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    HP Envy 14: Availabilty, etc.

    Discussion in 'HP' started by exi, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. Jonnyinter

    Jonnyinter Notebook Consultant

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    This comes out weeks after I just order my lenovo... great. It looks pretty sick though. I might have to cancel my order.

    Any word on when this will come out?
     
  2. tybert7

    tybert7 Notebook Evangelist

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    Capt'n Corrupt Notebook Evangelist

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    The screen alone puts the Envy in a class of its own. Considering that this is a major interface, and thus, an INCREDIBLY important part of the user experience, the Envy aces this category. The colour reproduction (according to older envy models) should be great, and the resolution very good!

    Thankfully, the laptop doesn't skimp in other areas. HP really listened to customer feedback, and it shows. The Envy 14 is practically perfect. And the price is jaw-dropping!!

    Let just hope that the quality lives up to the specs! If so, this will be my new lappie at some point this year.

    }:^)~
     
  5. KrazyStuff

    KrazyStuff Notebook Enthusiast

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    How about Canada? Going by our current Envy situation, the prices here will suck! If I buy in the states and take it into Canada, is the warranty valid? What are my options here?

    The Envy 14 with i5 540m, 5650 (or better), and 1600 x 900 screen is perfect. Compared to other 14"ers I was comparing:

    Acer 4820TG - Crappy resolution screen, no eSATA, no release date!
    Asus N82jv - Crappy resolution screen, some other things I forgot
    Lenovo Y460 - Crappy resolution screen, only i5 520m available, heat issues

    I was actually looking into buying a higher res LCD panel and swapping the screen myself with one of these lappys lol.

    I can't wait!
     
  6. spencerattack

    spencerattack Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey, I posted this a few pages back but it seems to have gotten buried:
    I'm really curious about HP's reliability. Could I expect to keep the Envy 14 for the next four years? Would a SquareTrade warranty through Amazon be sufficient insurance, or would you all recommend an HP Total Care package?
     
  7. crovax

    crovax Notebook Geek

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    Cant help you on reliability sencer but HP is a big brand and the envy line is their premium line. Nornally Premium lines have better reliability. BUt get a extended warranty just incase.

    On another note.

    Does anyone know what the dimensions are for the Envy 14?
     
  8. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    Out of 3 different CTO Envy 15's we have experienced black screen/crashing issues with two of them. The first one was returned for refund and the third is still in the 21-day period. We will most likely return it.
     
  9. joia

    joia Notebook Enthusiast

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    What is required for the 21 day return period? Can I just call up HP and stick everything in the original box and say I want to return it? Will they give me a free shipping label?
     
  10. joia

    joia Notebook Enthusiast

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    Maybe I won't care with the return information. The anandtech article here HP Unveils Latest Spring 2010 Laptops - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News says the Envy 14 starts with an i3 processor and optional discreet graphics. This tells me after getting an i5 and the ati graphics the price will probably be at least 1200, which automatically turns me off.

    If the bottom of the barrel 999 price includes an i5 430 and the discreet graphics, I will consider returning my Envy 15 for it.
     
  11. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    Yes, they email you a prepaid FedEx shipping label instantly and they refund your total within a few days, including the tax and initial shipping cost of your purchase.
     
  12. crovax

    crovax Notebook Geek

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  13. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    Check the interview with the Envy product manager for Envy 14 and 17 linked in the previous post. He makes it clear that the base 14 has a Core i5 and ATI 5650 gpu, even the DVD drive - though unfortunately, no Blu Ray option on the 14 (just so that we can't have the perfect machine!), but all this for $999. I think from all I've heard from the interviews w/HP personnel (there are at least 3-4 floating around youtube), the $999 base includes just about everything except cpu upgrades (presumably i5-430 is the base, up to i7 quad is available), and of course memory and storage upgrades. Man, this will crash a massive hole into the marketplace - all for our good. (This might not be a good day to invest in the stocks of any consumer pc mour anufacturers, except maybe HP, but it's a small portion of their business.) If the 14 is not made like garbage - and I wouldn't put it past HP to cut every corner that doesn't show up on a spec sheet - it will make almost every consumer notebook pc look overpriced by 25-100%. HP is using the oldest trick in the book to gain market share - buy it with below-cost pricing! Hat's off to them. Consumers are the winners. Dell, Sony, Asus, Toshiba: look out! Apple - nah, they'll continue to sell Macbook Pro 15's with NOTHING over the Envy 14 except 0,9" of screen real estate for 2.5X the price! (One can still hope, though ;)

    Oh HP, please don't make another computer look great on paper and work like s**t. You are probably looking at your last chance for credibility in anything but the low budget, low quality marketplace. Do it right, and you have bought yourself a couple of percentage points of market share for a few years to come, knock Dell on it's heels, and rescue your absolute rock-bottom reputation for quality and technical support. Let's also hope there is new management in these areas. It won't take long to find out. Look no further than the NBR Owners Lounges!
     
