HP OMEN 15 and 17 owners lounge

The factory 512gb in my 2020 is a Samsung. I never thought to check. Which I'll do today after some gaming. I have a 2tb Samsung 970 Evo Plus coming. Now I just need to find out how to clone the drive. I'm worried if i go clean Win 10 Pro install some of the HP bios/stuff won't work right. I'll get to test if both NvME ports work. I'm figuring they will. When I went in to repaste one of the wire holding clips for where the charger port wire is held against the fan was broken already. Doesn't hurt performance/use at all. Just something that I remember from going in there.

 

I have a 2020 omen 17. It has two M2 slots and another for a standard 2.5 SSD or mechanical hard drive. My second M2 just doesn't work. Even if I take the factory M2 (Samsung) that came with it and put it into the second M2 slot the computer will not boot.

Spec is...
Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10750H
16GB SK Hynix 3200MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Super
Main Hard drive - SAMSUNG MZVLB512HBJQ-000H1 (M2 SSD 512GB)
Second Hard drive (storage) WDC WD10SPSX-60A6WT0 (7200 RPM 2TB)
System Board - 8748 05.30
System BIOS - F.14

 

Playing Rocket League for about 35min and temp max was 77*c. Going to try Warzone now.

 

Before you return it for warranty fix, try running samsung magician to see if it can see the original in the second slot

For imaging I use Macrium Reflect, its brilliant. I think the free version can clone a drive, it can make an image of a whole drive, not sure about clone but I have used it for years across different versions, never let me down.

I cloned my original to the new 1TB for the same reasons you say, and now use my original drive for holding games and having a seperate windows installation for work apps

 

That was one of the first things I tried. Believe it or not I got a HP tech on the phone and he said the port is probably locked out because it didn't come with anything in it.

I don't buy that. I think it's broken. I usually go through a motherboard or two during my laptop cycles (drops, falls, etc) so I will see at some point.

 

locked down I doubt it. If its phisically there, it should work. I never tested mine since I use the original 1 + an SSD on a Sata3 port where the HDD is supposed to be.
Try the M2 slot with a different brand of storage drive

 

Burrick with his i9-9880H 8 core CPU told me, that in his experience F.30 should be a BIOS that allows stable undervolting...

Is this surely the same with my 9750H - 6 core, and what is the latest BIOS version with my CPU, where undervolt is working correct and stable?



I stumbled about the following thread in the HP- forum, where the creator has problems to downgrade below F.30... can someone confirm this?

https://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Gaming-Notebooks/HOW-TO-DOWNGRADE-BIOS-FIRMWARE/td-p/7722014




Currently i am running a stable UV with Throttlestop under BIOS version F.16 and Windows pro 10 version 2004.

At the moment i am tending to upgrade to F.22 which is mentioned in some threads as a safe bet...



if am getting the "plundervolt fix" through updating my BIOS, and i have no option to downgrade, i have thermal problems during high CPU usage...

 

I finally got my new NVMe and can confirm both ports work. Swapping the OS drive to either launches and runs fine. I changed the heat pad out thought and bent the bracket some so it would actually contact the SSDs. It was bowing up and away like a rainbow of sorts. I used another 1mm pad though. I may order some 2mm. Drive never goes above 70 even when gaming. However Samsung software says too high at anything over like 50. LOL

 

Well I have been using the latest BIOS F33 REV.A on my Omen 17 with intel 9750H, and it was a perfect experience for me till now. Latest Win 10 updates.
No plundervolt fix for me.
Trottlestop works fine as always.
BTW, the amount of UV you get depends on your CPU/GPU lottery and has nothing to do with the bios version. I tried with 5 different Bios updates in the last year I owned the notebook, and my stable CPU undervolt limits are always the same.

Go for the latest F33 firmware, no problem. And If you need to rolback to your previous BIOS, I'm sure there I saw an option in the bios (pressing F2 at begining of boot if I remember correctly, you have the 'firmware managment' option). Inside there are bios UPDATE/ROLLBACK options, and you can rollback automatically to the previous bios you had installed or select one fron a USB stick.
Never needed it so I can't say how it works, but it should.

