*HP dv6z AMD Llano (6XXX series) Owners Lounge*

1 more month till my warranty come off, thinking of holes now!
@the video, What is with all the new THICK bezel lenovo laptop in the same youtube channel...

 

baiii I didn't even wait a week to cut holes in mine =)

tested crate cooling with the 120mm fan im planing to use.. fan directly between the gpu and cpu, large enough to hit them all. I actually got the cooler Im buidling almost done with scrap around the house, so this was just a pic of the testing.

Tested games in windowed mode while leaving hwmonitor in the very corner as well as cpuz reporting no throttling.. though it needs some fine tuning.

I was able to oc to 2.8 BO and PO . Ran 3dmark11 no problem and a little skyrim. I think temps never broke 50c, but I was out in the tool shed and it was maybe 60 degrees or so.

 

I can do 2.8 p0 for xfire benchmark ~ 85/90C(double burn just cook it though lol), but 2.4 seem to be enough for most game as they are GPU bottle necked.

 

my dv6z runs at 2.7 and never broke 70c by using my x1 cooler master laptop cooler and no cooling mod... it start throttling like mad when I play BF3.... (by running bios mod I found that my crossfire does not work anymore due high dGPU overclocking, I guess...) ...yeah you can run it at 2.4.. I also own the dv6t and it runs at 2.8... but there is no difference in games... even cpu demanding games (BF3) runs fine on both machines... main difference is I can overvolt the dGPU in the dv6t and overclock a little more and stop the i7 throttling by using throttlestop.. you have to find stable overclock in the llano version...

 

A little schoolgirl with a really big gun.

 

I do agree, throttlestop is so easy and developed. Although it only let you get to maximum of boost (non-K), it is plenty for most task.

Anyhow,instead of getting a i7 , the money can get me a FHD screen + SSD.

 

Just watched it, and then I read the comments.

I am absolutely stunned by the ignorance some people maintain in the face of the facts.

AMD has changed the game and doesn't need to compete for "fastest CPU" anymore. For most computer users, it's not about speed, but about "bang for the buck."

What good is the fastest CPU if it doesn't perform any better at the tasks MOST people (the ones that spend the most $$$) perform than a more efficient integrated solution?

Sure...IF you use a computer to process math-intensive tasks (and that puts you in an EXTREME minority), then you're going to want the fastest processor...but it's doubtful you'll be looking for it in a notebook. And even if you are, you're still in an even smaller minority.

I owe no allegiance to either Intel nor AMD. My first allegiance is to my bank account, and then getting what I need to do what I want to my personal satisfaction. (And sometimes, I DO need a fast CPU...but who cares if processing two hours of video or running millions of iterations of a statistical analysis took two minutes longer with the budget CPU?)

Last night, on my dv6-6135dx, I ran a statistical program I wrote, downloaded some video, and watched a movie all at the same time, and at stock speeds. My program finished while I was watching the movie (giving me the numbers I needed), my videos continued to download at the top speed allowed by my hotel's network, and my movie never balked once.

On a budget $500 quad-core notebook.

 

I can't believe Intel faked the demo on their Ivy Bridge Ultrabook!! Recording a video of a game playing and then running it in VLC! After, they explained that they felt the load times were taking too long and they were running short on time, so they played a video faking it as game play. The only reason they did so is because they were caught. They showed that it could still run the game... but I feel like they really cheated the system.

 

Core2 Duo would suffice for like any daily task for most people (non-professional) My family laptops/computer all still on core2duo and most of loading time is spent on harddisk.
How many people with 4+Ghz 2500k even need it? If people need computing power for their job, they probably dont care about the money to get a top end i7.

Bottom line is, i7 sound good and make money. Say if I am a highschool/college student, and I say I have a HD6990, people would think I am a geek who stay at home and game all day.(worse is they dont even know what is a HD6990). But if I say I run i7 and windows7 ultimate, they probably think I am good with computer .

 

Now we just need a laptop with this kind of cooling system, literally... a refrigerator inside of it, but if a processor can be overclock up to 5.7 GHz, I´m all for it

 

Intel doesn't have integrated xfire, that's the big win for AMD this time (it has its perks... but at least for me works wonders and serves very well in games at 1366x768)

And I seriously can't imagine any xfire with two intel integrated graphics.

 

Ironically, logic dictates that "running short on time" was no reason...because they had the video prepared. How should the video even exist before the fact of something unanticipated, unless they were planning the strategy to begin with???

 

My dv6Z has made it FedEx so it's time to start thinking about how I want to set it up and have a few questions:

- First thing I do is register/activate and make the recovery CD/DVDs.

-Do a minimal install recovery to get rid of the crap. Will this use the original OEM key or the one assigned to me?

- How can I save the original OEM key and restore it?

- Update all the drivers.

