*HP HDX DRAGON Owners Lounge, Part 1*

These drivers usually work good for gaming, just do not support Blue Ray Play back. Which I do a lot of. I use my HDX as a Player and hook it up to my HD TV. I have been debating making a second boot that I will use when I play Blue Ray so I can have both sets of drivers. I would like to play around with PhysX and get the most out of gaming. I just do not want to keep reinstalling different drivers for many reasons. I have not decided if it his is worth it or not. I wish there was something like hardware profiles for drivers.

 

Added your request to the guide. Section 3A.

 

Which specs and how much kind sir. that is if you were wanting to sell one?

 

Also a disclaimer....this INF is only for Vista 32 systems.

 

Could you give us the exact link, please?

 

Yep, sorry....me bonehead

http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=20618

 

Is there a way to turn off the "power on" feature when the touch sensitive buttons are touched? I only want the system to power up when I actually pushed the "power on" button.

 

Go to this link http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/ and on the right hand nside you can choose your OS and 64Bit to get the 64 Bit INF and Drivers.

I have used these in the past. I will most likely play around with them again.

 

Quickie Question...Have had an HDX Dragon since May, love the beast and this group. Found a $500 dollar coupon for the new 16 in model for a friend. If I order it with HD resolution (1920x1200) will it be too small a font in the native resolution on a 16 in screen? His main purpose for the machine is business and the browsing. Thanks Guys (and Ladies too) David

 

Depends on the individuals vision. I, personally, have good up-close vision and prefer higher resolution displays on smaller screens. Much more screen "real-estate" for spreadsheets, Outlook, etc.

But, if you can't see things because they're too small, it defeats the purpose.

 

I know it's a 16 inch screen but these specs are great for $1200:

Operating system Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium (64-bit)
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor T9600 (2.80GHz)
Display 16" High Definition HP Ultra Brightview Infinity Display (1920x1080p)
Memory 4GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
Graphics card 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
320GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
Personalization [For BrightView Infinity Display] Webcam + Fingerprint Reader
Keyboard HP Color Matching Keyboard
Networking Intel(R) WiFi Link 5100AGN and Bluetooth(TM)
TV & entertainment experience No TV Tuner w/remote control
Primary battery 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
Productivity software Microsoft(R) Works 9.0
Primary CD/DVD drive Blu-Ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer

Any opinions?

 

Anyone else here running Warhammer online on their HDX? I have updated my display drivers but it still doesn't run as smooth as I thought it would on this hardware.

HDX 9494nr

penryn 2.1 core2duo
4 gb RAM
Nvidia 8800m 512
Vista x64

Has anyone got this to run super smooth? If so any recommendations?

 

If I were to use these drivers would it be wise for me to uninstall the official HP drivers? If so I am seeing that there are specific INFs for certain manufacturers? Is this true? If so, where are those located on the website? I can only find the ones you're talking about here by selecting the os and the architecture.

 

I'd say the only thing lacking is 2-4" of screen, but if you can live with the 16, those specs are hard to beat at that price. That's with the $500 coupon, right?

 

Do you know where the 64bit version of this would be found?

 

It is a nice Notebook. Only issues I would have are of course the 16" screen, and then mainly the Graphics card. I do a lot of gaming and need the extra power. Especially for future proof. With the 1920x1080 resolution, (I have the 1650x1080 for this reason) it pushes the limits of the 8800m in some of the new 1st person shooters and some other newer games. The 9600m GT would probably choke unless you lowered settings. That is just IMHO.

I am not bashing the HDX16 or 18 for that matter. I just would think that HP would at least equal the Spec of the HDX Dragon not lower the bar. I could live with the 18” screen but once again not the Graphics. If I was in the market and looking for a notebook as soon as I saw the GPU I would start looking elsewhere. The 8800m GTS is what ultimately sold me on the Dragon. If they offered an 8800m GTX or what would make more since a 9800m I would be sold.

It all comes down to what you you plan to use it for, and what you expect of it. For the Price and it being new it is not a bad price. Just not what I would want or need. If iy fits your needs then go for it.

But with my Dragon for only $1599 I will be good for a few years.

