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    HP Pavilion dv8000t

    Discussion in 'HP' started by existentist, Mar 10, 2006.

  1. chameleon

    chameleon Notebook Enthusiast

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    just ordered this on Monday
    estimated ship date of 12th
    i also ordered 2 pc2-5300 1GB chips of mem from newegg for it

    - HP Pavilion dv8000t CTO NB
    - Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Media Center Edition
    - Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo processor T2500 (2.0 GHz)
    - 17.0" WSXGA+ BrightView Widescreen (1680x1050)
    - 256MB NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) Go 7400
    - 512MB DDR2 SDRAM (2x256MB)
    - 160 GB 5400 RPM SATA Dual Hard Drive (80 GB x 2)
    - LightScribe 8x DVD+/-RW&CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer
    - Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network w/Bluetooth
    - No TV Tuner w/remote control
    - 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    - Microsoft(R) Works/Money
    - Windows(R) XP Media Center Edition Backup CD
    - HP Mobile Remote Control
     
  2. ShellBullet

    ShellBullet Notebook Guru

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    Ok I have another question on the HP customizer site it has

    17.0" WSXGA+ BrightView Widescreen (1680x1050)
    17.0" WXGA+ Ultra BrightView Widescreen (1440x900)

    Why does the ultrabrightview have less resolution (is this some kind of error?) and is it better to have the brightview or the ultrabrightview?
     
  3. chameleon

    chameleon Notebook Enthusiast

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    the brightview at the higher res is correct, the "ultra" has another backlight in it, it is lower res
     
  4. ShellBullet

    ShellBullet Notebook Guru

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    Oh so which one is really better for ya in general, the more res or better lighting?
     
  5. WeAreNotAlone

    WeAreNotAlone Notebook Deity

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    I believe Chrish is mistaken, the Dv8000 series has the option to take two hard drives. The controller is already supposed to be installed.

    The manual dated Fed-2006 below talks about a "Hard Drive Frame" in section 5.4 entitled Hard Drive. (On page 5.8 is a picture, You guys look at that picture and tell me how much that "frame" adds to the cost of a $1,600 item. (answer, about 1 cent or less)

    If HP is shipping the dv8000t without that second hard drive "frame" I'm going to be pissed because I ordered mine without the second hard drive with the express purpose of purchasing the second hard drive itself later.

    (Hopefully about a 250 gig about a year or so from now, for about the same price as a 100 gig is going for now.)

    Here's the:
    dv8000(z) series HP Maintance and Service Manual dated Nov-2005 : http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00554540.pdf

    dv8000 series HP Maintance and Service Manual dated Feb-2006: http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00637497.pdf

    Still not upated with all the dv8000t specs, but closer than the Nov-2005 version...


    If someone has information that states OR "knows" if the "frame" is installed in the hd bay already please do post.

    ( Translation,,, for you guys that have already received a dv8000t, shipped with (1) drive installed, turn the unit off, remove the battery, then remove the (3) screws that hold the hard drive cover on and LOOK inside and post back what you "see". (Verify that the controler /connections of the second drive is already installed, frame for second hard drive is "there")

    I'll tell you this though, if a second hard drive can not be installed by just the purchase of a bare drive and I have to go thru HP, jumping thru hoops to purchase the missing "frame" I"m not going to be a happy camper and will for each day I own the product NOT refer anyone who may be interested in purchasing a HP to do so. I'm the type that if I'm happy with a product I promote it, ditto if I'm not happy, except in a negative way.


    PS: Assuming the "frame" isn't there, If someone has a part number for that frame post the part number and instructions on how the heck a customer is supposed to purchase one with being ripped off!!!!

    That hd frame at most probally costs less than a penny to make...

    In closing let me ask you guys this:

    Who else here would feel like it's a rip-off to purchase this model that is purposely built to take (2) hard drives and expects when the time comes to be able to purchase a "bare" drive, remove the (3) screws holding on the hard drive cover, Lossen the (2) hard drive frame retention screws(page 5.7), remove the frame.... then install the drive to the drive frame (4 screws), slide hd/frame in, re-install the (2) hard drive frame screws, install the cover, the three cover screws, install the battery, power the unit on, go into the bios... and then be able to see /format /use that "second" drive?...

    Without having to hunt down and purchase the hard drive "frame"?
     
  6. WeAreNotAlone

    WeAreNotAlone Notebook Deity

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    From the posts I've read the (1680x1050) gives you more screen "real-estate". Enables you to have (2) apps, webpages, etc side by side and not have to scroll up and down as much,

    I ordered my dv8000t with the:

    17.0" WSXGA+ BrightView Widescreen (1680x1050)


    The 17.0" WXGA+ Ultra BrightView Widescreen (1440x900) is the SAME screen as the regular brightview except it has an 2nd lamp at the TOP of the screen... Instead of (1) which is installed along the bottom of the screen .

