HP 8510p available!

Thanks crenneke. That worked perfectly.

One last small issue. When i did a clean install of Vista, everything is working fine and well but one thing. Quick Launch buttons don't show up on the screen when you use them. For example, when using the volume slider it works fine but i just dont see that display that comes up on the screen when using it. Same with when i adjust the screen brightness, it functions fine but i just cant see the it on the screen.

I installed the quick launch buttons driver off the included DVD, as well as tried the ones on the website. Any ideas?

 

8510p with 1GB is on its way this week. I want to add a 2GB stick for a total of 3GB. Any reason to choose one of the below (from Hot Ram Deals) other than by price? Any other recommendations? I would like to order asap. Thanks guys.

1)
Price: $ 94.99(free shipping) FRY’s
Brand: Corsair
Model: VS2GSDS667D2
Type: 200-Pin DDR2 SO-DIMM
Capacity: 2GB
Speed: DDR2 667 (PC2 5300)
Cas Latency: 5
Warranty: Lifetime
2)
Price: $ 96.99(+ shipping) (after $15 rebate - Ends on 9/17) NEWEGG
Brand: OCZ
Model: OCZ2MV6672G
Type: 200-Pin DDR2 SO-DIMM
Capacity: 2GB
Speed: DDR2 667 (PC2 5300)
Cas Latency: 5
Warranty: Lifetime
3)
Price: $ 98.99(+ shipping) NEWEGG
Brand: Transcend
Model: TS256MSQ64V6U
Type: 200-Pin DDR2 SO-DIMM
Capacity: 2GB
Speed: DDR2 667 (PC2 5300/5400) Is the 5300/5400 better then the straight 5300 of the first two?
Cas Latency: 5
Warranty: Lifetime

 

Gonna order mine on friday

I would go for Corsair or OCZ cause i've never heard of Transcend. OCZ do some really nice overclocking ram, so high quality seems to be a standard with this brand.

 

But will You be overclocking Your CPU?? is it worth it?? Get something with lifetime warranty, like Kingston and You wont notice any difference anyway.

 

Of course it's not worth it to overclock the CPU/Ram in a notebook, but the thing is that good overclocking ram equals good quality ram! And if you haven't notice: All these ram have lifetime warranty...

 

I know they do. But I also know that they are much more expensive. Ive also been hesitating to buy some high quality RAMs but Ive been convinced that ist not worth for the money You are paying, at least not for notebooks. PCs are different cup of tea.
What performance difference would have give U OCZ compared to Kingston Value rams??

Are there any test around?? I would be interested in comparision between them.

 

Dunno if people are still interested in this.

I got the 8510p (GB955EA) model with drivers off the HP website and Win XP Pro.

2.2GHz Intel Core Duo 2 T7500
2GB ram
1280 by 800 resolution
with a 3d mark 06 score of 3424.

 

To obtain comparable results do it in 1280x1024.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=2460732

 

I got the silly 15.4" WXGA (1280 x 800 resolution) model, so can only do it at that resolution.

 

So how did Aceron do his test in that resolution. It doesnt matter if You have widescreen as the monitor is still capable of doing it in that resolution. At least it should be. What is the rest of Your config??

 

I personally bought the OCZ 2gb stick. Just installed it, my WEI went from 4.5 to 4.7 in the memory category. Other than that I havent done any other testing.

 

Did You just have 1GB before that??

 

No, a wide screen 1280x800 panel does not physically have enough vertical pixels to do a test in 1280x1024. However a widescreen 1680x1050 panel can perform the test in 1280x1024.

 

I didnt know they are selling this HP with those types of panels. My mistake. Sorry.

 

Ya i only had the stock 1gb stick that came with it. I know not much should be read into the WEI scores but tripling the RAM only raises it by 0.2?

 

Don't even pay attention to the WEI. It is not a benchmark program. If you want to know how the RAM would affect the overall performance I'd run the PCmark05 program. I think that's the right one.

 

bharris, run them if You can. Im really interested, as Im thinking whether to get 2GB or just 1GB since 2 & 1 shouldnt be working in dual channel, should they?? If You could to the test in PCmark with 1GB, 2GB and 3GB we would be greatful!!

 

has anyone overclocked the ati right now ?

as i've already posted in another thread, the guy with his toshiba a200xx with a hd2600 256mb has overclocked his core to 700mhz and his memory to 570mhz (seems to be he has only gddr2) and got 4100 3dmarks with his 1,8ghz core 2 duo cpu. ! and according to him the temperature of the gpu was only ~53 degrees after 2 hours playing.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=169694&highlight=hd+2600

 

Well I know I used ATI Tool (or was it ATI Tray Tool?)'s auto-overclocking feature to determine the maximum clock speeds for my GPU. I left it for 5 hours and it was still trying to find the max when I returned.

