*HP dv6t & dv7t Select Edition / Quad Edition (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

What kind of temperatures are you guys getting when you stress this laptop? While running prime95 torture test on 8 threads and furmark stability settings, my gpu gets to 85C and my cpu gets as high as 94C.

I'm getting a laptop cooler that should shave some of that off, but what kind of numbers are you guys getting?

 

I get around 40c idle, and around 75-80 while gaming.... I don't know how much of a load does playing COD and Hot Pursuit add to the cpu and gpu...

 

Mine idles at 45c, can hit 50-55c if I'm multitasking...gaming usually gets to about 75-85c depending on what I'm playing

 

Those numbers are around the same for me while gaming. I guess the sandy bridge CPUs just run pretty hot.

 

I expect the quad core to get pretty hot but I also think reapplying the thermal paste would probably help.

 

yeah i'd like to get some arctic silver down there but im too scared to do it

 

I don't recall there being any hardware differences between the 6000 and 6100 models, so maybe this will help?

‪HP dv6 complete disassembly and reassembly. 2011 Laptop‬‏ - YouTube

 

nice video. according to that guy, his temps didn't change but he did notice it throttling higher. i already notice mine throttling at the 2630qm's 2.8ghz while running prime95 with 3 or less threads anyway, so I'm not sure if it would really help.

I was also testing it while my laptop was hooked up to my monitor/keyboard/mouse on my desk with it just sitting on a computer chair so surely when I get the cooler it will drop the temps down.

 

It isn't quite the same as some, but it does help to see a similar disassembly.

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c02842252.pdf

 

hi guys! can anybody tell me what's the actual weight of the dv6t? with battery, without battery, and with the adapter? I saw in the HP website it's 5.78lbs but i don't know if that includes the battery or not.

thanks!

 

thanks bro

 

right-o. it just takes an extra cpu cycle to see what's going on. hp pushes some coupons out there as "stackable" whichi means they can be stacked top of instant rebates and other happiness unrelated to another coupon. I haven't seen any coupon that can be used with another coupon, and indeed the website doesn't even allow for two coupons anyway.

the coupons that are not stackable are applied in place of the instant rebates and discounts. for example, the 30% discount last month was applied to the full price, without allowing any instant rebates or instant savings. But the current 15% stackable coupon is applied in addition.

 

The 6100s got the 2GB 6770M, the HM65 chipset supporting bus alive chip off muxless switchable graphics, and the new 1080p panel.

 

Guys, please someone tell me what's the difference between the glossy and matte screens in the dv6/dv7s in terms of brightness nits and %gamut...
Thanks

 

So you're saying that the 6000's will never get dynamic switching implemented, because they don't support bus alive chip whatsit?

Aymu, if you care about screen quality at all, get the matte screen - the glossy one can't display proper blacks, and has a hideous viewing angle.

 

My dv7 with matte screen has already shipped! I was just reconfirming that I have spent over a $100 for something really worth it...
Thanks btw

 

sweet! congratulations; mine ships Aug 17. for those wondering -- We have strong evidence that this display is the same 300-nit 72% gamut panel used in the non-3d Envy 17. I say strong evidence rather than confirmed because -- while HP does not publish the specs for the DV7's panel, they DO publish the specs for the Envy 17's panel, and this one is spec'd with 72% color gamut. Moreover, we found at least one example where an Envy 17 owner and a DV7 owner reported the same actual LG display model in device manager. We also found examples where more than one DV7 owner reported a different display (mfg escapes me at the moment but not LG) where we DID find published specs from the OE, and this also confirmed 72% gamut.

So what that shows is that HP is currently shipping the DV7 with the same display used in the (std) Envy 17. Supply and Demand may be behind this (perhaps most Envy 17 buyers go for the 3D display, which is different). My point is that I think we're lucky -- there is no published commitment (as in specs) to guarentee that all DV7s will have a 72% gamut wide viewing angle anti-glare screen, but in actual practice that is what we are getting for now at least. yay.

So Aymu.ali when you get yours could you please go to device manager and tell us what OE display is actually there?

 

I ordered mine just a day before him and I just got mine. I'll let you know in a few minutes.

 

I am trying to use a coupon now from techBargains that the wording would suggest it is stackable yet it says invalid in th ecart. =(

 

HP Coupons and HP Laptop Deals from LogicBUY I find is better. Right side you'll see 15% envy coupon and 15% pavillion.

 

ok Dlleno.

I got a AUO159D (B173HW01 V5) screen. 72% gamut ftw,

 

That's not the screen on the Envy 17. But I don't think there's a difference between that screen and the LG screen.

