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    *HP ENVY 14 (1XXX series) Owners Lounge, Part 1*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by 2.0, Jun 21, 2010.

  1. JJB

    JJB Notebook Virtuoso

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    That's my whole point, no offense but I don't know you or your friend, notepad does not show what it changes and I have no clue if it will change things that have been set the way I want them and whether or not the 'defualt' will go back to the way I had it (which I doubt) or to the win 7 default settings which I have already modified. Not worth the potential risk or hassle....
     
  2. M.to.walker

    M.to.walker Notebook Consultant

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    *fist slam through table*

    CPU WHINE! /rage

    I've dimmed it but I can still hear such a thing...
     
  3. JJB

    JJB Notebook Virtuoso

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    The system configuration, advanced options is not 'esocteric' or 'random' or 'confusing'. It is meant for debugging and nothing more. It should not be used for anything else and all options should be grey out for normal startup and performance, and none of the boot with 1,2,3,4 core options will in any way reduce power usage on the CPU .
     
  4. fubuki

    fubuki Newbie

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    Lesson learned. I won't be messing with that stuff anymore.
     
  5. S.M.

    S.M. Notebook Consultant

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    I feel your pain because I have the same problem on my envy 520m.
     
  6. ExodusC

    ExodusC Notebook Evangelist

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    I can't tell if everyone on NBR is overreacting about Envy 14 CPU whine, or if it's really that loud.

    I'm using a Vostro 3400 (it has a Core i3) until my Envy 14 gets here, and honestly, I can only hear CPU whine if the fan is completely off and I stick my ear to the bottom of the laptop and listen hard.

    If it's anything like that, everyone here needs to get over it...

    Who knows, maybe it will be loud, though. We'll see when my Envy 14 gets here.
     
  7. M.to.walker

    M.to.walker Notebook Consultant

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    It fluctuates honestly, and it varies laptop to laptop.

    Whine Info
     
  8. tornbacchus

    tornbacchus GO leafs.. Wait, Nevermid

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    Has anyone tried the Tightening of the screws over the cpu? The person that did that said it fixed theirs, has anyone else had it work?
     
  9. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    his came back after a lil while.

    it did muffle it a bit
     
  10. M.to.walker

    M.to.walker Notebook Consultant

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    As covered in my link, no, it may quiet it a little but is by no means a solution.

    It isn't recommended either, and most likely will vibrate out of a tightening
     
  11. derpderp

    derpderp Notebook Evangelist

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    Yet it solved the problem for some, cause it for others. If you claim the only one core issue is not random, then I demand explanation of its mechanism from your part.

    Bringing back the reg file again, messing with services has never been dangerous in any way, since even with all services disabled or all services on a computer still runs. And opening with notepad clearly shows which services it changes and to which value. That said if you dont want to use my reg you can use any of the 151541 service optimizer software out of the web, it does the exact same thing. Tweak Windows 7 Services With SMART | Windows 7 Services Optimiser

    "SMART automatically optimizes your services configuration in accordance to BlackViper’s guide. You are provided three presets – Safe, Tweaked and Advanced. As the name suggests, ‘Safe’ is intended to work on most PCs and disables only the absolutely useless services."

    See, Default/Safe/Tweaked, those are the same service layouts from my .reg, (only tweaked can cause some problem with apps relying on certain services or things such as dial up services, and even then it's just fixed by putting back the service the app needs on... manual or automatic).

    You're overestimating windows services chances to screw up, it's nowhere near the usal messy registry editing. That said, if you prefer things like dial up service or remote access to your registry services (commonly used by trojans btw) to be turned on and eating your ram and cpu time for nothing (svchost.exe = services), it's your choice.
     
  12. EddieThaDon

    EddieThaDon Newbie

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    this is my first post, however i've been "lurking" around since the early "HP Envy 14 Availability" days lol! Man time flies by lol! Anyways, my questions are: 1. Can i just save the swsetup file(s) of my envy to my external HDD for later use? 2. What are some good applications to have? Thanks!
     
  13. 2.0

    2.0 Former NBR Macro-Mod®

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    Yes. Also see page 1 of thread.
     
  14. ExodusC

    ExodusC Notebook Evangelist

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    Has anyone picked up one of those anti-glare screen protectors for their Envy 14? I've watched some videos on YouTube of these being used on a MBP (which obviously has edge-to-edge glass like the Envy 14), and they look pretty neat.

    I'm asking as I'm currently using a Vostro 3400 at the moment (not mine), and I think I'll miss the anti-glare screen.
     
