no rebates so its stock. 1080P Display is a $150 upgrade and the 2GB card is an extra $50 over the 1GB (so a total of $75 upgrade.)

Since it currently has no coupons or rebates it's $1865.80 for my configuration but with the 2GB card and 1080P Screen... Cannot afford that.. Plus I think thats way to much.

All I know is i'm going to be looking for that 1080P Part number very soon.

Screenshot below.

 

Damn could make use of 1 more Gig.

On another note,i am downloading The Witcher 2 so i'll post some benches when it will finish downloading.

 

If you tone down the settings, every game will run fluent. It can at least play every game fluently. I think the questioner needs to be clearer in what he was asking. And I will argue that it can play every game with settings that make it look decent. I've played all the Crysis games on it and it works fine. I have a DV6 so my native res is lower than the DV7 but even on that everything looks good. And Crysis series is exceptional in graphics requirements.

 

NO! (continues screaming!) What games would benefit from a 2GB instead of 1GB Video Memory? Games like GTA? Skyim? What about Crysis?

Although the only thing I am worried they will release is a backlit keyboard, as I would not have paid $150 for 1080p and maybe not $50 for the 2GB version of the 6770m unless it is a noticeable difference in performance. IS IT?

 

My desktop i built in 2005 had 256MB of video memory. They release a video card with 512MB memory about two months later. At the time, there was a negligible difference in performance. That's probably true today as well.

This article is a bit dated, but it basically tells you that unless you're stressing the card incredibly, you're really not going to see a difference in performance.

Now for someone trying to "future-proof" their laptop, my guess is that 2GB is better than 1GB. Especially if its only for $35 more (with 30% off coupon) than the 1GB 6770M.

Back to my anecdote in the beginning, when that new card came out with 512MB it was about 75% more. I think I paid $280 or so and the 512MB version was ~$550. In that case, not really worth it.

It might be nominally worth it if you also got the 1080p screen...as the higher resolution will demand more from the card...although I doubt it.

 

How did you get a DV6tqe for $673??!?! The cheapest I can get it for right now is 895 with tax.

 

I knew that it would make little difference in many games but there might be some in the future like you said. At GDDR5 speeds I don't think it's a noticeable difference right now.

 

Hi!

I'm new to the forums so bear with me pls..

I checked the first page of this thread and saw that people were getting 55-60 fps in World of Warcraft.

I raid 25s in WoW: cata and I was wondering if its possible to raid with 60 fps on high-ultra settings with the following:

i7 2720QM
6gb ram (does the dv6t come with ddr3 1333mhz ram?)
2gb ati hd 6770M
1366x768 screen

Any answers would be greatly appreciated!

 

great looking forward to your results

 

I have a question for you guys:
When I play games they occasionally crash randomly. I've noticed this with Portal 2 and even older (less system intense) games. I had upgraded the driver for the 6770M (this is when I first noticed problems) and then downgraded it back to the one that came with the system, but it still crashes. I downgraded by removing everything to do with the driver and then reinstalling the old version. I know it is not a heat problem and my guess is that it is something to do with the driver, but I don't know how to fix it. Any suggestions?

 

Whenever it crashes,if this message appears "the display driver has crashed and has recovered",then it's the drivers.If not than maybe a game patch or something could fix your issue.

 

Unfortunately there are no error messages it just crashes to the desktop. I'm hoping it is just the games, but it has happened with a few games.

 

AMD drivers tend to break older games quicker than Nvidia's as they release new drivers.

Try a version that you last known that worked.

 

Make sure you are actually using the 6770m and not the intel one.Right-click on the desktop and select "switchable graphics" and then select the "high performance gpu" if you are using the power saving one.

 

Everybody here says that the 2 GB 6770M will not have much of an advantage over the 1 GB 6770M while gaming at 1080p (leave alone at 720p).