    Pro's:

    1: Gives more even lighting... and of course is slighty "brighter".
    2: When One lamp burns out, 1 remains, but due to the design of the ballast it may "have" to have that 2-nd lamp to work correctly.. So this may not be a "pro". Most ballasts are matched to the LOAD... One lamp burns out and the load is differant...


    Cons:

    1: Trade off on the dual lamp "UltraBright" option is decreased battery life.
    2: Two lamps to replace instead of (1) when the time comes.
    3: Decreased resolution of (1440x900)

    I think HP should do a better "job" in explaining the options, which screen would be best... giving examples of the differant screen types, showing the uses there-of. Why you would want one screen type over another besides the marketing double-talk about one being better for movies...
     
  7. Orlando_Doug

    Orlando_Doug Newbie

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    So what do you think about the "HP Express Repair extended service plans "? Generally I don't get them but this is my first laptop. Won't be traveling much with it.
     
  8. monkeysings

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    Hi WeAreNotAlone, and all,

    I am bit bewildered about your statement "when the time comes to replace the backlight lamp".

    Is the LCD screen worn out easily after a few years of usage, at least to my knowledge the CRT monitor last 3 years minimum, while the LCD may last up twice of that age. I personally would rather opt for something that would last longer..

    Please enlight me on this matter. I hope the Hp would provide the same option too in the widescreen lappy..

    cheer
     
  9. CHDinCT

    CHDinCT Notebook Enthusiast

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    Anyone having random lockups and re-booting of their dv8000t? Received mine about a week ago and everything seems fine with it plugged in. Never crashes or freezes and it will go into and out of standby and hibernation fine when on AC.

    When on battery power, it invariably freezes and then sometimes reboots on its own. If it goes into hibernation on battery power, I can't get it to come back without a hard reboot - holding the power button down. Any help with what could cause this would be appreciated.

    And by the way, I ordered the dv8000z version first and returned it. I did open the HD bay on that to see if it had the bracket for the 2nd HD and it did not. I checked the HP parts listing for this rig and no HD bracket was listed. BUT, you could by a second HD with bracket aftermarket from HP for something like $300 big ones. No thanks.

    Will also add I got the ultrabright with the "t" version vs the regular brightview in the "z". The ultrabright is awesomely bright. When on battery power, I can set it all the way down and still see the screen no problem. On AC, you almost can't take full brightness.

    Chris
     
  10. sonystylejoe

    sonystylejoe Newbie

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    Sup everyone, a HP case manager just ordered me one of these notebooks, im pretty excited but i had no say in my config of the system so i got some questions for everyone and i would really be thankful for any help with them.

    OK HERE WE GO

    MY SYSTEM:

    - HP Pavilion dv8000t
    - Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Pro SP2
    - Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo processor T2600 (2.16 GHz)
    - 17.0" WSXGA+ ultra BrightView Widescreen
    - 256MB NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) Go 7400
    - 1 gig DDR2 SDRAM
    - 80 GB 5400 RPM SATA
    - LightScribe 8x DVD+/-RW&CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer
    - Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network w/Bluetooth
    - 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    - HP Mobile Remote Control

    MY QUESTIONS
    I heard other people buying memory from new egg...i took a gander and found:
    CORSAIR ValueSelect 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Unbuffered System Memory Model VS1G667D2 - Retail
    Corsair …good brand??? Will this memory work with my system??? Its only 149…that almost scares me its such a good deal.
    Is it worth it to go from 1 gig to 2 gigs? Because I know the vid card is gonna use 128 so I was thinking it would be for any type of gaming???

    Also because the only **** hard drives they offer are 5400 I really want to stripe them with raid for speed increase if I were to buy a hard drive off of new egg as well would it have to be the EXACT same speed? Or brand? Or everything? I don’t know what raid needs to function…if you are answering this question could you please tell me exactly what hard drive I should get from new egg or any where for that matter to upgrade.

    Thanks for your time everyone I hope I wasn’t too anoying
     
  11. Coffeedrinka3000

    Coffeedrinka3000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    hey everyone.

    I'm planning on buying a dv8000t from costco with these specs

    -Windows XP Media Center
    -Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo processor T2400 (1.83 GHz)
    -533MHz DDR2 SDRAM
    -NVIDIA® GeForce® Go 7400 with 256MB of video memory (128MB of dedicated and 128MB of shared video memory)
    -17.0" WXGA+ BrightView Widescreen (1440x900)
    -1.0GB DDR2 SDRAM (2x512MB)
    -200 GB 5400 RPM SATA Dual Hard Drive (100 GB x 2)
    -DVD+/-RW/R CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer

    do you think a machine with these specs could run World of Warcraft pretty well?

    do you think it will run Battlefield 2?
     
