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    *HP dv6t & dv7t Select Edition / Quad Edition (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by radukr, Mar 14, 2011.

  1. thedennisvu

    thedennisvu Notebook Enthusiast

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    HP Quick Launch is indeed running. I have two identical dv6t's, one rebuilt to Win7 Ult (clean) and one Win7 HP (OEM) and I even tried to add in the HP Quick Launch registry keys to no avail.
     
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    The difference for the 1280x1080 is 600 dollars with a 2760... i do not think it is worth it. I am getting a external 23" monitor since i am using it mostly at home.
    Thanks for your help :D
     
  3. edit1754

    edit1754 Notebook Prophet

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    Never prioritize the processor over the screen. Just get the 2670M or 2430M instead of the 2760M and get the 1080p screen.

    The screen still makes more of a difference. When using an external monitor, you still use a dual-monitor setup and you can put stuff on both screens.

    What usage of yours do you think benefits noticeably from a 2760? I can pretty much guarantee you'll still benefit from the screen upgrade more.

    If you're using it at home all the time, get a desktop. If you're going to take it on-the-go with you, get the 1920x1080 display so you don't have to deal with the junky multitasking-limiting 768 screen when you don't have your external monitor.

    Either way, there is absolutely no logic in getting a processor upgrade over the screen upgrade.

    15.6" 1366x768 screens are often regarded as "terrible" however the same is not said for i7-2670QM or i5-2430M processors. The lower processors are more than adequate for almost anybody's usage requirements. You should not spend money on a processor upgrade if you have not already gotten the upgrade to a screen better than 1366x768.
     
  4. hopelessnoob

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    in my country there is no choice. For the 1080p screen, you HAVE to get the 2760 for 600 more than the 2630/2670 with 1366x768 screen. i do not think it is worth 600 dollars... so i think when i use it at home i will use the external monitor. when i use it in school i will just bear with the poor screen
    :p
     
  5. hockeymass

    hockeymass that one guy

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    I'm sure there's at least one place in your entire country that doesn't charge 600$ for a screen that doesn't suck.
     
  6. Micker99

    Micker99 Notebook Enthusiast

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    What country are you in. Was looking to get the laptop with the 2760 CPU, but in the USA, they only have the 2670 and the old 2720 not the 2760 yet. Hope they offer it soon here.
     
  7. hopelessnoob

    hopelessnoob Newbie

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    hmm i don't think so unless i import it from the main store... which may be more expensive for me

    ^ i am from singapore
     
  8. QoelQast

    QoelQast Newbie

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    Does somebody know a solution for this issue?
     
  9. huoyjii

    huoyjii Notebook Enthusiast

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    I just wanted to add that I agreed with what others have suggested.

    --> GET THE 1080p Full HD Screen (1920 * 1080) if possible. It makes a HUGE difference.
     
  10. kevmanw4301

    kevmanw4301 Notebook Deity

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    So, I got mine today, and HOLY CRAP, bloatware. Used to Alienware with no bloatware.
     
  11. Websurfer

    Websurfer Notebook Consultant

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    Can you list the bloatware items? Sounds like a lot of unnecessary programs.
     
  12. kevmanw4301

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    Magic Desktop, all HP programs, except for Coolsense, connection manager, and recovery. Ebay, skype, go online, blah blah blah. Dosen't really matter, though, I got it all.
     
  13. Appropriate

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    Mine comes on Tuesday and I'll probably install an SSD almost immediately. I love this sort of crap, so I'll make a list of everything that I decide to keep versus kill. Should see it posted in here on Wednesday or Thursday.
     
  14. scy1192

    scy1192 Notebook Consultant

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    So, considering buying an SSD for my dv6tqe 6000. Is this all I need?:

    1. 2.5" SATAIII SSD (The first bay where the hdd is is the SATAIII one, right?)
    2. Hard drive caddy to mount the HDD in the CD bay (this one is SATAII, correct?)

    I would take the hard drive and cd drive out of the slots, install the hdd along with the caddy into the cd drive slot, install the SSD into the hdd's old bracket inside the hdd bay. Then, reinstall Windows on the SSD. Correct?
     
  15. Appropriate

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    I think you've got it figured out. It doesn't really matter whether the CD bay has a SATA II or III interface, your HDD won't put out even as fast as SATA II is capable of.

    As far as order, I would do it a bit differently: (1) take the HDD out, (2) install SDD in its place, (3) install windows, (4) once all looks good, install the HDD in place of the CD drive.

    I'm looking forward to doing this on my dv7t in a couple of days.

