*HP ENVY 17 & 17 3D (2XXX series) Owners Lounge*

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Your easiest solution would be the BIOS mod since it allows Dynamic switching.
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someone using windows confirm the dynamic switch work? inside windows the dinamic program in catalyst to decide what problem use one or another card is working?

 

Someone on leshcatlabs messaged me that

" installed the BIOS from Donovan and was able to set the graphics mode to "Dynamic". With your default FTC F800 both the AMD and Intel card work well. I am even able to set brightness on both cards! " - HP Envy 17 2110eg

I am awaiting more details on driver versions etc etc

 

The BIOS version I have currently installed on my notebook HP ENVY 17 2070nr is F1.C.

Yesterday perform a clean installation of Windows 8.1 (64-bit) and install all updated drivers (latest). The only driver that does not install is the AMD 6850M video card, because the problem is happening to me.

I could work this way, but I would like to take the video card to run some games.

GREETINGS

 

Can anyone please help me?????? I bought the HP envy 17 cause they offered a 0% finance and i needed a big screen to play online poker. When i try to lauch my poker client, this is the exact message i get.
"Remote control software was detected on your machine. Due to regulations, remote control software cannot be running at the same time as the poker application. If you want to continue playing, close the remote control software and login again"

Can someone please tell me what remote control software they are talking about? I just got the laptop a few days ago and have no idea what remote control software comes with this laptop. thanks and hope to hear back from someone

 

Find the modded BIOS in the last 15 pages or so! Install that and retry the drivers!

Is it the original HP OS?

 

what do you mean original HP OS? i just bought it a week ago or two on the hp website. please excuse my computer illiteracy

 

I confirm that neither of those problems are solved with the modded bios. At least on my machine Envy 17 2001eg (non 3D)

 

DennisA on the leshcatlabs forums has another experience. Maybe the mix of modded BIOS + Dynamic made it tick. Hopefully I get more details soon.

The main aspect is the modded Intel (can be found in Unifl 13.12). It is broken in the latest versions.

 

I cannot install the intel driver from Unifl driver (even 13.12). My intel HW id is 0116, but I can only install the legacy driver (8.xx.xxxx version).
PS. I used to have a F.1D BIOS, but no body have a method to extract the BIOS...now I dont have it anymore...

 

I extracted the F1D BIOS but I am not certain if it will help you. Fritz is helping me in figuring out if this is a proper dump.

Very strange that 13.12 doesn't work. We are currently redoing the installer for UnifL. Once that is done I will upload a separate Intel version just for the 6850m. Hopefully over the weekend... One thing is certain. There is a UnifL version out there that has the proper 3223 modded Intel for 6850m. I just do not have all my logs on this backup HDD that I am using.

 

well, I highly doubt about the dumped bios, since it need to be signed properly.

thank you all for the generous contribute. I d like to be a lab rat.

 

voncrisp, yes i believe this is a HP operating systerm. can you please help me?

 

Honestly speaking I do not know what could be interfering with your game client.

I would open up the taskbar and start shutting down processes that you do not need to see where that gets you. 3rd party applications ... that sort of stuff.

Did you format the system ever since you received it? .. was it clean?

 

Who need to give you support about this poker program is the company you are playing, not here. this is not related to computer ..

 

no i did not do a single thing to it since i got it

 

Anyone knows how to change GPU's voltage? I tried modding my vbios but voltage won't change.

 

Anyone here ever "upgrade" their CPU to a 22nm 35W model? I'm thinking of installing either the i7-3632QM or i7-3612QM. Performance increase would be marginal, but I would mainly do it for the lower TDP.

Also just got a 240GB Intel 530 SSD in the mail today. It will replace my 300GB Intel 320. Got an amazing deal on it and don't mind losing some capacity to gain SATAIII.

2.5 years now and my 17t-2100 is still running like a champ though. Best laptop I've ever owned. Hasn't given me single bit of trouble in all this time (save the once in a blue moon thermal shutdown while gaming overclocked). Still running on the same custom OS install I did back then; I think it's about time to refresh things... lol.

 

Oops, posted that without doing enough research. Those are Ivy Bridge CPUs not "officially" supported by the HM67, but they do work with the H67 desktop version. It's probably pretty safe to assume the BIOS does not support the CPUID either.

I wonder if I could get donovan6000 to add the CPUID for the 3632QM to the unlocked BIOS. Seems like he's currently pretty upset about not getting paid for other mods he did though.

