*HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

Awesome! Glad we have a rep here, did not realize that. One of these days I'll get the nerve to update an LCD for some reason.

 

Nice to see the info, thanks!

 

Just got my refurb. There were hair follicles on the computer. That wasn't a big deal...whatever...someone had a haircut nearby when they were refurbing it.

The big deal? There appears to be a 1 cm long piece of hair INSIDE the panel. I'm PISSED. What a horrendous refurb job. Jesus, did these guys even do antying to fix this? There also appears to be a some glue material on the bezel that i took off.

Disgusting!

I've ordered a dozen dell refurbs in the last decade and three in the last year alone and they were indiscernible from new. I'm pretty pissed.

 

Sorry to hear that. Definitely give them hell and get it exchanged or returned.

 

It was an ebay reseller. HP is willing to repair it.

Honestly, it's not a BIG deal because I've got plenty of other computers to use but I was thinking about this all day lol. I had my portable drive of programs and files and had all the relevant bookmarks from this site (including some of your posts) in order to start playing around with this.

Now I'm staring at it in anger.

*edit* What is up with HP not sending you parts to repair for yourself? I've had several manufacturers send me out panels to swap out without a hitch. They want me to send it in for what should be a quick fix. CS is super nice though.

 

I have a small issue that I'm hoping that I can get some assistance with from this awesome community.

I have a refurb dv6-6135dx with camolil's modded bios w/o the gpu OC and I have fixed switchable graphics enabled using the high performance GPU. However as I was testing my custom clocks using kombustor, I noticed that my 6750m wasnt at 100% load (it would be something like 94%-98%) and then iGPU activity would spike very often throughout the duration of the test.

Is there any way that I can stop the iGPU from interfering at all, so I can make sure that I'm testing only the 6750m?

 

Deal for a dv7 at woot today.

 

That's normal for Kombustor. Not sure what the iGPU load is showing but it's typical I've noticed it even with fixed dedicated GPU.

 

To my knowledge there is a bus from socket to dGPU and from socket to Vout. Frame data from the 6750M streams through the APU to reach your LCD.

It is very rare for a dGPU to read perfect 100% load coninually, even in Kombustor. The IGPU spikes should be typical and related to the passthrough function.

A better use for Crossfire in these machines would be either trading partially rendered frames or doing post process/combine on finished frames. For example, MLAA with *hinting* plus full-frame motion blur without any impact to the dGPU's clean render speeds. That was the one issue with Crysis 2: turning very rapidly just after loading a new area. With deferred motion blur, there would never be that extra load on the mem/shaders.

kevhuynh: I am sorry to see you had such an issue. Most (but not all) refurbs arrived without scratches, dust or fingerprints, and with protective appliques for shipping. But HP should manage the issue. Be sure to include a paper note taped to the lid, and do a little performance checking before you ship to ensure nothing else is amiss.

 

That .WOOT listing is a decent multimedia laptop. It has bluray and 65W adapter, A6-3400M and 9-cell battery. Essentially you're getting a BDROM instead of A8-3500M+HD6750M. For some folks this would be a good trade, and battery life will be excellent for mobile movies. You still get hardware accelerated playback with AMD's superior colorspace, and the CPU will still overclock. It will manage okay on Eve, WoW or possibly ToR, at least 50% better than HD3000.

 

I know this isn't exactly the right forum to be asking this, but since y'all are so knowledgeable about CrossFireX, what the heck?

Here's the deal:

My HTPC case is so small that it won't accomodate a video card, but my ASUS motherboard (with an A4-3300) will. However, if I got a PCI-E extender and used the smallest card I can find, it might still fit in the case.

So...if this were CrossFired, would I still be able to use the HDMI out jack on the motherboard, or does the insertion of the external card disable it? (I guess the same question would apply to a MB with an embedded GPU as well.)

 

You should be able to set in your BIOS which video card is primary. But with CrossfireX would probably need to go through the onboard video out since it's the one that manages the CrossfireX not the external video card. I didn't realize desktop boards supported CrossfireX.