    Cheers! :smile:
     
  16. scy1192

    scy1192 Notebook Consultant

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    Dv7t has 2 HDD bays, so that should be easier for you.

    I wanted to know which one was SATAIII so that I could get a SATAIII SSD. If they both are or if neither are, it would be easier to just put the SSD in the estranged optical bay instead of taking out the HDD.
     
  17. Appropriate

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    I would download this program... CPUID - System & hardware benchmark, monitoring, reporting (download button on right)

    Then, when you open it up, hit the 'drives' button in the upper left, then hit the 'number of disk controller' line item in the window to the right. The bottom text window will then tell you the bandwidth of your SATA controllers. 3gb/s for SATA II, 6gb/s for SATA III.
     
  18. scy1192

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    It says there's 1 disk controller, and that's 6GB/s (should say 6Gb/s probably). The Hard Drive says it's using SATA 2.0 and the CD drive says it's using SATA 1.0. I take it that it doesn't report the version of the interface if the device doesn't support it?
     
  19. Appropriate

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    Ah, I see. It's one controller with multiple ports. It sounds like all controller ports are SATA3, but that your HDD is a SATA2 device and your CD is a SATA1 device.

    So it doesn't matter where you put the HDD (unless the comp likes booting off of port 0 or something like that). You'll have SATA3 bandwidth at either connection.
     
  20. scy1192

    scy1192 Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks. Also, forgot to ask: can I use any regular 2.5" SSD or do I need one that has a mSATA connector?
     
  21. Appropriate

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    Just a regular 2.5" sata3 drive. I don't think the HP's even have a mSATA connection.
     
  22. yurchik

    yurchik Notebook Enthusiast

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    can you advise me good 120gb or 160 gb ssd drive with not expensive price?
    thanks
     
  23. Appropriate

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    Crucial or Intel seem to be the best bang for the buck quality wise. If you want to save money, look for 120gb over 160gb, and sata2 over sata 3. I think you're taking your chances with OCZ's cheaper drives.

    Taking that into account, I'd recommend this for a sata2 drive:

    Newegg.com - Intel 320 Series SSDSA2CW120G3K5 2.5" 120GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)

    and this for a sata3 drive:

    Newegg.com - Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
     
  24. yurchik

    yurchik Notebook Enthusiast

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    oh, i thought i get sheaper variants)) anyway thanks

    one more question
    if if take this model without graphic card can i install 6700m or 6990m in future?
     
  25. Appropriate

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    I think the safe assumption is that you will not be able to add a graphics card to a laptop later. There is a thread on here somewhere about that.
     
  26. kevmanw4301

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    Some laptops you can add a different GPU later, but not this one.
     
  27. Websurfer

    Websurfer Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks! I look forward to your post.

    Anyone know if the DVD OS disk that you can purchase at the time of order includes the bloatware?
     
  28. evancg

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    I tried searching and can't find an answer...I purchased a built-to-order dv6t quad edition and I'm in the process of setting it up. I used the HP "Warranty Check" the Support Assistant has and to my surprise it said two years. Confused I dug up the paperwork in the box and it also says two year warranty.

    I double checked my order and HP Shopping website and both indicate the dv6tqe includes a one year warranty (the dv7tqe is the only one reflecting the free two year warranty).

    Has anyone else noticed this? Is it an HP error in our favor or just a recent upgrade they decided to provide that isn't reflecting on the website yet?
     
  29. Falco152

    Falco152 Notebook Demon

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    Depends ....
    Typically, it just 1 year warranty. There are some (pretty much most) credit card companies provide free additional services to their customers. One of them is if you purchase certain electronics, they would automatically an additional year of basic warranty.

    Use Your Credit Cards' Extended Warranty
     
  30. evancg

    evancg Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah I use my American Express for electronic purchases because it gives the free one year warranty, but HP wouldn't know anything about that and the credit card warranties don't actively extend the warranty with HP directly (I've used the warranty service through my credit card before). This is different - this is literally HP saying my DV6TQE has a two year warranty (which means my AmEx now makes it a three year warranty).
     
  31. Falco152

    Falco152 Notebook Demon

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    Some OEM shop have special agreements with credit cards companies. Usually they just automatically add it in as part of your order as you saw.

    I ordered a 2yr accidental ... I ended up with 3yr basic with 2yr accidental on my order form.

    You can call HP to refund that additional warranty
     
  32. AutoArc

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    I have been having an issue for a few weeks but it got worse. Every once in a while (every few days), the screen goes black and I get a message that the video driver stopped working and has recovered, but a couple of times the black screen is succeeded by the BSoD. I haven't updated the video driver yet, in hopes that it happens again and I can catch the error codes. I have the fixed graphics set on the HD 6770m all the time.
     
