*HP HDX 9000 DRAGON Owners Lounge, Part 2*

Has this just developed and there was no precursor event (disassembly perhaps)?

 

The flexing started about a month ago. The scrolling problem started about two months ago. It's never been disassembled. Weird huh?

 

The OC'ed 8800M GTS is capable of going one .point up to 6.7 (Desktop and 3D Gaming graphics) on some systems.

 

Again you have your old problem. Do you have a new GPU drivers installed?
Remember, after new GPU driver is "PowerMizer" back on!
Dannn HDX stutters again while scrolling.
Check this!

 

I think so.

The problem is, every time you check everything is ok.
So no longer controls you.
But if and only does this phenomenon.
Certainly also with you.
Possible the first time. Or only at the 30 Start.
By the way, according to energy saving mode.

(Is again difficult to explain with translation.)

Sure, otherwise it makes "ThrottleStop" also makes no sense!

Problem has nothing to do with battery mod.
I also use no battery, but now I could with a full bar.

Note:What do you think of this value?
Short computation error of HWiNFO32, or peak levels?

 

Yes sir; are you okay with a small screwdriver? If so go to first page of this thread and examine how you are able to disassemble to remove kb (it's not cumbersome or difficult at all). Before you actually remove kb understand there are some double sided sticky tape areas that help solidify the positioning it's deterioration may, or may not be, the culprit. Once you are at this point inspect for any foreign items present (spills, small objects that have slipped though the spaces, etc.). Clean/replace as necessary with a mind to add buffering material to level kb as best as possible and be very cognizant of proper tightening of the screws so you are not over/under. I noticed that when I reasembled mine after air passage cleaning that I needed to put more attention into this.

Mr. Berlin, he's discussing a kb malfunction - not sure if you indeed intended this reply for this scenario.

 

Is this the keyboard you've had since new? I'm on my 3rd now; they're not exactly bullet-proof. I would just get a new one, there are plenty on ebay.

 

Totally agree, no sense in it. Even going RAID 0 on two and having 100MB r/w as backup would be unbalanced (at least mentally). Better to switch to single MLC SSD even though everything else is bottleneck! Just not worth unless chipset is upgraded.

Much obliged

Oc'ing gpus scares me because of the watt draw. However, has it been worth it to you?

 

I read from a scroll problem:

I immediately think of the GPU and Powermizer. I also know it is a Pinballman "Powermizer" turned off (or had)

Apparently it is a hardware problem, and so my question to Pinballman unnecessary.

@ Pinballman
Sticky keys that open repair without the HDX.
(Liquid spill?)
As I read, however, is their keyboard anyway not 100%, then do not have individual keys to be repaired.

 

DRAGONe

Please remeber about cooler test

 

Hi, new here, almost 3 years with my dragon and wouldn't trade it for anything. Just found this forum and I'm glad - have to take my system apart to clean the fan above the CPU, it comes on a lot lately. Replaced the keyboard once, so only a LITTLE nervous. heh

Rock on dragon owners. The ultimate computer.

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HP HDX 9010NR T7500 @ 2.2GHz, 4GB RAM, Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB

 

Welcome aboard orbi.

 

I'm thinking along the same lines as a few others in that you may need to reseat the keyboard - meaning, to check the keyboard connector by taking it out of its zif slot and reinsert it firmly. This should fix the "stuck" key issue. As for the flex, not sure. You might need a new keyboard.

I'll look into that stuck keyboard issue in case it's not a hardware problem.

 

No doubt; slightly delayed with preparation of items being auctioned on eBay and completion of a A2420 project.

 

Welcome; make sure and get all the way to the air interchange vanes (I found nearly enough dust to use as a coffee filter - just kiddin' but it was plenty).

Not bein' too nitpicky but your ATI is 256MB like my DRAGONe.

 

Hi, I'm new to the forum, I found it by accident and would like to congratulate you on a job well done.
I have a HDX 9350 is
My pc does not recognize the battery when connected, neither recognized when I connect to the stream.
Sorry for my English.


