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    *HP Envy 15 (11XX / 12XX series) Owners Lounge!*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by wild05kid05, Jan 14, 2010.

  1. bubzers

    bubzers Notebook Evangelist

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    this thread should give you an idea of what the envy15 is capable of
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/453084-envy-15-2nd-gen-benchmarks.html
     
  2. idaWHALE

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    hey nice pic bubzers. funny :D
     
  3. mohanloke

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    I just bought an HP ENVY 15 with i7 core, running windows 7 Professional 64 bit OS. The laptop came with 4GB (2x2GB) RAM. But I bought 16GB (4x4gb) to upgrade my RAM. When I rebooted, the system only shows 8Gb in System information.

    But, when I reboot again and go into BIOS and come out and reboot then the system shows as: Installed RAM = 16GB (Usable 8GB), but on the nest boot it shows again 8GB only.

    My guess is that this some config issue and I triied with HP support spent several hours but nothing. The naswer they gave me was that I cannot upgrade it since original config came with only 4GB. Which I think is crap.

    Please some one help me what is wrong?

    Thanks in advance
     
  4. steberg

    steberg Notebook Evangelist

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    I remember back in April someone had the same problem, in the end he had to take the memory modules out and reinsert them with more force, after that it worked.
     
  5. Star Forge

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    Yeah or flip the RAM modules to the other slot and see.
     
  6. Petdoc1991

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    Should I buy the envy 15 even though it is discontinued? Any major problems to look for in refurbished? Thanks
     
  7. eight35pm

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    Wait, what reported problems?
     
  8. Texanman

    Texanman Master of all things Cake

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    [​IMG]problems???

    lol... but anyways theres no issues with envy 15
     
  9. Othi

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    Hi,

    Speaking of problems...

    I just woke up my Envy (i7-720QM, 8GB RAM, SSD+HDD, Glossy 1920x1080) from sleep to find a black screen. Not thinking much of it, I turned it off and rebooted. Now, the HP logo shows for about 0.1 seconds, then the screen goes black again, then the bootloader shows again for about 0.1 seconds until the screen goes black, then the Windows logo about two seconds, then the login screen for 0.1 seconds.
    The backlight stays on the entire time.

    HP support basically told me to gtfo because it's 6pm, but since I have exams coming up and my notes are on that laptop, I turn to you wise people.

    Any idea what this could be? Fixes?

    Edit:
    Works over HDMI. So I guess the display is broken.
    Faulty graphics card, broken display and the worst wireless connection in history - this is one quality laptop.
     
  10. eight35pm

    eight35pm Notebook Evangelist

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    Well I was wondering if there were reported problems, because I have a problem myself.

    I still can't get Team Fortress 2 to run correctly. I've updated drivers, uninstalling the old ones, safe mode, driver sweeper, all that. Still runs at 10 fps at any settings and any resolutions. So yeah, 10 fps on high, 10 fps on low, exactly the same.

    Some other games run worse than normal as well, although none like TF2. And some other games run fine, or maybe a tiny bit worse than they should.

    I don't remember exactly but I got around 7950 on 3dMark06 without overclocking, and I've run FurMark for hours without crashing, so there doesn't seem to be a problem with the graphics card itself.
     
  11. Texanman

    Texanman Master of all things Cake

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    did you try a clean install? or are you still running on hp's install
     
  12. eight35pm

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    Clean install, although I don't know if I did it quite right. I still had to install HP's graphics driver before I could go to ATI 10.8 (at the time), and still need HP's driver before going to 10.12. I can uninstall all previous driver versions but must leave one behind.
     
  13. Texanman

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    you dont need hps driver for video... you can go straight to 10.12
     
  14. eight35pm

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    You may not need them, but I do, that's why I think mine is messed up. If I try to go straight to 10.12 it says "no compatible display adapters found" or something.
     
  15. havokxz

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    Does anyone know if its possible to get any alternative BIOS of some sort? I am thinking about a BIOS mod that has APM 1.2 available, as our Insyde F.2B is not capable of it.
     
  16. Pitabred

    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    Insyde is not a BIOS, it is an EFI. You will not get APM support because that's a 10 year old specification that is deprecated and has been replaced by newer standards. If you have a program that needs APM, get a new program.
     
  17. Petdoc1991

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    Im going to order mine very soon cant wait! Hop it is worth it! :)
     
  18. havokxz

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    I didnt realize its that old, well the only thing i really want to do is to allow my laptop to wake up on a certain time, is there a way for the envy to do that with out the hardware having ACPI?
     
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    I ordered mine yeah!
     
  20. martin96

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    i have two questions cuz im deciding between this and the envy 14. i have a dell inspiron 15 and the its really thick and has less than 1 hour of battery when i have the brightness down and everything. i learned that if i go to the power settings and turn down the max processor state to about 25 percent i get an increase of about 15 minutes, mind you thats an increase of 33%!! what kind of gaming performance does this laptop get at games such as black ops, nfs hot pursuit, and starcraft at a 1920x1080 resolution? also if i wanted to squeeze out as much battery life on the regular battery how many hours could i get? and what if i added a slice battery?? thanks
     
  21. Star Forge

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    Black Ops and NFS will run at least 30-40 FPS on 108op but not SC 2 on Ultra (20-ish). Battery life if you get an Arrandale i5 is around 2 hours for me. It is significantly worse with the Quad i7's. With slice, it is around 5-6 hours total on the i5.
     
  22. Texanman

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    I just got the new nfs.. If you run the game with forced aa and shadows on low i am getting about 40-43 fps using fraps
     
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    Pitabred Linux geek con rat flail!

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    If you want your machine to wake up, why not just put it to sleep instead of turning it off? You'll have to have it plugged in anyway, and that way you can just set up a scheduled task to wake it up. It will use barely any power (as in, I've left mine asleep for a week and it still had some 80% or so of the battery left).
     
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    Does anyone know if our e15's are compatible with the new sandy bridge processors?
     
  25. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    nope, different sockets, chipsets

    but we do have news that the 6830 will be apparently released, the bad news is that its just going to be a rebranded 5830, but nonetheless, there is a flickering light at the end of the tunnel for people who dream about an envy 15 again with some SB goodnees
     
  26. Star Forge

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    The 6830M looks pathetic. It is an EXACT carbon copy of the 5830M. I'd rather have the GDDR 5-based 5730M refresh instead.
     
  27. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    indeed isnt it? lets just hope that it comes with support for Gddr5 this time, and that hp actually use it.

    If it comes.. then we would have a 5870 in the envy 15

    and lets also hope that they dont make the skimp decision to add a dvd drive to it... if they do... its a bye bye to a 6830 and welcome to something worse
     
  28. Star Forge

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    It won't. The 6830M as I said is an EXACT carbon copy of what we have now and the 5830M is purposely set with GDDR 3. Since the Envy 17 is now announced to run with a 6850M (5850M rebadge), I doubt the 15, if reinstated will get the GDDR 5 treatment in this GPU level.
     
  29. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    you are probably right, but it appears that the 6800 series is ''only'' going to support GDDR5, according of course to the AMD site about the series.... which in turn is as reliable as my intestines with their irritable bowel syndrome.

    I prefer the form factor of the 14'' and 13'' laptops, but the envy 15 was such a piece of beauty that its hard for me to not fall in love, aside the bad mobility that the form factor offers me
     
  30. Star Forge

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    Don't get me wrong, the 5830M is a fantastic card in terms of efficiency, mobility and gaming power. If OC'ed and played around, it can rival the GTX 260M. However, it is disappointing that the future 15 won't have a GDDR 5 option if they are to stick with the 6830M, which in this era of performance laptops, should. Either that, or give us 256 bit GDDR 3. It is just annoying that they are doing nothing in the GPU department that makes the new E15 any better than the current E15 except for SB, if a new E15 is in the works, which I think they aren't.

    The 6830M is just pathetic. Even rebadged cards often gets a die shrink or slight modifications in the next iteration but ATI is just doing NOTHING to the 6830M except naming it so. Why just keep it 5830M? At least give us more bandwidth for it or something.
     
  31. Karamazovmm

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    thats the idea for it to only appear in their site with GDDR5, to give us more bandwidth, or hop whichever comes first
     
  32. Star Forge

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    According to Notebookcheck, the 6830M is GDDR 3 only @ 500/800 stock. :confused:
     
  33. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    The info I saw is from the AMD site, there is only one kind of memory there in the specs. This is the least that they can do, even now the 5650 will support GDDR5, which was something only the 5700 family could, and not all of them
     
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    Huh, will either way, I am keeping my Envy till "hopefully" Ivy Bridge or Haswell so by then, I hope HP decides to equal the standard with their competitors with an uncrippled matching GPU. If not, I am going Alienware or Elitebook. :p

    Still, the rumors on Notebookcheck states that the 6830M isn't getting any new treatment except a rename quite literally.