  12. Merkaba

    Merkaba Notebook Geek

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    it will run Wow at max everything fine.

    it can run BF2 but at like med or low settings
     
  13. Coffeedrinka3000

    Coffeedrinka3000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    awesome, thanks a bunch!
     
  14. chameleon

    chameleon Notebook Enthusiast

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    I ordered my laptop last Monday -- it just shipped this morning from china -- waiting for delivery
     
  15. Coffeedrinka3000

    Coffeedrinka3000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    I've been reading this forum and you guys have been talking about how the graphics card is 128mb dedicated and 128mb shared. so what does this really mean when it comes to playing a game? does it mean that its only as good as a 128mb graphics card? is there a way of making the shared 128mb dedicated to video?
     
  16. ShellBullet

    ShellBullet Notebook Guru

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    I "think" what they are saying is its a 128 graphics card that uses an extra "128" from your own system so its 256...maybe? anyone wanna clear that up?
     
  17. anirudhn

    anirudhn Notebook Enthusiast

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    The Nvidia Go 7400 on my dv8000t says it has 512 MB memory! There's no way to find out if that's physical memory or 128MB physical + 384MB from system RAM. There's no way to change the configuration too.
     
  18. WeAreNotAlone

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    I was just pointing out than on the ultra brightview that it has (2) lamps instead of one. Because of such the replacement costs being double of the single lamped version.

    FYI on the "lamps". They do go bad more so in a laptop than a desktop due to the fact laptops are portable, are carried around, moved from place to place, going from HOT to COLD, sometimes get left in a hot, or cold car.

    They aren't going to last as long as the exact same lamp, lcd screen used in say a desktop display.
     
  19. Sledgehammer70

    Sledgehammer70 Notebook Consultant

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    Well from what I have seen the 8000t has had a few revisions since it's release/ Hp seems to be constatly making them better. below is the specs of my new 8000t which have been running all my games perfectly along with apps such as Photoshop and 3Ds Max 8.0....

    HP Pavilion dv8000t CTO NB
    - Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo processor T2600 (2.16 GHz)
    - 17.0" WSXGA+ BrightView Widescreen (1680x1050)
    - 256MB NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) Go 7400
    - 2.0GB DDR2 SDRAM (2x1024MB)
    - 200 GB 5400 RPM SATA Dual Hard Drive (100 GB x 2)
    - DVD+/-RW/R CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer
    - Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network w/Bluetooth
    - TV Tuner w/remote control
    - 8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery

    I'm just wondering what the comparison is between the T2600 and the T2500 Duo's ? not in physical difference but in performance.

    To address the graphics Nvidia has about 16 versions of the 7400 ranging form 128MB to 512Mb of memory. The current models use 256MB onboard memory, as the first version only had 128MB with the option to cut into your system memory. the current card is actually better than the one sold back in March...

    Also I want to note, I am very happy with Hp support... from the start to finish they have been nothing but helpful, and on my order it took 6 days to et my Laptop in my hands... now that is a pretty dang good turn around.
     
  20. chanchaic

    chanchaic Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi there, I'm a new member here

    I recently have just got myself a DV8000 (DV8205TX) in Malaysia.

    Spec:
    -Windows XP Home SP2
    -Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo processor T2400 (1.83 GHz)
    -1.0GB DDR2 SDRAM (2x512MB)
    -533MHz DDR2 SDRAM
    -Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network w/Bluetooth
    -NVIDIA® GeForce® Go 7400 with 256MB of video memory
    -17.0" WXGA+ BrightView Widescreen (1440x900)
    -80 GB 5400 RPM SATA Dual Hard Drive (80 GB x 1)
    -DVD+/-RW/R CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer
    -8 Cell Lithium Ion Battery

    and yes I do face some issue which are familliar to what have been posted here as well...

    So I decided to send an email to HP and here is their reply...

    In regards to the 'nVidia GeForce 7400' Video Memory, being advertise as Discrete 256MB... But show in Notebook System as 512MB

    HP said:
    This is to inform you that integrated graphics controller of the notebook has a dedicated 128MB sideport memory and the notebook also uses shared video memory up to 256MB or 512MB.
    It follows the criterion of sharing 128MB for systems with 512MB system RAM or more in the same pattern, therefore your notebook shows shared video memory to 512MB and it is not user configuration; it is dedicated memory.​

    So I reconfirm them:
    - So am I right to say that the [nVidia GeForce 7400] install in my notebook, is indeed DEDICATED with 128MB of Video Memories?
    - With also that [nVidia GeForce 7400] have ADDITIONAL abilities to share additional memories from system RAM [ranging up to 256mb to 512mb]?
    - So the reason my notebook show total avaliable Graphic Memories of 512mb is indeed means, 128MB dedicated from [nVidia GeForce 7400] & 384MB Share from system RAM?​

    - If the above 3 statements are correct, Is it possible for me to adjust / config the memory being share on the System RAM? The current BIOs install have no function of changing this...​






    • So with this anyone care to share their thought on my basical understanding of what HP had reply me?
    • Is my reconfirmation correct (my understanding from what they reply me)?
    • Did HP give me the correct informations? Based on real facts?
    • Will keep you update of what HP will reply me


    Well just for your info:
    I actually bought a DV4000 (DV4208TX) before this...

