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    *HP dv6t & dv7t Select Edition / Quad Edition (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by radukr, Mar 14, 2011.

  1. yun

    yun Notebook Deity

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    23rd today, still no shipping information yet
    Looks like HP do the last day shipping again -.-........
    They always shipped notebooks to me at the end of est
     
  2. radukr

    radukr Notebook Geek

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    Same here... I guess it will not be ship out until est date which is 25th my case.
     
  3. bigbirdpaulie

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    The Hard Drives of the Dv7 support SATA III, correct? I really want to put in a vertex 3 ssd when they hit the market.

    On page 25 of the manual for the dv7, it lists the hard drive HARDWARE kit as part "641306-001," including BOTH brackets and cables. In the part store it is $33.25, but there is a 15% off coupon, "US21000015", making it $28.26. Shipping ($11.25) and tax ($2.37) brought it to $41.88. It's a much better price than previous versions if I'm not mistaken. There's no way the secondary bracket and wiring will magically be included if I only ordered a single hard drive set up, correct?

    Thanks
     
  4. radukr

    radukr Notebook Geek

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    Since no SSD have reached SATA2 speed limit, SATA3 dose mean nothing for now. They are compatible, and there is no bottleneck effect or speed differences between them.
     
  5. bigbirdpaulie

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but the new Intel 510 Series SATA III drives are out which are much better than SATA II versions.
     
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    You are misinformed. There are a handful of consumer SSD that have definitely broken the SATA II standard and require SATA III for full performance.
     
  7. bigbirdpaulie

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    nevermind...disregard this
     
  8. radukr

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    I was wrong. The SSD which has over 300MB/s sequence speed defiantly performs better on SATA3.
     
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    I agree that it's not a very good color. The previous dv qe was nice looking. I think I'll learn to not care especially since I need a notebook now and don't want to wait for the new color. It's decently spec'd for a "decent" price. But
    I'm pretty damn sure there will be a new color...
     
  11. Rigwald

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    I haven't received mine yet, but I happen to like the color, from what I've seen.
     
  12. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

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    If it has better cooling than the older ovens, I see no reason to complain.
     
  13. ArchAngel777

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    Umber looks fine to me... As long as they don't put wooden mouldings on it.. Mine has still not shipped yet. Really hoping to receive it before my business trip on the 4th.
     
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    Does anyone know when the first ones are expected to be received ? Mine won't get here until around April 6.
     
  15. Wolfpup

    Wolfpup Notebook Prophet

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    Kinda, although the real performance issue with storage is random reads and rights, which don't get anywhere near SATA II's limits, and actually the second gen Intel drives with their own controller beat the 250GB drive with Marvell's controller for that (as well as most of everything else still).

    Anyway point being I woudln't freak out too much even if it didn't have the updated interface! :)
     
  16. sparkj

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    Guys, I can't help but be jealous of all your coupons =(
    I'm here in Hong Kong, where they don't have any discounts whatsoever.

    Given the XPS 15 costs the SAME with no tax at HKD 10,680 (~USD 1300), would you buy it at this price?


    1) dv6t quad Core i7-2630QM, 1TB-5400rpm, 8GB DDR3 1333MHz (2x4G), 15.6" HD LED BV, DVD+/-RW, AMD Radeon HD 6770M w/1G, BGN WLAN /NIC /BT, 1 year warranty.

    I've seen the old dv6t in person, and even just running the screen saver at the shop, the palmrest was hot to touch!

    I guess what my main concerns are:

    1) do you think this computer be able to play D3 on decent settings? (like, at least medium quality?)
    2) how is the Beats sound quality? (can i watch a movie with low sound on it at a decent volume?)
    3) how is the quality of the screen? (I'm a noob with screens, all that color gamut and stuff don't make sense. I'm not too concerned about FHD, just the brightness and the color quality)
     
  17. xxbadboys93

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    Guys please help, is this dv6t better than the xps 15 that has the 2gb nvida 540m vs the hp's 1gb 5770.
    How is the build quality for the hp laptop
    any good reviews on it (youtube) or any other

    what should i do lol xps or this. I already ordered the xps so im guessing i can cancel this.
     
  18. Botsu

    Botsu Notebook Evangelist

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    Don't know about the overall quality but the GT540M can't touch the 6770M. That card is a beast, for a midrange mobile GPU.
     
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    radukr Notebook Geek

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    Yes G3 have somewhat no difference 4K Random to G2.. What a shame Intel :(
    Even 510 defeated by Vertex 3 in sequence, 4k random, IOPS. I think golden age of Intel SSD have gone now.
     