- I'm thinking of a dual boot situation: one boot partition is an absolute minimum install of stuff other than the few Battlefield series games I play. The other partition is for my normal everyday stuff. Doable? Using the same OEM key? Not worth the effort? I ask because gaming on my current Sony laptop improves when I kill off a number of background tasks so I figure a minimal install would be the next step.

- If I dual boot can I use an image of the OS partition to create the second boot partition without having to start from scratch?

I do have a copy of BootItNG if that helps.

 

Last time I checked, while Intel might have an integrated video processor, regardless of performance, all the Intel notebook manufacturers' dGPU solutions were either AMD or Nvidia.

 

You can always rip your motherboard out at home and do liquid nitrogen cooling when you need a desktop replacement .

 

You don't even have to go that far. Just hook up a monitor to the HDMI, get a wireless mouse and keyboard, then toss the notebook into a vat of liquid nitrogen.

A couple of years ago, at my suggestion, my friend built a PC into a mini-freezer with a glass door, venting it through a dehumidifier. He loved it, and it was easy to build too.

Plus, he kept frozen snacks and vodka in it too.

 

Just wondering, what's the lowest clock rate that Windows 7 will run at?

I'm currently at 700 MHz at .6750v and thinking about maybe dropping it to 500 or 600.

 

Somebody here did that test... but he won very little out of it, I tihnk he managed to go down to 0.4 GHz.

 

Well.... but what I said is that still a laptop, nevertheless that's a wonderful idea why not that probably will be the last destination of this dv6, to become a full feature HTPC.

 

P0 at 2.4
B0 at 2.8

When running the test, I had K10stat locked at 2.4 across the board.

However, now I have a new problem! Windows hangs when I get to "Please Wait" part of booting. Last thing I installed was Steam and Civ V. Looks like I'll be disabling some start-up services, in the hunt!

 

Hmmm... well if the overclock is properly done (I mean, the voltages are enough) then is a software problem.

You have the same voltages as my "moderate" profile, with those I remember to play BF3 quite nicely.

 

@bullet Personally , I am using 600mhz@6625 as lowest , enough for web browsing i believe.

Some one did get 100mhz i believe,and Ht was saying that is worse than atom.

 

I did a last known good configuration, and everything is back up and running!

 

If you use the recovery DVD's you won't need a key. Only needed if you do a clean install with regular Windows DVD.

Try Magical JelleBean

I wouldn't bother. With Windows 7 and a decently powerful PC (like this one) it's not necessary. Save yourself the hassle. Plus you can have 8GB RAM which helps if you have a lot of background tasks.

I don't think an image of the OS partition would work. If you want to dual boot then you will most likely have to install the OS from scratch.

 

finished my cooling stand. scored p1880 in 3dmark11 @ P0 2800 B0 3000 . Does that seem about right? temps never went past 70c during that run.

 

Quick question.... what are you guys getting for battery life from your pcs? my dv6-6135dx only seems to want to get maybe 3.5 hours on the battery and I thought I read others getting 5 hrs+? I've tried with xfire both enabled and disabled, and I have my cpu set to undervolt to .8V @ 800mhz.... thanks.

 

3.5 hour sound about right. with or w/o wireless?

Many here configed high cap 6cell / 9cell from HP with coupons

 

this is my score with exactly those frequencies... AMD Radeon HD 6750M video card benchmark result - AMD A6-3410MX,Hewlett-Packard 358D score: P1985 3DMarks

 

Hmm. I only get about 1600. Are you running Crossfire with GPU at stock or overclocked 6750m?

My system will not complete 3DMark11 with Crossfire ON. It fails to load the last stage "combined" or whatever.

 

I get like 4-5 browsing the web. I have a pretty aggressive undervolt though, 600mhz @ .6750v

 

Actually what happens there is that in the last phase, in that precise test it takes quite a lot of time just to begin. Yes all my test have been with xfire on, btw that test was made when I finished my first mod, I was using catalyst 11.11c

 

AMD Radeon HD 6750M video card benchmark result - AMD A8-3500M,Hewlett-Packard 358D score: P1928 3DMarks

Overstressed xfire on 770/900 2.5 or 2.8 ghz locking kstat 12.1Driver
Ran twice , first time is like 1910 with 2.8?
Then i turn off all the service and visual for bench sake.

HT , didnt you get 1.9k xfire like long time ago?

 

I can't get any more out of software gpu oc, so at modded bios 740/880... i wonder if i try one of musho's bios with a slightly higher oc if it will run.. problem insist where opening up 3dmark11 is just a black window when appplying oc via afterburner.

EDit: i take that back, reinstalled a legit basic version of 3dmark11 and no black window.. off to the races!!

 

woohoo oc the gpu 760/900 and got this AMD Radeon HD 6750M video card benchmark result - AMD A8-3500M,Hewlett-Packard 358D score: P1926 3DMarks

edit: getting soo close to breaking 20 http://3dmark.com/3dm11/2530600

 

Hey guys,

My local Harvey Norman has these laptops on special alongside the Sandy bridge QC with the 6770, and they're much the same price (although the SB is heavily discounted). From what I've read of this thread, if I game at all on this laptop (which I will do) I'm much better going for the Llano and crossfiring it?