I didn't have time to wait so I canceled it. Dumbest part is that the program didn't even tell me how far it got after all that time. I've been too pissed off to try O/Cing since

 

The Find Max Core feature won't work well unless you underclock the mem, and the Find Max Mem feature won't work well unless you underclock the core. In general, you want to sit and watch it, and as soon as it starts downclocking you know you've hit your upper limit for either the core or the mem (whichever your testing).

 

Destiny:

I dont have time to run the benchmarks this week, but possibly later. Dual channel wont matter very much, its really only 5-10% performance improvement. Having the extra gig rather than dual channel GREATLY outweighs the advantages of dual channel.

 

Isn't the best way to overclock anyway...do a 10% increase and than go in ~10mhz steps (at the beginning you can do higher steps...) running 3dmark between. If you've found your limit, run about 2h 3dmark to be sure that it's absolutely stable

 

i've another question.


whats the max external resolution of the 8510p with the 1280x800 screen ?

i want to connect my lcd tv through the hdmi port to the laptop, which means i want to get a external resolution of 1280x720 or 1366x768 for watching movies and playing some games

 

Haven't been keeping up, but just to make sure.. you guys are talking about the WXGA option, correct (1280x800)?. The WSXGA+'s normal resolution is 1680 x 1050, isn't it?.

Anyways -- quick question -- does HP SMB charge tax?.

I've heard HP only charges tax in certain states but wasn't sure if that was just Home/Home Office.

 

Below is some of the config info cut and paste from a DxDiag report. I have added in stuff not included like HDD detail and Memory slot info. I guess it would be possible to do the test at the higher resolution wth an external monitor, however I do not have one. Oh and I only have the demo version of 3dmark06. Another thing, is according to my supplier and HP this model is Vista only. I managed to organise a copy of XP for it from HP after throwing my toys out the cot about my DOA NC8430 and having to wait 4 weeks for a replacement.

Time of this report: 9/17/2007, 14:25:10
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp.051011-1528)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
System Model: HP Compaq 8510p
BIOS: KBC Version 71.32
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7500 @ 2.20GHz (2 CPUs)
Memory: 2016MB RAM
Memory Slot 1/2: 1.00 GB DDR2 667.0 MHz Samsung SODIMM
Memory Slot 2/2: 1.00 GB DDR2 667.0 MHz Kingston SODIMM
Hard Drive: 160GB Fijitsu 5400rpm. 140GB after all the recovery partitions and other rubish.

Card name: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9581)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Display Memory: 256.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 800 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Default Monitor
Monitor Max Res:
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6698 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 7/13/2007 04:52:40, 268288 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes

Description: SoundMAX HD Audio
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID:
Manufacturer ID: 65535
Product ID: 65535
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ADIHdAud.sys
Driver Version: 5.10.0001.5180 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 3/1/2007 13:45:58, 289792 bytes

 

I just ran the test again with only the 1GB ram that it came with and got a score of 3419.

Does that seem right? 3419 with 1GB ram, 3424 with 2GB ram. Same processes etc running on both tests.

 

Which test, 3dmark06? If that's what you're talking about, then it makes sense. If your card has at least 256mb of dedicated VRAM, then 3dmark06 isn't really system RAM intensive very much at all.

 

Now I dont know what to do really. Get just 1GB of extra RAM and than sell them both after a year or two and get two 2GB chips when 64bit apps will be more available??? Or get 2GB instead 1GB and have 3GB w/o Dual Channel?? What do You think??

 

For most uses, 2GB is sufficient for now. However, since it's quite likely that you're going to upgrade anyhow, I see no reason not to go ahead and get the 2GB SODIMM now.

 

I found this today:
I hope it will be handy for everybody

Some benchmarks of different notebook memory modules:
http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Print.aspx?ArticleId=17456
If mods believe this should be posted as a separate thread by all means do it.


How soon can we expect the 64bit appz to be widly available?? So I could take advantage of full 4GB of RAM?? I also have a A-Data PD7 4GB flash drive with data rates of 28/19 MB/s [read/write] or even faster (dont remember now) that supports ReadyBoost for Vista. Would it give it an extra bonus??

 

Interesting that you got a Fujitsu HDD Enigma. Seems like HP is really going wild on putting different HDDs into their 8510p line

 

Taking advantage of 4GB of RAM has nothing to do with whether you're using 64-bit apps or not. What uses do you have that would require 4GB of RAM?

And no, ReadyBoost is nothing like adding extra RAM to the system, it acts more like a secondary hard drive cache (kind of like on a hybrid drive).

 

3D rendering & CAD/CAM [Rhino, Pro Engineer, Solid Works, 3D Studio Max etc] and Photoshop, I generally perform quite a lot of multitasking jobs. Would come handy if I was rendering at the same time and still could do my presentation/photoshop without loosing much of the rendering performance.

Ive read a bit about this whole new thing in Vista [prefetching, caching or something like that - Ive posted a thread in Windows section] and know about ReadyBoost now. Seems like a marketing catch who will use 512MB of RAM with Vista nowadays??