EDIT: Actually, I just found a post of his detailing how to modify the BIOS with a new CPUID. I'm not super proficient with this kind of stuff, but it doesn't look too difficult....

http://donovan6000.blogspot.com/2013/06/insyde-bios-modding-cpu-microcodes.html

Dang, I don't have any idea how he got around the RSA signing, so there is no way for me to mod the BIOS myself.

 

Ivy bridge have different socket from sandy bridge by one single pin. If someone test get out this in to do work. change the bios is easy.

 

Electrically or physically? They are both G2 socket and the pictures I can find of both look identical. Also, how are there desktop boards that can take both Sandy and Ivy G2 if they are different? Not saying you are wrong, I'm just confused.

Sorry, I don't understand this sentence. :/

I can get ahold of a 3632QM to test if I can get the BIOS modded with the microcode.

 

Ivy bridge on the mobile platform will NOT be compatible with HM65 and HM67 chipsets due to a new mobile socket.

 

If this works : O

I wonder how HD 4000 will run with 6850m :O

So many questions. Would LVDS mod still be needed for the Intel HD 4000 .. would it even work?!?!?! This is pretty interesting!

I think Fritz meant that if someone can insert the chip .. and get it to work (ie from the BIOS side it can be edited by Donovan or enabled by Fritz)

However I am not sure about this pin business. If they really are different.


Edit:

From a quick glance online. Many people seem to agree that you can combine HM67 with Ivy Bridge. All that has to be edited is the CPUID!!!

 

Do you have any source to back this up? I can't find any info anywhere stating that there is a difference. If you look at the link below is shows both the i7-2630Qm and i7-3632QM as both being fully compatible with the G2/rPGA988B socket....

Socket G2 / Socket rPGA988B

EDIT: Ah, ok. I see now there are three different "G2" sockets...

rPGA989
rPGA988A
rPGA988B

http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/1651018.pdf

****BUT GOOD NEWS****

Not all Ivy bridge are the same socket! Both the 2630QM (currently installed) and the 3632QM are rPGA988 B, so the only thing holding me back is the BIOS.

Someone get me the BIOS modded (please) and I will be the tester! The Ivy microcode would need to replace the 000206A6 section and not the 000206A7 so that I can make sure the BIOS still works with my 2630QM before switching the CPU.

 

Have a read through this:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/har...636978-ivy-bridge-mobile-3920xm-tested-6.html

Looks like ME 7 will have to be updated to ME 8 ... I haven't found info if this guy managed to get it to work.

 

Well damn, I never really new what the Intel Management Engine was for. I thought it was just some kind of system administration tool for business environments. :/

I see with the unlocked BIOS there is the option to enable ME re-flash, so may this is still possible? I don't have a clue how any of that is done though.

 

I thought the same. However I could not get a 100% on if it isn't possible to update this.

I know very little of the ME tools. I used ME 8 to dump the F.1D BIOS and it seems possible to update ME too.

You need more info! Trial and error! Wait for Fritz to hook you up with more information on modded BIOS etc. I only know about graphics drivers .

Edit: this might help:

http://www.win-raid.com/t171f39-Intel-Management-Engine-Drivers-Firmware-and-Tools.html


Yeah an ME reflash might be possible. I came upon this link through Fritz & Donovan!!! It is best to wait for Fritz.. I think he is in touch with Donovan.

 

Dang, another hurdle. I think IB processors only work with UEFI.

 

the HP envy 17 2xxx 3d series have the socket "rPGA989" not the rPGA988A or rPGA988B..

 

If it is a 989 socket, then it's the one described here....

Socket G2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

HWiNFO64 lists my CPU as Socket G2 (rPGA988B), which is the exact same as the 3632QM.

 

IDK if this helps but my HW64 lists this:

Socket G2 (rPGA988B)

3D Envy btw!

 

Yes, see my last post. Looks like the confusion comes from the fact there is a 989 socket than can take 988B CPUs. Mine is also the 3D model for clarification.

 

So essentially the physical slot is a 989 whilst the HW64 software picks it up from a chip basis as 988B. Fritz has taken these devices apart so I guess the 989 socket is in our devices physically.

 

The 988B CPUs have one less pin than the 989's, but they obviously work in the socket. You could not however fit a 989 CPU in a 988B socket.

The socket isn't even an issue at this point, I'm certain that the Ivy CPU will fit. It seems the deal breaker here is that Ivy requires UEFI (from what I've read so far).

