HP Envy 14: Availabilty, etc.

Yes, but i7 doesn't really make that much sense in the Envy 14. The 14 is HP's mobility platform, so I expect higher availability of the more "mobile" (ie. less battery-hungry) CPUs. Maybe it's wishful thinking, but I feel that anything else would be outright stupid.

 

I digged a bit the internet and :
-Both fusion and sandy bridge are for first quarter 2011 (means you'll have to wait nearly march next year to be able to buy the first decent laptops on those new platforms, as the first ones are always overpriced failures most of the time).

-At VERY BEST sandy will be less powerfull than the amd fusion and yet the amd fusion graphic solution would hit at BEST once again the power of a HD 5650-5670. Which is what we have in the envy 14 in any case.

So in the end waiting to next year only resumes as gaining some cpu power (which we don't even know the extent of, not more than 25% imo...)

- Chances are that constructers will go all apesh!t "LOOK ITS A APU NOT A CPU SO AWESOME", and price them as high as current CPU+GPU solutions.

- Graphical driver support from intel will be terrible at first. AMD having bought ATI may be alright.

- Next year prenium APU+GPU solutions will imo only give a slight boost in autonomy by sending optimus to the trap. And the perf gain in games will mainly only come from the newness of said GPU. I don't see them working out within one year a way to make the APU graphic unit work side on side with the GPU on the same task. Maybe it'll be able to handle PhysX on the side and save the gpu some work but meh... As long as CPU and GPU are using different codes it won't be ever possible to combine them as a SLI like thing.


Personally it's way too many IF and AT BEST for me. And yet even AT BEST we would only get something as powerful as the current envy 14 and 17 but MAYBE a bit cheaper and faster CPU wise...

And most of all, even if we wait next platforms it's not said HP will rededit the envy line with APU's before 2012... so we're off with lower quality build constructors.

 

As many have said, most people looking at the Envy 14 aren't planning on waiting for the "next big thing."

For example, having sold my previous battery-hungry laptop, I really need a new laptop now-- and the Envy 14 (hopefully) has everything I need.

 

Your right about the 14 being the mobility platform ... that's why it makes no sense that HP will not offer the I7-620M in it.

 

What are you talking about? Are you saying the price will go up after initial release? I have basically never seen that happen with computers.

But I agree that usually the prices we get in Norway are a bit high compared with what we see in other countries. Though keep in mind, so is the average Norwegian's salary. However, the prices listed for the Envy 17 call for optimism regarding pricing for the Envy 14.

Oh, and of course you won't find good computer deals at the likes of Lefdal and Elkjøp. Those who know what they're looking for and know what it should cost use the web shops. Those who just want a computer or just don't know any better buy at Elkjøp and Lefdal.

I wish HP would start offering customizable computers via their website also in Europe, like they do in the US. Dell and Multicom are the only companies that offer this service in Norway. I do hope we will get some proper configurations of Envy 14 here.

What I want is:

• Core i5-450, 520 or 540
• Radiance display, 1600x900
• Slice battery

Any hard drive from 320GB and up is acceptable. I will probably put in an SSD eventually, anyway. The rest is standard.

 

Ah, yes. I was a little too quick. I meant the i7 quad core does not make much sense for the Envy 14, both because of higher power consumption and because of the lack of switchable graphics. 620M would be alright, I guess, but I think I still would prefer an i5 for the lower power consumption and thus longer battery life.

 

Is anyone else still worried about the Envy 14 base model having a Core i3 instead of a Core i5? Various HP directors said it starts with a Core i5, but HP's website lists a "Core i7, i5, or i3" as a choice.

I'd like to think the Core i3 is a CULV model for longer battery life, but I don't believe those are widely, if at all, available to OEMs.

 

Its not gonna be a culv if they do have i3 as an option.

 

That's what I'm saying, it's disappointing to think it might not come with an i5 in the base model.

 

From everything we've heard i5 will come with the 999 model, that doesn't necessarily mean its the base model though.

 

meh. i3 or i5. i don't care. i am buying this for aesthetics and mobility, not its ability to perform like a madman.

 

i want i5 and if i gota pay 100$ to get that upgrade il be upset

 

Agreed... I'm really hoping that the directors are correct in saying the Core i5 will be on the base $999 model. I don't care if it's the lowest in Core i5, I just really want an i5 for Turbo Boost, as the majority of my applications are still single threaded anyhow.

 

I don't mind how powerful it can be, as long as it can achieve a good battery life to power ratio.

I would have bought a HP Envy 17 if I wanted pure power.

 

If I wanted solely battery life, I'd get an ASUS UL series laptop. They hit 12+ hours on a single charge.

I'm looking for something with a good balance of power and battery life.

 

Heres an idea, how about we stop speculating and just wait till we have definitive solid info?

 

Tell that to the 140-odd pages of previous speculation...

Can't stop people from wondering.

 

If this somehow fails im buying the 17.

the 17 was correct info wise before release (as stated in videos), so why wouldn't the 14 be?

 

That doesn't work, I've already tried...
It's funny seeing people make stuff up, then four other people saying "NO WAI!?! Then this thing!"

 

Oh thats the best. I love some of the ideas people just rip out of the air. Some morn in this thread somewhere was speculating that it'd come standard with a 4570 or something Its ridiculous.

 

Well, let's hope HP releases some actual specs soon, that would help alleviate everyone's questions and concerns. Not to mention a release date. That's speculation as well.

 

The release date isn't speculation. It was in a press release straight from HP.

 

I think we all need to send an email to HP or call or something and ask for all available information they have on the 14. maybe then, just maybe, we can get SOME information...

 

guys i heard it's going to come with a i7 for 999 (my attempt at starting a false rumor) lol

 

I was actually chatting with a hp sales agent earlier today. I was asking some questions about a few models then asked a question about the hp envy 14 and he immediately ended the session.

 

wait, how so? like he just hung up, or he said he wasn't allowed to talk about it, or what?

 

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On a slightly more serious note:
How soon do you think the 14 will be orderable (in the us)?
I remember they released specs for the 17 about a week before the release date, though it could've just been correct speculation... I don't remember where I saw it

 

it was the online chat. he said he doesn't have any information on that model and ended the chat session immediately.

 

Well that's not suspicious.
Did you try opening another chat?

 

No I didn't feel like waiting again.

 

i'll try right now am curious

 

mentioning the envy 14 may be a flag that says you have every intention of not buying anything then and there so they may as well spend there time with another who might be interested in buying something sooner.

 

uhp gotta try tomorrow they are closed anyone got the link for the chat?

 

I think it's likely that the spec sheet on the official site is an actual configuration but that model is not the absolute base specs that will come with the $999 price tag.

The base will not have 6GB RAM (a $200 upgrade over 4GB on the 17" model although this model could start with 3GB base instead of 4GB). There may be an i3 in the base as well (also on the official site) so an i5 430 could be a $75 upgrade based on the dv5 pricing.

This also means a likely $100 upgrade to get the higher resolution screen (like on the 17" model). Maybe $25 for BT as well if they were struggling to hit the $999 mark.

Personally I'm budgeting for around $1400 for an i5, a RAM upgrade to 4GB and the better screen, which is still good value to me.

I think people hoping for all that stuff in the $999 model will be disappointed, unfortunately. You gotta remember in the 'marketing' videos they are basically just listing out all of the best things about the product: 'starts at $999', '1600x900 screen', 'core i5 and i7', 'eyefinity' etc. etc. The base config will not have all of that stuff.

 

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Thanks for sharing the release date...

 

They gave the US release date, but no others. I hope Canada comes up within a week of that date. :\

 

June 27 in the US.

 

He was afraid that you were going to ask him about his role in the Kennedy assisination.

 

haha guys.

i seriously still doubt for 999 it will come with an i3. like i said before, even HP offers laptops with i7 processors for less then that.

 

the base price has an i5...
the director stated it himself.

Thanks for the rumor Justos.

 

The guy with the beard in the videos? He is the director of marketing, hardly the authority on specs and way more likely to big up the selling points. The HP website says i3. I really hope its i5 but I'm not counting on it.

Just look at how much mileage they have gotten already by talking about the $999 price point. It gets people to the site and then they make their real money on the upgrades.

They are going to charge a premium for the aesthetics, but it will still be better value than a macbook pro, which they are clearly positioning the Envy line against.

 

No, the other guy with a beard, Barry Ferris. He is the Premium Notebook Lead, which includes the Envy line. He said "starting at 999 with a Core i5"
until we see otherwise, that is the truth.

 

TWENTY DAYS TO GO!!

 

On the HP website video, it say Barry Ferris is the "Product Marketing Manager, Hp Envy".

But we do see otherwise on the website. I hate to be the downer but I kinda take the website over some spiel from the marketing department.

I guess there could be a sub-$999 model with an i3 though. Lets hope so.

 

HP Germany now officially allows preording via the HP online store. Availability says "within 4 weeks". Yeah!

 

Wow. What about for the US?

I'd personally say wait, but then again, it wouldn't be a bad idea to buy early then whine to HP CSR that you won't keep your E14 unless they refund you the amount you would've saved with the coupons and BCB.


Whaddya all think?

 

Time goes by slow when we watch it so closely...

 

is anyone else worried about the envy 17 and its problems and how it may relate to the 14?

 

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