Thanks

 

Help needed please.

Right out of the blue (pardon the pun), my Dragon has decided to give me the dreaded BSOD around the login/fingerprint recognition part of the boot up sequence. It doesn't happen every time, I'd say about 70% of the time, and if it gets past that stage it seems fine and doesn't crash.
I haven't updated any system drivers, just an optional HP HotKey update and the usual windows updates. The only "suspect" one would be this.... Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2249857). This is a reliability update. Install this update to prevent disk corruption when hibernating or crashing using a disk drive that is greater than or equal to two terabytes. After you install this item, you may have to restart your computer.
It boots up every time with no complaints in Safe Mode.

Does anyone have any advice on how I can chase this error down? Could it be the aforementioned update that has caused my problems?
Any advice would be most appreciated.

Cheers,

CJ

 

I had bsod 0x00000007f
What is it?

 

I think I now know the reason for it.
You have not used "ThrottleStop V 2.89, but equal to the" 2.90 Beta 4 (Beta 5 now).
In the new versions of this problem (wrong voltage at the start) does not exist.
Again, the profile switch is possible.

My new spot for VistaHPx32 "and" Win7Prof.x64 "looks as follows:

1.User who always want to work with 2.7 GHz (T9300), can the "2.90 Beta 5 'to 100% trust.
Minimized Startup without restrictions when Start Dual IDA "in the options" on ".

2.User who want to switch between "profiles ThrottleStop" must check how clock.
Reason: If you made under clock to maxclock on, it will sometimes hang at the multiplier x12.5.
In 90% of the switching of the multiplier goes to x13.5. Vice versa 10% of the switching hang it remains to x12.5. (Win7)

Curiously, in percentage terms it is VistaHPx32 reversed.
(In 10% of the switching of the multiplier goes to x13.5. Vice versa 90% of the switching hang it remains to x12.5.)

If the "Start Dual IDA" command can be executed automatically when the profile switch, there would be no such problem.
This I will say "unclewebb" and then maybe it's an option in the "Beta 7".

Why "Beta 7" and not "beta 6"?
Because " Beta 6 is already released!
Will this same test .....

EDIT: My mistake, this function has already 2.90.

I have just discovered. In V2.89, it was not even present.
It seems that 2.90 beta x have no problems with Vista and Win7 more.

 

Have you tried to do a restore to a restore point before the update? That might answer your question.

 

Googling that yields a frequent cause of memory or GPU errors. There are sometimes other causes, though.

Do you open and clean your machine regularly?

 

ThrottleStop
What can I say, the story continues. Not any more but here, for other than myself will be interested no one.
If you want: here Sorry

 

Yes, tried unistalling the "suspect" update first and restored after that didn't work. The problem still exists though.

CJ

 

yes a month ago.
temps are ok.
I run 3dmark06 - no problem and memtest86 no errors.
how to check what's wrong?

 

Are you running Zone Alarm?

I did a generic search for HP HDX and your error message, and found this on a Windows 7 forum. Please read the whole page.
BSOD 0x7f - Windows 7 Forums

Hope it helps.

MobileArtist

 

Thx for welcome 2.0 & DRAGONe - oh yeah, 256MB. heh

Thx for tip - cleaned 'er out and it's not coming on & off in short bursts anymore.

Also, I purchased two Targus 17" cooling mats, turned sideways, they make an ample mat for the dragon, with no fans involved.

 

Was there a ton where I mentioned or what? Please reference my post #358.

 

It's hopefully just a keyboard problem, thank you anyway RickiBerlin!

Thanks to everyone! Added a new keyboard to my X-mas list. It's looking a bit tired anyway. As was mentioned, they're readily available and easy to install. And thank you 2.0 for your legwork in case I don't have a hardware problem.

I would like to sincerely wish each and every one of you a wonderful holiday and a happy and healthy New Year. I don't post often, but I read every day. Many have helped me out without even knowing it. From our INCREDIBLE moderator on down, you are ALL a class act, and it's a privilege being part of this forum.