And the Envy 17 screen is glossy not matte as far as I know. Despite the monitor part #s being the same as the screen that ships on some dv7t's.

And yeah you're probably right dlleno, most Envy 17 buyers get the 3D screen - I got one, at least. It's 400 nits, 120 hz, 72% gamut, wide viewing angle, but glossy (it's only downside).

I think I can tell a big difference between 60% gamut and 72% gamut. If I had stayed with the pavillion series I definitely would have gotten a dv7t.

 

well I suspect that might be true but thats not exactly what I was saying in that particular post. -- I was implying the 6000 can never have switchable graphics in the same way that the 6100 does because the hardware will not allow it.

The 61xx models supports "muxless BACO" (Bus alive chip off) -- something that not even today's Envy 17 has. Muxless BACO simply means that the Intel HD3000 graphics controller (on-chip integrated graphics) manages graphics and can choose to either run the dedicated 6770 GPU or actually power it down to save power (the chip is off but the bus remains alive) . way cool if you ask me.

The first Sandy Bridge Envy 17, as well as today's refreshed Envy 17, has mplimented switchable graphics without the "muxless BACO" thing - by using a graphics multiplexer in hardware. Even this particular implimentation (in the Envy 17) is apparently not suppored in the DV7 6000s, and HP hasn't shown any signs of doing so, at least in my view. Moreover, note that the January 4, 2011 press release (where the first Sandy Bridge PC notebooks were described) HP discussed "switchable grahics" only for the Envy 17, not for the Pavilion DV series.

Beyond these details, I'm not very familiar with the DV7's 6000 graphics subsystem.

So -- if the question is "will the 6000 series DV7 ever support dynamic switchable grahics" my own personal opinion is "probably not".

 

ahh yes the AUO screen, thank-you. We know the OE specs for this one because they are published. I have not been able to find specs for the LG screen, which has appeared in at least one DV7 as well as a std Envy

this is interesting, to be sure, that both a DV7 and an Envy 17 owner have reported the same LG part in device manager. But the matte vs glossy distinction could be explained simply by the fact that both the glossy flavor and the matte flavor report the same LG model number to the OS, so that it appears the same in device manager. the actual LG part number that HP orders from LG may be different!

I wonder if there are other differences besides the color gamut that make these displays easy to distinguish. by itself, color gamut is hard to distinguish in general usage and would take a graphics-oriented app or test content to show off the difference. It's like the majority of people when choosing a television will pick the one that is brighter, regardless of other nuances or differences. Hence the "showroom" or "torch" mode which turns up the contrast and brightness in the store.

Anyway, as a photographer I need the 72% gamut in order to properly calibrate my display and have a hope of matching colors to the most widely used color space on the planet, i.e. sRGB. Without actually calibrating the display and showing the same test content on one versus the other I don't think I could identify a 72% gamut display if all other performance specs were identical!

I'm sure looking forward to validating all this when my Dv7 arrives. I would have gone for the ENvy, but the ~$400 price difference (for similar configurations) made me realize that with refined switchable graphics and (at least the hope of) 72% gamut 1080 display, the DV7 meets my needs.

 

It's not necessarily the differences in gamut alone that is making the 72% screen better, but I agree with what you that it is a much better screen! I'm thrilled with the 72% LG panel on my DV7TQE, and I love the fact that it's matte! I also think the DV7T also has a pretty big leg up being able to run an SSD, data drive, and optical drive all at the same time. Sure, it's a slightly bigger package, but the weight gain is minimal, and the extra screen real estate is well worth it!

 

EH noob question. I've never bothered to calibrate my screen before as this is the first decent screen I've owned. How do I apply a color profile?

I through it under C:Windows/system32/spool/drivers blah blah blah with the other profiles but I'm not sure how to apply it. I went to color management > advanced tab> and choce the first option to be my profile, but I'm not sure if it applied or not.

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I have a CCFL Dell LCD 15" that is I'm guessing 72% gamut. I compared it with my dv6t with AUO screen 60% gamut and I was dissapointed with the colors on the screen. It seemed like it was worse colors than that Dell monitor which is about 6 years old. And it was less vibrant...

Dlleno I know what you mean I'm just saying there appears to be two screens offered on the dv7t - an LG screen and the AUO screen. There doesn't appear to be any significant difference between the two. But the LG screen is as far as I know the only one offered on the Envy 17 - it has the same part # but it's not identical though, as the Envy 17 is glossy and dv7t is matte.

