HP Envy 15? i7 meets 4830+15" screen!

A few websites did mention that the beats envy 15 would get a bit of an upgrade with graphics and sound vs. the standard edition, so maybe it's reserved for the higher tier models? No news yet, but we'll find out soon enough.

 

oh really? i thought it was just the color scheme and a set of headphones

 

I am pretty sure the 4860 will not be in the beats model but we will know soon

 

Anyone have an idea when envy 15 is available to order in UK?

 

Yeah, actually we do.

We've just been waiting 66 pages to post it, though.

Waiting for you to ask.


PS- I think that name is against forum rules... profanity?

 

Yeah although there are $300 headphones bundled in there, I would hope that they threw in some other upgrades since they usually do with limited edition models. Perhaps a i7 820, since I think they had 1 in a pre-production model they were showing off when it was announced. Wait's almost over at least.

 

That would be an awesome upgrade considering Dell charges $350 for that alone

 

It'd be great if they threw it in there, but I still have my doubts since im sure the $300 headphones and the professional software they threw in there are meant to make up for the price difference between it and the base model. But hey here's to hoping I'm wrong on that (and they add in a 4860).

 

Is there a significant boost in speed and power between the 720qm and the 820qm to justify the extra $350?

 

Well, the difference is 100mhz on 4 cores, 133-150 mhz when using only 2 cores and 200mhz when using 1 core AFAIK.

 

Sorry, I know the technical spec difference. I just meant are those specs worth the $350 premium dell wants for it and whatever HP will charge for it?

Btw, dont know if anyone saw it on the HP site or not, but there is a demo of the HP Envy 15 on their site. Doesnt tell us anything we dont already know but cool still.
http://shopping.hp.com/shopping/images/icons/envy_15/envy_15.html?jumpid=ex_r329_app_newfromhp

 

IMHO no; you would see much more performance benefit from swapping over to an SSD rather than forking out all that money for a tiny improvement in CPU speed.

 

that video has been up for a while

i still have a core 2 duo and its still fast. core i7 will be a huge upgrade for me and i cant imagine needing to upgrade from the 720. unless you are a serious power user

 

K bout the video. I first saw it last night and I havent seen it on this thread yet. Oh well!

I am a power user, but most of that is photoshop, programming and database work with some gaming. Sounds like the 720qm would be right up my alley!

Thanks. That is what I was looking for.

Can you recommend a good brand/model of SSD that wont break my bank but offering great performance? I know there are some very cheap brands out there that are just a waste of money while some SSDs like Intel's X25 is considered by some the best of the best while also costing the most

 

Well the Intel X25 is a great model but the issue most people have with it is the low GB/$ ratio that comes tacked on. I don't think the overall price is that bad in and of itself. It makes for a great boot drive and that 500GB drive in the envy could be used as the storage drive - quite the good combo. Intel does have some higher capacity models coming up, but of course they'll be pretty pricey. Just make sure to look for TRIM in whichever one you get so you hopefully won't experience performance degradation over time.

 

the thing about the i7's is the specs are all the same except clock speed. with the exception of the top end model which has a larger memory cache. So IMO intel gave plenty of reason to upgrade from old processors but not much reason to get the pricier models. but dont tell intel that. i think we're lucky didnt restrict the base model more just so people would get the pricier models. honestly i dont think you would even see a difference between the 720 and 820. maybe between the 720 and 920(or 950 i cant remember the model number) you might see some difference but at $900+ price difference its only worth it for a very small percentage of users

 

OCZ Agility.

 

They differ in speed, turbo-boost bins, cache and TDP. The higher TDP of the 920XM is important due to the way i7 self-throttles based on temp.

In addition the 920XM allows for overclocking beyond its rated speeds (it is up to the laptop manufacturer whether overclocking is allowed).

So its a bit simplistic to say they're all the same. Also you havent got the cache right, the 820QM and 920XM both have the same (8MB), it is the 720QM which is lower.