As for the thermal problems you are referring to, they are typical of the Intel CPU's. Mine should go up to 4500 mhz, but it doesn't it trottles because of heat. If you repasted correctly you should be able to hit 3.9-4.0 Ghz stable (unless you undervolted too much that is, thiese modern CPU's do a lot of things by themselfs based on voltage and temps).

 

Just got a used omen 17, 7700hq, 1070. I had a couple of questions. What are considered normal temps while gaming? On RDR2 etc locked to 60fps I've seen cpu 80c+ and gpu about the same, I raise the back while gaming on a hard surface. Sometimes the cpu gets into low 90c range too.
-There is some noticeable light bleed, not really an issue but I do notice it, does bleed get worse over time?

 

Hi guys! I am thinking about buying an Omen 17 2020, with a RTX 2070 card.
HP have opened the possibility to lower the voltage, or is this function still blocked?

 

On my RTX2070 from 10/2019 you can lower the GPU voltage using MSI afterburner. I actually have it lovered right now a little bit. I don't think HP is blocking it on other models.

If I remember correctly, the function was disabled (greyed out) by default in MSI,..... but you could enable it with a specific procedure. It's been a while so don't quote me on this but if I remembrer correctly its the function 'enable low-level hardware access interface' (user mode) and 'u nlock voltage control' (third party) under the GENERAL TAB in MSI settings.
This way MSI can track your voltage and modify/apply it using your settings.

 

Well the problem of Intel CPU high-temps is a well known problem in all notebooks, unless you use liquid metal to cool the beasts
Just Set CPU multiplier to something a little lower. Most games aren't CPU bottlenecked but GPU is the main limit in most of them.
Have you tried to undervolt CPU e GPU.
Repasted recently?

 

I probably didn't put it that way, I meant undervolting the processor. On models with I7 10750H

 

Sorry my mistake, I supposed you were talking about GPU. As for the CPU I can't help since I have gen9 wich is OC enabled

 

No I havn't done any of that, I did go in and set max cpu state at 99%. I'm avoiding tearing this down to repaste though since it looks like a lot of work. I'm assuming throttlestop would be used for undervolting?

 

It's actually SUPER easy. I am a complete amateur and had my notebook disassembled for a repaste and then reassembled in a little over an hour. HP built this notebook to be taken apart easily.

 

Yeah I did take off the back and look at it, get dust off and I do have to say it is a lot easier than a precision m6700, much less small screws and stuff. Looks like the heatsink can be pulled off for both cpu/gpu at once. One bad thing about this model though is that you can't easily change the keyboard, this one's keyboard has about 15 keys that have to be banged on pretty hard to get them to work so I'm still wondering if I want to keep this or send it back via ebay returns. I did get a wireless mouse/keyboard and just use that though. For the price I got it for it's still pretty good deal. It also needs a new battery but this would only ever be plugged in so I can put that off.

 

Yes use trottlestop, it worls like a charm for me.
Look online for the most common undervolting levels for your CPU model and start from there or a little bit less for safety and test it out. Also remember to set CPU multiplier down 3-400 mhz, it will actually make your CPU faster because it will run at that speed most of the time (if temp are ok) and even stop overheating.

As for the repaste, I am no electrician but I assure you on my model it is very easy to open the back part, remove HDD/SDD & RAM & the heatsink and repaste. I did it in less than 30 minutes probably

 

Stop overheating yes. Make your cpu faster no, it'll be slower.

The best option would be to repaste to stop overheating and then let the cpu run at its maximum speed.

 

I don't think it's overheating for heavy gaming around 80-85c cpu and the same for the gpu I was just wondering if that's what temps you guys get or if that's normal for these laptops. The weird thing is that I only play at high settings 1080p limited to 60fps and get the same temps on Witcher 3 which only uses about half the gtx 1070 in msiafterburner, as when I play RDR2 which uses 80% or more of the gpu, you would think an old game like TW3 and lower usage would result in lower temps but not so. 7700hq.