 

Hi, I have the acer 5560g with a 6650m graphics card. I was wondering if there was a modified bios for the 6650 like you guys have with your 6750? Also is there a way to up the voltage a tiny bit on these cards?

 

You'll want to see if there is a similar owners thread for the Acer laptop. It has different manufacturer and different BIOS onboard. 6650m should be overclock capable, probably no voltage control, most of the dv6z stuff about Afterburner should apply.

 

Yeah, I my brother got an ASUS k53t, that laptop has the 6650m and it can be overclocked by the Afterburner program.

 

If it is the K53t, I believe I read that they did get a unlocked bios but it does not save. Also, only intel +dGPU can mess with dGPU voltage atm iirc.

 

there doesn't seem to be an owner's lounge for my laptop. Would it be possible to have someone mod a vbios with overclocked settings so I can turn on ULPS to save battery life.

Why is it that only intel +dGPU can alter the voltage settings? Can you not mod that into the vbios?

 

I can probably help you out. Please give me a direct link to the latest bios of your model, your desired core and memory speeds, and I'll see what I can do

 

http://global-download.acer.com/GDF...ep3=ASPIRE 5560G&OS=ALL&LC=en&BC=ACER&SC=PA_7


Gee thanks a lot. Is the overclock more stable when you alter it directly compared to MSI afterburner? I get AMD driver has stopped responding if i go higher than 760 on the clock
If so id like to try 770/970 but if it isnt more stable 755/960 will do


Thanks a bunch

 

No, should be exactly the same. 755/960 it is! Please give me a bit of time, I'll see if I can do it now, but it's 4:45 AM right now, so I might finish it tomorrow if it takes too long for my liking

 

One question: You're using the windows flasher, correct?

edit: Ah, the acer windows flasher is a biatch. Any chance you could use the dos version instead?

edit2: Please give me the stock speed of your GPU core and memory as well, please. Will help me find the correct values to change. Please check them with gpu-z while running a 3d application. They aren't always the same as the stock clocks determined by AMD. I know for example HP sometimes underclocks the GPU. Not sure if Acer does that as well, but it's better to check just to make sure

 

the stock speed is 600 by 900. Ive always used the windows flasher but I can try the bios version instead. Do you know how to use the DOS version?

 

Use a windows 98 cd or something to boot into DOS, windows ME also has that functionality... but I think those flashers already include an utility to boot from USB stick, MSDOS is safer by the way...

 

By the way... welcome back Musho

 

Never been gone, always lurking Spooky!

 

Just by curiosity, you haven't happened to modify an ASUS bios for a 6650m? (normally found in the samsung equivalent one as the user a few posts back)

 

Well I haven't heard anything since. I hope he's not having too much of a problem with it

 

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I second that meme. Nice homework.

 

So i just bought the laptop i posted earlier and looking to upgrade the hard drive to either a hybrid or 7200 rpm . are there compartility issuea or any laptop hard drive is fine?

 

I replaced the stock HDD with a Seagate MomentusXT 500GB 2.5" drive. Works very well, boot times are very reduced and the 7200 RPM speed is a nice boost over the 5400 RPM one. I haven't had any issues in the 6 months I've been using it. Just removed the old one and installed the new one, very easy.

 

The Momentus XT is awesome-I've been using a first gen one for a few years now. Just make sure the firmware is up to date (easier to update with Seagate's tool than what Intel gives you!)

I'd get a second gen one now though, the 750GB drive, as besides being larger, it also has 2x the SLC cache of the first gen drive. But that first gen drive (same one I have) is great in it's own right.

 

Is it just me or does everybody have trust issues with SSDs? I really want to upgrade to an m4 but SSD failure rate deters me from buying one.

 

SSD failure rate isn't that bad. OCZ's track record with the Vertex 2 and Agility 2 series made all SSD's look bad, but all that's behind them. The biggest failure mode with SSD's are the controllers. They seem sensitive, although latest gens seem pretty robust so far, not to mention 3-5 year warranties that they're pretty generous with. Just backup/image regularly as you always should and you'll be fine.