 

The G51J will support 8GB, don't worry.

For SSDs, if you're looking for performance for cost, Samsung can typically be had for the lowest (compared to Indilinx and Intel) and still perform as well.

 

well thats where your wrong all the models overclock themselves. its called turbo mode. the 720 can overclock itself up to 2.8GHZ if the temperatures allow it.

 

I think what he meant is that 920 can be overclocked beyond it's declared turbo mode, that is 3.2 Ghz.

 

New thread for your(adrianoh) question is here:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=425341

 

Quit spamming the board. You already have a thread in the "Which Notebook Should I Buy" forum, at the link below.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=425341

If you have a specific question about the HP Envy 15, the please feel free to come back and ask it.

EDIT: Thanks Kdawgca

 

'In addition the 920XM allows for overclocking beyond its rated speeds ...'

Try and keep up mate.

 

Does anyone know if the Envy 15 will be released in Canada anytime soon? All I can find is info about the US and UK releases.

Its not listed on the Canadian HP site either. From past instances, what is the normal time difference between US and Canadian release dates from HP?

 

We have yet to see how good the Envy 15 is at cooling so far. So what if it is constantly hot and the 720 won't overclock itself up to 2.8 GHZ?

If I remember right, some previews of it did give say some stuff about it being warm.

That's just a Doomsday scenario though, I hope the Envy 15 has decent/good cooling power. Good cooling + backlit keyboard + new trackpad drivers would make this a instant buy for me. For now I'll just wait and see what other people say...

 

I'm asking how the envy 15 compares with other mobile workstations.... The additional info is just to provide background for comparison.

Are you sure this is a spam? Please let me know....

 

Hi adrianoh.
Indeed if you are asking about what computer to get, I highly suggest the WNSIB Forum. People there will gladly help you and provide good info.

Thanks, and welcome to the NBR Forums

 

The correct terminology is that the 920 extreme processor has unlocked multiplier for easier overclocking (instead of manipulating the DMI/memory/uncore clocks).

 

what you said plus a black finish option and this will be an instant buy for me.

 

gimme mah backlit keys and non $500 premium black model then we have a winner for me

 

I would love to see a black aluminum laptop. I would pay more for it as well, though not too much more.

Backlit keys would be great too. With this expensive of a laptop, do you think HP will offer it as an option when you configure it? Would adding a backlit keyboard add any thickness to the Envy 15 and that why HP isnt making it standard?

 

backlit keyboards are just LEDs underneath the keys so no extra thickness considering even the Macbook Air has one, not really sure why it is not standard but I guess we could ask Sony the same question

 

Hmm...then I wonder why it isnt standard then. Do HP's other laptops offer backlit keyboards?

 

hp laptops have backlit keys (well the HDX series) as options for like $50 i dont see why they wouldnt offer that here

...although at this price it should be standard

 

The backlit keys might have interfered with the engineering. The fact they are trying the 'unibody aluminum' approach means they might not have been able to find a way to keep the keyboard sturdy with the backlights on it... who knows, but chances are they just probably didn't think it would be a deal breaker for someone getting so much performance and so much portability.

 

Actual one review or preview said it is not actually a unibody design just looks like the unibody macbook pros but I think it was what Texas said that they just didn't think it would be a dealbreaker and it would have required some more engineering

 

that purported night vision webcam has several interesting (mis)uses ...

 

Yeah, I would MUCH rather have a sturdy keyboard than a flimsy POS that can glow! Definitely not a deal breaker for me since I am a touch typist and want this laptop more for its portability and power than glowing keys.

Who knows, maybe that UV thing for the keyboard mentioned earlier really is kinda like a glow in the dark paint, to make up for the lack of a backlit keyboard!

 

I'm a bit skeptical about the glow in the dark keyboard idea since you'd think that's a feature they'd have advertised by now. But what can you do, a solid keyboard is better than a subpar one, which would be much more disappointing I think for a laptop at this price range.