 

I'm tracking you jaguare3. I've come to understand that its just not possible to nail this down precisely -- at least not until the replacement parts start showing up. But I agree with you that the LG anti-glare/matte screen cannot possibly be the same actual LG part number as the glossy screen used in the Envy. Here are a couple of additional observations:

1. In the case of the LG screen -- we can't find OE specs directly and we've seen both matte and glossy flavors reported in device manager as the same OE model. But whether matte or glossy -- if the device appears the same to the OS, then it has to behave the same, use the same drivers, and use the same color profiles as the Envy model which we know is 72% gamut. To me that means the matte flavor also has to be 72% gamut.

2. in the case of the AUO screen, I'd suggest that this is a drop in replacement for the LG screen. the color profiles and drivers are already present in the OS and any HP-specific stuff, so that the OS recognizes this automagically. Because this screen is known to have a 72% color gamut, I have to say this suggests that HP may have indeed specified a 72% gamut screen (maybe we're more than "lucky" perhaps). If it were possible to build a DV7 with a 60% gamut 1080p panel, its possible that two laptops might appear side by side and comparisons made, and with the right test content presented to show off the screen, the lesser-gamut screen would look inferior.

Finally, the other point on my mind is that the majority of consumer HD content is created in the sRGB colorspace, which is 72% color gamut. play that same content on a 60% gamut display, and the discerning eye will notice. I would hope that any notebook targeted at the consumer HD entertainment market (and using a large 1080p display) would remain faithful to the standard and use a 72% gamut panel. hopefully, the evidence we have indicates that HP has done this, and that the 1080p panel in the DV7 has been selected to correctly display the majority of HD content

 

Is there an order to download the graphic drivers? already did my bios.

 

unless you have reason to depart from HPs way of managing software updates, just follow the support assistant software and let it download the latest. You can also go the hp software download page for the 6100 and obtain the latest there.

 

Personally, I'm both an amatuer photog and a HT geek, so I know a fair bit about calibrations, and I think FAR too much emphasis is placed on stated color gamut, even when measured performance backs up a 95%+ gamut. To avoid confusion and the common misconception, gamut is not color accuracy! All it determines is a panels capability to display a color, and just because the panel is capable of displaying the color, does not mean that it is doing so accurately.

As some have eluded, 72% is the stated limit for SRGB and REC709 (used for HD broadcasting), so anything above 72%, is only necessary for those working outside of SRGB or who like a highly oversaturated image (ie. colors that don't naturally occur). I'll gladly take a 72% gamut panel that tracks D65 (6500 Kelvin) perfectly across all ires (dark to light measurements which give a panel accurate grayscale and color response), has low Delta E's for all primaries and secondaries (takes into account hue, saturation, and luminance for each color), and has good gamma response within the ideal range, from about 2.2 - 2.5, depending on lighting conditions and individual tastes, over a 95% panel that that does not display as accurately within the 72% gamut that you should be truly concerned about! Sub-72% panels are a concern, because they are leaving out colors that occur naturally. Therefore, your images are not going to be as true to life as they could be. However, as long as you can cover the 72% accurately, you're basically as good as you need to be, since the 95% panel isn't truly going to be any better!

 

As an aside, the only panels that I'm truly aware of that are able to hit mid-90's and above accurately for gamut are locally dimming LED backlit technology. Edge/perimeter backlighting and CCFL are nowhere near accurate enough to hit those kinds of numbers without extreme oversaturation which totally throws the entire range off to the point where it is not accurate (ie. sacrificing the 72% for a higher overall gamut score). I say shame on manufacturers for doing so, since the only possible intent in doing so is to mislead consumers!

 

+1 and thanks dark rider -- I would only add that if one is doing photo editing for CYA professioal studio print, that wide-gamut studio monitors, properly calibrated, are often used. But for the rest of us absolutely not worth the numbers game or the trouble, especially on a laptop display!

 

So this has probably been asked before but can i replace my wireless card in my dv6t-6100 with a better one or are any others compatible?. I read on hp website that some models have a "ralink" wifi card in them but i'm not sure if the quality is any better or not. I dunno what it is but i feel like the intel wifi link 1000 is of low quality, or maybe i am just paraniod lol. Thanks.

 

Watch this thread - http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...n-whitelist-hp-authorized-wireless-cards.html

And the WiFi Link 1000 is a low-quality card.

 

I figured as much , Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, hopefully someone will come up with something soon.

 

Hi again. I posted the other week about a pretty noticable hiss/static in my dv6's headphone jack and I finally got my computer sent to HP (or actually a HP partner repair workshop) the other day (tuesday this week i think), only to today get an email saying that the case is closed.
After a phone call to HP I was told that this meant: "They didn't find anything wrong so they are now sending your laptop back to you".