    Spec:
    -Windows XP Home SP2
    -Intel(R) Pentium M processor (1.86 GHz)
    -1.0GB RAM (2x512MB)
    -Wireless BG Network w/Bluetooth
    -ATI x700 with 128MB of video memory
    -15.4" WXGA+ BrightView Widescreen
    -80 GB 4200 RPM
    -DVD+/-RW/R CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer
    -6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery

    and within 3 days later, I found out that DV8205TX is avaliable with just abit toping up of cash... I nearly cried... as when i read the spec I realize that the DV8205TX comes with nVidia Go7400 with 256MB!!!

    So what I did was ask HP nicely to help me out and indeed I was able to get a DV8205TX with the return of DV4208TX and toping up abit more
    to get... Bigger Screen / Full size Keyboard / Duo Processer / Wireless ABG / and best of all a 256MB Graphic Card for futher Gaming Experience....

    But when I got it, I first check up the Graphic Memories in the System, to my surprise it shows 512MB Video Memories!!!

    So I look at the box it shows... Dicrete 256MB of Video Memories...

    So that's when I decided to ask HP of the actual Video Memories, as I hope I did the right thing in returning the DV4208TX with ATI x700 128MB Dedicated for this nViDia GeForce 7400.....

    • Anyone care to comment on my decisions? deeply appriciated...
     
  21. chanchaic

    chanchaic Notebook Enthusiast

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    Another Case which I launch to HP...

    Is regarding of the Additional HardDisk Frame / Tray, that is missing...

    HP said:
    you can install another hard disk drive in the notebook of maximum up to 120GB. There is a slot for the separate hard drive in the Notebook case.​

    So I ask back:
    - But there are no TRAY for me to use with the Additional hard disk that I want to install. From when I look at the HardDisk bay there are 2 BAYs.
    One is taken by the Pre-Install HardDisk since I bought the notebook [Which includes both HARDDISK & TRAY]
    Another is EMPTY with no TRAY , just an empty space with the connector
    - If a TRAY is needed for this operation of [additonal HardDisk],
    Where could I get one? HP Malaysia doesn't have them, How can I made order?
    Why doesn't HP provide them since when the notebook was made?


    - Additionally, If this goes right and I manage to obtain a TRAY from you...
    What kind of HardDisk can I use? Assuming I will get the 120GB HardDisk, Do I need to check the MAX RPM that will support by the notebook? or other specifications which will be needed to have the HardDisk run smoothly in my notebook ​

    • Will keep you guys update of futher progress and updates.....
    • I welcome all feedback and comment, please do so... Thanks
     
  22. chanchaic

    chanchaic Notebook Enthusiast

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    Another Issue which I ask HP is this...

    The Partition created by HP for Recovery purposes... I can't be bother to burn a DVD and would rather leave it there as for the time being... But due to the fact HP created the size of the partition just close to the actual size of the Recovery files... Which make the window think the Drive to FULL (as only 3MB Free space there)... So it's very annoying getting all the Warning message for "Drive D is out of space"... So I ask HP...

    HP said:
    this "Drive D is out of space" notification can not disabled, this is a auto generated windows popup message of Windows operating system.​

    I ask back:
    - So it CANNOT be disabled... But it's very irritating seeing it poping up everytime I turn on the notebook
    - Please comment to HP they should at least leave enough space so that windows wouldn't be Generating windows popup messages.
    - I really hope HP can do something about this, Can I increase the partition space? If can How do I do it? As if I increase another 500mb to a Gig might solve the issue...​

    • I welcome all feedback and comment and also suggestions... Thanks
     
  23. Coffeedrinka3000

    Coffeedrinka3000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    see this is what I dont get about the graphics card. if its using a dedicated 128mb from the card and 384mb from the RAM, does that mean when your running a game you only have 640mb of ram? because in that case it wouldnt be much better than what I have now, which is 512mb of ram
     
  24. DrewN

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    16 versions? LOL wrong--there has only ever been one version of the 7400--128 MB dedicated and optional 128MB shared, which was sold by HP on day one. If you have evidence otherwise, I'd love to see it.

    There is absolutely no such thing as a 512MB 7400, it is likely a BIOS issue everyone's experiencing, although I can't really say for sure since I'm STILL waiting for my laptop purchased back on 3/7 :mad:

    Yeah, HP Support is great if you don't have a problem with your laptop :rolleyes:
     
  25. DrewN

    DrewN Notebook Evangelist

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    The X700 is a better video card than the 7400. Video memory is only partly responsible for a video card's performance--Memory interface and the GPU itself makes a video card better -- IIRC the x700 has a 128 bit interface and that alone wll make the x700 faster. The 7400 is crippled with a 64bit memory interface--from what I've read here the 7400 will play most modern games at medium res OK, but definitely not as well as x700.

