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    HP Envy 17 - coming to the US in May 2010

    Discussion in 'HP' started by charlie45, Apr 17, 2010.

  1. nohm

    nohm Notebook Consultant

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    @PhatCat

    Go back and read the original posts and think about what you're writing- you're using terminology that isn't interchangeable with each other (i.e. speaker ports = audio ports = audio (input) jacks; speakers = speakers). Even mobilezila, who originally posted "speaker ports" in the beginning, corrected himself by using "speaker" instead on his second post..

    Anyway.

    This is my first time actually anticipating for something to show up on the HP online store. Does anyone know if HP updates their store during the midnight of their proposed release date, or do they slowly do it in the morning? I know they'll have it up by noon for sure, but the wait is killing me :)

    I'm also wondering if they'll offer configuration right off the bat, or just sell presets till later (didn't they do that with the 1st gen ENVY15, where they strictly sold in presets, and then they offered configuration with the 2nd gen? Maybe it was just a US thing..).
     
  2. jaxxy

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    Yes I could not configure anything at all. I wanted to swap out the DVDROM for a BDROM but no go =[
     
  3. online_gamer

    online_gamer Newbie

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    I also live in Australia and am just qurious how much you paid and where you ordered it from.
     
  4. jaxxy

    jaxxy Notebook Consultant

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    I got the 17" 1002Tx model for a tad over AUD$1400 delivered as I know someone who works there :)
     
  5. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    Oh wow, very nice. When you get it make sure to inform us. Actually I think I'm going to start the owners lounge now. Be back in a sec.
     
  6. jaxxy

    jaxxy Notebook Consultant

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    For sure I will. My current PC can't even play 480p videos on youtube lol so this is a big step up :) I need a list of games that are super high in graphics to test this sucker when I get it :)
     
  7. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    Hmmm, I find that extremely hard to believe.

    I just called up and asked about retail prices:

    Envy 17 TX1001 - 2699$ - AUS$
    Envy 17 TX1002 - 3399$ - AUS$

    So did someone give you 58% discount on the 17" 1002TX?

    And if they did, pelase PM me, I want one at that price as well!!!
     
  9. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    Oh and it's up on the website.
     
  10. Koshinn

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    what is up on what website?
     
  11. L3vi

    L3vi Merry Christmas!

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    lol, sorry koshinn, the Envy 17 was up, but it was taken down lol. Check the Owner's lounge.
     
  12. jaxxy

    jaxxy Notebook Consultant

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    I did too, and what's even more weird is that the 15" model was more expensive! The 15" 1113TX model only has 640MB HDD (5400rpm) not 2x500MB (7200rpm), only 2in1 card reader and no mini-display port...it does weigh 1.1kg less though.
     
  13. StefanHT

    StefanHT Notebook Geek

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    The configurator for Envy 17 is working at the US Store:

    US Base Model for 1399$
    - CPU: i5-430M
    - RAM: 4 GB (2x2)
    - HDD: 1x 320 GB - 7200rpm
    - HD+ Display (1600x900)
    - DVD multidrive

    Upgrade Options:
    - blu-ray = +150$
    - Full HD display (1920x1080) = +100$

    RAM
    - 4 GB (1x4) = +25$
    - 6 GB (1x2+1x4) = +200$
    - 8 GB (2x4) = +400$

    CPU
    - i5-520M = +100$
    - i5-540M = +150$
    - i7-720M = +300$
    - i5-820M = +550$

    HDD options (in exchange for the standard 320 GB HDD)
    - 1x 500 GB = +50$
    - 2x 320 GB = +125$
    - 2x 500 GB = +225$
    - 1x SSD 160 GB = +375$
    - 1x SSD 160 GB + 1x 500 GB HDD = +475$

    no option for 1x or 2x 1TB HDD yet.
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    This would be a nice configuration for 2299$ ...
    i5-540M, 4 GB RAM (1x4), SSD 160GB + HDD 500GB, Full HD display, blu-ray
     
  14. Koshinn

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    Funny, that's the EXACT same config I was going for.
     
  15. PhatCat

    PhatCat Notebook Consultant

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    My final comment on this matter.

    In audio writing, a port on a speaker is an opening from which sound emerges. For example, a ported speaker has such an opening in the enclosure, whereas an acoustic suspension design does not. The vents on the front of the Envy 17 are openings from which sound emerges.
     
  16. PhatCat

    PhatCat Notebook Consultant

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    Just ordered the following config thru Bing Cashback, which is currently 25% for HP.