 

I don't mean to spam this forum but I tried the general hp forum and got no replies. OK Omen 17, 7700hq, 1070, 1080p 120hz. This used item has a few problems I'm wondering about to return or not.

1. About 15 keyboard keys don't work under normal typing pressure, usually if I hold down HARD or bang on it they will work. If I take off the key itself and press the switch it usually works ok. Any ideas about getting those working? I know you can't easily swap out the kb in this model. I do have a wireless kbm that I'm just using atm. Anyhing?

2. Battery comes up bad per hp diagnostics. I don't plan on using this huge thing unplugged however so it can wait if at all.

3. Backlight bleed. It's much more noticeable when the laptop is under load and hot, leading me to believe that heat is the main culprit, normal non-gaming use it's not too noticeable as it's around the taskbar and the sides not as bad. Will this get worse over time? This is I'm guessing from 2016-17 so it's been through it's paces.

 

if keys have problems than I would return it or ask for a replacement keyboard.
Btw, it they are working by pressing hard on them , it could be just dust or other things that got unederneath some keys? Have you tired to clean it? Its pretty long to disassemble, but an easy solution could be to usa some pressure air canisters and see if it works..

 

I have a return label for shipping but I'm just wanting to try and see if it's something I can work on, or just use the wireless kbm for a while. It was a really good deal for what I got and it has performed in games really well. It's about 15 letters and some others than have to be pressed really hard. I did take off the "G" key and work on it, works fine now so maybe I can try that on the others.

 

Looking to purchase the HP Omen 17t from HP's website. Can get it with the 2080 Super for $1718 before tax, which seems like a great deal.

The only display option is: 17.3" diagonal FHD 144 Hz IPS anti-glare WLED-backlit (1920 x 1080)

A few questions for the community:
1) Does it always come with G-Sync? It's not advertised on HP's website
2) What is the response time of the display?
3) The PSU advertised is 200W. Does HP give you a larger one if you purchase the 2080 Super? Wouldn't 200W limit the performance?

Thank you!

 

My 2020 17t-cb100 with 2080 Super (150w) and i9-10885H came with a 330w brick.

 

I just found out my OMEM Command center was just updated and renamed to OMEN Gaming Hub. Now it has support for undervolting for my 9th gen Intel (and apparently for 10th gen too!)
If you can't see it, look in Microsoft Store and if it doesn't work consider updating your bios.

 

FYI: I finally got thru on HP chat and this was their response to these questions when purchasing directly from HP. I'm kind of bummed about the no G-Sync.

1) Does it always come with G-Sync? It's not advertised on HP's website
HP: no G-Sync

2) What is the response time of the display?
HP: usually 5ms

3) The PSU advertised is 200W. Does HP give you a larger one if you purchase the 2080 Super? Wouldn't 200W limit the performance?
HP: 200W power supply even when purchasing the 2080 super

4) For the Omen 17t cb100, is there any difference between the "8VD66AV_1" and "17H47AV_1" product codes besides the options you configure in the Customize section? Are they both the 2020 version of the Omen 17t? It looks like the 8VD66AV_1 version just gives you more options in the customizer (more lower tier options available)
HP: The only difference is that the 17H47AV_1 have better base specs with more configuration option than the 8VD66AV_1.

 

@BlodyMonky

I don't understand what that HP chat agent is talking about. I ordered the 8VD66AV_1 which shipped a 2020 17t-cb100 with a i9-10885H & 2080 Super and G-Sync on a 1080p 144hz CMN175D display. Now mine was a lot more than your price. Im not sure how it shows a 2080 Super under $2500 in any configuration. I ended up at $3018 but they sent it with a minor minor gouge on it. So I got another $320 off. $2700. People say 5-7ms on the screen. It is not noticable.