    Now I'm praying my laptop's a lemon so I can haggle with my Case Manager for a Compaq nx9420 as a replacement -- the x1600 would kick ***!
     
  26. Sledgehammer70

    Sledgehammer70 Notebook Consultant

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    Nvidia has made over a dozen different versions of the 7400 Go series graphic card... Mainly for different vendors laptops specific setups. These cards do not have major differences in them besides the layout and memory size. Ranging from 128MB to 512MB "using shared and onboard memory in the 256 versions"

    As I don't have net specific proof I am sure I could get a list from the office.

    I run BF2 on Medium / High settings, BFME2 on Ultra High, and Oblivion on Medium / High settings

    When it comes to the X700 you also have 3 choices... which ATI doesn't say much about. You said the card has 128 bit interface which is right, but they also make the card in a 64 bit and a crippling 32 bit interface... So I guess you just need to make sure you get the right one.
     
  27. anirudhn

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    Guys, here are some screenshots of system info from my dv8000t. Looks like Go 7400 has 128 + 384 MB config.

    What's your opinion?
     

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  28. DrewN

    DrewN Notebook Evangelist

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    Hmm, interesting, looks like the Turbocache tech in the 7400 is allowing use of system memory up to 384MB. A 512MB 7400 with 128MB dedicated, imagine that!

    The main quesion is, however, how do you knock it back down to 256? And someone like Sledgehammer give me a screenshot showing me a 256MB dedicated 7400. That would really tick the early adopters off! Good job Nvidia!
     
  29. Otis

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    I'm thinking of buying this laptop from Best Buy. I'm not sure if this is a dv8000t or not because they gave it a weird model number (dv8235nr) and call it "Hewlett-Packard Pavilion Media Center Notebook w/Intel® Centrino® Duo Mobile Technology". I'm new at this, can you tell? Anyways, is this a good buy or not? The price is $1,649.99.

    - Windows XP Media Center 2005
    - Intel® Centrino® Duo processor (1.66GHz)
    - 17" WXGA high-definition widescreen with BrightView technology
    (1440 x 900)
    - NVIDIA GeForce Go 7400 graphics (128MB discrete + 128MB shared)
    - 1GB PC3-5300 DDR2 DIMM
    - 200GB hard drive capacity (dual 100GB, 4200 rpm)
    - LiteScribe Double-layer DVD±RW/CD-RW
    - Intel® PRO/Wireless 3945ABG network connection (802.11a/b/g)
     
  30. WeAreNotAlone

    WeAreNotAlone Notebook Deity

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    Go to www.costco.com and CTO build one (Custom To Order), Only takes a few days for them to build it, and have it at your doorstep via Fe-Ex

    Price of the below, delivered:

    $1,509.99, And that's NOT counting a a $50 HP rebate that will further bring the cost down.

    After the HP rebate:
    $1,459.99

    (Note to the above, add about $60 sales tax- Tax was $59.68 on mine, Locally the tax would have been more than twice the above fiqure for the tax if purchased locally (In my area about 10%)

    Note also that COSTCO runs promotions from time to time, in my case I ordered a dv8000t (not a "z") thru Costco spec'd as below, except with a 100 gig drive, since the 120 was not an option, either thru Costco, or HP.... for $1401.99, delivered... (it had a $150 instant off thru Costco)

    $1,491.99, less $150, +tax $59.68. Shipping Free. Price NOT inculding the $50 HP rebate to be mailed in.

    Placed order April 2, 10:45pm+/- because the $150 Costco instant coupon expired the 3rd :)
    Order showing in system the 3rd
    Shipped from the factory in China the 7th, 3:54 pm after the Fed-Ex cut-off...
    Delivered the 10th, 8:35am.

    Note also that I spec'd the machine with a FASTER CPU, (2.0gighz), 120gig 5,400 drive, not 4,200's. The thought being to purchase a second drive when "needed" later thru a 3rd party vendor later since HP charges about 5 times what you could buy a hard drive from someone else!!!

    (Translation, each day hd prices come down, capacities go UP- :) I fiqure a year of so I'll be able to get a 250 gig to add for the same price as someone would pay today for a 100-120gig.... So I'll be looking at 370 gig of storage, or more...

    Unless you really need the extra storage space on you laptop directly, the BEST and cheapest option is to purchase a FIREWIRE external hd enclosure, then buy a 250 gig ATA desktop drive for a $50 after rebate if you need lots of space... "cheap".