    PS: There is the slight chance that I can acquire funds quick enough to be a new laptop if I wanted to. :p
     
  35. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    then you could take a look at the sony SA, the design is going to give some the creeps and some will love it, I like it.

    It was all that I said, lets just hope that it comes with the GDDR5, if not, well at least you have the good old envy 15.
     
  36. Petdoc1991

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    Hi I am really enjoying my envy 15 but having a problem with the wlam suddenly disconnecting. What do i do? thanks
     
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    Speaking of drivers Do you have audio stuttering issues here is the fix it took me a week to figure out.

    ATI downgraded mobile drivers AGAIN to 10.11 so downgrade if your running 10.12. 10.12 had big HDMI out issues FYI

    Update Intel chipset drivers be sure to do a -overall switch to force drivers to install. Do a google search if I lost you here but very important.

    If you use a momentus xt hybrid drive do a firmware upgrade. These drives can be defragged btw. Backup your important files first

    Never let MS Windows update your device drivers can cause big headaches.

    Cut of indexing in windows it only speads up searching but we all know MS can't search and it constantly access hard drives reducing I/O and possible audio stuttering.

    Just a few things I learned while working with the envy 15 gen2.

    Check this link for the Envy 15 driver updates very usefull.
     
  39. Star Forge

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    I never had audio stuttering and I used the latest IDT Driver HP Released. Also, I never used HDMI when I used Catalyst 10.12, but I did and it worked well with Catalyst 10.10. Unfortunately I no longer own the Envy 15, so I can't double verify the problems you are having.

    People are saying that Catalyst 10.10 with Hotfix E is currently the best ATI Mobile Driver and the latest IDT Audio Codec really helps to balance the sound coming out of the laptop. I hope that can help you in solving your possible issues.
     
  40. PipeLn

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    The IDT driver in my experience is dated and didnt have any effect no matter which version I used but I tell you I went from hard crashes in games and audio stuttering in everything about 4 times an hour to none. I know lots of people have had this issue and I believe its a Intel chipset issue due to the number of Dell Studio users having all the same issues. I just hope to save a few people the issues I had last week that made me about loose it.

    BTW HP needs new monkeys putting on thermal paste in their factories mine got here with almost no thermal grease and was overheating while idling in windows. I think 80C playing Bejewelled is a bit much now its 68C after artic silver.
     
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    I Arctic Silver 5'ed my Envy 15 pretty early on during my ownership and I never had temps surpass 70C on an overclock for the GPU and never over 71C on the CPU (i5-540M). My idle temperatures were like 42C for the GPU and 38C for the CPU.
     
  42. PipeLn

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    I have the I7 720 which explains the temp differences. Wish mine were that low.
     
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    People recommended the i5 greatly for the E15. The i7 was battery eater and a heat magnet.
     
  44. johnnobts

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    yep, i had the 840qm and the 540m and strongly recommend an i5. gaming performance increase with the 840 was nearly inconsequential (talking a FPS boost of maybe 2-3 fps in games like Dirt 2)
     
  45. Jshay

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    I just got my Envy 15 today from someone on a different forum and so far I'm loving it! The only issue I have with it is the trackpad and how my palm keeps touching it so I've turned off the tap-click feature.

    I got it with:
    i5 580M
    ATi 5830M
    8GB OCZ 1333mhz Ram
    Intel X-25M 80GB SSD
    15in Screen (1920x1080 resolution)

    Hope it lasts me a good while :)
     
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    Pictures please? Does it look super sexy?

    Also what is the battery life you are getting?
     
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    -----------------

    For 18" drive you need to have a different bracket than the 2.5" drive. I have replaced a 350GB 7200RPM 2.5" drive with a 256GB SSD 2.5". It is very simple to do.
     
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    Did you get that one from a guy at LA who posted it at Hard[OCP]?
     
  49. lastdon

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    So

    I've had this laptop less than a year - way less.


    and today it went nutty on me.


    - Issue


    I press power button, screen remains black, unit shuts off by itself, and restarts, but screen remains black, and this happens over and over.

    So i hard power it down,

    then it does the cycle 2 more times , it starts up, and freezes at the HP logo

    :(

    removed the HDD put a new one in, same issue
    booted from my usb linux drive, same thing

    removed the memory, and tried it from another laptop i have same issue


    ANY ideas?
     
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    Fans obstructed? Did it overheat? I hope you get some help from HP but since they are phased out maybe a cheap mobo

    Ati graphics driver upgrade recent?

    more info needed but there are several sensors and things that can keep it from booting.
     
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