*HP Envy 15 Owners Lounge! PART 1*

well for that turn around time, I sure am >_<

 

Hey guys I've been following this lengthy thread for a hundred or so pages and have an i5 envy due to ship out tomorrow and another due the 28th (better coupon + avoided tax). Plan to play around with the first machine while I wait for the second one to replace it. Praying for no delays.
I remember somewhere in this thread talk about a esata cable that used the power from the usb to power the drive. It can be bought HERE if your interested but seems way over priced for a simple cord. Anyone have an idea how to make one of these or know where to find it cheaper?

 

Here is a bunch of screen prints. I hope I ran them correctly. Not sure how to get it into High Performance mode. And I haven't installed and powerful apps as of yet.

HW Monitor


Cupid w Battery


Cupid w Power


GPUz screen Print

 

So you are still capped at 900mhz on battery...

 

whoa 2 ghz thats i7-920qm territory!

 

seems that way but i dont think he ran prime95 to stress the system

 

Thanks for the screenies!

Same x9 multiplier prob, but o well for now...

GDDR3 on the vidcard sounds fine to me...

Things seem similar so far.

3Dmark06 that thing!

 

GPUz screen Print
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Glad to see its shipping with official Catalyst 9.11 drivers, those were actually OK.

 

Appreciate the effort! Does the main board tab show anything interesting? Is it still using 55 main board? Not that I would know the difference...

Also, have you personally noticed anything else different between this one and the previous other than "no squeaks" near the mousepad?

 

Maybe it's not a problem per se, it's a design to make them more mobile computer friendly?

 

the new viao F series do the same thing, maybe its a lock on the cpu by intel? regardless i'd like to see it go lower and higher, but mainly lower on the battery...especially with the IOS is 900mhz really necessary?

 

I think you're right. Like it or not, it is designed that way and from what we have learned the Sony i7 F Series is the same way.

I also know from reading the Dell XPS forums that the XPS16 only comes with a 90W power supply which limits performance when plugged in (IMHO much worse scenario).

Maybe I don't care because my laptop is plugged in 99% of the time anyway.

 

Thanks for the info!

I'm sure hoping that the i5 verisons will get the same GPU GDDR3 and clock spd that the i7's appear to have.

 

Just looked at those screenshots again. It looks like even with the new BIOS HP has not fixed the CPU idle state power issue, still shows 15.34W min.

 

Exactly why I returned my Dell XPS1645. I knew the Envy had this issue on battery, but that is much better than on AC since I am nearly always on AC power.

 

@diablonyc2

If you get a chance I am very curious to see what the GPU shows for Core / Mem speeds when unplugged. According to HP it will automatically 'throttle' the GPU when unplugged to help battery life.

Thanks

 

The 4830 did this properly, i hope that it is equal or better on the new 5830.

I suspect it will if it follows suit with the 4000 vs 5000 series desktop cards. My desktop 5770 (aka "mobility 5870") idles at half the wattage as my previous 4770 did.

 

I really hope so also since they did not impliment the switchable graphics (IGP) option imbedded in the i5 series chipset. I'm hoping for a significant battery life improvement over the i7 but without using the IGP option I am not sure if this is possible...

 

Can someone tell me if this is normal:

After playing Mass Effect for about an hour and a half on full settings, I realized that DIMM #2 and #4 were registering 200C+ temperatures. The third was at about 100C. The laptop did get very hot, but I wanted to test the system to see how far it could go. The game played flawlessly, but this heat is excessive.

 

I was debating on laptops to buy and decided on the HP Envy 15 1060-ea, am so exicted should be here in the morning or wed, i cant sleep

 

They raised the BEAT base from 1799 to 2099! Dang.

 

I think it is being misread by the software, I highly doubt any ram will generate or heatsoak to anywhere near even 100c. If it didnt freeze, you are fine.

 

200c= my pants are on fire!

pants on fire, pants on fire, lookin' like a fool with my pants on fire...

 

Possibly, but this has not been confirmed with a hands on yet... i still am crossing my fingers for all who ordered the i5.

 

lol, saw they raised the price for the envy beats... dell just lowered their starting price for the alienware m15x to $1199, but that's with a Core i3 and a 240m GFX card...

 

Congrats! and welcome to the forum. Most of us are waiting on delivery of the new 5830 version also. A lot of OCD going around, it seems to be contagious.

 

Me too...

 

I think you may be right. It was hibernating for the last couple minutes and the temperature is the same, so it must be misread. Considering it did not shut off, I'm fine.

 

It's not really excessive given this hardware in this little space. There's just no getting around the fact that you ought to get a cooler if you're going to be gaming.

 

uh, 200 degrees celsius is nearly 400 degrees Farenheight, I could bake brownies on my laptop if that's the case. I'm pretty sure its not that hot.

