*HP HDX DRAGON Owners Lounge, Part 1*

That deserves rep for being quick on the trigger and nabbing the 10,000th post spot.

+rep.

 

With the 197.16 driver, there is a brightness issue with Win7. Assuming it will be the same for Vista. Though, unlike the 195.xx series, this one only crops up when you reboot. Not when waking from sleep. On reboot, it will default to a max brightness irrespective of whatever brightness level you set using the FN+f7/f8.

Only solution thus far is to uninstall QLB software. I don't use the QLB buttons because I don't use quickplay. I find Windows Media center to be better.

Uninstalling the QLB means you lose funtionality of the 3 QLB buttons. But the other quicktouch buttons work fine (volume, wifi, mute). You also lose Fn+ f7/f8.

 

This I can not confirm for my system.
Rather, it is the same behavior as already under 195.62 WHQL and 195.81 Beta on Vista.
I described this behavior ever explicitly.
For me, the screen always remains equally bright even after a reboot.
Unfortunately, on FN + F8 can not reach full brightness.
This must be in the Mobility Center (Windows key + X). By changing the value there, but for the brightness, it shall be saved under the current power scheme.
Check the 2.0!

 

I still have QLB installed, I keep my brightness "two notches" down from max. I do not have this issue with the 197.16 and Vista Home Premium 64-bit.

My Dragon is also on AC power 100% of the time, for what that's worth.

**EDIT** -- I JUST uninstalled QLB (should have done that over a year ago...) However, I need to keep the HP QuickPlay software, since Windows Media Center can't seem to figure out that I've got a TV tuner card. It never has.

 

Very much agreed on that.

 

I got it via Steam on sale, but haven't played it yet.

 

Well since you were probably times a profound hardware exchange made.
Had this problem on the CPU, GPU and motherboard change.
Tuner expansion, deletion or drivers get no solution.

Since there is no hardware deffekt (Quick Play is indeed television), it's the computer-specific rights management. "DRM"

Do the following:

1st Folder View for protected system files and hidden files unlock.
2nd Go to Root: \ Program Data \ Microsoft \ Windows \ DRM \ Cache
3rd Delete move, or rename the following files to "Indiv01.bla"; "Indiv01.key"; "Indiv01.tmp" (I've moved it and secured)

Now, the TV tuner card, after a reboot, are recognized by Media Center.

Caution: If you have DRM protected files purchased may no longer work then this.

I had this problem under Vista. I see in Win7 two folders in the cache, which did not exist in Vista.
If that does not, it could still disrupt this. The file "IndivBox.key" in parent "DRM" folder, move as a last attempt.

Edit: As I recall, this was in the normal Windows operation. Otherwise do it in Safe mode!

 

HOLY $H!+ !!! It works!!!!!

I haven't had any major hardware change. When I received the Dragon (I bought directly from HP), before powering it on for the first time, I boosted it from 2gigs to 4gigs of RAM.

Only other change I've done (which was around a month ago) was replace both 200gig drives with 500gig drives.

The files you directed me to (I just renamed them all) were all dated about a week after I received the Dragon. Which (I would think) was the time I tried to initially launch and use Windows Media Center.

I now FINALLY have a use for the remote control on the Dragon!! Instead of just looking mighty cool. Dust has really built up under that thing, since I haven't removed it in over a year (yet I dismantle my Dragon about once a month for a good cleaning).

Anyway, it works!!! THANK YOU so much for this!!!!

Reps to you, RickiBerlin!!!

--Alex

**EDIT** -- The FM radio now works too!! Neat!!

 

--Alex

I'm glad for you. Under Vista, although the TV image was QuickPlay better, but in Win7 is also the Media Center TV picture ok.
In addition, the operation of the Media Center is much better. And something else is better, the resource utilization is lower.
Reduced GPU load, thus quieter. My GPU is locked to 215/110/465 clocking, since Media Center is running at its best.
QuickPlay TV has problems with this mode clocking. BlueRay playback, however, also works there, wonderful.

Still wonder what caused her problem. Memory and HDD replacement not hinder DRM. As has been the CPU or the motherboard be changed.

Anyway, I want you now no longer interfere with television.

What software do you use for FM radio? <----EDIT:Sorry forget my sentence. understand your FM radio had stopped working.

 

RickiBerlin,

The QuickPlay was neat. But that's about it. It was HORRIBLY slow responding to any keystrokes or remote button presses. So, I just didn't use it (or WMC).

WMC and the DRM -- I have absolutely zero DRM music or video on my system. In my head, I was thinking that it was because I launched the QuickPlay software first (when I received the Dragon).

The FM radio is in WMC. I didn't even know the Dragon / TV Tuner had a FM tuner in it. I don't listen to broadcast radio at all, but still a neat surprise!

Again, thank you so much for your help. I NEVER would have figured that all out.

 

In Quick Play is also an FM tuner. He called the HP TV Tuner Radio, and is in the media environment.
Thus, there are two software TV and two FM software environments.

That's why I asked earlier, with which you have a problem. I had you but only translated incorrectly.

So everything chic.

 

I go to make a housecall for a client's PC for a few hours and you guys go and make it to 1,002 pages lol

WOOOO HOOOOOOO!!!!

 

No kidding. I didn't know that either.

I just tried and I'm only getting static. Do I need to plug in an FM antenna for it to work?

[L]

 

Sorry for taking so long in getting back to you but went thru a recent illness
and am much better now....

2.0 would like to add to your rep' but not sure how!

How much would a consultant cost to lay out the upgrade plan for my machine? (the one you just gave me free, thanks!)

you guys have been pretty busy here lately, lots to read and catch up on...

 

thanks rickiberlin....eject button and it works ... thank you very much ... by the way I am on Windows 7 and device manager says there is a uknown .... put in details ACPI/ITE8710 ITE8710

 

Thanks! HP impressed me with this.....kudos to tech "maggie"!!! i could tell it was a labor of love repairing this machine after closely inspecting it...

whoever Maggie is, would love to send a nice email in regards to what she did !

 

Runs great on the dragon. At 1920x1200 I'm getting 40 fps. It's an excellent storyline and a blend of FPS and RPG. I highly recommend playing ME1 first for the sake of the story and the fact that you can import that character into your ME2 game. Apart from Steam, Gogamer.com is usually cheap.

 

that is one awesome idea, +rep. would that really be possible?

 

you should give modern warfare 2 also a go, it's so super realistic and with full screen on the dragon, complete dark room, sometimes it's like you're in the story. Unless you don't like fps

 

U may have heard of it, High Point NC, we had a couple of tornados in the neighborhood, we seen and HEARD it coming but we were spared!

all i know is when the machine came back it has admin prvilidges for "Maggie", maybe you could ask for her!! I left it as is as a tribute to a job nicely done!

 

Works for your remote control?
If not, then you lack these drivers.
That should solve your problem (ACPI/ITE8710).

 

would what be possible? tritium paint is readily available if that's what you mean. steady enough hands not to be sloppy, that's another story. it should last 10 years (half life).

 

Radioactive keys. I like it already.

Works great on gun sights, would look great on keys.

 

not sure if there is sarcasm there, but that tritium i don't believe even would penetrate the skin. now...consider that you are in fact putting it on something that you will be contacting with your skin, i imagine you can further protect it by spraying it with some kind of clear coat. just a thought.

 

for the paranoid in you, you can get the "glow in the dark" kind where it has to be exposed to light first.

 

Well go try and post pics!

 

Nope, no sarcasm. I plan on steampunking one of my HDXs. Tritium/phosphor keys done in the old style Smith Corona round typewriter keys will by the shiznits.

Brilliant idea. Pun intended.

 

make a video please, I would like to see the process? Ok no, I would like to do that as well lol and just blatantly copy you

 

Hi, I just need a 'humor-me' if any of you might.

Can I install my XP partition back onto a fresh win 7? I'm at my install limit and just don't want a new XP OEM to pour out artifact dust-like from its sleeve. I guess I'm here wondering if it is Dragon-worthy or not except for running old 3D rendering programs faster (or not?) than 7.

I've also seen other forums whispering about the 3700m re-deification of the Dragon. Any word?

thanks

 

do you have win 7 pro? you need professional to be able to do virtualization (which is running windows xp on 7)

 

thanks again rickiberlin... I have win7 almost complete .... the only problem I have is that the personal digital I do not detect the fingerprint sensor (with driver installed) ... any ideas? thanks again

 

XP is obsolete. If you really don't need it, don't bother. Getting drivers will be very difficult since the one person who was hosting all the drivers shut down his website. He's moved on to win7.

You can try running XP in virtualized mode under Win7 Pro or Ultimate.

You must be referring to Laptopvideo2go forum. The answer is it will not work. No MXM card will work. The MXM card in the HDX is proprietary. While it may have MXM spec, the BIOS, design and electrical specs are not.

 

Prolly won't get around to doing it until next summer. Lots of planning involved.

But yeah, if anytime, a pictorial if I can't remember or am too lazy to do a video.

 

muchos appreciatedos

 

Figured. Just probably got too attached to XP since Vista felt like a leech.

I found this:

http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Display-and-video/MXM-Upgrade-on-HP-HDX-Notebook/td-p/209817

But I guess all I've been hearing are crickets in the wind. "Now now, don't cry HDX, you'll short-circuit"

thanks

 

Yeah, there doesn't seem to be an option besides pro or ultimate unless you just want a 15 lb netbook. Okay, so games look cool too.

 

Was she the case manager? I'm wondering because I would love to get her or someone like her when I send my HDX in for repairs, instead of have some nightmare I've heard from others under other case managers care.

 

LOL. Yeah, you should have been here last summer. A poster who's name I forgot said his friend upgraded his HDX to a 9800M GTX. No proof whatsoever. Was funny because everything I knew about the HDX made it seem impossible. So I put my money where my mouth was and bought a 280M GTX think I might have been mistaken. Learned/confirmed that it's impossible firsthand since the HDX's 8800M's card, form factoriwse is not even built to standard spec. So the heatsink won't mate with any standard MXM card. Two components on a standard card are in a place that prohibits the heatsink from resting atop the GPU's heatspreader. The gap is about .3 in. Or the thickness of a penny.

Then there's the issue of electrical compatibility. Another failure. Just not enough juice supplied to the MXM port.

Then there's the issue of the card's video BIOS being integrated into the system BIOS. And there's no way to modify the system BIOS since the vital bits are encrypted.

So without pics and proof, anything you read on the net otherwise is... "I know a guy, who knows a guy, who knows a guy..."

 

Have you decided which would be the best internals to use in the HDX? Anything without a less powerful GPU than the 8800?

 

XP runs ok on the HDX, but no bass in the subwoofer. If you/anyone wants or needs the drivers I downloaded them all from the mercs site before the site closed. I guess I can yousendit.com it to you/anyone that wants them. But like 2.0 said, unless you need or want firewire and other peripherals via XP that may not work via XP Mode in Windows 7, there's XP mode in Windows 7 that we can use instead.


Didn't they get the 3600 working properly in an HP (proprietary?) laptop? I didn't see if they fixed the issues with the 3700 yet...or did they?

 

Steampunking is mostly cosmetic. The remote will be a real challenge.

 

...don't think Maggie was the case manager but the repair tech...but this has given me an idea, i will email hp and reference my case number with a very positive post and request to know who my case manager was...then i will get back to you ....

 

ahhh...but i dont fall into that category for that. i would do tritium, not the phospor or whatever the glow in the dark stuff is called.

also i think there could be a way of scanning the keys, getting some sticker company to have their laser thingy make a cut out version of the characters of the key (cheap especially if you put it on 1 sheet), that you can use as a stencil, after you carefully tape it over the key...then just paint over.

i think that would be better than freepainting it over each character, ymmv.

 

That would be great. Odd that you weren't in direct contact with the case manager, but that would be wonderful. Thanks.

 

thanks!

green i believe is the brightest. unless you really like blue. i guess blue would match the other lighting...so that might be good. i sourced out the paint last year, because i was thinking about doing this. don't have a link ready. googled, then found some forum, then got a link.

speaking of keys, one of my keys is not as bouncy as the others, and it kind of feels like something is underneath, so i am wondering, so i do not break the key, how easily it is to pop the key off, from where, how much force, etc.

i only get 1 shot, cuz i doubt i can find an extra hdx keyboard key online.

 

and actually if you were to use different keys to steampunk, you wouldnt have to go through that effort to scan to match...you'd probably just get stencils to match the font you want and voila.

 

I use glow in the dark stickers, they work but I also put a keyboard cover over them and some number get rubbed off by the rubber of the cover moving against them. The sticker company giver you extras so it's not that big of a deal. I figure the paint would be way brighter, but I wonder if it's toxic to touch.

 

You can get the keyboards on ebay. I'm thinking about buying an extra one or two just in case.

 

Hmm, maybe I should ask what exactly you mean by steampunking? I thought you were saying you wanted to use the internals of another notebook to use inside of the HDX frame externals/monitor?

 

did you think about NOT using the keyboard cover? what kind of cover did you get to fit the dragon?