Edit:
Just to give a good comparison of what I am talking about with the GPUs look at these links:

9600m GT Specs
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-9600M-GT.9449.0.html

8800m GTS Specs
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-8800M-GTS.6934.0.html

You can do a search on the site and see the 9800m GT, GTS, and GTX to see what the potential could be as well.

 

Yes with the coupon.

Geeeeeeeez.........I was off the forum for about 3 days thinking as someone mention, that this thread was dying down - pft, yeah right - I just fiiiii...nally caught up!
Whew......

 

Yeah I see what you mean. Maybe 2.0 is right (duh ) & there will be an upgrade to that GPU. I read that it's to include a bluray burner in December too, so maybe by then. It's also supposedly upgradeable to 8G ram.....speaking of which.......

@Lancorp
Soooo Lancorp, you sellin the 8G ram version there buddy?

@Rumba
Sorry to be feedin, but I have to give props. "3.0" had me:laugh:

 

I read one of the author's earlier threads and I guess he doesn't have a 64bit system, so he does not mod INF's for the 64bit. There are other INF's that ARE for 64bit systems, but not HP specific as done by this guy.

 

Yes, this is true, but not HP specific drivers. Many folks here in the "lounge"
report that these drivers don't work with the HDX Blu-ray player. I don't have one so it's never really been an issue. The only reason that I posted the most recent INF is that it is for HP users, and hopefully it allows you guys with Blu-ray to utilize a PhysX driver and have Blu-ray functionality. But I truly don't know if they are compatible with the HDX Blu-ray setup.

 

I do have the blu-ray player but never use it. I got this laptop for its hardware and screen realestate. I was hoping to play some games on it at high detail and just rock it. But they don't seem to run as good as I thought. I was told to look for third party drivers. So I'v been looking and have seen that people recommend those from the local laptop2 page. I tried this but it made it worse. I thought maybe it was because of me not uninstalling the HP drivers first. I don't know how much more of a performance increase I will receive by using these third party drivers. But I hope it is a lost because I really purchased this thing to play solid games on, and it just doesn't seem to be living up to my expectations.

 

i think i found some new info and the new hdx notebook. Sorry if im wrong though, i cant really listen since im at work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFv_fIof5Xc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFv_fIof5Xc

but now that i think about it, its probly best to keep this thread for the 20 inch one that we are all use to

 

There have already been HDX16 and 18 owner lounges set up.

 

List the games you're talking about. What screen reso do you have and play at?

Have you tried driver 175.97? It's listed a few pages back.

I've been gaming with 175.97 and have been having a good time. Latest games I've tried and play at native res (1680 x 1050) with full details and effects:

COD4
Gears of War
Madden '08
C&C Zero hour (some slow downs with 7AI bots by mid game)
DOOM 3
COD 2

Next to install:
Crysis
Bioshock
World in Conflict
Company of Heroes & opposing fronts
FEAR

 

http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/09/16/hp.denies.os.development/

Yikes.

After the experiences most of us have had with buggy HP software, can you imagine what a train wreck their OS would be?

 

I have played COD4 FEAR and Warhammer online. They play ok on hight settings at 1680 x 1050. I didn't go with the higher resolution screen. I have seen this game played on my bro. in laws computer. He has a desktop 3.0 core2duo with the nvidia 8800 gt and it just plays so much smoother on his computer. I know that the desktop hardware is different and better. But if you look at the requirements for these games this HDX meets and exceeds. I thought it would be as smooth as they are on my bro-in-law's desktop.

 

What games are you running? We HAVE a very HIGH END card, especially in the mobile market. There are just some games out there that destroy even high end desktop cards if running on moderately high settings. Please remember, you have to keep your expectations reasonable and IAW the hardware you have, even if it is the best or close to it. Most game companies today are developing today's games for next-gen hardware. That being said, the 8800 can handle most everything that is thrown at it at moderate settings. I have played AoC and Assassins Creed, not at highest settings, but they still looked **** good!

As several have stated in the past, the LV2G drivers don't play nice with most HP hardware, not just our HDX's. I can't explain it in a technical nature cause I'm not a terribly technical kinda guy. As the old saying goes "I know just enough to be dangerous", and better to be dangerous with my own stuff than someone elses.