  14. ChivalricRonin

    ChivalricRonin Notebook Evangelist

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    I sent back my Gen1 Envy 15 because of the lack of E2E display, backlit keyboard, and non-ACPI compliant BIOS and I told them as much: I wanted to run Linux on my Envy without it melting. They have subsequently put an edge-to-edge screen and a backlit keyboard into the Envy14 and I HOPE they fixed the BIOS. It seems like HP got enough Envy models returned that they would learn not to cut corners on a premium laptop anymore.
     
  15. joia

    joia Notebook Enthusiast

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    ^If that's the case, I'll really have to consider it. I've got 18 days left to decide.
     
  16. tc2007

    tc2007 Notebook Consultant

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    I should have started a separate thread for this but I also got blank screens / crashes / hard reboots / screen freezing issue and I have narrowed it down to the below "design flaw"

    When even a small pressure is applied to the memory stick cover next to the battery, it pushes the memory module slightly and this causes the memory connection to cut off for a moment which in turn causes the problem. Whenever I move my hand on that area, I was getting these problems without fail, when I remove the memory module and tried it, no problems what so ever.
    Using the notebook on a hard surface minimizes the problem, but this is a serious design flaw. If the cover is sturdy enough, it should not be a problem. But I think for some users, this cover is slightly flexible therefore causing this problem.
     
  17. HKINGS

    HKINGS Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm definitely interested in possibly pursuing the HP ENVY 14 as my next laptop machine. (I'm also looking at the new Sony Z11) however, the lack of Blue-ray is a bummer as I wanted it both for personal and business purposes.

    That said, does anyone think it might be possible for the slot-load Blu-ray of the ENVY 17 to be installed manually into the drive space of the ENVY 14 without much issue?

    I know we wont know officially for a month or so, but in theory could it work? If so, it might be worth trying to get the part separately through HP.
     
  18. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    One of the engineers on the PR video indicated that the chassis of the Envy 14 is too thin for the BD-ROM drive.
     
  19. HKINGS

    HKINGS Notebook Evangelist

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    DAMN! :( Thanks for the info. Oh well... that might rule that one out. Maybe I'll see how big of a Monster the 17 is... How much is that one supposed to weigh again?
     
  20. Star Forge

    Star Forge Quaggan's Creed Redux!

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    7-something lbs. Or basically an Envy 15 w/ a Slice Battery attached.
     
  21. bolt.pt

    bolt.pt Notebook Evangelist

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    He says in the video that the Envy 17 weighs 7.5 pounds.
     
  22. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    The service manual lists the Envy 17 weight at 3.71 kg / 8.18 lbs :(
     
  23. one33_bpm

    one33_bpm Notebook Consultant

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    i dont think that i am gonna post the dimensions, weight, or price of any of the laptops. This is because these are variable with the options you get for each.

    sorry!
     
  24. ggcvnjhg

    ggcvnjhg Notebook Evangelist

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    It's roughtly 10% quicker in most gaming benchmarks.
     
  25. ggcvnjhg

    ggcvnjhg Notebook Evangelist

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    Weight is not the only factor in determining how portable a laptop is. For a lot of people, a 14" form actor is absolutely pushing it. We're the one's that have been using 13.3" notebooks or even smaller. The Envy 15 for what it's worth is just about the WIDEST 15" laptop on the market. At 14.9", it's damn near as wide as some 16" notebooks. The form factor of the 15 is absolutely out of the question for a lot of us. For the people where this is a non-issue, they probably already own the Envy 15.

    Honestly, I'd easily take a smaller package that weights slightly more. No contest for me.

    Also, consider another factor. The battery life of an Envy 15 to reach 7 hours is with the slice. With the slice, it's size becomes a monstrosity.
     
  26. ggcvnjhg

    ggcvnjhg Notebook Evangelist

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    Best post ever. Seriously. Maybe it's because I started using notebooks when they were black and white but a little bit of perspective can go a long way.

    The best part about people comparing their "$999" Envy 15 is that they're completely ignoring the $450 off coupon they use. Genius at work. It's almost head scratching sometimes...
     
  27. mister_alakista

    mister_alakista Notebook Guru

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    'Ray Allen' :D
    I think the CIA have something like this. Saw it on Alias.
    But the HP EVERYTHING needs more usb 3.0 ports!!! >:-[
     
  28. nu_D

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    I loved the 2lbhs at the end...lol.

    For $999, kind of sure the 5650 won't be standard, I'd be shocked to be honest. The accountants are going to get their hands on it over the next 2 months and start changing things up.

    The display, GPU, and maybe even the memory are going to be reduced. Display I'm pretty certain about, that sort of display is never standard.