 

@OneSickOmen17t

Thank you. I decided to speak with another agent after you posted your comment.
Looks like it does include G-Sync, but depends on which configuration. The agent linked me a guide that included this information:

Intel Core i9-9880H processor and 8 GB of discrete graphics memory (GeForce RTX 2080; G-Sync)L59778-xx1
Intel Core i7-9750H processor and 8 GB of discrete graphics memory (GeForce RTX 2080; G-Sync)L59777-xx1
Intel Core i7-9750H processor and 8 GB of discrete graphics memory (GeForce RTX 2070; G-Sync)L59776-xx1
Intel Core i7-9750H processor and 6 GB of discrete graphics memory (GeForce RTX 2060)L59775-xx1
Intel Core i7-9750H processor and 6 GB of discrete graphics memory (GeForce GTX 1660Ti)L59774-xx1
Intel Core i7-9750H processor and 4 GB of discrete graphics memory (GeForce GTX 1650)L59772-xx1
Intel Core i5-9300H processor and 6 GB of discrete graphics memory (GeForce GTX 1660Ti)L59773-xx1

To answer your question on the price, HP is knocking a couple hundred off the price for Black Friday right now. That combined with me only electing for the 10750H processor and the fact that HP's 10% off Holiday code works in conjunction with their Black Friday sale....you can get pretty nice discounts right now.

 

I purchased my notebook about this time last year. The discounts were incredible. Make sure you check cashback websites as well.

Anyways, I'm running a RTX 2080 with the 200w vbios and i7-9870H -150mv undervolt.

After a repaste last week I must be consuming more than 330w while playing BFV. My battery charge slowly declines (about -1%/10min) while I'm plugged into an outlet with a 330w power supply on performance mode lol

 

@gatewayfx

Did you purchase directly from HP's website? I've asked two different HP agents and gotten the same answer: all HP Omen 17t cb100 laptops come with a 200W PSU, even when ordering the RTX 2080 Super (the 200W power supply is enough for the highest specs they say).

I'm guessing they're both wrong and it really comes with a 330W, but it's frustrating that I keep getting the "200W" answer from them.

 

Any 2080 Super should come with the 330w charger. Even seen ones with the i7 come with it. Not just i9/2080 Super combo like mine. Remember these are full size cards 150w. There is also a vbios reflash of 190w or 200w. Although that is not HP OEM genuine vbios.

 

Yes only GTX2070 & 280 have G-Sync. That's a known fact from previous 2019 Omen models.

 

My OMEN 17" with RTX2070 (2019) comes with a 230W powebrick wich is more than enough. So 2080 comes with at least that, if not more.
Whatever is, the powerbrick that comes with your model will be adequate for it to work at full performance (exept for modded GPU vbios, but that is not a HP problem).

 

New BIOS ( F.35 Rev.A) is out for my OMEN-17, 2019 model

- Provides improved security.
- Provides improved system stability.
- Provides support for systems running Windows v10 20H2.

Anyone tested it yet?

 

Hi guys

Do you know for an alternative screen fro my hp omen



15-dh0013nm laptop

au optronics b156han08.2 screen

Can be 60 hz as well or 120...

Thx

 

I'm pleased to report that F35 and all other available updates seem to work together pretty well. Nice new feature: Omen Command Center is now Omen Gaming Hub, and the inoperative overclocking tab is now Undervolting. It includes a automatic setting which works well. I had to reduce my -.125 to -.10 after Windows 2004 for some reason, and it's still stable after all these updates. The OGH automatic process rebooted a few times (have to log in each time) until it crashed, and it settled on -.08V which I suppose is pretty conservative. I'm still using Throttlestop only to turn on SpeedShift to reduce idle load and my gaming mode 38X multiplier limit to keep temps under 90 while the 2080 is spooled up. Oh, and if you're wondering, it's undervolting core and cache together, as reported in other utilities.

Another winner: Omen Light Studio gives significantly more control over the keyboard lighting, which I was missing. Breathe, wave, there's quite a lot to play with. The OGH lighting tab will redirect you to this.

HP impressed me with this one and it's a very nice improvement to the functionality of this machine.

I will ask anyone who knows so I don't have to check: I did update Nvidia to 457.30. Have people gotten the USB-C display adapters working yet? Now that the machine is a year old and I know how to keep CPU temps under control, I may become more interested in the 190W vBIOS mod.