But isn't it better to have 2 GB of GDDR5 video memory? I think some games really need more than 1 GB of memory for eg GTA 4 and its small expansion packs. If I'm not mistaken I have seen in benchmark videos that under High settings for GTA 4 with shadows and all other settings set to high, the video memory usage goes above 1024 MB of video memory. So isn't it better to have 2 GB of video memory? If you have 1 GB I guess it pickups the extra from the RAM. Wouldn't that have an effect on the game's performance? And in the future maybe more and more games will utilise more than 1 GB of video memory. 2 GB is more of future proofing I guess.
What say?

 

Not much of a effect really. I played GTA IV on my pc on 9800gtx+, which had 512mb ram, and i played at 1440x 900. All i had to do was to set the textures on med and all the settings on high (0 shadow density is it doesnt have any visible effect)(view distance wasnt very much as it caused the graphics to look bad), and the game ran rather smoothly. Remember that was 512mb. 1gb would cover that up unless you are planning to run at really high resolutions.

 

Here's an article sort of comparing between 2GB GDDR5 and 1GB GDDR5 in crossfire (multiple-GPU) setups:
Radeon HD 5870 2GB vs 1GB Trifire review

Their conclusion is that some games see absolutely no difference with 2GB, while some games do see some benefit, but only if there are multiple GPUs, and some games see benefit among all configs.

 

Has anyone tried Flight Sim? The Envy 17's get throttled by it.

Would 2GB on a 6770 work better than 1GB on the 6850?

Better yet...has anyone run into any issues with their DV6/7's throttling?

 

eeeh, I'm not really sure.

The future-proofing is anyone's guess. I doubt that as your card gets older the memory will be your biggest sticking point...I'm going to guess its speed of the memory and of the core (GPU) that's going to hold you up (and lack of support for new shaders and new DX's, for example)

They did see some impressive results for the single cards (the only one I really looked at) for some games and some benchmarks but only at the high end of the testing scheme. I mean 2560x1600 is pretty huge and with 8xAA...I doubt you'll be able to equip a laptop to pump out that kind of graphics power.

Personal opinion here: I doubt 2GB of memory will really matter more than 1-5 fps for the foreseeable future...and no more than 8-10 fps ever...

With the 30% off coupon the upgrade is only $35 more...(probably more with tax, but whatever) to me that was too tempting not to click "upgrade"! I have no delusions that it was money well spent, only that it makes me feel better.

 

I think at the level of the 6770, the marginal increase in performance will not be significant, as if you were attempting to play games on fullhd resolution, you'd be stretching the 6770 thin already.

Hence the 2GB is unlikely to help you make the cut for the next increase in quality settings (ie. from medium to high), since you'd probably need a boost in clock speeds and memory speeds for that to happen. 1-5 fps is not likely enough to make a higher setting playable.

 

But what about Flight Sim? That seems to really put the Envy (1GB 6850) through a serious work-out.

Would 2GB on a 6770 help?

 

Think about it this way, you are trying to move a lot of furnitures into your garage, sorting them there, then sending them out to wherever (backyard, inside of the house, garbage, etc...) Ideally you want to get this done as fast as possible - so how do you do that?

Size of RAM is like the size of your garage, bandwidth of the memory is the size of your garage door, core number is the number of people you have helping out, and core speed is how fast each person works.

Core speed - obviously if each person is stronger and work faster (e.g. 850mhz vs 650mhz), the overall process is going to go faster.

Core number - if you have more people helping, it's obviously going to speed things up. That is, until you have too many people and some are just idling around doing nothing.

Memory bandwidth (aka, GDDR5 vs GDDR3) - if your garage door is a rabbit hole, and you are trying to move a gigantic couch inside, you'll have to take the couch apart, move it in part by part, assemble them inside of your garage, look at it, decide where it should go, disassemble it again, move it outside again, then reassemble, then move it to its destination. If you have enough room however, you can skip all the disassembly/assembly process - move it in, decide where it belongs, move it out. However, it's just a question of if the door is wide enough to fit the biggest furniture you have - any bigger than that you wouldn't see any improvements.

Memory size - How much garage space do you really need if it's just a sorting station (memory is NOT STORAGE)? Unless you have so many people working around with so many furnitures (aka, powerful cards/SLI setup) that they are actually bumping into each other in the small garage, the size of the garage DOES NOT MATTER AT ALL (as long as it can fit your biggest furniture).

