HP Envy 14: Availabilty, etc.

Envy 13 - I never researched a single word about the Envy 13 because I knew it wouldn't satisfy me and is being discontinued. Probably cool because of the Intel Core 2 Duo.
Envy 14 - Lots of room for cooling has been sacrificed for the ODD. But who knows. i5 may run cool.
Envy 15 - i7 gets HOT. Did the refresh fix that issue? i5 reviewers say it runs cool.
Envy 17 - Recently came out, and i7 users say it gets a tad bit hot.

 

If the ENVY 14 ends up having cooling problems, I'm going back to 3820TG or GX or even spending a bit more on a G53.

 

I was also researching for the 3820TG. Similar specs and release date, although the Asus is slimmer, offers the i7-620M, and probably has more battery life. But I'm may be going for the Envy for its better screen and build quality. I've heard that Acer offers pretty bad construction. Still debating though.

 

oh what the hell.

another drive by spammer

 

Come on, can't we at least get an HP Envy drive-by spammer?

 

Are there any rumors or w/e about it?
I'd be willing to wait for a nicer 15 with usb 3.0 for i5 processors and updated w/e.

 

any news if the 14 will or wont come with an option for usb 3.0, as the 15 had with the core i7s?

 

5730 should theoretically overclock better. although the same chip, the 5730 would be exclusively the chips that worked well at higher clocks.

 

from the datasheets that we've seen, usb3.0 seems like a no go on the envy 14

 

Depends on which one you're referring to. No one knows with certainty just what we'll be getting.

11 days left.

 

Ah, just had a look at the pictures! It is not a display port as HP sais in their specs but a mini-display port. Just ordered a mini-displayport/DVI-D and a mini-displayport/VGA adapter.

 

I'd like to see that advert on TV, one minutes of Jackassery running over the laptop and throwing it off buildings, demoing full bloodied games with a little FPS counter in the corner, and dry benchmark facts fading in and out. It's got to have Charlie Brooker too, and some E3 babes!

Yeah, ... That will really work for the trendy 'MacBook Pro for Windows' metrosexual market!

To be fair, I don't think they are that bothered about gamers, although it's a nice market to tap, we'll be all over it when independent internet reviews are finally released.

 

Still no big news on the envy14? Really? grrrrr...

Whats wrong with big companies these days? They have NO interaction with the consumers. Would it really hurt HP to have a small team of a dozen people who go out around the internet and promote their products on blogs and forums? This would provide a much needed channel of communication between us and HP.

I don't really like Apple at all, but they are really good at this. 1) They have the Apple stores, which lets us actually go in and ask them questions and browse their products. 2) Their CEO is the face of their company and actually DOES things. Hell, he even answers peoples emails from time to time. Why haven't over companies like HP caught on to this? I believe these two things, along with clever advertising, are the main reason why Apple can get away with charging 2x as much for a laptop.

Blizzard and Valve are two gaming companies who do this as well. No one uses any other forum besides the official Blizzard forums because blizzard devs actually talk to the players of their games on their official forums. This sucks everyone into one place where they can keep in close contact to their subscribers, and in turn keep them happy, and preview whats to come. This is the reason why WoW has 12 million subscribers.

If we (forum users) had a direct channel of communication with HP, we could get our questions answered and they could build more hype for HP products. Not even knowing definite prices 2 weeks before a product is released is just unacceptable, and is pushing people away to other laptops which are already available.

/end rant

 

Thanks for the Info.. I will remember it.. But first I want to make sure which version of Mini Display port is implemented in the Envy 14, not all seem compatible...

 

The availability of Envy14 in the german HP shop has changed to
"Innerh. 14 Tage verfügbar"

Meaning a maximum of 14 days until it will be available.
I think yesterday it still said a maximum of 4 weeks.

 

German HP Store just informed me, that my Envy 14 will be ready for delivery by june 28th and should arrive 1-2 days later. Looks like I will recieve my new precious one in week 26. Horray!

 

I have exactly the same information..

 

A couple of weeks, you say.... As soon as you receive your Envy 14, if you guys could lock yourself away for a few days and test the laptop to breaking point for our collective benefit, that would be grand. Thanks.

 

I don't get this.The envy 14 is still an unknown entity on the UK website :/ We're being punished :_(

1300 euros is £1080. Who wants to bet it'll be more like £1300?