    Probably hit $1400 or so for a basically loaded system, sans i7/ssd.

    On any account, it's a sick system at a good price, just hope HP doesn't cut too much out at that standard price....
     
  29. ggcvnjhg

    ggcvnjhg Notebook Evangelist

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    HP for the last few years usually releases some monster coupons or a massive Bing promotion every 3 months or so. It'll coincide soon.
     
  30. moviemarketing

    moviemarketing Milk Drinker

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    What is the 4th D on this graphics card? Smell-o-vision? Also...glad to hear it will come with a backlit back! ;-)
     
  31. Mike415

    Mike415 Notebook Evangelist

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    What are the chances it wont let you apply them with the Envy 14? Are you talking about the 300-400 off that people were talking about? If so I guess I can wait.
     
  32. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    Watched another video, and the rep mentioned quad core. How is this going to keep cool? Either way I'm getting dual core so it shouldn't be an issue for me.

    Some other tidbits that are awesome:

    The power supply for the 14 is small and compact, no more bricks.

    I don't think HP was kidding when they said brightest screen. In every video that thing really stands out, looks brighter than any MBP screen.

    I like how the components are easy to access, *cough* I'm looking at you Apple, who doesn't even let users replace their batteries.

    Overall, I'm quite impressed by this effort by HP. The Envy 14 is going to sell like crazy and the Envy 17 will definitely be able to pull on its own. I took a look at the new pavilion models, and I love the design and the colors. I want those colors on the Envies :D.

    @moviemarketing

    Yes, it is smell-o-vision. A BIOS update will be released that will create support for taste-o-vision.
     
  33. ggcvnjhg

    ggcvnjhg Notebook Evangelist

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    For the most part, various 300-450 coupons have worked on the Envy's all this year as has Bing Cashback.

    It's all speculation of course whether or not they decide to not allow it to be used with the Envy 14.
     
  34. ggcvnjhg

    ggcvnjhg Notebook Evangelist

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    Got a link for this video?
     
  35. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    I want one, NOW. Put one on my closest Bbuy so I can go buy one.
     
  37. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    haha me too. I'm hoping Best Buy carries them, and in the configuration I want.
     
  38. chase17

    chase17 Notebook Consultant

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    I've definately found my new laptop ;)
     
  39. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    Better change your sig :)

    I didn't know the new HP Mini 210 used a specialized animation UI, that's pretty sweet. Hope they have more than just the butterfly theme though.
     
  40. awaizy

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    So, any idea of its release? I would love to get a 14, but I need it by the second week of June.

    If the 14 wins on battery life, it will be a HUGE hit.
     
  41. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    If I recall it's June 27. So I think your out of luck for it coming anywhere near mid June.
     
  42. ggcvnjhg

    ggcvnjhg Notebook Evangelist

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    Same. If it's at my BB, I'd overpay a little just to walk in and out of it.. I just need the 56560 video card and the 16x900 screen. The cpu, anything over i3 is fine for me. Just bring it out.
     
  43. exi

    exi Notebook Evangelist

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    ^^ Nobody reads the press release, I swear.

    But as to the sentiment... I'm seriously considering selling my MBP for that 14 incher. If the battery life turns out, it's mine. ALL MINE! (cue demonic laughter)
     
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    Sorry if it's been answered, but any information on Canadian prices?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  45. Kuu

    Kuu That Quiet Person

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    Looks like a really nice Macbook like Windows Based PC, but with better hardware.

    If they still make them in 4 years, I know my next book :3
     
  46. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    Why 4 years?
     
  47. URPradhan

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    Envy14 will be available from 17th June
     
  48. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    Straight off the press release via Engadget:

    - "The HP ENVY 14 is expected to be available in the United States on June 27 with a starting price of $999. The HP ENVY 17 is expected to be available in the United States on May 26 with a starting price of $1,399.99."
     
  49. ohmyggg

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    You're correct except for the fact that most Envy 15 owners or prospective buyers do not/will not have their machines configured to such a high spec.

    For example, my Envy 15 has an i5 (not i7), 4GB of 1066mhz RAM (not 16GB of 1333mhz), no dual drives/SSD (just single HDD), no USB 3.0 (stuck with 2.0), no slice, no external cd or blu-ray drive, etc.

    I can spec an Envy 14 VERY close to what I have now on my Envy 15 and I'll be adding:
    • edge to edge
    • backlit keyboard
    • switchable graphics
    • slot-loading optical drive
    • rounded front palmrest edge
    • dual-monitor output
    • wwan
    • better portability
    • much better battery life

    My only sacrifices would be screen size + resolution (in favor of a radiance display), shortcut row of keys (no big deal), and graphics card which might very well be configurable to the 5830 anyway.
     
  50. Kuu

    Kuu That Quiet Person

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    My current laptop isn't even 1 year old :D
     
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