 

How does SYNDICATE play for everyone?

Right now, for me:

Resolution - 1440x900
Bit Depth - RGBA16
AA - OFF
Texture Filtering - MAX
Model Shadows - MAX
VSync - OFF


Results: 48fps min. 57fps avg. 75fps max. (used FRAPS)

With:

Bit Depth - RGBA8

I can run 1080p and achieve the same results above.



Oh, and I'm running the 11.6b drivers, paired with some HP 'manually detect' drivers - avoiding AMD's updated ones at all cost.

The 12.1's would BSOD me in Photoshop if I was doing a lot on screen. I kept losing all my work, so saving it became tedious to avoid risk of losing it... again. Not to mention just random BSOD's having the laptop idle for a few days. I've clean installed them too, so it wasn't 'driver problem' but more like was the problem.

It's been almost a week running straight with the old drivers, continuous and stress use, and not a hitch or BSOD since.
All in the meanwhile running Fixed and at full OC's.
I think it's finally solid.

 

Would love to see the percentage of failure rate of HDDs v SSds, right out of the box, after 30 days, etc. Oh yeah...failure by accidents count too.

The tech is still too new to see real-life MTBF comparisons, but...I'd be willing to put money on the SSD all the way around.

 

There's plenty of data for NAND life span, and that's well understood. It's really the controllers that are the biggest wild card, since that's pretty much been the failure mode for most of the SSD's that I've heard of. There were some documents floating around that showed return / RMA rates of SSD vs HDD, but no clue where it's at.

 

I have a dv6z 6100 quad, A6-3400M, 6750M dedicated video. Seems identical to the 6135dx except for the processor. I'm looking for a spare AC adapter. Did anyone try this one from Amazon for about $26? The input/output seems to match what's on my 120W HP OEM ac adapter that came with the laptop. Thanks.

 

There's this:

A Peek Into SSD Reliability : Investigation: Is Your SSD More Reliable Than A Hard Drive?

It's a little old, but it'll do nicely, and bears up what I said.

Before anyone "cherry picks" the data, notice that the average return rate for an SSD is considerably lower overall, and though OCZ is higher than other SSDs (as of 2010...old data), at it's worst case, it's still more than competetive with HDDs.

Also, trending is important. SSDs are trending toward more reliability, while HDD is holding steady on failure rates.

So can we kill the arguments over HDD v SSD in this thread once and for all, and the OCZ-bashing?

I'll never go back to an HDD as a boot drive again, regardless of price and reliability. (But don't think that I don't do regular Acronis backups!)

 

Apparently flash made at smaller die processes is less reliable, plus it can't hold it's data as long as a mechanical drive theoretically can.

Anyway, I wanted to post that there's a 30% off coupon on this sucker again!

Soooooo tempting, but geez...we'll get Trinity in April, right? Argh. So tempting, but I hate to get it, and 30 days later there's something more powerful for the same price.

(Although I'm still kind of wondering how what's basically a dual core Piledriver compares to a quad Stars...)

 

Trinity hasn't been confirmed for April. They said by Q3 2012, which could be any time between now and September...

And flash manufactured with a smaller process is not less reliable, it just has less longevity, fewer writes. I still don't understand why they keep on shrinking it. I'd rather they focus on cost cutting because shrinking the process hasn't dropped prices much if at all. In any case if you get 120GB or larger even with 1000-1200 writes, that's about 3 years if you wrote 120GB to the drive EVERY DAY. Realistically, even a normal heavy user may do 10GB a day, which makes it 30 years... average Joe users do like 2-3GB a day makes it 90 years... not a huge issue. So imagine as SSD prices get cheaper, a 240GB drive will be double that life span.

And good info there clarkkent57. +1

 

How do you guys get battlefield 3 to run exceptionally well on this machine?

I have stock clocks on the gpu due to msi afterburner causing the game to launch successfully and the cpu I can overclock to 2.4ghz. What exactly are you guys doing to make it so you can at least play on caspian border on all low?

Sidenote: My resolution is 1366x768.