 

If the keyboard is injected with some UV material then it will glow. But idk, Genryu is right, they should have advertised it more by now. So I doubt it is anything special. What I hate about advertising is that they are too much like movie previews, what you see is most often what you get. No unexpected "hey, didn't know that they added that in there"

 

found this

http://www.goodgearguide.com.au/article/322241/hp_envy_notebooks_will_make_your_workmates_jealous

not sure if they got some facts wrong or if the australian model is different.
but it says built in dvd burner so we know that is wrong. and i hope those prices are in australian dollars

that picture shows a matte black model and i dont see the beats logos so lets cross our fingers.

 

Nice find. Those black matte models look nice though I want to see them in better lighting conditions. I wonder if that is a black plastic or an aluminum material?

Not sure about their facts though. I can understand maybe the Australian model might be a bit different but to have a "built in DVD burner" while our model in the US didnt? lol Too much of a difference there! And I really think those prices are the Australia prices since everything we have read about the Envy 15 says they start around $1800

 

Hey guys,

First post!!!

I live and work here in Sydney Australia and work for a company called Harvey Norman (computer retailer).I can comfirm some details for you (suppliers arn't telling me anything more!!! I want one of these bad boys too!)

We have two models listed on our system:
Envy15-1015tx
core i7-720, 4gb ram, 500gb hd, 4830 1gb graphics -$2799 (aus dollars)
Envy 15-1021tx
core i7-820, 8gb ram, 500gb hd, 4830 1gb graphics - $3299 (aus dollars)

I'm fairly certain that they come with the external cd drive. No clue if the battery slice is included (really hope it is).

We have as well two listings for the envy 13 if anybody wants (didn't write down the details)

 

Hey really good first post mate! I am in Aussie myself. Will it be available on the same day as the Windows 7 release?

Any idea what the pricing is like for the Envy 13?

 

Welcome to NBR and thanks for the info! Seems like the only difference between the two models is double the RAM and the i7 820qm for an extra $500 AUS dollars.

Do the listings also include a color or what laser etching option they have? We have seen a silver, a glossy black (envy 15 beats edition) and now with the link that jwhit3367 provided a possible matte black option. We have also only seen that flowery design for laser etching.

 

I can get the prices of the Envy 13 when I am next at work (Sunday). From memory the envy 13 is more expensive than the envy 15.

The listings say nothing about colour or any etching patterns.

The extra $500 isn't that bad a price difference, considering the price of ddr3 ram. Personally, i'd be more than happy with the lower model and i'm a gamer!

 

oh and about availability, as long as the delivery is on time, they will be available from oct 22nd (release date of win 7).

 

I think there was some confusion at the launch event. The Australian supplier listing that I'm looking at states DVD, but I believe it refers to the external DVD unit included in the retail package rather than a built-in DVD burner. The models that I've seen are identical to the ones launched earlier in the US.

There is no black matte edition here, neither is the Limited Edition announced for the Australian market. There are 4 SKUs announced, 2 for the 13 and 2 for the 15. The 13 is indeed more expensive than the 15 and this is mainly due to the Envy 13 configurations having those 410 nit screens. The Australian retail configurations are all spec'ed to the max. All Envy's come with HP's 1 year consumer pick up and return warranty and will be supported by HP's consumer support services.

The prices on these are expected to be controlled more tightly as HP expects the premium to hold for a while (I can't even get a discount). No new shipments of the HDX has been committed, so we can expect that the Envy will replace that in the Australian market. The ETA that I'm looking at for the Envy is 24th October, so retailers like Harvey Norman and Diick Smiths should get them in the next 2 weeks.

 

Is it me or does the matte black picture look just like the other ones? Or is it because of my monitor that it comes out as just a poorly lighted standard color envy 15? I guess I'm just not very convinced that hp would actually launch a matte black version because it would likely cut into sales of their 'beats' special edition.