  20. Wolfpup

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    I'd guess it's 540 < 6770 < 555...although come to think of it I'm not sure what the best GPU is for the XPS 15, I'm thinking of the 17.

    Okay, regarding the XPS 15, things I don't like are that the hard drive is super hard to get at (apparently easy on the Pavilion-as well as the XPS 17). Nvidia's got better drivers, BUT I hate Optimus and don't want it, and these mid and low end Nvidia parts are doing Optimus now.

    Between those two the 6770 should be a bit better...basically 96 versus 480 cores, with the 96 cores being worth about 4x that in terms of AMD cores....oh, and it MAY have double the ROPs too...I'm not clear on that.

    So other than driver support, I like the Pavilion better than the XPS 15.

    Gets more complex with the XPS 17 since that's easy to get at the hard drive + has a more powerful GPU.
     
  21. Wolfpup

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    This new one is actually a bit worse with random stuff...more like other brand's drives. But this actually isn't a G3. That's still coming. This is still using 32nm flash, and uses a Marvell controller instead of Intel, but still validated and everything by Intel so supposedly rock solid. Basically has better sequential performance, worse random performance, and a larger max 250GB versus 160GB capacity.

    I personally actually prefer the older model if not for the larger capacity...but I'm thinking of getting a 250GB Intel drive (or possibly Crucial?) *IF* I end up buying a system with two drive bays :D
     
  22. radukr

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    Since there is no benchmark data of 6770M, we can only do is assume.
    NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M - Notebookcheck.net Tech
    AMD Radeon HD 6770M - Notebookcheck.net Tech
    I think 6770M would be better than 540M GT.

    Build quality is quite similar and XPS have better display resolution.
    Dv6t is slightly lighter, and have better battery performance.
     
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    I mean real 'G3' not Marvell infected '510'. G3 really sucks. I have been waiting this about 6 months, but decided to stick with G1. :(
    You can find leaked informations and benchmark data over hardware sites.
    http://en.expreview.com/2010/10/28/intel-x25-m-g3-ssd-debuts-at-taobao/11208.html
     
  24. Wolfpup

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    Since they aren't shipping yet, who knows-but those figures may actually be good IMO, because of random performance. Just have to wait I guess, but personally I'd have no qualms buying one, baring any bizarre problems that crop up. Sure wish the 600GB model was $500 though :-D I'd actually be able to stick that in a single bay notebook...
     
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    http://en.expreview.com/2011/03/23/world-exclusive-review-intel-g3-ssd-80gb/15569.html
    Here is full detailed 8 page review. Price is same as G2. Sequence is same as G2. 4K Random become worse. Only improvements is 4 times longer life that Intel claims.
     
  26. Wolfpup

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    I'm skeptical until it's actually ANNOUNCED as a product :laugh: let alone until Anandtech deals with it.
     
  27. MikeMan

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    Hi Everyone,
    Does anyone here actually have the new dv7t QE yet?

    I recently bought the "old" version (5000 series) and have been using it for about a week. I like it alot, but the keyboard has issues (bad space bar) and then I discovered it also has the faulty SB chipset according to this website:

    Intel® Chipset Design Issue May Affect Certain HP Desktop and Notebook PCs HP Pavilion dv6t-6000 CTO Entertainment Notebook PC - HP Customer Care (United States - English)

    Then I discovered the new 6000 series can be had for slightly LESS than I paid for the 5000 using the 30% coupon. Plus it has a USB 3.0, better touch pad, and higher-end Radeon card (6770 vs 6570). But I'm not wild about the new color (brown) & case, which appears to be bulkier & heavier.

    So I'm now wondering if it's worth it to make the switch, in terms of time & general hassle; and if anyone here has actually had any experience with the new one. Or knows of a website that has. Obviously if the 6000's a lemon then I should probably keep what I have!

    Thanks in advance for any insights...
     
  28. taxmantoo

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    It went on sale on the USA web site on the 13th, with estimated ship dates right about now, but I haven't seen anybody mention that their DV7-6000 was en route or in hand yet. I ordered a couple last night with April 8 ship dates, which is perfect for me because I'll have time to play with them around the 15th or so.

    I don't know if any reviewers got advance samples, but I haven't read any hands-on information except from somebody who played with a display sample in a store in Singapore. (all I can remember him saying was that the GPU was full speed, but the GDDR5 was slightly underclocked)
     
  29. whodeymaster

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    I ordered mine on the first day it was out and it is not expected to ship until tomorrow and then it will take a while to ship here so I should beable to give first impressions on it mid next week.
     
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    Anyone have an idea if wd is going to release the odd/ssd hybrid? I know they just bought hitachi. Hope they didn't scrap the project. Would be a perfect addition to the dv6 I ordered.