For a card like 6770m playing on anything less than 1920x1080 (3 college students sorting a van full of stuff), the number/speed of people you have is by far the biggest constraint (i.e. who cares if you have a football stadium or a normal garage? As long as it's bigger than a bathroom you are fine). For something like dual 6870 XF or dual 580 SLI playing in 2650x1600+ (20 body builders moving a full sized commercial truck full of stuff), a bigger garage is much more important in order to avoid people bumping into each other.

Even if you are trying to future proof against future games, think about it this way - what's likely to be a bigger problem? New furnitures not fitting in the garage, or not fitting through the garage DOOR?

That being said, if I do decide to return the current dv6 for a 1080p one (as opposed to installing the panel myself), I'll probably opt for the 2gb - just to make myself feel good, rather than expecting an increase in performance - like a trophy rather than a tool.

 

Understood...
Thanks for the analogy.

If I get a DV6/7, I'll probably jump up to 2GB anyway since it really can't hurt (on the 1080p screen) but with the understanding that I may not see much (if any) real improvement.

 

I'm still not convinced that the benefit will be negligible. In the test posted with 5870 1gb and 2gb flavors, Metro 2033, the most GPU intensive and newest game tested more than doubled in frame rate from 8 to 19FPS with settings maxed on a single card setup! No, it won't be that significant for most games, but as more GPU intensive games are put out, and the 6770m starts to become long in tooth, the extra gb may end up extending its usable life. That was reason enough for me to upgrade at very little cost difference!

 

The dv7 service manual shows a thermal pad on the GPU but not on the CPU. Since the CPU seems to be the warmer of the two, it doesn't seem to be worth tearing it down to put a copper plate in place of the thermal pad.

And if 2GB is plenty in those tests with 2560x1600 (over 4 million pixels), then 1GB should be plenty with 1920x1080 (over 2 million pixels).

 

you do realize that the 5870 is a desktop card running in 2650x1600 right? the card itself is about 4 times as fast as the 6770m, running max in a resolution that contains about twice as many pixels as 1920x1080.

 

I think there's something wrong with my new dv6tqe... I literally can't run ANY games with the integrated graphics (even f-ing QUAKE) and my computer has crashed with a blue screen twice in the 5 hours I've used it... The drivers are up to date and everything...

 

You ran Windows Update with the 6770m turned on?

 

Yes, but it never worked right even right out of the box. Is there some system 100% restore I can do or anything? Please?

 

You can make a recovery disk and reformat from it. This should restore everything to factory conditions.

 

This might already have been answered, but since I found nothing, here goes:

Is there any way to disable the windows key from opening the start menu? Playing games where I like to assign that button to some function leaves much to be desired.

Also, I can't figure out if it's a key combo or just some random key pressing, but many times in-game the small HP system-information window pops up, which is very VERY irritating. Anyone know how to fix that?

 

Thanks for all the opinions regarding the 1 GB vs 2 GB 6770M. I will be playing on 1366 x 768. Was just worried because I wanted to play the GTA series very badly and I thought it needed the extra VRAM!

 

GTA Maxed out (especially on a 1366 x 786 screen) does not need the extra VRAM. I removed the restriction of RAM in GTA and used nearly 1.5 GB settings (before it would limit to 1GB from card) and noticed very little performance drop.

AND THAT 1.5 is EVERYTHING maxed out. Meaning View distance 100, Detail 100, traffic 100, etc. Which is not really necessary and makes very little difference to me, and I am very picky about graphics and displays...

BUT IF YOU CAN AFFORD THE $50 then certainly, certainly do it. It's not too much as long as it's still 2GB GDDR5.

 

GTA 4 rite? Have u tried the DLC like 'Ballad of Tony'? Whats the meaning of 'removed restriction of RAM'? Sorry I haven't got the game as yet. So if you used 1.5 GB means 1 GB from card and 512 MB from the shared memory (RAM)? Or did it force u to adjust settings to keep VRAM usage max upto 1 GB?