 

thank you JJB been on the ASUS part here before, decided not to buy another ASUS or keep the replacement they sent me, and decided to get the HP Envy, hope all those waiting wont be for long

 

well my envy i5 officially did not ship on the 18th (as estimated). I contacted HP and spoke with several people who informed me that HP had no known information regarding delays on the new Envy shipments, but if there is going to be some sort of problem that they would know at 7amEST when they receive their updated shipping and delay reports. I'll cross my fingers till then.

 

I just made my order but by mistake I just pick the 6 cell battery and didnt choose the extra 9 cell battery...
How much battery life should I expect with the 6 cell? (I'm getting with the core i5 so maybe I will get some extra minutes with it but not much I guess)
And there its something that I can do to pick up the extra 9 cell battery? Should I call HP and ask it if I can add that too... I dont think that for just adding a battery will delay it more... right...??

 

If it's true that the i5 does not use the on-die integrated graphics processing made available by intel, I might expect 2-2.5 hours on a 6-cell battery charge, depending on whether or not you went with an SSD. Of course, you'll find out for sure in a couple days when people start receiving their units.

As for tacking on an extra 9-cell battery to your order, I would make the adjustment immediately over the phone to avoid having to cancel and re-order the unit, further delaying shipment.

 

I have the Sony F Series that does the exact same throttling thing when on battery power. Basically it means you have a very slow laptop when using battery power, and there's no way around it.

It doesn't bother me too much since I use mine plugged in 99% of the time, but it's an annoyance for sure.

Do all Core i7 PC's do this, or only the HP envy and the Sony F Series?

 

Once an order is in, I don't think HP can change it.

What happened to me was they offered $100 dollars back for me to keep the computer as is which I gladly accepted. ^^;;

Your mileage may vary though.

 

They normally won't let you change an order once placed (unless it is within a few hours) if you place a new order you will have to pay for it again and wait for credit on the first order.

I would suggest calling HP and see if you can place an order for just the 9 cell battery and see if they can get give you the lower price offered when you buy it with the computer...this way it won't affect delivery schedule for your computer.

 

Cannot wait for you all i5 owners to get it. Two things I'm hoping for:

-integrated graphics
-more flexible screen hinge. 110 degrees of freedom is just way to small. Has anyone found a way to fix this?

 

people are quoting 3 hrs with 600 cold cranking amps and 4.5 hrs with 800 CCA. the nice thing is you barely know the laptop is there becaue the battery pack is 40 lbs

 

Battery life will be around 2 - 3 hours with the i5 with light use using the 6 cell. I reckon around the 2 hour mark with the i7. We'll find out very shortly off all these new owners with some real life benches.

 

You may want to click through the tabs on CPUID to view the detailed RAM info. I'm wondering if only 1 stick of ram is 1066 or are all 3 sticks the same. CPUID should display all that info in detail.

 

Desktops i7 are triple-channel in LGA 1366 packages but the newer Core i7s are only dual channel which is what the mobile CPUs are based upon.

If the 1066 are low latency than the differential of speed is much less and depending on application makes no difference but one does feel shortchanged.

 

I am guessing that if the integrated graphics chip on the i5 isn't usable. With wifi on, bluetooth off, minimum brightness, I think we're looking at 2.75-3 hours since the original Envy 15's got around 2.25 on those settings. With wifi off as well, I think it'll bust the 3.25-3.5 hr mark idling (which would be taking notes in class for me...). Not sure though, I'm eager to find out. If the integrated graphics chip works, we're talking about a serious boost in battery life since that's an entire 24W less energy being used. If so, we're looking at closer to 4 hours with wifi on and 4.5 with wifi off (just guesses...), and the slice would more than double these run times. Mmmm... delicious. **Quad crosses his fingers...

I humbly request that the first person who gets their Envy 15 with i5 run 3dmark06 and then do a battery test immediately afterwards.

 

Wow, 26 total posts since 2005, then two in a row. It's as if I just saw a shooting comet, you crazy stealth-man, you.

 

Mine still says:

Order in production
(Estimated to ship on January 18, 2010)

as of 5.45am....

 

Call hp and verify if it did ship indeed.

 

The XPS16 does not have this problem.

 

Are you positively sure? I hope you are, as I REALLY want to see this LFM issue taken care of by HP.

Part of my reason for getting my Envy is to do imaging software demos on battery, naturally full performance is critical. As it is, my imaging software (which fully loads all 8 virtual cores) runs faster on battery on my 2007 Thinkpad T61 than on the Envy.

(The other reason I wanted a quadcode Core i7 is virtualization - here the Ci7 really shines - three dualcore VMs running in parallel and the Envy doesn't even break a sweat.)

 

http://www.intel.com/products/processor/corei7/mobile/specifications.htm

There could be more to it than that. as suggested, cpuid/cpuz needs to be run. the clock rate, clock multiplier, bus speed, and ram speed need to be verified against manufacturer's spec.

if you are not getting the top bus speed advertised, you are losing out on bandwidth between subsystems for all memory transfers. those typically turn out to be around 5-6% per bus jump while holding cpu clock speed constant.

 

I want to see so Benchmarksss like PCmark06 or PCvantagee pleaseee!!