    HP ENVY 17 customizable Notebook PC

    * • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    * • Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-720QM Quad Core processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.8 GHz
    * • 4GB DDR3 System Memory (1 Dimm)
    * • 660GB 7200RPM SATA Dual Hard Drive (SSD 160GB + 500GB 7200RPM)
    * • 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5850 Graphics
    * • 17.3" diagonal Full HD HP Ultra BrightView Infinity LED Display (1920x1080)
    * • Blu-ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
    * • HP TrueVision HD Webcam
    * • Intel Wireless-N Card with Bluetooth
    * • Full-size island-style backlit keyboard
    * • 50% OFF! One 6 Cell (standard) and One 9 Cell (over-sized) Lithium Ion Battery
    * • 50% OFF! HP Pavilion additional 120W AC Adapter
    * • No Productivity Software
    * • HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

    Estimated build date: June 1, 2010 This item ships free
    $2,569.98
     
  17. Koshinn

    Koshinn Notebook Deity

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    How do you know the bing cashback worked? Was there any indication it was working before you submitted the order?
     
  18. Philthy84

    Philthy84 Notebook Consultant

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    Yes I would like to know as well. I'm ready to place my order right now if I'm guaranteed to get 25% back.
     
  19. PhatCat

    PhatCat Notebook Consultant

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    No indication on the order itself but that's usual. I went to the Bing site, signed in, searched for "HP Laptop" and then followed the link that popped up a window saying an order in the session would be eligible for 25% CB. Now I'm in the next waiting game: watching for confirm from Bing, which sometimes takes up to a couple of days. If it doesn't come thru, I'll cancel and reorder.

    For Bing CB to work, you must follow instructions precisely. In particular, you cannot apply any coupon, EPP discount, student discount, etc.
     
  20. Philthy84

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    That's all I needed too know, thanks. Placing my order now!
     
  21. Koshinn

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    Submitted order... we'll see if this works out as I used billmelater (0% interest for 6 months? sounds good to me.)
     
  22. Koshinn

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    Actually about a minute ago I got an email from bing cashback notifying me of a $575 cash back from HP. It gives cash back only on the price of the computer, not tax + shipping. So $575 from a $2299.99 laptop is pretty amazing.
     
  23. PhatCat

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    Also got my confirm for 642.50. Yeehaw!
     
  24. PhatCat

    PhatCat Notebook Consultant

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    For anyone interested in using Bing CashBack, I just posted detailed instructions on the Envy 17 Owner's Lounge thread.
     
  25. Philthy84

    Philthy84 Notebook Consultant

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    Does the warranty get discounted with the total price?
     
  26. Koshinn

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    No idea, but your current Sager seems to be better than an Envy17 anyway?
     
  27. Philthy84

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    I don't have it yet. It's actually suppose to be delivered today but the Envy 17 seems like its perfect for me.
     
  28. PhatCat

    PhatCat Notebook Consultant

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    The CB % applies to your entire order before tax and shipping.
     
  29. Philthy84

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    Placed my order.

    HP ENVY 17 customizable Notebook PC

    * • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    * • Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-820QM Quad Core Processor (1.73GHz, 8MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to3.06GHz
    * • 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    * • 160GB (Solid State Drive Flash Module)
    * • 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5850 Graphics
    * • 17.3" diagonal Full HD HP Ultra BrightView Infinity LED Display (1920x1080)
    * • Blu-ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
    * • HP TrueVision HD Webcam
    * • Intel Wireless-N Card with Bluetooth
    * • Full-size island-style backlit keyboard
    * • 50% OFF! One 6 Cell (standard) and One 9 Cell (over-sized) Lithium Ion Battery
    * • No Productivity Software
    * • HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope



    And got my Bing Cash Back e-mail for $762.50 from the computer and another $75 from the 2 year accidental damage warranty. Time to change my sig I guess.
     
  30. Daruki

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    I thought it could support up to 2TB hard drive, but I only see up to 1 TB on the site. What's up with that?
     
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    Yay! Placed my order too! :D
     
  32. Etahgnimusnoc

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    Darkui I believe someone mentioned it being able to use 11.5 drives to make 2tb.

    I also have a question that I dont know if its been answered. The i7 board comes with 4 available dimms, correct?
     
  33. URPradhan

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    What you paid for your configuration, so that you got $762.50 + $75 = $837.50 Bing Cash Back !!!!!!! :eek:
     
  34. Philthy84

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    $3349.50 price with 2 year accidental warranty. So I'm really only paying just little over $2500. Which is the same price I paid for the Sager NP8690 I ordered but now I have to return. Would have never ordered one if not for the 25% cash back discount.
     
  35. Koshinn

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    No, 2 dimms regardless of processor, unlike the Envy15.
     
  36. Etahgnimusnoc

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    And why is this.... That really kills my dreams of stupid amounts of RAM. One more question the Beats 15 doesnt have a backlit keyboard does it?
     
  37. Koshinn

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    not right now, no it does not.
     