I will say that the 174.74 driver and HP INF from that site scored the best in 3dMark and gave me better framerates in most games I play. But the current HP 175.97 driver that is linked on this site looks better color-wise on my machine and works fine for the main game I play...DDO, which isn't that demanding compared to many new games.

Try this one, 174.74 that doesn't require modded INF (8800GTS is listed in imbedded INF file):
http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=18052

I used it with the modded INF because I have Vista32 and could.

 

I know the feeling. I played NWN2 on my XPS Gen2 with 6800 Ultra. Ran like dog poop, so I got a 7800 GTX. Same thing, even though both cards were well above system requirements on box. That game was destroying high end systems that should have owned it. The game engine just wasn't optimized very well, and Obsidian knew it too. Lots of flame posts on their boards at the time, and lots of fixes and work-arounds. But the fact is, the game should have plyed better than it did on decent systems. You just find games like that from time to time, and more frequently as time goes by it seems.

 

How can you tell which releases there will require the Modified INF and which ones won't?

I have had to download the modified INF for all of the driver downloads I have done from this site.

 

I will give that one a shot. I want the best Fram Rate so if this is the one that will give it to me then I am all over it. Like I have said, I don't care to lose Blu Ray support at the moment. I don't have and HD tv at home, nor do I own or rent Blu-Ray movies. So this lose won't affect me. I just want to play my games in a solid fashion.

I want to make sure you all know that I appreciate you help and the knowledge you are sharing. I shows a lot of integrity to be so willing to help out.

 

Not sure....I haven't seen a WUXGA Dragon yet, and some say the LCD is a sight to behold...I might keep that one, and sell my current Dragon w/8GB (or not, and keep the WUXGA sealed in the box for someone to have and hold...)

I'm hoping the current market price for the Dragons allows me to make some extra $$$ to pay for the HDX16t I ordered yesterday!!

 

Whatever thread/post you got to, there will be a list of GPU's that the specific driver is made for, directly under the description of the driver. If the 8800m GTS is on there, (or the NVIDIA_G92.DEV_0609.1 I.D. number), then it doesn't require a modded INF. This is rarely the case though, as the majority of drivers on that site are desk top GPU drivers or drivers for specific mobile systems/GPU's. These are the ones you need to download the INF for, as the INF's are created to cover most mobile GPU's, regardless of the system they are in. Unfortunately, as in our case, you may lose functionality of other system components.

 

I received my mALX Alienware Backpack (as recommended by Black Knight here) today, and just wanted to pass along my thoughts to those looking for a bag for their HDX.

Bought from Alienware store on ebay (link provided in an earlier post from me), advertised as refurbished, but from what I can tell, it's brand new.

The Dragon HDX fits perfectly inside the notebook pouch/sleeve that built into the main compartment. Not too tight, not too loose. I do notice that my lid has some room to open though. Too bad HP didn't put a latch on the lid!

Lots (and I mean lots) of zippered pockets, nooks and crannies to store things. The shoulder straps and weight, when even hung over one shoulder, feels good, and not too heavy. Good padding on the back, and think nylon material that looks to be very durable. Definitely better, I think, than the Dicota, which doesn't have much extra room for my "stuff".

I am carrying around the ultra thin and light Kensington charger instead of the 180w power brick. That certainly saves me some weight, and thickness, yet allows me to use and charge the HDX when needed (just not participate in a LAN party fragfest, or whatever they call it now days...actually, I'm not much of a gamer anyways...)

So, anyone looking for a great case, you can still pick them up on ebay for $75 shipped:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Alienware-Auror...ryZ31520QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Now, if I could just get one of these without the "teen-branded" Alienware Alien Head on it...kind of silly for a mid-40's guy!

 

Coupon 500 off

http://www.logicbuy.com/hotdeals/8259/_500_Coupon_HP_Pavilion_HDX16t_16_in_1080p_Blu_ray_Laptop.aspx

 

Can anyone help? Is it somewhere int he control panel? Thank you.

 

thanks for the feedback lancorp. thanks also to black knight and the originalgiga for their earlier feedback on this backpack. hope you can post pics with the dragon inside the alien .... ware, that is

now i am convinced to get this one as an alternative to the jansport messenger bag that i am using now to move the dragon around

 

As it stands, there doesn't appear to be a way. It's electronic based. ACPI and all that. You can only stop the touchpad from powering on the system from stand-by by turning it off before going into standby.