  33. Appropriate

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    So I got my HP earlier this week. Per a request from a week or so ago, here is a list of what I kept and didn't keep. I was not very aggressive.

    There were some folders I wanted to delete, but it wouldn't let me. I'm gonna handle those later.

    Programs Uninstalled
    - Bing Bar (Microsoft search bar)
    - Blio (some sort of e-book reader)
    - CyberLink PowerDVD 10 (video viewer/purchaser)
    - Evernote (some crap about keeping 'notes')
    - HP Documentation
    - Magic Desktop (an alternative desktop with activities for kids (try the parrot before u delete))
    - Microsoft Office 2010 (it's just an offer to buy)
    - Windows Live Essentials 2011 (well, I tried, it just won't go away... but it did uninstall its subcomponents)
    - Windows Live Mesh ActiveX Control

    Programs Kept
    - Adobe Flash
    - Adobe Reader
    - Adobe Shockwave
    - ATI Catalyst Install Mgr
    - CyberLink YouCam (for now)
    - Energy Star Digital Logo (I have no idea why I kept this, I think it's JUST the logo)
    - HP 3D DriveGuard
    - HP Connection Manager
    - HP DVB-T TV Tuner
    - HP Games (for now)
    - HP MovieStore (for now)
    - HP On Screen Display
    - HP Power Manager
    - HP Quick Launch
    - HP Setup
    - HP Setup Manager (for now)
    - HP SimplePass 2011
    - HP Software Framework
    - HP Support Assistant (for now)
    - IDT Audio
    - Intel PROSet/Wireless for Bluetooth
    - Intel PROSet/Wireless WiFI
    - Intel WiDi
    - Intel Display Audio Driver
    - Intel Mgmt Engine COmponents
    - Intel Rapid Storage Technology
    - Java
    - Microsoft Silverlight
    - Microsoft SQL Server
    - Microsoft Visual C++
    - Norton Internet Security (for now... as soon as this expires it's gone)
    - PlayReady PC
    - Realtek Ethernet Controller Driver
    - Realtek PCIE Card Reader
    - Renesas Electronics USB 3.0 Host
    - RoxioNow Player (works with HP MovieStore)
    - Synaptics Pointing Device Driver
    - Validity WBF DDK (fingerprint reader)

    Deleted From Desktop
    - eBay link
    - HP Support Assistant shortcut
    - Snapfish link
    - Norton Internet Security shortcut

    Kept on Desktop
    - System Icons (Recycle Bin, etc.)
    - Play HP Games shortcut

    Deleted from Quick Start Bar
    HP Download Store
    Windows Live Photo Gallery
    HP Setup Manager
    Windows Media Player
    Internet Explorer (brrrrrr.... also turned off this as a windows component from control panel... Chrome FTMFW).

    Kept on Quick Start Bar
    Libraries/Windows Explorer Button

    Removed from Start Menu
    Free Trials for Quicken & TurboTax
    Windows Live Mail
    Windows Live Messenger
    Windows Live Movie Maker
    Windows Live Photo Gallery
    [FOLDER] Music and Media
    [FOLDER] Online Services
    [FOLDER] Theft Protection
    [FOLDER] Windows Live

    Deleted from Drive
    [FOLDER] Program Files/Online Services
    [FOLDER] Program Files/Windows Live
    [FOLDER] Program Files (x86)/K-NFB Reading Tech (Blio folder)
    [FOLDER] Program Files (x86)/Microsoft (empty)
    [FOLDER] Program Files (x86)/Online Services
    [FOLDER] Program Files (x86)/Windows Live
     
  34. nextari

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    thanks, it sounds like mines ill then. Def. not the optical drive. (ejected it, sound continues) I've been told by HP that if they find HDD has failed, they will send you a new one for you to swap out, with restore disks. I would love to know what magic words they need to hear to convince them (short of total failure/bad sectors) to send a new one. I'd rather not wait for it to die.
     
  35. nextari

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    does it strike anyone as ironic that HERE, in a computer forum, our very forum format is not at all organised and all answers to all questions get dumped in one big colossal pile. why is there not different (threads?) or whatever for each subject and query? maybe I'm missing something.
     
  36. Appropriate

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    No doubt. And the search function within the thread doesn't seem to work right all the time. It's a disaster.
     
  37. Appropriate

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    I just thought of something... they should make a thread defragger.
     
  38. nextari

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    wow, thanks! very helpful indeed! something i surely would not have guessed!
     