  38. URPradhan

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    Where it is mentioned about 25% cashback ? I can see only 10% cash back from Bing shopping for HPDirect.
     
  39. PhatCat

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    I have posted detailed Bing instructions on the Envy 17 owner's lounge. The short answer to your question is that you should do a search for "HP laptop" once in Bing and follow the Bing Cashback link on the first result. A window will pop that says 25% ...
     
  40. Koshinn

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    Anyone notice this on the US website? lol:
    "An optional 1080p Full HD screen with super sharp 1600 x 900 resolution and 72% color gamut"
     
  41. PhatCat

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    For anyone who is a costco member, they currently have a screaming deal on a 2 yr HP laptop accidental protection warranty w/ Lojack for $99. Yes, it's real HP service and no that's not a misprint. It is send-in service reather than in-home, but users on the Envy 15 forum report that any non-trivial service on the Envy 15 requires shipping it back to HP anyway.

    I got this recently for an HP dv8t I purcahsed for someone else. I have read all the fine print three times and can find nothing that excludes the Envy line. I am buying it for my Envy 17 and will report on the experience once I receive the machine.

    Costco - HP 2-Year Accidental Damage Protection and Computrace LoJack for Laptops
     
  42. URPradhan

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    !!! I was trying with Firefox+AdBlockplus, and then tried with IE and its working. Yeh ! I can see the 25% BCB :p
     
  43. Jaerb4

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    Holy crap, this is cheaper than I expected.

    I was on the verge of getting the Envy 15 but now I have no clue, because they're the exact same price. :O

    i5 430
    500GB hdd
    1080p display
    Battery slice
    External dvd drive

    $1625

    The exact same config is the same price on the 17.

    It's trading weight and size for the 5850, extra hdd bay (so I can eventually put in a SSD boot drive), and backlit keyboard. Just reading that, the Envy 17 is definitely ahead, but weight and size are definitely issues for me. I have a 6860FX right now, and it's way too big. It's 9.25 lbs and too bulky to be comfortable on my lap (which I like to do.) The biggest advantage for the Envy 17 is the extra hdd bay, so it'd be easy to get the SSD in the future. I guess I could do it on the 15 too, but I'd need a 1.8" hdd, plus there's some problems with the 15's SATA controller.

    Ah, the 17's extra battery is just one that sticks out the back, not a slice. EDIT: Or is it? Can't tell from the description.
     
  44. dkeene

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    Why do you think you can't get the 1920x1200 WUXGA screen on this? It would be a perfect clone of MBP 17. I find this 1920x1080 to squat; I prefer a more squarish display. Why the $*#)($*# can no one make a MBP 17 that is MADE for windows?
     
  45. smilepak

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    DAMN IT! The 17" comes with slot drive?! Lol! Man. Still like my 15" size more, but slot drive would've been nice.
     
  46. ajreynol

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    Will be deciding in the next 2 hours which direction I'll toss my money.

    the HP comes out to being ~$250 less than the MacBook Pro I was looking at, with a few decided advantages for me:

    -dedicated 2nd HDD bay for *natural* dual HDD's without giving up the DVD drive
    -more powerful GPU
    -in-home support
    -should run cooler
    -less expensive

    but a few drawbacks as well:
    -unknown screen quality (still my most important factor)
    -unknown build quality
    -heavier
    -less awesome touchpad


    hmmm. I was waiting for Bing Cashback to come back to eBay, so today is the day for me.

    Maybe I'll buy both machines and return the one I don't want. Timing is crucial with the eBay sale...and my custom Envy wouldn't even ship for another 2 weeks.

    Pulling the trigger is entertaining.
     
  47. dkeene

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    I am having this same problem. I want to get a MBP 17 WUXGA, this envy only has a 1920x1080 screen, bigger than MBP. I only want to run windows, not mac. What are your thougths
    Doug
     
  48. ajreynol

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    get the Envy and don't look back.

    seriously. no reason to get the MBP if you don't want to run OSX primarially. you lose the MBP's real advantages (no multitouch, mediocre battery life and non replaceable!). the only things left are the looks and the screen resolution. neither of which are worth $400+ by themselves.

    you'll be a happy man with this Envy. with the MBP, you'll be an irritated man with a pretty computer. be happy. :)

    also:
    has anyone ordered yet???
     
  49. sasjegbruv123

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    a bunch of people who've ordered have put their specs, views, prices etc on the hp envy 17 owners lounge. :)
     
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    True, but even my old dell precision with 15" WUXGA; I can't bear to chop off 120 pixels from the bottom or top. I'm still using this laptop with pentium M because its secreen is so great. To get a 17" screen in any PC you have to get a behemoth clunker. There are a few 15" wuxga's but none with I7, just core 2 duo. Pisses me off. I would be willing to have someone build a notebook to my specifications at any cost if that were possible!
     
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