 

So I was about to attempt to run nando4's bios mod to OC my rig, and I get ther error, "THIS SYSTEM DOES NOT CONTAIN THE NECESSARY WMI SUPPORT FOR THIS VERSION OF HPQFLASH. PLEASE USE A VERSION PRIOR TO 4.0"

The guide where it says to download "HP Quickeys" to fix that issue confuses me even more because google searching doesn't reveal any results, so what is hp quickeys?

 

@S K I

I had already asked me. Here, surely not HPQuickLaunchButtons be meant? (Attention Direct Download)
When Sart about "update.exe" is possibly the existing BIOS version is important. With me was "F.40 E" original already exists.
At best these issues might, however, with "nando4" be repealed.
Good luck!

@ For ThrottleStop Interested

 

Sorry, can not solve your bug, but I think about it.
1.What is your "optional HP HotKey update"? I can not remember it. Could not find it on my system too.
2nd (KB2249857) at gives me no problems. I installed it on 27/10/2010.
3. Only to exclude it ... Do you have maybe a GPU driver installed higher than 257.21? (For example, 260.99)
This would certainly not have BSOD on boot, but let these drivers our HDX few minutes crashes. (But with black screen)
But who knows, under certain conditions?
Should I still come up with something useful, I'll let you know.

Item 3 also applies to Aldam. + Sometimes worthwhile taking a look at the anti-virus quarantine.

 

If the thread which I posted earlier has merit...
BSOD 0x7f - Windows 7 Forums
... then Zone Alarm driver vsdatant.sys might be the culprit, but at any rate Anti Virus/Firewall may be the source of the trouble.

MobileArtist

 

This article/thread references both Zone Alarm and Norton as generating the error in Windows 7:
Windows 7 Blue Error Screen - Stop Code: 0x0000007f

The workaround seems to involve disabling NetBIOS over TCP/IP.

Aldam might want to give it a read.

MA

 

Hello mateys,

I've only very recently discovered this gem of a forum and just subscribed because I'm planning to give my Dragon a decent upgrade for Christmas and therefore seek some advice from folks who know what they're talking about...

I'm going to get an X9100, hoping to run it at 3.6GHz, so far so good. An OCZ Vertex 2 120GB is also on the wish list as is a Seagate Momentus XT 500GB.

That being said, my question is regarding the RAM upgrade - on page 1 it says 8GB DDR2 667 will work fine so I was thinking of getting that. On the other hand, there were a number of people who seem to be using DDR2 800 instead so I was wondering if anyone can tell me which RAM's the better/best choice for the Dragon (brands are likely to be be G-Skill or Corsair (CL5)).

Many thanks,
Me

 

JustMe79, welcome to NBR! Yeah, its an awesome place recently found it myself. Lots of useful info. Have fun, and ask away.

 

Oh - another question I had is about the display - is it possible to get replacement WUXGA displays in Europe(UK, GER)?

I'd so love to get rid of my WSXGA+ one... - the only thing I actually always kind of 'hated' about my Dragon. Unfortunately the WUXGAs were only available as an upgrade option in the US, I think. :-(

Would anyone be willing to swap their WUXGA in favour of a mint condition WSXGA+? Maybe someone who's eyes aren't that sharp anymore... or so?? ;-)

Apart from that, is there any news on the graphics card front? Any crazy new hack that eventually allowed us to use that lovely 280M?

 

X9100(1066mhz) will NOT work in the HDX. You're limited to the X9000(800mhz).

800mhz RAM works, but it down clocks making it slower than 667mhz. If you are a stickler for fastest, then stick (pun intended) with 667mhz RAM. G-skill is a favorite around here.

 

You might be able to find them on eBay. Many vendors ship internationally. Search: 452302-001 and lots of vendors will pop up on Google.

That's a dead end. 8800M GTS is the limit.

 

HAHA funny!