    You can also get the enclosures spec'd as USB 2.0 /FIREWIRE... USB being slower, but being more widely found in some cases. Note that in chosing a external enclosure you need to research carefully. From the research I did about 2-3 months ago the USB/FIREWIRE models where not as "stable", as a pure USB, OR FIREWIRE version. Most people doing video editing chosing pure FIREWIRE for the speed... If you have DATA that is precious... chose carefully!!!
    Chose one with built in heat sinks...

    Ditto on the ram on "cost", you're better off to buy the ram third party. I'm opting for 2 gig ram.... Cost $150- $190, the higher figure for the 667 ram, instead of the 533 ram. (My dv8000t shipped with 667 spec'd ram)

    (Here's a thread about a dv5000 that has a link to ram (533), the same company has 667 ram also.... You may want to read thru (and archive) the thread if you plan on doing a CLEAN install of the OS to get RID of all the BLOATWARE, TRIALWARE el-fill up the hard drive with unless junk-ola that HP installs... :) http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=1318531

    Another side note: The support for the "Media" edition thru HP is very poor for most people I've read. If I had the choice I'd go with the PRO version, or leave the Home version on it. If you do want the Media version, it's $30 more (heck it should be $300 less from what I've read about it- reminds me of Windows "ME"...)

    Keep in mind that if you install your own OS, Pro over Home for example HP won't like that when it comes time for support on software issues.... BUT since the support is only 90-days, that's really a mute point. Once I confirm the unit I have is not hardware defective and round up all the needed drivers, XP PRO is more than likely going on the unit I ordered..

    One last thing, I opted for the (1680x1050) screen. Reason?, it enables you to have two apps, webpages, etc side by side and not have to scroll up and down as much, if any.

    Note that the Costco site makes no mention of it, but you CAN purchase the Extended warranty directly thru HP.. several versions with "accident" coverage for the same or less than whatever BuyBest, CircuitCity, etc is offering. The "screen" alone is $956, so consider a plan with accident coverage...

    Hope the above info proves helpful to you. You make like Media Center, so let your heart be the guide on that aspect. On the hardware, I'd go with a faster CPU... Chosing the single drive for a cost savings...

    Look towards the future, bluetooth for example if you don't currently have any bluetooth devices....


    Another model you may want to check out is the HP nx9240... it's got a faster video card, will take up to 4 gig memory... although at this time you can't buy 2 gig chips :) It's on the business side of HP, lots more "cash" though.... For the money the dv8000t has a alot to offer. Pretty cheap really, considering...


    One thing I'd pay "extra" for is a built in handle.... You know like they "used" to put on laptops....

    Would cost about 20 cents max per unit in the overall cost...

    Attachement points for a "sling", strap would be nice....

    *** * * *

    Here's the machine I'd order if I were you:

    Intel(R) Core(TM) Duo processor T2500 (2.0 GHz)
    512MB DDR2 SDRAM (2x256MB)
    120 GB 5400 RPM SATA Hard Drive
    LightScribe 8x DVD+/-RW&CD-RW Combo w/Double Layer
    256MB NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) Go 7400
    Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network w/Bluetooth
    17.0" WSXGA+ BrightView Widescreen (1680x1050)
    Microsoft(R) Windows(R) XP Home Edition with SP2



    IN ADDTION, If you plan on "using" the notebook as a "notebook" on battery power, ADD a EXTRA battery for only $83 thru COSTCO...... HP is $99 with an order.. and if you want to order it "later".... It's like $160- $180... So keep that in mind as well!!!!!


    ONE more thing... Costco has a SIX MONTH NO-HASSLE return policy on PC's.... try that at HP with their 21-day return policy
     
  31. WeAreNotAlone

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    On the drive space pop-up... You should be able to

    A: Hide the recovery partition from Explorer, by going into Disk Management, and NOT giving it a drive letter.

    Don't know how that will effect the "recovery" option, but it should do away with the pop-ups.

    I really think it's stupid to have it show up in Explorer...

    You can also:
    B: Select the amount of hard drive space before the pop-up appears. (pretty sure on that, don't remember where that setting is off-hand and I have to sign-off now)
    Pretty sure I've seen that option, seeing somewhere.... May be thinking of the recyle bin....

    You may want to check the recyle bin setting to see IF it is showing space reserved on the D drive... if so selecting ZERO should fix your problem.


    BTW: Post back the "fix", what "worked.
     
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    To all you dv8000t fans, I'll just let you know that, like I posted earlier in this thread, my dv8000t experiences occasional lockups and rebooting. I have been trying to isolate when this happens but haven't nailed it down yet. If anyone else is having this or a similar issue, I'd like to hear about it.

    Up until a day ago, it would only happen when running on battery, but then wham, it locked up once when on AC. I've checked all the drivers and have the latest version per HP's site. Right now I'm thinking it's the Synaptics touchpad driver. I'm testing now with the touchpad disabled and it has been stable. Also, when on AC, I usually have a wireless keyboard and mouse attached, thought the touchpad is active also.