So, it will probably come back to me tomorrow, probably still having an atrocious hiss/static in the earphone jack with my $120 Shure SE215. An earphone jack belonging to a Entertainment PC with a "specially designed audio jack" that is supposed to prevent static. Go figures, it WAS all marketing bull after all.

TL;DR: Don't buy HP Pavilion's if you have/will buy a pair of good quality ear buds (with low impedance and high sensitivity), because you will hear a significant hiss, and HP will not see it as a hardware defect.

ps. I haven't decided if I should send it back for a full refund (i.e. I do not have to pay for the return shipping) or keep it yet. It was cheap ($1000 instead of the normal swedish price of $1200) and does live up to my expectations performancewise otherwise... so any input about what you would have done is welcome ds.

 

just bought this system
its arriving about 10-14 days time to Singapore
I believe I don't need 2gb of ati 6770m though
i believe it's only increased about 1-3 fps in game?

2nd generation Intel(R) Quad Core(TM) i7-2820QM Processor 2.3 GHz/8MB L3 Cache with Turbo Boost up to 3.4 GHz
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Technology automatically speeds up your processor when your PC needs extra performance that`s smart performance with a speed boost
8GB DDR3 SDRAM System Memory
640GB 7200rpm SATA Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
1GB GDDR5 ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 6770M VRAM switchable Graphics [HDMI, VGA]
Lightscribe SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
HP TrueVision HD Webcam & Digital Microphone
Integrated Finger Print Reader
Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN & Bluetooth with Wireless Display Support
Intel Wireless Display enables you to project personal content, online TV shows, movies, videos, and more, on your TV
Beats(TM) audio for superior sound and two speakers that tilt
Two USB 3.0 Ports
15.6" Diagonal High Definition LED HP Brightview Widescreen Display (1366x768)
Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

 

Lol. Unless you really need that processing power (you don't need beyond a 2630qm just for gaming and most tasks), you should have went with a different laptop...

 

On another note, the 9 cell is amazing. 7-8 hours on my dv7....

 

most games are now pretty demanding on your cpu though..
I love the look and feel of dv6 silky and solid
I think ati 6770m slightly faster than ati 5850m isn't it?
I used to have alienware m15x and msi gx640 with ati 5850m
it was really great to have that ati 5850m...
and now ati 6770m with i7-2820cpu....
it's going to be great !

 

Eh, you just overpaid for a performance increase you won't notice, that's all. You could have had better bang for your buck elsewhere.

 

You would probably get better gaming performance from your Alienware or MSI, tbh.

And yeah, the CPU upgrade was a waste. Take a look at this, CPU speed doesn't really affect gaming performance since Sandy Bridge is such a capable architecture. It's the graphics card that matters and the 6770m is a step down from what you had previously.

If you don't mind getting a 17" notebook, I would recommend the Envy 17 because it has switchable graphics for good battery life and a 6850m which is a far better graphics card.

 

I wouldn't jump so fast on condeming the 2820 upgrade, unless of course the intended use really is gaming and not CPU-intensive apps that really do make use of the extra power. if gaming and moderate CPU use is the objective then yes by all means the Envy17 will be demonstratably better, on account of its 6850 GPU.

The 2820 has its benefits -- whether or not those are worth the cost is up to the buyer. for example, the 2820 can use 1600MHz RAM because its memory bandwidth is higher. So if the apps you run are bound by very high data exchanges between RAM/CPU, then you'll want to put 1600MHz RAM in there instead of 1333MHz. Gaming won't benefit from this.

So -- len888 if what you intend to do with this laptop is CPU (not graphics) intensive, and (for example) you will use Intel's trusted execution technology and/or your work includes virtualization, then by all means the 2820 may be worth the upgrade cost. Morover, your DV7's 6770 GPU won't generate as much heat as the Envy 17's 6850!

But -- if you really want to maximize gaming, and those specialized features of the 2820 won't benefit you, then its true you could go for a 2630QM Envy 17 instead. You'll get a stronger 6850 GPU and 3D capability which includes a 120Hz display.

...and backlit keyboard
...and a better wirless card that support "a" in additiona to b/g/n
...and a slot-loading optical drive

 

True, I just figured he thought it was a boost in gaming.

 

How about the upgrade to the 2720qm then, what do you guys tihnk?

 

The 2720qm is a nice upgrade if you have the money. here is where ($150 I think?) for .2GHZ is a nice boost for cpu hungry games. And ofcourse it helps you beat out those dual cores that normally would be faster in single/dual threaded apps/games. The 300 bucks more for .1GHZ to the 2820qm is questionable unless you really need it.

 

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1gb of 6770m.

 

It has an extra 2MB cache as well as the .1GHz speed boost, although I don't think thats worth the $300 either.