 

The ADDCCV3 documentation on the compression algorithm the HP Inventec bios uses. If can figure out how to do it AND find an appropropriate MXM module and vbios, eg: FX3700M, then there is no reason why it wouldn't work.

Worth noting, the HP 8710W had a FX3600M option. Not sure if anyone is willing to try to flash the 8710W bios on their HDX9000 via the emergency recovery method? Just rename the 8710W rom.bin to be 30d4.bin on a USB floppy, hit WIN+B on startup. To flash back to the HDX9000 bios, copy it as 68MAD.bin on the USB floppy and do a WIN+B or hold the four-arrows on startup. Though if they use different keyboard controllers then the keyboard may be clobbered in which case hold down as many keys as can on startup. Ensure you *don't* do 2-passes if it asks for it. Best would be to remove the flash eeprom chip and do a backup of it using a USB SPI burner *just in case*.

Yes.. I've flashed a 6710P and 2710P bios and reversed it on my 2510P.

Someone did put a FX3700M into a 8710W, but it was downclocked, it was overheating and they could only see 256MB as explained.

If extremely lucky, the 8710W's FX3600M compressed vbios byte markers may line up so can just copy/paste the vbios into the HDX9000 bios.

DIY ViDock instead?

Still waiting on word on what slot your expresscard is. If it's port1, then could do a x2 DIY ViDock which would be a substantial performance improvement over the 8800 GTS.

 

@JustMe79

What condition is your display ? Maybe I'd be interested

 

I'll check this bsod in depth but in a few days.
I don't use zone and norton.

I haven't installed new programms for 2 or 3 months, and bsod happend just once.
I hope it's not MB or GPU problem.

 

I have read this from you on several occasions.
However, mine is not clear. What should be slower here?
I decided quite consciously to 800MHz and can also detect in practice no slowdown.

 

Apart bios,
280m (3700m/3600m) physically fits?

 

No, it doesn't without physical modification to the HDX's heatsink or using a 4-5mm thick copper shim.

 

It is sort of like using the Kingston x 4-4-4-12 667mhz RAM. In practice you won't see a difference. But in benchmarks you will. In Wprime 32M test, I recorded/noticed an almost 2 sec difference, give or take, using 667mhz versus 800mhz.

 

A technical explanation you have not, right?
And so it was me. I just long to do, but found no TECHNICAL disadvantage. Also an advantage, of course. Unless the FSB can lock lever out at some point.
Also, there are between the RAM vendors do not differ more.
(At least not for our timing options 5-5-5-15)

So and now to practice:
Who is using 8GB of RAM (667!) On Win7x64 best with a T9300 and is set to 2.7 GHz.
Here's my result wPrime and WI (WI RAM value only with the same processor, at X9000 or T9500 automatically higher number Punk)

 

I'm glad that you only had a bsod once. Nevertheless, the same error shows up with another antivirus as the culprit... Kaspersky. From the following site, down on the page:

Blue Screen - 0x0000007F

"Hi,

the crashes are caused by the driver:

Image path: \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\klif.sys
Image name: klif.sys
Timestamp: Wed Nov 11 14:32:39 2009 (4AFABCF7)

which belongs to Kaspersky. So update your Kaspersky or remove it.

André
"A programmer is just a tool which converts caffeine into code" CLIP- Stellvertreter WinVistaSide

* Proposed As Answer byAndre.Ziegler Monday, August 09, 2010 8:56 PM"

MA

 

You're gonna have to forgive Ricki, but you sort of confused me with that response, I apologize for that. But if I understand you correctly, that link to the other bios did not work either because my current bios are newer than those. So if you could elaborate further again, that would be great. Once again, I do apologize for not understanding you correctly.

 

You misunderstood me, and that's no wonder.
You can not newer than Bios F.40 E have. This is indeed the last for HDX.
The modded bios is also F.40 E.
My question was: What is with you bios currently installed?

But the best you ask at Nando4 what he means by "HP QuicKeys".

Maybe there is still someone else who answered your question. This again here as a quote: