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    *HP HDX16 Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by jasbur, Sep 17, 2008.

  1. xtreme571

    xtreme571 Notebook Guru

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    @Capella1

    When did you place the order??
    Aftermarket solutions for tv-tuner are mostly exprescards. they tend to stick out about half an inch to an inch or so.

    you might be able to find the mini-pci-ex tv tuner somewhere, but you would have to route the antenna cable to the small hole on the side of the notebook.
     
  2. Capella1

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    Placed the order on 10/16/08.

    Found this tuner at Newegg as a possibility: AVerMedia AVerTV Hybrid NanoExpress MTVHBNOER ExpressCard / 54mm Interface

    Looks to fit completely flush.

    Not so much interested in airbands as I am cable/sat input, so antennae not really a concern to me. Trying to watch early morning news without disturbing others with household TV (light/noise), or any other time I want to watch when I want to watch it! Have not really explored solution though. Any advice appreciated.
     
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    On the subject of TV, is there a way to get cable news on to my home wireless network, or onto my laptop wirelessly? If so, could it be done without interupting programs being watched at the same time elsewhere in the house?
     
  4. xtreme571

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    there are websites like channelchooser that provide tv channels over the web. you can just google "watch live tv" and there are many websites provide the same channels as channelchooser. There will be delay in the news/tv channel, most likely 5-10 minutes, sometimes greater. Just depends on the website, channel, bandwidth, etc.

    Some TV-TUNER Options
    http://www.powernotebooks.com/category.php?catId=7

    http://www.lifeview.com.tw/html/products/wince_platform/flytv_express_mst_nta_mini.htm
     
  5. juanvallecillo

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    I recived my hdx16 today and returned my dv7t check pictures on youtube look for " Hp Hdx16 and dv7t"
     
  6. gizweb

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    I just ordered the HDX16T as below:

    - HP Pavilion HDX16t Entertainment Noteboo
    - Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium with Service Pack 1 (64-bit)
    - Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo Processor T9400 (2.53 GHz)
    - 16.0" diagonal High Definition HP Ultra BrightView Infinity Display (1920x1080p)
    - FREE Upgrade to 3GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm) from 2GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    - 512MB NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
    - 320GB 5400RPM SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    - HP Imprint Finish (Fluid) + Microphone + Webcam + Fingerprint Reader
    - HP Color Matching Keyboard
    - Intel Next-Gen Wireless-N Mini-card
    - FREE Upgrade to Blu-Ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW Double Layer
    - HP Integrated HDTV Hybrid Tuner
    - 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    - Microsoft(R) Works 9.0
    - HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

    questions:

    I see they now have a 12 cell battery (the day after I ordered). the only way to get it is to cancel my existing order, pay for the new configuration which is about $120 more than the original, so I guess I'll wait and order the battery when I need it. dissapointed that HP won't work with me to match my deal.

    What RAM do you recommend to upgrade to 4GB (I'll just sell the ram it comes with).

    anyone use the tv tuner, how does it work, good results?

    Has anyone tried a 7200 rpm HD, or is this not needed? Wouldn't it be faster?
     
  7. TheAtreidesHawk

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    Wow a 12 cell battery for the 16t is pretty cool. But it would be sticking out the back right?

    STill though the battery life would be dramatically improved hopefully and that would be worth it IMO.
     
  8. GilderoyLockhart

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    I wonder how long before they put the 12 cell in the accessories area? That's what I wanted originally. This 6 cell just doesn't cut it for me.
     
  9. GilderoyLockhart

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    1 word of caution, I noticed this the second I opened my HDX, but try not to put too much pressure on the outer lid of the screen when closed. The keys on the keyboard can cut into the screen glass since the there is really no frame. I've seen this countless times on cell phones with flip enclosures.
     
  10. gizweb

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    I called HP, they said they are limited qty and won't be available for some time. I'm sure in a month or so, they'll be available, price is $149.
     
  11. TheAtreidesHawk

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    What's limited in quantity? The 12 cell battery?
     
  12. Adrian2323

    Adrian2323 Notebook Consultant

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    Hello....First thing i would to know is can someone post a link to the HP coupons?Also how can i apply a coupon to my HDX16 if i choose to buy it.

    Iam looking for some opinions and possible advice on what will be my first laptop.Ive done some research on different laptops and have come up with this laptop from HP.I personally went to look at this laptop in person at bestbuy and really liked how this looked and the features it offers.

    Please feel free to share any thoughts on my pending purchase.I dont play video games and my basic use is web browseing and use of java loops for work.I need something fast and reliable that works good. Thanks so much.

    Here are the specs for my HP HDX16 Premium Series....

    HP Pavilion HDX Laptop with Intel® Centrino® 2 Processor Technology
    Lithium-ion battery
    AC power cable
    Mobile ScrollSmart remote, stereo ear bud headphones
    Software: HP Photosmart Essentials, Mediasmart and more
    Owner's manual
    Product Features
    Intel® Centrino® 2 processor technology with interrelated Intel® Core™2 Duo mobile processor P8400
    Intel® Wi-Fi Link 5100AGN network connection (802.11a/b/g/n) and extended battery life.

    The next-generation Intel® Core™2 Duo processor
    Based on the innovative Intel® Core™ microarchitecture, so it runs faster and is more energy-efficient for cooler, quieter operation.

    4GB DDR2 memory
    For multitasking power, expandable to 8GB. 1066MHz frontside bus, 3MB L2 cache and 2.26GHz processor speed.

    Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive with double-layer support
    Records up to 8.5GB of data or 4 hours of video using compatible DVD+R DL and DVD-R DL media. Also supports LightScribe direct-disc labels using compatible LightScribe media.

    16" high-definition HP Ultra Brightview Infinity widescreen display
    With (1920x1080p) showcases your movies and games in stunning clarity.

    320GB SATA hard drive (5400 rpm)
    Offers spacious storage options and fast read/write times. ProtectSmart hard drive protection technology locks the hard drive in place during abrupt motion to help prevent data loss.

    Built-in fingerprint reader
    For secure access to your data.

    NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT graphics
    With 512MB dedicated video memory and up to 2303MB total available video memory for vivid image detail. Built-in Altec Lansing speakers with Dolby Home Theater; built-in triple bass subwoofer. HDMI interface.

    Built-in HP Pavilion webcam with microphone
    Makes it easy to chat with and send video mail to family and friends.
    5-in-1 digital media reader

    Supports Secure Digital, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO, MultiMediaCard and xD-Picture Card formats for quick and easy digital photo access.

    IEEE 1394 (FireWire) interface and 4 high-speed USB 2.0 ports
    For fast digital video, audio and data transfer. Expansion port 3 and eSATA interfaces for additional connectivity.

    Built-in 10/100/1000 Mbps Gigabit Ethernet LAN with RJ-45 connector
    Along with 56 Kbps modem for flexible wired Web connectivity options.
    Weighs 7.1 lbs. and measures 1.7" thin
    For portable power.

    HP Fluid Imprint finish with flowing linear pattern
    Adds a stylish look to the laptop.

    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium Edition 64-bit operating system with Service Pack 1 (SP1) preinstalled
    Software package included with HP Photosmart Essentials, Mediasmart, muvee autoProducer Premium and more.
     
  13. Goshax

    Goshax Notebook Geek

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    guys were you able to use any coupons? i find i cant use ANYTHING on the hdx16t model, DV5T i can still use a 10% off but it wont work on on the 16t. any ideas? i want this lappy
     
  14. TheAtreidesHawk

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    There are currently NO coupons that can be applied to the 16t....

    Yeah it sucks...either way or buy now. I'm waiting for a coupon on the 18t or if the Quad Core option comes back up...
     
  15. Goshax

    Goshax Notebook Geek

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    i keep hearing there were mad coupons before like 500$ off and etc, does HP run that promotion month to month? any clue if they will go on sale this month closer to black friday?

    and who said they will have a quad CPU as an option. i figure if 18t got it so will 16t.

    man i sure as hell dont want to spend 1600$ on the model i want :(
     
  16. TheAtreidesHawk

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    There will be no quad core option for the 16t. Sorry if I confused you. I asked an HP sales rep and they told me that there would never be an option for a quad core option for the 16t. Now I don't want to get your hopes up but this is HP we're talking about and this is a sales agent that we're talking about. They do lie and I usually don't believe a word out of their mouth to be honest. But I honestly wouldn't hold out on the hope that they will offer such an option.

    As for coupons I don't know if there is any pattern to when HP releases them. There was a period where there were a LOT of coupons but I think that was to clear out their current stock of dv4ts, dv5ts, and dv7ts.

    There could be more coupons. Especially in this economy....

    And on another side note the HP sales rep I spoke also told me that the 16t will never have a dual hard drive option. I don't think it can support dual hard drives to begin with. I believe someone on this forum confirmed that for me.
     
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    yes, the battery. it is for production line only to start with.
     
  18. gizweb

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    I talked to HP, they said there is no slot for a second hard drive, thus, it only comes with one drive, and you can't add the second as in the DV9000T series.
     
  19. Goshax

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    sure hope there is a good sale, because at this point i am not wasting my money. and they would have so many more sales with having some coupons and etc, works out for both sides.

    but at the same time i need a laptop now, i dont want to wait until the 25th :(
     
  20. Capella1

    Capella1 Notebook Consultant

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    Well gang, I got mine yesterday and have to say I'm very pleased after messing with it for a couple of days.

    I went for the t9600cpu, added 4gb OCZ ram with a 4gig flash drive from newegg for 40bucks after mail in rebate, stuck with the 250gbHD (plan to swap it for a SSD next year), Blue ray, 1080display, etc. Did not get the TV tuner. Running Vista Home 64bit.

    Everything seems to work right. I updated video driver but WEI is still 5.1 (everything else is higher). Went through the Vista tweaks described elsewhere in these forums.

    Well, time to start moving files onboard - sigh.

    It is a really cool laptop!
     
  21. Goshax

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    what was your price OTD
     
  22. TheAtreidesHawk

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    I'm in the same boat. I really need a laptop but I'm tired of HP's usual bull****. Buy a laptop on day 1...then 3 days later HP brings up a new option. Then 3 days later HP has a coupon or w/e.

    I bought the 16t a few weeks ago when they only had the 3G option available. Then they brought out a 4G option. Quickly canceled the first order. I didn't reorder cuz I was pissed off and wanted to wait for them to credit back the first purchase to my account. And then a few days ago HP adds this longer lasting battery as well as a BIGGER hard drive...

    Who knows they'll probably soon have 7200 rpm hard drives available. I give up on understanding how HP operates.

    Why the sigh? Are you upset about the WEI score for your updated video driver? That's still a high score...
     
  23. Capella1

    Capella1 Notebook Consultant

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    I spent 2k, but that included 1yr warranty, Office home student, Bluetooth mouse, and state sales tax.

    Heres my two cents worth of purchasing advice. Don't get the big hardrive. If you need storage space, get an aftermarket 7200rpm drive. For me, I'm going with an SSD ASAP and relegate large storage needs to my home network drive. IMHO an Intel X25M SSD would make more of a performance improvement than the top CPU does.

    Also, save your money on the HP ram option and add your own like I did - saved 60bucks on 4gb and got a free flash drive with it too.

    Oh, I used a coupon code that yielded 100 off the already listed instant rebate.
     
  24. Capella1

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    Nah. The sigh is for the chore of moving my files over from my old system.
     
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    where are the vista teaks located at?
     
  26. TheAtreidesHawk

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    Lol oh okay!

    I was about to say....sounds like a great laptop. I hope you enjoy it a lot! I look forward to the day I own one of the HDXs...
     
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    Thanks for the tips....I am seriously considering this if the Quad Core option comes back up.
     
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    Look in the Software and OS section of this forum - it's a sticky.
     
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    Mine just got here! (Well, it's my girlfriend's, but y'know...)

    Either way, it's flippin' gorgeous. I haven't booted it up fully, because I'm preparing to wrestle with HP over the Vista refund. I'll keep posted on how it goes.
     
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    Still on hold.. they tried the whole "it's on your hard drive, you own it, you can't return it" bit. According to this site I still have a leg to stand on. Holding for a case manager.
     
  31. apowers

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    Wow. Just got off the phone with the case manager's supervisor, and he was extremely forceful and aggressive about not being able to refund Vista. I told him several times that I was looking at the license agreement RIGHT THERE that said that I was able to return it, but he kept asserting that "I knew it had Vista on it when I bought it" and that I wouldn't be able to return it.

    Looks like it's corporate number time.
     
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    I called the corporate office and spoke to Executive Customer Relations. The lady was SUPER nice and polite, even if she didn't fully understand the problem at hand. She used the ticket number and escalated it to a corporate case manager. Hopefully I'll hear back from them before too long.
     
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    What's the situation? Why are you trying to get a refund for Vista?
     
  34. apowers

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    I have my own copy of Vista, not to mention Ubuntu, that I'll be putting on the notebook instead. It's fine for them to roll Windows up into the price of the computer, but they should also offer refunds if you choose not to accept the EULA (like the agreement tells you you can).
     
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    Where are the EULA's (HP's and Microsoft's)??
     
  36. TheAtreidesHawk

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    Umm okay I highly doubt you'll win but if you're telling the truth then good luck to you.
     
  37. Adrian2323

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    Any comments on my specs please? Thanks
     
  38. lancorp

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    What kind of comments would you like? It's a basic HDX16t. They are very nice systems, just as many, many of us here have stated. I'm sure it will serve your purposes well.
     
  39. goVols

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    Did you do a clean install and what driver are you using? After I did a clean install my WEI dropped to 4.8 for the graphics. I installed the latest laptopVideo2go and it didn't change the score.
     
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    Same thing here...After fresh install the WEI fell to 4.8 instead of 5.1
     
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    Hey dudes.