 

Fritz would know more about UEFI

 

From my read
Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM Processor (6M Cache, up to 2.90 GHz)
Package Size 37.5mm x 37.5 (rPGA998)
Sockets Supported FCPGA988

Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM Processor(6M Cache, up to 3.40 GHz)
Package Size 37.5 x 37.5mm (rPGA988B)
Sockets Supported FCPGA988

since our device use the "rPGA989" that is universal for the model A or B. In Theory can work.
IF someone send me a IVY Bridge CPU 3610QM or newer ( I have a envy 17 2xxx 3d board to test) or test the mode bios I do the bios mod. ( we will have the bios video problem to, I dont know how this will work and if will work).

Just let me know who will do it and who i need send the bios.
But i need confirm you have the cpu first to test.

 

Yeap, 989 is universal receiver for rPGA988A or rPGA988B I can get a picture for you guys from this board to show is a 989.

 

This is not a real problem really. The intel video is more problematic than that.

 

Fritz, I can have the 3632QM in a few days. If you can mod the BIOS I would greatly appreciate it. Please keep the microcode in place for the CPUID 0206A7 and replace the 0206A6 with the new 0306A9 code.

Not holding much hope that it will work, but at the very least it will give me an excuse to take my laptop apart and clean the fan... lol.

 

Looks like Intel Management Interface Engine might become an issue. I guess we will have to wait and see.

 

It's not just change the id from the cpu. I'm to change the entire microcodefor the cpus.... Then instead use our chipset microcode i'm to use noather one.. that have suport for this cpu. things are not very easy lol...

 

The cpu boot is the primary problem. this will not be a problem at all. this is more a chipset thing than cpu.
If the cpu boot and show in bios correct. then everything more will work..

 

You are right. After more reading on how to change the ME .. I realised voltage tables have to be changed etc.

I was looking at InsydeFlash and I realised that it can do a backup of my BIOS. (platform.ini)

I also realised that ME gets flashed by this. .. and I can most likely make a "full" dump of F.1D.

 

basically I'm to get the microcode from 3xxx model and try to use in 2xxx one. But I'm not to test this without a cpu.

 

Yes, I will have the CPU either tomorrow or Saturday.

I have replaced the entire microcode section in the unlocked BIOS for CPUID 0206A6 with the microcode for 0306A9. I used the new Intel microcode from cpu000306a9_plat00000012_ver00000019_date20130613.bin. I was going to use the microcode from Envy 17 3200 BIOS, but maybe newer is better?

Where do you find the chipset code you were talking about? I'm just trying to do this myself to learn, feel free to tell I'm doing something wrong.

Donovan told me not to worry about RSA verification, but I forgot to ask if I need to re-encrypt the BIN file when I'm done?

 

Speaking of which .. the 3xxx BIOS will most likely also have the newer ME inside it. Could be forced to flash that separately.

 

Yeap. the microcode is cpu000306a9_plat00000012_ver00000019_date20130613.bin
first, before use this one. Use the one for our device. do the mode and test using your actual processor.
After you find that the process already work, then you do the mod using the new microcode.
Chipset is specified for your board. look the hp model board.

" the newer ME inside it" what is this?

 

I found some good info on ME updating....

About Intel Management Engine firmware

So I think to get Ivy to work the BIOS definitely needs updated to version 8. There's a tool to check which version a BIOS currently has; I'll play around with it when I get home from work.

 

Yeap. the microcode is cpu000306a9_plat00000012_ver00000019_date20130613.bin
first, before use this one. Use the one for our device. do the mode and test using your actual processor.
After you find that the process already work, then you do the mod using the new microcode.
Chipset is specified for your board. look the hp model board.

" the newer ME inside it" what is this?

My friend. HP bios is so ed that you need a miracle to update this...
If you try to extract your firmware to open in FITC you will receive a big error message about adress mismatch.
If you turn in moded bios the me flash bios to enable, your windows will stop to load the driver ( maybe just under windows 32? who know)...

This is an HP ... lol

 

Before you start to play with this you need to find the Management Engine Tools 7 and not the Management Engine Tools 8.1.
Our me firmware still in version 7 this FITC version 8 cant deal with our me images. Same the original from intel site.

If you find out the FITC7. then MAYBE I can start to play with this.

Or find another device like our ( bios) with this enabler. ( the similar one is acer and its not compatible, another kind of bios, not insyde).