  39. BigOh

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    Guys, I have read about a mod to help with the DV6's heating issue which involves drilling holes on the case, below the fan. I presume it would help in air intake. Would this mod void my warranty?
     
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    SEARCHING THIS FORUM: please see the next post about how to search! cryptic enough, but it works.
     
  41. Websurfer

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    Thanks Appropriate for posting the preinstalled programs. Are these programs included on the recovery DVD?
     
  42. Appropriate

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    I have a feeling the answer is no. There are 2 recovery discs, and they are titled "System Recovery DVD Windows 7 Recovery Media for Windows 7 Products Service Pack 1."

    Yet the recovery discs I created straight from the computer took up 4 discs. And to throw another monkey wrench into this, my downloaded Win7 SP1 64 bit install disc is just that, 1 disc.

    I would guess that the 2 HP discs have windows and the current drivers, but not all the extras.
     
  43. Izagaia

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    You created recovery media onto four (4) DVD's. HP sends their recovery media onto two (2) DVD-DL's. What HP sends out, is exactly the same as what you create.
     
  44. Izagaia

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    You probably would have been better served if you had just used the MSI option off of the Recovery Manager. It would format your notebook with only Windows, necessary drivers and OEM branding (images). Pretty much the same as a clean install. Absolutely none of the trial or bloatware would be on your machine. Regardless of what you delete or uninstall, you will have leftovers that you will never be rid of. This includes the registry. After performing the MSI, it is a simple matter of going back into the Recovery Manager and selecting what app/programs you do want on your machine from a list. :)
     
  45. Appropriate

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    That will be for next time. I was putting an SSD in. I tried a clean windows (from windows disc) install, but couldn't get the fingerprint reader to work. I was positive I had the right drivers and software loaded, but no luck. So I ended up just cleaning the original drive as I described, and then porting it over to the SSD. I would have liked a cleaner option, but was tired of messing with it. What does "MSI" stand for?
     
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    hello to all hp dv7 6b51ea question -sorry tried posting this in several areas to get some info.

    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    am new to this forum so hi first of all. Sorry if this post is in the wrong place.



    I am awaiting delivery of a pavilion dv7-6b51ea, it has 8gb mem, a 1tb hd and a quad core i7 267qm 2.2.



    I have been reading about solid state hard disks and am wondering 1, could I swap the primary hd from the machine for a ssd and if I did do this, even if it was smaller and just used for the os, would I see improvements in the speed of boot up etc,~? I believe this machine has 2 hdd so I was considering using a ssd for the primary os disk and the recovery partition and the second 500gb drive for data storage.



    Is this possible, and if so would it bring improvements? Would cloning the original disk enable me to install my os to the ssd as i have no disks with machine just a recovery partition with the option to make a recovery disk.?



    Lastly if I did any of this would it invalidate my warranty?



    Thanks



    Andy
     
  47. Izagaia

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    MSI = minimal system install. It's an option available to you through the Recovery Manager. You simply startup/boot from the recovery disks you created. It is almost exactly like using the Recovery Manager while in Windows, however here you will have a few more options to choose from. The MSI is located on the far left column of options. My description may seem alittle vague, so if it does, my apologies and rest assured, there are great tutorials made by members more qualified than I, here on the forums describing exactly what to do.
     
  48. Izagaia

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    A SSD almost always brings improvements over traditional SATA HDD's. Though, I would imagine it depends mostly upon the drive you choose. With the SSD in my dv6tqe (purchased from HP), Windows boots to login screen in 15-20 seconds. Ready to go in less than 30 seconds total with everything loaded. However make your recovery disks first, before any changes. You can put your primary OS and recovery partition on the same drive. You just cannot have them seperated between two drives. Also, you have to have the SSD in the correct bay. There are threads here that explain the process for installing a seperately purchased SSD into the dv6/7 and what to do in your situation. And I do not know for certain, however I would imagine that installing your own drive does not void your warranty since it is considered a "user-replaceable part" by HP.
     
  49. Appropriate

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    I timed my boot before the SSD and it was 39 seconds. After it was 18. Using a Crucial M4.
     
  50. chucko83

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    lol, you gave me crap before and you can't figure this out? sorry i don't have any advice, i put drivers/software in and it worked :confused: the clean install is nice, went from like 90 something processes to around 50 or 60, you should try adn get it workign with a clean isntal!

    what SSD tweaks you do? mine boots in about 22 seconds, and i can fully restart in less than 30 seconds. the only "tweaks" i did was turn off defrag and i checked to make sure it was in ahci mode.

    oh and im taking into account the bios loading too. luckily it's a REAL quick bios during boot.
     
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