  15. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    I also would like an anti-glare screen protector. Hopefully HP will offer one or decent third party vendor cut to fit.
     
  16. rhys006

    rhys006 Newbie

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    Makes sense 2.0. Thanks!
     
  17. ColdHeat

    ColdHeat Notebook Geek

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    I had no idea that I had an account on this site but since I do and apparently my last log in was two years and exactly one month ago, It's time for some posting.

    I got my HP Envy 14 a few days ago. Love it.

    Battery Life is fine for me. Its not the 7 hours originally stated on the video but its fine for someone going from a laptop with two hours of battery life.

    But I realized that the HP Envy does have some major flaws with bloatware and the nasty trackpad. So here are the solutions that I'm using to remedy both.

    1) Trackpad is configured the way shown in the OP's Link. Still the problem of right clicking. Solved by using Two Finger Scroll: two-finger-scroll - Project Hosting on Google Code


    2) After Clean Install, no indicator for audio increase/decrease/mute besides the small Speaker Icon. Solved with 3RVX: Download 3RVX (formerly 3r1c) 2.5 Free - A volume notification and control utility - Softpedia

    EDIT: Removed TouchFreeze from post. Doesn't work under 7. Finding alternative now.

    4) Haven't looked into Undervolting yet, but Granola is currently what I used before the clean install to lower the battery impact. I don't have numbers but if someone could do them with this software on, it would be great:
    Granola - Guilt free computing

    I'm still looking for a way to:
    Disable HP Logo (Unnecessary waste of battery life)
    Loosen USBs (Lube is out of the question)
     
  18. M.to.walker

    M.to.walker Notebook Consultant

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    You can help me end the whine in the Envy 14!

    You kids at home can now be part of the solution!

    Excellent!

    How? IF YOU DO SOMETHING WEIRD, PLEASE DO NOT GET MAD AT ME,

    All that I ask is you help me identify the source that is vibrating and causing the noise :D

    Under your the back panel of your computer, you can simply put your ear up to the laptop and listen for the whining or the sound your computer makes when it stops whining (the near silent stuttering noise). Make sure your AC adaptor is plugged in and your computer is asleep (CLOSED) just because it is dangerous to have it open and attempt to hold the back to your ear, its weight is awkward.

    I made the sound more silent by a variety of things and I'm having trouble locating whats emitting the remainder. It should be near where the AC adaptor is plugged in. Do not touch anything with ANY PRESSURE WHATSOEVER because you don't know what you're doing. Just listen and help me locate the emission.

    It will help speed up a solution, forsure
     
  19. HTWingNut

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    Nice, thanks, and welcome to NBR!

    TouchFreeze and Granola look interesting, I'll have to give them a look. My E14 hasn't shipped yet, but can't wait to get my hands on it so I can be Geek Masta B wid it.
     
  20. 2.0

    2.0 Former NBR Macro-Mod®

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    Yup, you HAVE to use that under you name when you get your Envy 14.

    I ain't playin' either. :D
     
  21. ColdHeat

    ColdHeat Notebook Geek

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    Lol, I'm not even sure I need a welcome b/c apparently I've been a member since 2008 XD
     
  22. ExodusC

    ExodusC Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm pretty sure the whine goes all the way down to the microscopic level.

    Have you ever built a PC that had a whining capacitor? There's not much you can do about it, aside from replacing the entire capacitor.

    If the whine is truly coming from within the CPU die, there's not much you can physically do to stop it.
     
  23. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    touchfreeze isn't doing anything. It apparently has issues in vista and win7 when installed by an administrator account or something weird like that
     
  24. neothe0ne

    neothe0ne Notebook Consultant

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    Anyone install the new Synaptics driver from July 20th?
    sp49152.exe

     
  25. matthew021

    matthew021 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Sorry to ask this again but i just did a clean install and when i try to download the intel turbo boost driver an error message comes up saying my system doesnt meet the minimum requirements. Any ideas? +rep for anyone who tells me
     
  26. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    did you install the chipset stuff already?
     
  27. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    it's technically from 5/27/2010 and yeah it's already installed on mine. seems to work fine.

    still is a bit iffy when two fingers are sitting on the touchpad but eh..palmcheck stuff solved that well enough
     
  28. nexus14

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    are you able to place a finger from your left hand where the left button is and navigate (move the cursor around) using a finger from the right hand?
     
  29. Thanatos82

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    Do you have to install separate driver after the main chipset driver? After my clean install I went to sw_setup/drivers/chipset, and then I clicked on the Setup.exe. Do I need to install anything else?
     
