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Never thought of that, I didn't even check. Chrome is high performance by default, so I switched to power saving and that fixed it. Thanks.

 

So will the system restore really help? OR I should just send it back for a new one?

 

Does anyone have the 9 cell? Is it uncomfortable to use one a desk/lap?

 

9cell is really awesome when it comes to using the laptop on a desk, because it will lift up the laptop from behind a little creating an angle which will make typing really comfortable, and it will also make some room under the laptop for some good ventilation, helping in the cooling of it.... On the other hand, the fact that it will stick out a little from the back won't make it very comfortable to use the laptop on your lap, however it's not that bad.. You can adjust
So now it depends on you, where and how are you gonna use your laptop more often - desk - 9cell , lap - either
You can also get both and use them accordingly...

 

I already ordered with the 9 cell. But now I'm thinking that it will be plugged in most of the time if on a desk or such, and when mobile it'll probably be on my lap or whatnot. And to just change my order to the 6 cell, I'd have to cancel my current one, see if it actually cancels, get my refund, blah blah. Don't have time for that since school is around the corner. Just wondering...

 

Thanks in advance for your opinion,
I had my hp dv6 for about 20 days (specification in signature below)
it came with Toshiba MK1509GSM drive (1 TB.)

when I first checked my Hdd. it was O.K. and without problem.
few days ago I rechecked my Hdd. and it report:
reallocated sector count warning (value = 8)

today I rechecked and it report:
reallocated sector count warning (value = 16)

as you can see in attached files, I used different applications i.e., Crystal Disk Info, Acronic drive monitor, and HD tune, all show the same warning.
but Hp assistant drive check says O.K.
also boot check says O.K.

what is your opinion, is the drive failing? do I need to backup my files and prepare another drive?? what is your experience with this drive??

further detail posted in my thread:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-pavilion-notebooks/599400-new-hp-dv6tqe-failing-hdd.html

 

Hey all,

I just ordered a Pavilion dv6-6190us today! Pretty excited for it to arrive, HP offered a good balance of power and portability for a good value.

I ordered the quick ship model, so it's arriving soon, but I was unable to customize it. That wasn't a problem for anything EXCEPT the battery. The model ships with a 6-cell battery. I looked at prices, and a 9-cell separately comes out to around $90-100 on the HP site. I figured I can buy a 9-cell later if I really need to. I'll be using the laptop in college, so there won't be many places where I won't have access to a plug. Still, cooling is a factor...

Some questions:
How good of a value is $100 on a 9-cell battery? Can I buy it for cheaper from other places, or will it not fit to the laptop?

How big of a deal is the extra ventilation offered by the rise of the 9-cell battery?

 

not sure on the first question but the 9 cell doesnt add any ventilation since all the heat ventilates on the left side of the laptop

 

That's not really true - there's a vent on the left bottom side too. And though it's not blocked by the table, the flow of air isn't ideal. So a 9 cell battery probably would improve the airflow.

Plus the bottom of the computer gets hot and there are components and while there aren't vents, there are slits there so heat can dissipate. Always good to have air go through there.

 

I think you should send your laptop back for a repair or just exchange it for a new one... You may want to backup all your stuff in case the hard drive worsens and gets corrupt if you don't want to lose everything... If those softwares detect problems and give warnings, you should not take a risk... Don't ask the HP Tech. people, they don't know a and might not be even knowing about those softwares..
BTW I'm gonna use those softwares to detect any issues in my hdd as I'm facing a problem of random freezing in my new dv7

 

I have the 9 cell. On the desk, it's not a problem. On a lap, well there is some space to the left and right so it doesn't really make it uncomfortable. I'm typing on the dv6 on my lap right now and it's fine.

 

The 9-cell is fine for me. I have the bump in between my legs, not on them, and there's no difference when on my lap. I use it all the time on my lap.

 

Quick question. The new sandy bridge i7 processors are able to support switchable graphics now right? If so, does that mean there is no difference in terms of battery life between the i7 and i5? Thanks

 

If you check on the intel site, i7s have more TPD in watts than i5s or even non core i7s. That means the maximum power draw of the processor is higher, so that power needs to be dissipated by more fan work. Essentially, that means i7s are stronger but draw more power.

Although, it's worth it in my opinion, quad cores are the way of the future, not too much, not too little.

 

It has nothing to do with the processors.

As for the battery life, the i5 consumes a bit less power than the i7. The quad core i7 shuts parts of itself down when not in use, saving some energy.