    When I first received the notebook, the touchpad scroll feature wouldn't work. Checked the HP site and there was an updated driver which I install and which fixed the scrolling issue. Not long after that, the lockups started.

    I'm not too technical so if there is anything I should try to isolate it, I'd appreciate it. Haven't tried HP support since the issue is too random. If I could isolate the cause, I'd see what they could offer. So, 12 days and counting on my 21 day return. If I can't get this thing isolated, it's going back.

    Chris
     
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    Would the computer you are recommending me to build be good for video editing? Since I'm majoring in Film/Video production, I was hoping this computer (the original one I found) would be good for it because it had 200GB hard drive and more memory. I want a good computer that will last me a good while being the poor college student that I am. Are there any other computers that would be good for what I am planning on doing with it at a reasonable price like the HP? Like I said, I have no idea what I want. This will be my first laptop.


     
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    Thanks for the reply,

    Yesterday I did a search via Google and found a site which fixup this problems
    via making change to windows registery, ever since then... no more ballon pop up since !!! :cool:

    Here is the link: http://www.helpwithwindows.com/WindowsXP/tune-06.html

    Feel free to use it, If u do face the problems as same as I do...


    Another issue though...

    Yesterday I tried to burn a Recovery Disc via 'HP Discovery Disc Creator'
    But after going to the process, it turn out not working...
    The message shown was just the 'Cancellation of Burn Disc' without any other error messages :confused:
    I did choose the option to burn it with 2 DVD -R, but there is another option for burning to DVD DL as well, But I don't have any DVD DL handy...
    - What could be the problems? Anyone can help?
    - I heard that once you burn the recovery disc, you can only burn once. So what will happen to the partition and the files in it?
    - Can I use Nero to backup the drive first before creating a recovery DVD?
    - If I can backup via Nero, could I late create a recovery dvd using the HP programs?
     
  35. chanchaic

    chanchaic Notebook Enthusiast

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    Refer to the above: I think I have found the solution...
    Based search via Google.com I found this website.
    http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/fastFaqDocument?lc=en&cc=us&docname=c00048086&product=12455

    with mention that

    So I think the problem that I cannot create was because I was using a DVD-R media, when I should be using DVD+R... (Why there was no error msg by HP telling me that?!?!?)




    Anyway my remainding questions still stand ... anyone care to share their experience?
    - I heard that once you burn the recovery disc, you can only burn once. So what will happen to the partition and the files in it? Will it delete the 'HP_Recovery' Partition?
    - Can I use Nero to backup the drive first before creating a recovery DVD? If I can backup the recovery using Nero first (So I'll be able to also have a spare copy of the 'HP_Recovery' Drive), could I still be able create a recovery dvd using the HP programs?​
     
  36. LankanDude

    LankanDude Notebook Consultant

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    There is another way to hide that message.
    http://www.freshdevices.com/freshui.html
    Download this tool

    It allows you to configure windows hidden settings.
    Once I hide the notification message using this tool.
     
  37. chanchaic

    chanchaic Notebook Enthusiast

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    Anyway my remainding questions still stand ... anyone care to share their experience?

    - I heard that once you burn the recovery disc, you can only burn once. So what will happen to the partition and the files in it? Will it delete the 'HP_Recovery' Partition?
    - Can I use Nero to backup the drive first before creating a recovery DVD? If I can backup the recovery using Nero first (So I'll be able to also have a spare copy of the 'HP_Recovery' Drive), could I still be able create a recovery dvd using the HP programs?
     
  38. WeAreNotAlone

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    You can only run the recovery disc creator once and then it self-destructs :-(.....
    The restore partition does NOT get deleted, but once run the recovery disc creator which is located in your Windows partition will not work again.
    SEE WORKAROUND BELOW:)


    (The fact it self destructs is BS btw... since there is a need to create more than one set of discs. More than one set, creating one set on for example (-) disc's, the other on (+) disc's. Creating more than one set to be sure the process, the data on the disc's is not in some way corrupted.

    Nice to have an extra set after you moved, or after your house has been broke into and the burglars stole, or stepped on your "restore" disc while they were "working". :)

    The only way to get around this I feel would be to ghost the XP and restore partition, since something changes to keep the ulitity from being run again.


    On using Nero... I would assume this would be an option if it access's the HD at a low level like Ghost does.


    Just for the heck of it, would someone please try the following to see if the QuickPlay partition can indeed be backed up, restored properly and then a Fresh copy of XP PRO installed and QuickPlay still work.

    1: Backup parititons the on HD using Ghost, Nero, etc.