    I'm interested in the HP Mobile ScrollSmart Remote Control that comes with thip laptop. I would like to know details of it and some close up photos of it. Can anyone direct me to a stupidly comprehensive review of this laptop with photos and details about the remote? And also whether it will work and fit in my dvt5 1050tx. Thanks
     
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    TO APOWERS:

    Why would you want to waste everyone's time? Whats the point of being a total ****?

    People like you make me sick, its the reason other people think of America as a bunch of spoiled little babies.
     
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    I did not do a clean install, but did remove bloatware and ran some of the Vista Tweaks shown in the Windows OS and Software forum on this site.

    I also installed the latest Nvidea driver but don't know what difference it made.

    For whatever reason, my graphics WEI has since dropped from 5.1 to 5.0, but this happened after I messed with the windows graphics options. I put it back to let windows decide but WEI did not go back up.
     
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    Wow, aggressively rude much?

    Consumers aren't given any choice in what operating system they have to run on their computer. If I wanted to downgrade to XP, or use Linux instead, or even heaven forbid my own Vista license, I'm free to - but only after paying for a copy of Windows Vista that's been rolled up in the price of the hardware. I understand that HP has to include an operating system with the computers, and that Microsoft has ensured that that operating system is Vista, but if they don't want to offer a wide-enough variety of OSes to suit their customers, then they should maintain a policy that allows for returning unwanted software. Microsoft's own EULA even states that if you don't accept the license, you can contact the manufacturer for a refund.

    I could understand calling and asking for a laptop without a screen, or trying to get a refund because I don't actually want a hard drive. I'm not trying to demand something that literally could not function without the part in question, or change their manufacturing process. I have the means and the ability to affect an intangible piece of software, and I'm simply asking for an administrative change on their end to reflect that.

    Dell allows it, many other laptop assemblers do it, and it makes a difference in the final price of the notebook. HP's refusal is motivated by nothing other than greed, and it's unfair to call me a **** (or whatever was behind those stars) for wanting to exercise my right as a consumer.
     
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    This is an interesting dilemma. If you buy a car with the intent to modify it albeit interior or exterior, are you entitiled to a refund for the parts that you don't want? I realize this is a different situation, but these computers are bundled with the OS and that's the way it is. I'm thinking that the EULA applies to a refund of the entire system, not just the OS itself. It would seem to me that if you configure and buy a notebook, you already know that the system is coming with Vista. And knowing that it comes with Vista, how can you complain later that you don't want it? The product has been presented to you, you accepted the presentation and purchased it, and now you want to alter the purchasing agreement. If you didn't want the OS you probably should have purchased from a vendor that would ship a blank system. Other vendor's may accomodate different buyers but clearly HP doesn't, so pursuing this further seems to be ignorant. Just my opinion.
     
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    I'm with you on this apowers. Corporations should not be allowed to step over consumers.

    And to anyone who is saying apowers is **** or watever or ignorant, you are just refusing your right to a product and bending over for the corporations.

    I think HP has patched the WEI for video to show higher score than it actually gets form Vista. It may be to show the machine has higher than 5.0 WEI overall.

    @Everyone who is frustrated about HP changing configurations everyday
    I agree with all of you. It is pretty frustrating that HP is pulling this **** on the new line. It's like every few days they have something different. I can understand monthly, but not every 3 days.

    I might end up returning my notebook after all. They are not price matching my exchange to my original purchase. The difference is not 20 or 30 dollars which I can handle but 240 dollars. My exchanged order has been put in wrong 3 times, so now I've got 1 order which successfully canceled, another one did not get canceled and shipped, along with the correct configuration for the exchange that shipped.

    They have all the notes on the account for the amount they need to credit me back for the exchange, but are not willing to do it. I might just end up calling corporate headquarters and asking them for a solution. If no go, I'll be returning my notebook sadly and moving to a different company permanently for all future laptop/desktop/printer needs no matter how good the deals HP is having.

    I would rather do business with a company which follows through their promises.
     
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    If you aren't happy with the corporation, why not just boycott them? I would guess that most consumers do not have an extra copy of Vista or XP laying around, so to accomodate the very few that do not want an OS installed doesn't make much sense cost wise.

    Furthermore, doesn't the EULA only allow for a purchased copy of vista to be installed on 1 system only? I believe there were complaints that MS also put in the EULA that any major component change like the MOBO would be considered a change in system and thus require the purchasing of another license. If that is correct, that would mean that you would could not just buy a copy of vista, and move that license over to another computer, even if you aren't using the old computer you originally installed it on. Now in your case, I'm not sure if you have or have not installed your copy of Vista on a computer already and I'm not going to make any assumptions, but I do wonder how many people here have a copy of vista that was never installed laying around.
     
  50. redmop

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    Can we take this EULA argument to another thread? It effects more than just the HDX16t, after all.
     
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