 

Thanks for the replies. Basically I'm trying to decide between the envy 14 and the dv6 and the two parts of the dv6 that are worrying me are the keyboard and the shotty build quality (flex). Anyone care to reassure me?

 

Only shoddy build quality I can think of that should be even given the tiniest bit of worrying is the flex in the keyboard. But for the most part, it's a simple pop into place yourself type of thing and it's fixed. IMO, the envy is only worth it if you want the smaller screen/size. The GPU is weaker. Then again you get a 2 year warranty standard last time I checked vs just 1 year.

On another note, does the dv7 come with two years of warranty. I believe someone said something about that, but I don't recall seeing it myself on HP's website.

 

I picked the dv6tqe over the ENVY 14. Wasn't the ENVY not upgradeable beyond a 1366x768 screen? Deal breakers for me were the dv6tqe's stronger GPU and better screen.

 

Request: photos of the mPCIe slots of a DV6/DV7 SB system

There is some interest in the eGPU experiences thread of attaching an eGPU to these systems. Can someone volunteer to take photos of the mPCIe slots of the system? I'm looking to see how accessible they are and how many slots exist. It would surely have one wifi slot, but might have two. If it has a second one, can you swap over the wifi card to confirm that it's detected in the second slot indicating it's got pci-e lines going to it?

 

i only noticed one slot for wifi, it's very easily accessible for the purpose of a diy vidock, as it's right there after you take out the back cover and you only need to take out 2 screws (on the card itself) and prop up the back of the laptop to extend a cord out (to the right) to be able to access it.

a picture of the slot can be found on the service manual, page 68.
http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02842252.pdf

i was actually considering doing it myself, but turns out the 6770m is quite capable of everything that i demanded, so decided to save the $200 to move from high to ultra on the few demanding games. but for those already have a 460gtx or better, this could be a worthwhile thing to do.

 

I just "clean installed" an SSD into my new dv7t Quad. It all seems to be working fine. I have no (!) in the Device Manager, and everything works, even the fingerprint scanner.

However, I do not have a "switchable graphics" selection on the 'right click on the desktop' pop up menu. I see 'Graphic Options' and 'Graphics Properties', but that's it. I recall seeing a switchable selection deal on the original hard drive OS. I loaded the drivers for both video cards, but don't have that selection.

I don't really care, as long as I'm using the faster video, which it appears I am, as the Windows Experience score for video is 6.6 for both gaming and graphics.

Am I missing something, and does it matter.

any help would be appreciated. THANKS

 

Well, the power savings obtained via Switchable graphics is acheived by the integrated GPU, or IGP, and so its true that this power savings has nothing to do with the processor's own Pd -- it has to do with the fact that the processor has an on-board GP.

That aside, yes the i7's maximum Pd is listed at 10 watts higher than the i5. This is is small, but worth a few short minutes of extra battery if indeed the i5 always drew 10 watts less than the i7, which it will not . The power savings of the i5, and this is just an opinion, probably comes when the usage is limited to general purpose surfing, email, and MSOFFCE work, for which the i7 is probably over qualified . It would take a detailed study to show which processor consumes less power under various situations, but generally I see the i5 as otimized for general purpose computing, and not as applicable to stronger tasks such as gaming, video editing, etc.

 

Just got my dv6t today.

I noticed there was an app for switchable graphics.

 

I'm pretty sure the power savings would only come if you were running at full bore until the battery's drained. Like you said, the i5 isn't always drawing 10w less, that's just the difference at maximum draw. So we can be sure that at maximum draw, the i5 will pull less total power, but at lower usage levels it's likely pretty close to equal.

 

there's probably some amusing corner cases where the i7 overhead to shut down one or more cores might be a disadvantage... but generally I tend to agree with you and suspect that the power consumed by the i7 versus i5 isn't worth crowing about in actual practice for the vast majority of cases, not counting special or corner cases, that is.

there is the cost of the i5 though, i.e. if one isn't going to utiize the i7 then why pay for it!

 

Attention all DV6/7 61xx owners: update your BIOS! Switchable graphics is here.

 

Cool. Someone should see if this allows OCing.

 

yea it's got it. If I'm reading correctly, what doesn't work is the use of OpenGL apps running on the discrete GPU. this includes test apps like furmark, and certain functions of Adobe photoshop, which will not run on the GPU and must run on the IGP because they are written in OpenGL.

EDIT: if the BIOS update just reported here by bishbish777 works, then the above has been fixed.

someone correct me if I'm wrong here, but I believe DX10 apps CAN switch properly and run on either the GPU or the IGP. DX11 apps are by necessity constrained to the GPU (because the IGP does not support DX11). its only the OpenGL stuff that doesn't work right.

in the vast majority of cases, most will never know or care, imho. As a photographer though, I'd like to be able to run photoshop on the GPU, and as an anal geek I want to run furmark on the discrete GPU!