I had originally intended on getting the quad intel as it will run vms quite nicely as well (it should have 8 logical cores to the A6's 4) - how stable is crossfire working on this laptop now? Realistically I'll be playing games like SC2, BF3 and Skyrim. I do have a decent desktop for gaming as well, but kinda like the idea of tinkering with this to show off to all the Intel fanbois at work

 

I would get the intel anyday if they are similar price, xfire isnt game breaking and 6770m clocks a little bit higher. You may get a little better fps on some game with xfire, but i7 outperform a8 by a margin. the intel is probably easier to work with aswell.

 

Not sure why. Without Xfire it loads up fairly quickly. But Xfire I've let it sit there for ten minutes or more and nothing.

 

I can use xfire only at stock clocks on BF3 (40fps @ medium settings) but i have some shuttering issues because of cpu throttling...

here's my stats (I own both versions):
BF3 multiplayer

DV6T i7 2670Qm 2.9ghz 820/1070mhz 6770m 35-45fps @ high settings 768p
DV6Z A8-3510MX 2.4ghz 800/910mhz 6750m 30-40fps @ high settings 768p

on the intel version ULPS is disabled by default so you can over volt the GPU and reach higher clocks speed... (but I have a REALLY good laptop cooler)

 

Huh? Just 820mhz on the 6770m GPU? Are you sure that's the limit? I managed 875mhz for everyday use and 890mhz for benchmarks at stock voltages (and 933mhz at 1,1v).
But 1070mhz on the gddr5 is awesome! Never got over 995mhz myself...

 

never tried at 1.1v TRIXX show 1.05v as stock voltage...I got a strong 1070 mhz on memory when i push the voltage up to 1.06, but when I try 830mhz on the core clock it hangs... maybe, I can overvolt a little bit more..

 

Ok then. I've actually found another place which sells the DV6 in the A4-3305M and 7690m combination, for $500 less (800 NZ) which is bloody cheap. Obviously because of the CPU, but for my needs, that'll probably do me until Ivy bridge rolls around.

 

my intel 6230 card came in.. trying to download drivers for it first but stupid intel site is down at the pages i need to go to.

 

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to 1993. You'll see, in the corner, the world's fastest personal computer running the latest high speed Pentium at a blazing 100MHz. These CPUs are so fast that they require cooling fans directly applied to the CPU. Crazy stuff, huh?

Funny how our perspective changes over time, I remember drooling over 100MHz computers once upon a time.

 

I used to run a 286 in the school, then a 386 and then a 486sx (or dx... don't remember well) Blazing 45 MHz power! (And it had a heatsink...)

then an AMD k6-2 at blazing 350 MHz (I played there PSX very well) then a P4 3.0 GHz (which would get hot as hell) and then my dear inspiron 1501 just to get my dv6-6110sg later (And I mean it, after 5 years haha),

What's your story guys?

 

had a 486sx 25mhz ibm as my first computer in 95 when i was like 11 that my mom paid $800 from my savings to get me a computer. learned alot of dos commands and had to tweak the hell out of it to play games. Added a 16bit soundblaster knock off card to it and a 4x cdrom that my uncle bought for me. Back before plug and play took off, had to install dos drivers for everything. Borrowed a windows 95 disc from my cousin and installed that lol. then had a cyrix 686 166mhz, then my brother got me a pentium 200mhz,then told me about overclocking with the jumpers and i got it up to 225. followed by celeron A 350 oc to 450, then another celeron, then pentium 4s, then a pentium d 805 that i bought used that did 4ghz watercooled, than to e6400 core2duo that did 3.6, then e6700 that also does 3.6..

 

Nothing like playing worms on MSDOS, yeah! those were the times indeed...

 

That should work fine with no crossfire. The A4 is quite fast even without overclocking because it only has two cores. And most games don't really need more than two fast cores.

 

Yes. Using emm386 to maximize available RAM, putting everything else in "high" RAM. You had max 640KB to deal with (yes KB). But I recall having CD driver, mouse driver, and Sound Blaster driver in high mem leaving me with like 636KB. I was so proud of myself.

Yes please let us know how it goes. I'm looking to do the same!

 

My first laptop was a Toshiba 4700 http://www.technobass.net/images/1990_part2/toshiba_t4700.jpg with the mighty 50MHz 486DX50 (not the slower DX2-50 with the 25MHz memory buss). The huge 640x480 screen made working with 80 column documents quite comfortable in vi... It ran NT 3.51 then RH Linux 5.2... Compiling a new kernel took about 1.5 hours. Compiling PostgreSQL took about 2.5 hours.

 

The Trinity (in the middle of the pic) and Llano APUs actually don't look that much different.

A drop in upgrade still seems very unlikely but there's still hope!