 

According to my pricing, the T7300 2 GHz machine with 1 GB RAM costs $1400 and the T7500 2.2 GHz with 2 GB RAM costs $2000?? Am I correct in assuming that the 0.2 GHz improvement is not worth $600? Am I missing something?

Also, does this laptop come with any kind of a docking option? Thanks for all help-I'm close to pulling the trigger on this one!

 

Destiny - RE your query on RAM.

I just ordered a 8510p with just 1GB. My reasoning was that a 2nd stick of 1GB from HP would add $130 and I can order a 2GB stick for less then $100. In time should I want upgrade to 4GB for 64bit Vista by purchasing a 2nd 2GB stick, it will almost certainly cost less then current prices.

 

The price premium is not worth it, no. The processor difference will be negligable in most tasks, and you can upgrade the RAM yourself for less than that.

 

Thanks and last questions: How do you dock this laptop to a 20" monitor? Is there a docking station to save time and connector wear? Is anyone besides me doing this?

Do I take it that nobody here has any concerns about the ATI 2600 card being able to support all current and future games for the next couple of years? Thanks for your comments!

 

I'll try this again...anyone else have this problem??:

When i did a clean install of Vista, everything is working fine and well but one thing. Quick Launch buttons don't show up on the screen when you use them. For example, when using the volume slider it works fine but i just dont see that display that comes up on the screen when using it. Same with when i adjust the screen brightness, it functions fine but i just cant see the it on the screen.

I installed the quick launch buttons driver off the included DVD, as well as tried the ones on the website. Any ideas?

 

yes i was shocked when i saw this they want near 600$ for the t7500??? thats the reason i decided for now against the 8510p i really want at least the 7500 even though i know its not a huge difference its what i had in the dell it would be replacing... im not spending 600$ more for the t7500 no way

 

You know with the ASUS V1S, the price diff between the 7500 and the 7700 is just 40 bucks.

 

yep and with one of the msi ones i was looking at it was like 10$ or something to go from the 7300 to the 7500 ...

 

Yeah. I know. Ive checked the prices for me and currently a 2GB Corsair stick is 3 times more expensive than the equivalent 1GB from them. Shame but I will carry on with 2GB of RAM for time being. Maybe looking forward to upgrade after a year or so.

 

Any thoughts about docking to an external monitor (how to do it) and the graphics card? It seems the graphics card is having some problems with common programs. Can we assume these problems will go away soon?

Sorry but these are my final questions before making a purchase decision. Thanks!

Update: I found a docking station on the hp web site: http://h30094.www3.hp.com/product.asp?sku=2946666&extended=1 which supposedly works for all HP's business laptops.

 

Anyone can confirm that the HP 8510p fits the Shinza ZeroShock 15.4" Zeroshock III? Or should I go with a 17" one?

 

I just bought a HP 8510p yesterday and I can't say I'm entirely impressed. I'm a stickler for screen quality, and guess what? Expecting the WSXGA screen to be brighter/sharper than the one on my previous 14.1" 6515b (which was utterly superb... the only good thing about the machine IMHO), not only was I dissapointed to notice the screen to be noticeably dimmer, whites left a lot to be desired, being slightly pinkish under all light conditions. What's more, left and right bottom corners are improperly lit (?). Another thing I noticed, the machine tends to produce a loud rattling/clicking sound whenever the system boots. Upon further inspection, the sound comes from the DVD-RW drive area (might actually be the fans?).

Are these "problems" normal?

 

u no i think the hard disk could of bein heavily knocked upon delivery. i have had to replace mine on other laptops when that happened when i booted up. and that was the only time i heard the clicking so it maybe that

 

Read this review, he noted the very same issues, they must be quirks that model has.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=169816

 

hi

i have a question: is there a possibilty to get a intel turbo memory card (robson) inside a 8150p? does anybody have experiences with this?


greetz, noi$ia

 

Just ordred mine today after i saw the 8510p in personal! There were also a T61p and a MacBook Pro at the notebook show. I compared the Screen with the one from the T61p and there weren't any big differences..than i took a look at the MacBook Pro...the screen of the 8510p/T61p was just ridiculous beside the one from the MacBook And so with the design: While the T61p's design is just ****, the 8510p isn't that bad, but nothing to compare with the wonderful MacBook Pro
But: I don't want to use MacOS since i'll also do some gaming plus i defently won't pay 1000 Dollars more for a better screen/design. The T61p was also 400 dollars more expensive with the same average screen and a **** design, so it wasn't an option either.
The buildquality and the keyboard of the 8510p pleased me and also the price

Ordred for 1500$ in total:
2,2 GHz
2GB Ram
120GB HDD
Vista Buisiness
3 years global warranty
3 years HP Care Pack Next Business Day Hardware Support

Should hold it in my hands in about 2 weeks

 

$1500 in Switzerland is a great deal. Is that including VAT?