  30. Justos

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    thanks for that, that will probably be the first driver i update once my laptop comes in.
     
  31. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    no.

    it detects two fingers.
     
  32. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    or well.

    it works if you're really in the button zone.

    just laying your thumb across the button from the left end doesn't work since that falls outside the button zone (either across the top line or to far to the left. the button zone ends where that line ends)

    edit: I can rest my left finger on the edge of the middle of the button (just the end of the finger) and navigate fine with my right hand.

    if I push it forwards too much, it starts screwing up
     
  33. matthew021

    matthew021 Notebook Enthusiast

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    yes i installed all the other ones including the chipset one. In the device manager where it says system devices it lists the chipset drivers
     
  34. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    hmmm...

    did you install everything else (all the stuff in the misc1-misc4 folders in swsetup?

    I think one of those IS the turbo boost drivers but still)
     
  35. M.to.walker

    M.to.walker Notebook Consultant

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    I don't know. How badly you'd screw up my computer, bad grammar Hp rep?
     
  36. 2.0

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    Right. So then we'll sing you the Welcome Back Kotter theme song.

    <param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/QVS3WNt7yRU&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/QVS3WNt7yRU&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width='480' height="25"></embed></object>

    Added your contribs to 1st post , BTW. Thanks for that.
     
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  37. matthew021

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    Im pretty sure i did. I even tried to download it from the envy 14 drivers thread and it still had the same error message!
     
  38. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    are you on an i3 or an i5?
     
  39. matthew021

    matthew021 Notebook Enthusiast

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    i7 720 actually
     
  40. nexus14

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    gotcha. so i guess the lines on the touchpad represent the zone "boundaries"
     
  41. zeth006

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    That's horrid.
     
  42. nightmarerec0n

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    Is the screen actual glass or just glass like?
     
  43. Mike415

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    Supposed to be "rubbery" I think people said. Sounds strange, but its def not glass then.
     
  44. new_vaio_F

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    Since you did clean install, I dont think you install all the driver correctly. Either that, or your mouse just defective, I hardly see using a wired mouse on a laptop these days, get a wireless one, its cheap enough.

    I thought you said everything worked great after you did a clean install?

    The sample is above...one of the reason why we need to make a list what driver need to be installed, in order preferably. Plus people who doing clean install seems to be the one who complaints a lot about things that doesn't work.
     
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    How did this happen?seems to be the hinge have more then enough room to maneuver when you close the lid.
     
  46. mrzieman

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    No, no, no. There is a small rubber border surrounding the very outside edge of the glass to serve as a bumper for the screen to rest on when the lid is closed. The screen is absolutely not "rubbery."

    To that end, I can't say for sure whether it is true glass or some glass-like plastic. What I can say, though, is that it feels like glass to the touch. Like my HTC Evo's glass screen, its firm to the press and cold to the touch. I don't know how else to know if it's true glass or not without ramming my keys into it.
     
  47. M.to.walker

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    As is, the CPU whine is unfix able without swapping out the motherboard.

    This could happen with ANY CPU, I wish more people would cooperate in this research to help me. Underneath your battery, there is a model number,

    Mine reads HP Envy-14-1000.

    There are apparently lots of other models- 1001, 1003tx, etc.

    I question if its specific to models, model is specific to mobo, or maybe mobo is specific to cpu, etc.
     
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    I am curious. Is this whine noise audible enough to be recorded so that it can be heard on youtube? If so...it would be nice if someone here could volunteer to upload such a clip.
     
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  50. MagusDraco

    MagusDraco Biiiiiiirrrrdmaaaaaaan

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    *shrugs*


    I just installed everything in the swsetup folder almost in order.

    meaning chipset --> touchpad --> video ---> Misc1 --> Misc2 --> Misc3 --> Misc 4 ---> Network (Had no issues, windows set it up on its own before I updated to the current drivers. never had the deep sleep problem) ---> WLAN ---> Bluetooth (required turning WLAN on and off a couple times ..or a restart, don't remember which for the bluetooth to suddenly be all "hey, I exist, and you installed drivers for me! Sweeeet, setting myself up") ---> Audio ---> HPProtSHD (not in drivers, it's the hp protect hdd thing, It's one of those unknown devices) ---> HPToneControl (addition to the audio stuff) ---> HPQL from SWSetup folder (hey, my wifi button turns orange again, HURRAY!!)



    then ya know...I installed 3rvx 2.5 and microsoft security essentials and let windows update run a few times, etc
     
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