 

Okay, problem with my original post: It turns out that OCC had always been Performance mode 90W continuous. Now, it's 90W, 28 sec, fall back to 65W. Terminating OGH allows it to be brought back to steady 90W with XTU. Since I need OGH for the fan control, I'm going to try disabling the underlying xtu service it uses and then revert back to throttlestop only. I'll update as it develops.

 

I've updated mu BIOS to F.35 too. All is well.

On a side note, the automatic undervolting option in Omen Gaming Hub (OGH) is pretty garbage.....it only puts my CPU on a -0.75 V (probably a standard HP setting?).
I have been undervolting my 9750H up to -0.144 mV and it has always been rock-stable for over a year now.
So I reverted back to ubdervolting using TS and I would raccomend all to do the same if they want CPU temperatures under control.

 

Well NoteboFanControl works with my OMEN 17, so you could try that option. But you will lose the function botton 'full speed fans' in OGH while NFC is enabled.

 

How did you get it working? I tried and tried, someone posted here or in the vBIOS mod thread with a link to a functioning version but no joy for me.

 

I just set a custom in the OGH of -0.115v.

 

Unfortunately my CPU seems to like undervolting 'CPU core' better as opposed to 'CPU cache'.
And since OGH undervolts them together (not separately), that is probably why I only get -0.75V automatic undervolt in my case. The weaker link in the chain (CPU cache) is to blame probably.
But for me it's no problem really, I will just continue using TS for undervolting since it allows me to undervolt the 2 parameters separately. Thus I can get a pretty good -1.44V on my 'CPU core', which is the one I need most to keep the temperatures down.ù

Every CPU is different so I suggest everyone to experiment a little to find the best undervolt option TS/OGH

 

As far as I am aware there is no specific option for my HP model (OMEN 17-cb00092nl, from 2019) in NFC.
I tried many and I did find 1 that works. Unfortunately I don't remember specifically which it was, and I since renamed the file to my model in order to easily find it if necessary.
BUT i'm not the author and unfortunately I can't tell you who to credit specifically :/
For me it's certainly nice to have the possibility for a more 'agressive' fan option in NFC while gaming, as it help with the notebook temps & cooling, expecially during summer months.

I've uploaded the file so you may try it out on your model. Remember to copy it into your NFC installation directory (in my case c:\programs x86\NotebboFancontrol\Configs), to select & apply the specific fan configuration, and to set fan control status to ENABLED. Hope it works for you as it does for me!

 

Thanks! I'll try it out.

 

It doesn't work that way. The core and cache are linked

 

Could you elaborate what you were reffering to exactly? If I use OGH to undervolt, it does so for both core and cache (linked). BUT if I use TS, I CAN undervolt Core and Cache CPU (separately).
I tested it with HWmonitor (version 1.42) and it clearly shows separate undervolting for core/cache under TS.

P.S. you can undervolt CPU core by much more (like someone said), BUT this will result in less CPU speed (because modern CPU/GPU's automatically adjust/limits the max Ghz achivable if there is not enough voltage, to keep the system stable I belive). So too much undeevolting will result in less heat BUT also less speed. You need to find the right balance probably.

 

It works, thank you very much. So now that the light studio is separate, I can conceivably run without OGH at all which is good. Disabling the xtu service underneath it seems to allow Throttlestop almost free reign, but the OGH performance buttons still affect PL1/2 and the turbo timer as well which is not good (that's a new, unwanted addition).

 

I have some questions about HP OMEN laptops.
1) Does any Omen owner experienced battery drain issue (up to 7% per day) when laptop is off as I discribed here.
2) What is 17 vs 17t difference? Is it Max-Q version or display 144Hz version related?
3) What are official mods one can try on his Omen 17 laptop? I think I will send battery to the 3rd party shop for cell replacement if HP doen't have official take on the subject...

PS On that link I mention funny issue I had in 2017 with ESD on Omen 15 so someone might find it helpfull.