    Hitachi-LG's Blu-ray/SSD Hybrid Now Smaller

    Also... This may sound like a stupid question but do you think the backlit keyboard from the envy 17 would fit in the new dv's? If they fit and you can get power to it, you'd have a backlit keyboard in your dv6 or dv7. Kinda like what they did with the asus.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/asus/465841-ul30-backlit-keyboard-mod.html
     
  31. MikeMan

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    Excellent. I (we) eagerly await your thoughts! :)
     
  32. yun

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    24th, no shippment info
    HP is really playing dead line game or delay?

    Going to cancel it if they delay
     
  33. Rigwald

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    When I called, I was explicitely told that it was impossible. When I told them that someone else had stacked the 30% with the instant savings/rebate, the response was that it was not true. :-(
     
  34. City Pig

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    If they're taking this long, there might be supply issues. The B3 chipset hasn't hit full volume yet.
     
  35. Falco152

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    It be awhile to reach full supply, the reason why they do things a year in advance.

    Also, coupons can stack, just trial and error really.
    It just not that easy. I find Dell much easier to stack.
     
  36. City Pig

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    Intel's aiming for mid April.
     
  37. antonpug

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    If you ordered your laptop after February 27th (that is when they restarted manufacturing with corrected chipsets), then you have a machine that is not affected. I talked with Intel, the new corrected chipset will still be called the same name in device manager. No need to worry.
     
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    I hear a lot about HP cooling issues, my dv7-5000 actually doesn't get all that hot under normal usage. Not any hotter than my old Dell Vostro 1000
     
  39. fcw0

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    I heard that HP supposedly fixed the cooling issue but we shall soon find out whether this is the case or not.
     
  40. Jerohm

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    what about what CPU-Z reports (see attached)?? How on earth would one be expected to determine exactly WHAT they have, if everything still reports the same?? These images were from the dv6tqe ordered 02Mar/delivered 11Mar. Direct your Intel contact to THESE images... trying to talk to someone at HP that would even understand, is next to impossible.

    Ref: http://www.intel.com/Consumer/Products/Processors/chipset.htm
     

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    I suspect you got one of the motherboards that Intel allowed to be sold if and only if the manufacturer promised not to use the defective SATA ports.
    I believe this is why the DV6 could be ordered with Sandy Bridge on March 2 and the DV7 could not. The DV7 has two hard drive bays, so they couldn't begin selling it until March 13 when motherboards with the good chipset were available.
     
  42. Jerohm

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    maybe, but MY understanding is that Port 0/1 the fast ports were fine, Ports 2/3/4/5 the slower ports had an issue. I am NOT sure how the whole esata port works into the equation either. In any case, it has been returned and I just ordered one of the new dv7t (I liked the silver case, hated the trackpad buttons, and missed the 900x1600 and audio my studio 1747 had)
     
  43. taxmantoo

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    I think you may be right. Did the one you returned have eSATA, or just hard and optical drives?
     
  44. Jerohm

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    it HAD an eSATA port ... whether it functioned is unknown. It wasn't worth MY time trying to find a contact at HP who was qualified to determine the real answers. I had already ordered the new dv7t. I INFORMED HP of my concern ... now it is pretty much in their court. There MAY be a reasonable and logical answer, but it was just TOO HARD to get in touch with a person with enough technical expertise to answer such.
     
  45. taxmantoo

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    I did a little searching and I think this is how it works:
    There are SATA III ports, SATA II ports, and eSATA ports.
    Only the SATA II ports are bad. Therefore a notebook with two drives in the SATA III ports and an open eSATA port would be OK, as far as Intel knows.

    A DV7 with two SATA III hard drive bays and a SATA II optical drive bay would not be OK unless it got the redesigned chipset.
     
  46. radukr

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    eSATA uses one of internal ports, so it would be defected one.
     
  47. Jerohm

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    okay, but if you look at the devmgr.png, you will see Port 2 is used for SOMETHING... I AM told, you can undervolt those ports(2-5) at the expense of some speed, and you won't see the problem. I would just like to get the real story out of HP, on exactly how things are being handled... 'cause right now, it just looks not quite right... and it may be just fine.
     
  48. antonpug

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    Wow. I just installed this tool. B2.

    What a bunch of jerks...they all lied to me saying that I have the corrected system? Wow.
     
  49. fcw0

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    You already have yours? Is it the newest refresh because if it is then you might be the first person to get theirs.
     
  50. radukr

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    No. He ordered on March 2nd/delivered 11th.
    And new version was on sale on March 13th.

    The problem is HP rep. lied to him.
     
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