 

There's no direct comparison that I could find, core per core (aka single-threaded applications.) My guess, however, is that Piledriver will be about equal to Stars in single-threading (which is disappearing quickly) clock-per-clock.

However, @ max threads with all things equal (same # of threads), Bulldozer will give anywhere from 15-30% more performance than Stars in CPU-bound tasks like transcoding, clock per clock. Piledriver is supposed to give BD+10% performance.

Announced after original projections, Cyclos clock mesh resonance tech could conceivably allow AMD to clock higher for stock speeds, perhaps another 10% (and they should). However clock speeds don't necessarily directly result in proportional performance.

(However, given that AMD's line has traditionally been better OC'ers than Intel, it stands to reason that AMD should wise up and raise the stock clocks.)

Piledriver's also removing the L3 which was known to slow down Bulldozer, and there's just no gauge for what that will do right now.

I'd like to say, through last-minute changes (clocks, mesh, whatever) to original projections, along with Windows scheduling fixes (applicable to Piledriver and BD, but not Stars), we'd see about a 20-25% performance increase overall, but there's just no way of knowing for certain until benchmarks get released/leaked.

I'd go with Trinity too, but I'd rather wait for Kaveri because the GCN graphics will offer increased graphic parallelism and also direct GPU FPU assistance to the CPU through on-die parallel connection, and whatever core improvements come with Steamroller. I think that, compared to current Llano/Sabine, that's where the major gains will be appreciated, from a cost point of view. (Why buy Trinity if you've already got Sabine, when you could wait a year or less and get Kaveri for about what you'd pay for Trinity?)

 

Try this, from HTWingNut's definitive optimization guide.

Turn off Crossfire/Dual Graphics in the Catalyst Control Center. In BF3 itself, turn off post-processing, set to windowed vs. fullscreen, and fiddle with some of the other settings (maybe turn off motion blur, for example). On my dv6z only overclocked to 2GHz and stock on the GPU, it runs pretty well at low/medium on even 64-player maps. Not sure of exact framerate, I haven't measured, but it's at least acceptable compared to my desktop with a HD6870 running on medium/high.

 

Also, make sure you have selected the 6750m in switchable graphics for BF3 and that it's not using the 6620G! There is no reason you shouldn't be running 40-50FPS easily at 720p with the 6750m.

I can play all low at 720p with the 6620G even... on battery.

http://forum.notebookreview.com/gam...various-ram-configurations-4.html#post8311015

 

There are new consumer preview drivers which apparently include crossfire X support, this drivers look a lot like the preview 12.1 preview ones... I'm downloading a copy of the win8 consumer preview iso to see if dirt runs as well as with the 12.1 preview (I'm not going to test this under win 7 unless it keeps the nice settings that I already have for xfire under win7)

AMD Catalyst Windows 8 Consumer Preview Driver (8.930.7 RC10 February 16) - Guru3D.com Forums

 

I just got my computer and wanted to say thanks to those who helped me make the decisions on what i needed.

I am trying to set it up and now have another question. I cannot get the sharing to work on windows 7. I have 1 vista and 1 W7. i can connect from the W7 to the vista and look at and edit files, but I cannot get files, even from the public folder on W7 from vista. Both computers see the other one, but i can only go 1 way in getting access to them. I have searched the internet and there are lots of instructions out there. I have followed all the advise i have seen, but none of it works. I consistantly get an error. I have all the settings set to share and no passwords but for some reason i cant get it to work. Just wondering if anyone else is having this problem as well. Like i said, ive followed the advise out there word for word and it still doesnt work so i am hoping maybe there is some other piece that was left out that i am missing. It seems to be a pretty popular problem according to the internet.

Thanks.

 

Google rocks!

Windows 7 PC and Vista Home Premium Computer in Network can't - Microsoft Answers

How To Share Files and Printers Between Windows 7 and Vista - How-To Geek

 

Thank you. I actually have tried both those sites. it still wont work. it works in one direction but not another. i was hoping maybe i missed something, but so far i can only get it to work in one direction. maybe something is just wrong with this computer.