 

Ok, a little experimenting and here are the results. My 3dMark06 (free version)scores are overclocked, so don't pay attention to that too much.

174.74 / 9412 (from several months ago, not today)
175.97 / 9365 (today with Strummer's...er, I mean rumba's HP linked driver)
177.98 / 9145 (today with LV2G modded HP INF)
177.73 / 9185 (today with LV2G modded HP INF)

As I earlier, I didn't really like the 174.74 overall except for performance. The 175.97 just looks sharper and crisper to me, even after fiddling with display settings.

177.98 is just overall meh...not craptastic, but no big deal.

177.73 looks really nice. A lower score but similar frame rates in DDO (only game I have loaded right now), but it really looks best in game after about 30 minutes or so. I have stable and fast internet for an MMO, so any glitches I usually get in game are server side or with lots of effects going on. I haven't experienced that yet. Seems like a good game driver and looks as good to me (opinions may vary) as the 175.97 overall. I'm gonna keep the 173.73 for at least a few days and see if I still like it then.

Take from this what you will, but thought I would do some comparing to try and offer choices. I picked the drivers from LV2G site based on reading some threads and trying to pick the ones people had the most success with using comparable nVidia based setups. Hope this helps some.

 

And...?

With a room temp of 18C/64F... brrrrr... that's to be expected.

Hey, don't you remember cybervision's pic post of his temps and his ambient? He was at idle. Yeah, right, I know, you wished he was @ 30-40% CPU usage. Sorry. When he took the snapshot he wasn't even web browsing.

What was funny, though, and I give you this, is when you posted as another person (arleneP, IIRC, or was it 3.0?) with another HDX w/x9000 pretending that you got the same temps as... erm... well... yourself to try to back up your point. That was classic, old son. Classic.

But here's the thing though. Something you might want to explore in your spare time. Look up posts of the gateway gaming notebook. You'll find temp posts for x9000, t9300's, t8100, etc. Penryns you see. And you'll note that they are all more or less the same temps. Omit the overclock temps for the x9000's if you happen to come across them. also note that some list ambient temp, some don't. But you can guess that they are most probably at or above 20C for a room temp. Interesting, isn't it?

 

Thanks for the advice slick, but as I said in earlier posts, I don't HAVE Blu-ray, and made that very clear to those I was testing for, especially az, who says he doesn't care if he has Blu-ray functionality right now anyway. READ THE POSTS IF YOU ARE GOING TO RESPOND PLEASE. I OC during testing just as a habit I got into with Dell. Rarely leave them that way, BUT I just played DDO on Ultra High settings to check OC'd temps and never got above 63C. The 174.74 I tested a while back was written down as overclocked, and since I also referenced that driver earlier as well, wanted to compare on an even playing field without re-installing. As far as HP color correction, I also said, in my opinion, this driver looked as good as 175.97 and that "opinions may vary". I also said I was going to use this driver (177.73) for a few days to make sure I like it. I may change back, but because I want to, not because the other, or HP/WHQL is your favored driver.

To each their own, but I have been very objective and forthright, where as usual, you just try to cram your opinions down people's throat. The name's change but the story seems to remain the same.

 

Classic, as usual...

 

Excellent work. Guess I'll stay with the 175.97 for a spell. Probably give Crysis a go this weekend and see what sort of minerals the HDX's got.

Looking forward to see not only if the new HDX 16/18 driver's infs contain 8800M GTS (G92/0609) but what version they start out with.

 

Going to have to ask for the source of this auto-downclocking temp threshold. TIA.

 

I've never in my life heard an english person put such an emphasis on the letter H..as in "HAAAAECH-D-X". Weird.

 

just thinking. with the release of the HDX16 and HDX18, shouldn'tthis thread be renamed / retitled to "... HDX Dragon ..." or "... HDX20 ..." just to avoid confusion?