Edit: again, the above statement is not applicable, assuming the BIOS update works

 

In the other thread it was determined that it works, and you can OC and run OpenGL>

 

great! thanks jaguare2

on another note, does anyone know the color gamut specs for the 1080p panel?

 

I believe it is a 300 nits brightness 60% color gamut 600:1 contrast ratio 60 hz matte screen - provided you get the LG panel which most new custom built models seem to have (older AUO panel has less brightness + contrast ratio)

 

ok thanks. disapointing, but informative. where does that info come from? I'll check the downloadable manuals again, but last time I checked, the color gamut was not specified.

 

http://www.lgdisplay.com/lgdhp/eng/productPopup/notebookView.dev?seq=1155

gamut = color saturation afaik

 

nice info. color saturation isn't meaured in percent, but you're probably right this referes to color gamut. Where's the linkage proving that this is the 1080p display in the DV7? The weight of evidence really points to the fact that you are right; I just wanted that last bit of certainty. typically, when HP does not list the color gamut, or the cg isn't anything to crow about, it is a 60% panel.

I found it interesting that the DV77 manual does not even list the specs of the 1080 panel. only the description "17.3-in, WVA AntiGlare (1920×1080), full high-definition (FHD), light-emitting diode (LED) display; typical brightness: 300 nits"

EDIT: correction -- color sat can be measured in %, but "60%" really does sound like a color gamut, not a color sat, specification

 

the dv6t has a 60% NTSC gamut screen (~90% sRGB space). it's the same panel as the elitebook 8540/8560w fhd panel
the dv7t has a 72% NTSC gamut screen. it's the same panel as the envy 17 (non-3d) fhd panel.

 

People posted with results from hwinfo

However someone posted recently that their dv7t shipped with an AUO screen and said it was v5 - I'm not exactly sure what screen that is, because the v5 used to be the 95% gamut matte screen. I find it unlikely HP would offer that screen without a premium price

edit: thanks teotuf for clearing that up - so what's the model # of the dv7t screen? is it a matte screen?

 

ok so you guys teotuf and jaguare2 appear to disagree on the DV7t panel. would you care to cite your references? jaguare2 how do you know that this panel is the same as used in the envy 17?

 

I'm probably wrong. I did not know about the dv7t having a better quality screen than the dv6t.

@teotuf - is it matte? what's the exact model #?

 

yea there's no way the DV7 screen is 95% gamut. I would believe 72% if someone can show the hwinfo screen --. so far we don't have clear evidence that the DV7 screen is the same as used in the Envy 17, although its certainly plausible

 

that would be quite nice indeed. does hwinfo show this? at least one could verify this upon receipt from HP and return it during the 21 days...

 

The Envy 17 1080p screen is as far as I know a glossy screen and it certainly could be 72% gamut. I own an Envy 17 3D screen which is 72% gamut (400 nits brightness).

The dv7t 1080p screen is as far as I know a matte screen, but teotuf seems to know the model # and exact specs.

 

The Envy 17 1080 (non 3D) screen is 72% gamut. the Envy 17 manual posted on the hp support site states it out right

 

can someone post a screen shot of hwinfo or some tool showing what the 1080p panel is?

 

Ok, so the poster in the other thread said the model # is AUO B173HW01 V5

Currently searching for the exact information about this monitor.

 

They don't use that screen anymore. You're looking for an LG panel.

 

neo, someone just posted about the laptop he received today and said it was an AUO screen B173HW01 V5. this was on the dv7t.

on the dv6t I have not heard of anyone receiving any other screen besides the LP156WF1-TLF3 recently.

 

source:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-pavilion-notebooks/562249-hp-dv6t-dv7t-select-edition-quad-edition-6xxx-series-owners-lounge-554.html#post7556649

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-pavilion-notebooks/562249-hp-dv6t-dv7t-select-edition-quad-edition-6xxx-series-owners-lounge-556.html#post7557037

this only applies to the LG panel, i have no idea about the AUO 17 inch panel.

for dv6t, i have the AUO13ED panel rather than the LG.

 

ok -- having troubles finding the exact post number, as the links take me to this same place on this thread!

 

LG LGD0283 is a glossy screen, isn't it? so how can it be the matte 1080p option on the dv7t?

 

The problem with discussing LCD panels in this thread is that people are talking about two different laptop sizes in this thread.