 

Acer does the same with its TimelineX series; everything is fair to save a few bucks, even crippling an otherwise powerful machine. Most consumers aren't the wiser (as strange as it may seem, the average Taiwanese knows less about computers than the average American) and still pay through the nose, "thanks" to a highly protective domestic market. Computers in Taiwan also tend to have slower HDs, CPUs, and GPUs than the "same" models sold (cheaper) in the States. >_<

 

HP = 19% of the notebook market worldwide.

Apple = 3% of the notebook market worldwide.

Still, your points are well taken. I think the move away from prerelease reviews is done on purpose. Why risk a bad review pre-release?

HP has actually done a nice job of hyping the 14. The unit has been recommended in nearly every thread on the "what should I buy" section for the past month. There is already a pent-up demand for the product from sophisticated users who get their information from forums like this. I think the TV ad is targeted at the general public who buy a computer more on looks than anything else.

I have been waiting for Acer to bring its 3820TG to the US for 6 months now. I have been impressed with the Envy's specs since they were released in May. After seeing the video, I must say that the 14 is a beautiful computer. I would like to hold on a bit longer as Acer promises that the 3820TG will be coming soon and should be in full release within a month. But, I can feel myself being drawn to the Envy and, if the prices are as good as I suspect they will be upon release, I know my resolve will weaken further and I may buy the Envy on impulse. I could do a lot worse.

Bronsky

 

I was still considering to buy an Acer 3820 or 4820 when HP anounced the Envy14. If Acer had been quicker in releasing the faster configurations I would have bought one by that time even with the medium quality display.

Now I'm not considering Acer anymore because I want a high quality display and the Envy14 seems to be the thing I was always looking for.

 

HP Uk are well and truly pi**ing me off... why do we always get the sh***y end of the stick.

Ridiculous. envy 17 only showed up on website like 3 weeks after released in america, and we can't even get it direct from HP so stupid. stupid stupid hp uk

 

Envy 17 is not even mentioned on German HP website. So I guess I need to be glad that I want an Envy 14 and not the 17 inch model.

 

I wish the uk did what germany did... i'd have pre-ordered the 14 as soon as it was available on the website.

Edit: Just found this 'The HP Envy4 has a UK release date of July with a starting price of £999 and the HP Envy17 is expected to be available in July with a price of £1299 and upwards.'

http://www.kreative-technology.co.uk/computing-news/hp-offers-up-host-of-new-laptops.html

 

July, but when? first week? mid-July? end of July? The fact that there is no actual date doesn't fill me with confidence. And their price policy still sucks. The mid-range config (520m / radiance screen) will still be £1300. Lame...

 

Are you going to add Envy 14 back into your sig line as "back up"?

But no, seriously it looks gorgeous. If the starting price really is $999 with that spec then it might be worth it. I'm getting drawn to this laptop as well, partially because of certainty of availability.

 

I have to be honest, I really don't like the swirly design all over the back and around the keyboard. Why can't it be just solid black?

 

I agree, but if they must keep a design of some sort, why not offer an option in design like maybe tribal designs or something. Multiple color options would also be nice...nothing off the wall but simple black, white, red, blue aluminum finish.

I've already made my decision on getting one but a little extra goodness can only help.

 

As I said on the Acer thread, the release of the Envy with no 3820TG in sight makes me "feel like Ulysses lashed to the mast of his ship without wax in his ears while sailing past the island of the Sirens. Pure torture."

I'll bet you never expected to see an Homeric reference to Classical Greek Literature and Epic Poetry in this thread.

Bronsky

 

I think that the main reason I am still considering this laptop is the screen selection. I'd get the 13" MBP if it had a higher resolution or an i5 I would consider it.

Right now, HP is positioning the Envy 14 as a 15" MPB competitor, but for much less money if current estimates turn out to be correct. I was looking to purchase a 15" MBP with the i5-540, the 7200 RPM upgrade, and the hi-res anti-glare screen for around $2200, but I could get the same specs in an Envy 14 for $800 less. That doesn't even take into account the better GPU and BCB deals.

 

If the envy 13 came with an i5, I would be all over it.
I was playing with the dm4 yesturday and the shape turned me off, baby got back.
For some reason I feel I am going to be dissapointed with the battery life of this machine, we'll see.