 

When you get your system (assuming you get it..) Go to this link and input the HP Product # ( PRODUCT, NOT MODEL OR SERIAL!!) into the field:

http://tinyurl.com/4ca6po

This will take you to the Support page for your system. Update your drivers from there, particularly your QuickPlay if you got a BD-ROM with it. For any of the drivers you see there, MAKE SURE YOU READ what they're for before you install - don't just install it just because it's there. HP puts blanket updates on all system support pages, but it's up to the user to determine if the updates belong on their system. Don't make that mistake.
Vista updates obviously get from MS - setup your update for Manual, and again, read and check only what you need. If you select automatic, you'll likely wind up with every language update on the planet. For specific stuff and problems check here - 2.0 has a list of links that go back to 10,000 B.C. (the dinosaurs used them to update their systems) so you should be good.

 

Fact: Never called you a liar. I said this notion that the x9000 is more thermally efficient than the rest of the Penryns is bullocks. You can't source a single document which proves your contention because the notion is false.

Fact: your ambient temp has a large impact on your readings.

Here's what's funny, to me at least... and I quote: " At normal idle conditions, CPU usage goes up and down between 5 and 60%+ and CPU speed reaches 2.8 GHz; this happens within fractions of a second and did happen while taking these screenshots." Why is this funny? Because you're trying to use this to defend the indefensible. What do I mean? Concerning cycbervision's temp post, you're erroneously trying to suggest that a fraction of a second @ 30-40% CPU utilization is going to drastically affect his temps. That, my fine paranoid schitz-o with delusions of grandeur and dissociative indentity disorder friend, works against your dreamn't up notion of x9000's increased thermal efficiency. His ambient is simply high so his temps are correspondingly higher but not out of the ordinary for a dual core CPU @ 45nm with good to excellent cooling.

Stop wasting everyone's time with your bruised and fragile ego. This forum isn't about your HDX. It's about everyone's HDX. You've lost credibility with your adolescent antics, your several incorrect assumptions, and your failure to back up your out of the ordinary claims.

To think a you-tube video of Gary Coleman doing his famous line posted in good fun was all it took to make you "blow up" and delete all your posts (some of which gave you worth), create multiple accounts to subsequently troll the forum and try to create mistrust with blatant lies, really speaks volumes about your character.

And all you had to do was come back as yourself, admit your wrong doing, cease it, and all would have been forgiven. You can even come back as "rumba 2.0" seeing as your original nick "rumba" was recently banned.

That opportunity is still on the table. And it'll remain on the table. At least on my part. I can't speak for everyone.

But the longer you continue in this vein, the harder it'll be to build up credibility and what's more, relevance.

Save yourself, man.

 

Sure. But you'll have months to wait. Figure January when it's around 0 degrees F outside. Assuming such a temp will occur in NY this winter. Otherwise, where I keep the HDX, it won't drop much below 68F in the winter.

 

Source it. Give us a link then. Say, a Nvidia whitepaper on the mobile G92 that states that at temps >70 degrees C, the autodownclock feature kicks in. We all need to know for a fact that @ 71 deg C, performance will drop.

This is important info.

Oh, and do leave that post up considering its import. Or at least wait until it gets quoted before you delete all your posts again. I won't be around until much later and I don't want to miss it. TIA.

 

Star,
One thing you need to keep in mind is that the Gaming Community, as 2.0 and I were discussing privately recently, has somewhat moved away from PC gaming and toward more console games. The reason is the tendency for PC game publishers to put their games on the market without any mega QA, relying on online delivered updates to fix problems. I got tired of this a LONG time ago. At one time, PC games was all I played - nowadays, it's PS. Console games are tested to a rigid benchmark test to meet the console standard and configuration. The problem with PC games is that there are so many possible configurations of PC's out in the world (both hardware and software configs) that it is impossible for them to cover even a fraction. So what happens is they wind up making a game that will cover the majority of supposed configurations, publish, sit back and wait until the problems show up, then start making fixes. That's great if you want to get stuck at level 2 of a game and then wait until they get around to making a patch for it. Again, I got tired of that a long time ago.

What's really bad is now that console games have gone more toward online gaming, they're getting sloppy as well because they too can now deliver patches and updates online direct to the console. As a former QA Manager, it really gets under my skin, because there's no need for it - it's just laziness and lack of customer focus that makes them think they can do it, and they will until there's a backlash from consumers.