    Backup QuickPlay v 2.0 which is on a 1024mb LINUX partition.
    Restore partition -DO NOT DELETE
    Windows XP parition

    2: Before step #3 below... Make a copy of everything in the C:\swsetup folder (This folder should contain everything needed to migrate for example from the bloatware ridden Windows Home as installed by HP... to a nice CLEAN, FRESH install of XP PRO.)

    3: Delete Quickplay, Delete the Windows XP partition. (leaving the restore partition alone)

    4: Restore (recopy back to hd) the QP partition, and then using a XP PRO install disc (Or the OS install disc as provided by HP for $10 "extra"...) Install a FRESH copy of Windows XP PRO, using the files from the c:\swsetup folder. One of those files starts with "Q", for "quickPlay and that installer when run should "rekey" Quickplay to the new OS. Just to be on the safe side back-up the sections of the registry pertaining to QuickPlay/Cyberlink.


    PS: During the XP install that is a GOOD time to create a partition for your DATA to keep it seperate from the OS. (Anyone who keeps their data on the same partition is an idiot btw.)

    Note- WARNING.... the dv8000t, and I think the dv5000t use SATA hard drives. When installing XP PRO it will ask for the SATA drivers for the HD, supposedly it will only be able to "see" an external USB "A" floppy type drive... so keep this in mind if your wanting to do a fresh install. Here's some more info on that: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=1318531

    Here's some info on QuickPlay: http://www.notebookforums.com/showthread.php?t=141817


    One last thing.... I would assume that backing up the partitions BEFORE the disc creator is run, and those partitons being restored would allow you to run the disc creatore again....
     
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    herosi Newbie

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    I haved backed up and restored the partitions on my new DV8000t three times using Acroins Trueimage without any problems. I was testing three new Hitachi drives for the company I work for.

    I am also going to reinstall XP pro in the near future to get rid of the recovery partition and the 10000 pieces of share and junk HP put on the drive. I have done this a few times on my old dv4000 without a problem. I'll let you know how the re-install work.

    Karl (One of those 'idoits' that stores data and apps on the same partitions)
     
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    Birdmangsr Notebook Guru

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    just curious, i just got my dv8000t the other day and i noticed that the black glossy finish on the keypad is somewhat scratched up.. anyone elses like that ?
     
  42. Shel

    Shel Notebook Evangelist

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    It shouldn't be. I recieved my dv1000t on Monday, and the mousepad is also black, and not scratched up. My entire notebook has no scratches.

    You need to decide how much it bothers you, and if it's worth the hassle of returning it and getting a new one.
     
  43. chanchaic

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    Thanks for the prompt reply...

    At least now I do have a basic idea of how I can go around doing it...

    So can i conclude that...

    - I can use Ghost or NeroBackup to Backup or image the drive... (without damaging the file)

    - Then I can create a set of Recovery Disc using the pre installed program...

    - By which in later days I could, then mount the image back to the drive or move the backed up file back to the HP_recovery partition and will be able to creat another set of Recovery disc...

    Right? =)







    BTW.... Why being HP, do they choose to install so much of the Junkware?
    Aren't there already enough in the world... :sigh:
    I guess no one - nothing in this World is Prefect... :rolleyes:
     
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    chrisbutts Notebook Enthusiast

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    As far as buying that system from Costco goes...

    You can get a 5% discount from HP if your a student. I priced the same system through both and HP was a little cheaper.

    Looks like Costco has a better return policy though. Do you have to be a Costco member?
     
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    chrisbutts Notebook Enthusiast

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    Okay it's not that much of a savings. Through HP with student discount it was only $7 cheaper than through Costco for the same machine.

    So since Costco has a better return policy and if you truly can buy the HP warranty through them, I'd go that way.

    How do you go about purchasing the HP warranty through Costco?
     
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    Birdmangsr Notebook Guru

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    Ya, well i dont think i want to send it back to hp just to get it replaced with an unscratched on. I mean its only noticeable in DIRECT light, they are just like surface scrathes, just wish i could get hp just to send me a new keypad boarder without having to send it in ;p
     
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    On the ghosting, etc I wouldn't trust windows based APPS.
    http://radified.com/Articles/laptop.htm
    http://ghost.radified.com/

    On the Junkware..... they are either gettring a kick-back, Or they're putting the stuff in as filler.... Or both.
     
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    You don't. As I've posted before if it not in this thread you call /contact HP after you get it. You can call them while it's in route... The rep I talked to wanted to sign me up right then.... I told him I'd rather wait... try out the unit to be sure it was a good fit for my lifestyle.... confirm the thing "worked", in case it had to be returned.

    It's easy money for them, because we all know they get the parts dirt CHEAP.
     
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    I see. Warranty are so "****ed if you do, and ****ed if you don't".

    Either way it's probably stupid to spend that kind of money and not insure it in some way.
     
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    Shel Notebook Evangelist

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    By the way, there is a note from HP in the box, when you purchase from Costco, offering you an extended warranty on your new computer.
     
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