 

Bing Shopping

 

BCB is bing cash back.

it doesn't work with coupons but sometimes it jumps up to 25%.

it's going to end on july 31st (discontinued)

 

But at a minimum you should be able to get 10% BCB before end of July, because it's usually at that %. I wouldn't doubt if there is another 20 or 25% before end of BCB program. I figure I'll just wait until the BCB jumps up again and buy it then. At worse case I buy it July 31 and get 10% off. Who knows there might be another deal out there.

 

yer i agree, they're awesome, fit nicely on your laptop and the design work is nice. You can also make your own customized ones to fit your laptop perfectly, still got my pokemon wallpaper skin i made like 5 years ago still great condition btw

 

Yeah, if I don't like the pattern on the lid I will definitely get a skinit skin. Got one for my Vostro 1500 years ago and it worked out great.

 

Too bad they don't keep the Envy line up to date.. Its been almost a month and the Envy 17 option isn't up yet. Heck, the 13 is super old and isn't even available. Only the 15 is. I guess I have to live with the floral design for a while.

 

I had one of those! Battery issues and all.

 

I'm looking at the HP ENVY specifications and noticed something - What is the default display you get at the base spec with $999? I thought 1366x768 was standard and 1600x900 Radiance was optional. However if you look here

http://h20424.www2.hp.com/campaign/consumer_notebooks/ap/en/resources/HP-ENVY-brochure.pdf

There is no display option for Envy 14. The only thing that is listed is 1600x900 Radiance display. If you look at Envy 15, you can see that it comes with 1366x768 and then have 1080p as an option but Envy 14 just has Radiance display as default. Does this mean we get the Radiance display at $999?

 

doesnt mean anything but the fact that we all now know that the Australians get them config's stated. all with 1600x900 displays. The US site pdf still specifies the 1366x768 display so i think the US is definitely going to have at least 1 config with that screen

 

hey guys, just came across this model and am pretty excited after reading about 50 pages. What I was wondering, though, is that for this date we're all waiting for - I figure that's the date they'll be available to order. Do you forsee any specs or pricing info before that? Or is the website gonna be just flipped on and we'll have specs/pricing/ordering all in the same day? How does HP normally do stuff like this?

 

I've been reading for quite a while now, and I still don't get the HUGE difference between the 1600x900 and the 1366x768.

I mean sure it's a bit more screen real estate, but is that it?

Why are people considering not getting it if it comes with the 1366x768?

 

The screen resolution debate is very subjective. A lot of people have 1366x768 screens and find it to be an ideal resolution.

To my eye there's a big difference comparing the two. Even between 1366x769 and 1440x900 (my current screen) things appear much more crisp and it makes working with photoshop and large excel spreadsheets easier.

The difference between 1366 and 1600 is even bigger. Consider the total pixels:

1366x768 = 1,050,000 (rounded up)
1600x900 = 1,440,000

If you divide the two numbers you see your getting 37% more pixels on the same screen size - that's a lot of real estate! The end result will be a smoother image, more on the screen at once, less jaggies in games (although at the expense of some frames), etc.

 

Not only the resolution, but the brighter output

 

I like the higher res. but I'm worried if the brighter output will affect my photos (I will mostly be using this for photoshop). The color gam. may differ and may not be true screen caliberation?

If I was a gamer or just using it to watch movie, surf the web, etc it would be great, but I'm not sure how the HD Rad. screen will effect me. It might look good on an envy 14, but what about other screens?

 

Right

The 1600x900 sreen is supposed to have 350 cd brightness and large viewing angles and greater color range.
The standard 1366x768 screen is supposed to be in the range of 200-250 cd with standard viewing angles.

The greater color range could be positive for photo editing?

 

actually I think:

Radiance:

1600x900
410nit
82% sRGB color gamut

Normal:

1366x768
200 nit
60% sRGB color gamut



Big difference IMO.

 

Man this thing is really heavy for a 14 inch!
About the viewing angles, it is a TN panel, no? That would limit the viewing angles right there.
Does anyone think that the screen will trump the vaio Z's?

 

Weight is subjective. I have a dv3t which weighs ~5 pounds, and I think it's fine.