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    *HP dv7t Quad Edition (3XXX series) Owners Lounge*

    Discussion in 'HP' started by mattmjb0188, Nov 5, 2009.

  1. josephlreyes

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    Well Bullit,there are no benchmarks or reviews of the new GPU we are discussing and very little is known about it.In this case, this windows experience index score is an apples to apples comparison of the 2 GPUs we are talking about and it is the only measuring stick available at this time to gauge the two.I would say if one GPU scores 0.5 points more than another in the same system, its probally the better of the 2. I would say that is relevant to what we are discussing.There is no other information known on the new GPU on this forum ( That is of course ,unless you have something relavent or intelligent to add to this discussion)
     
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    WOW...That link is for the 230m not the 320m that we are discussing.We all know how the 230m preforms because its been benchmarked and reviewed and discussed.That info has been out there for a while.The discussion is how does it compare to the 320m that HP is now using in this laptop instead of the 230m.The 320m is what we have no benchmarks or information on except the link I provided for notebook check for the 320m ( which says they know nothing about it) and a comparison of windows experience scores between the 2 GPS using the same hardware.
     
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    Slightly off topic.... finally got my laptop back after 2 months.... i had no hdmi signal so they replaced the systemboard...

    now everything is pretty fine apart from i cant seem to get the media quick touch buttons to work with itunes... i know why dont i use another media player cause they work with windows media player but im kinda use to itunes with my ipod and stuff....

    ive tried ituneskeys but couldnt get it to work..

    any other suggestions ??
     
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    I accidentally format my hdd including recovery part. I live in Czech republic but i bought my laptop from ebay and th ehp here can't order me a recovery disk if anybody here with dv7t-3000 cto i7 720 can send me the recovery i can pay for it ..... if someone wants to help contact me by email [email protected]
     
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    Wow thats the same link I posted in my original post ..the same one you thread crapped ,isnt it? So you still have nothing new ,intelligent or relative to add to this discussion,and you dont seem to be too familiar with the information in this discussion .
     
  8. Bullit

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    So you already know that it was not much changed from 220 level and you still employed that crap windows experience index...
     
  9. josephlreyes

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    Thats right..because its the only hard copy comparison we have between the two GPUS and its a comparison in the same system .The question was mainly which GPU is better. I call it an indication that the 230m is better because it scores 0.5 points more than the 320m and 0.5 points is a big enough difference to matter.But the bottom line is thats all we have to work with.We are trying to accumulate as much information on this new GPU as we can. You sure havent added anything new, have you ?
    You say not much has changed much between the two GPUs.The 2 GPUs are are based on different cores and one has more shaders than the other .If you bothered to read the info from the posts you linked you would know that and you would know that notebook check rates the 230m about 20 places higher than the 320m .( but its an approximate rating based on no benchmarks) That sounds like change enough to me.
    Lets break this down to a fundamental issue. Are you telling me that if you use the same system to test two different GPUs and you had no other tool but the windows experience index and one of them scores 0.5 points higher than the other , thats not an indication that that gpu is the better of the two ? And if you had to choose between the two systems as a purchase,with no other available GPU info, you wouldnt choose the one with the higher index scoring GPU ?

    TO ALL 320m OWNERS:
    It is not my intent to diss the 320m.It hasnt been benchmarked so no one knows its performance. The fact that notebook review has it about 20 places behind the 230m may not mean a whole lot. They are still both in the same class and 20 points within the same class might not be that significant . The question was which of the two is better and I tried to provide an answer that had something behind it other than simply my opinion.Nothing more. If you want to know its performance then you guys should be benchmarking (using the same benchmark tool) and posting and comparing scores. Im sorry if anyone was offended by all of this nonsense.
     
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    Hello guys, I want to buy a customize moonlight white dv7t quad edition. but hpshopping.com does not offered white in dv7t quad, dv6t quad is not offered white too, i have ask hp assistant they told me that the there is some component prob in dv7t quad and not besure the date hp will open the white dv7t quad. does any-body who knows why? is there a white dv7t in future??? thanks,
     
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    dv7t moonlight is out of stock, so it isn't an option under custom (just ordered a week ago) - you will get an espresso black... You can call HP if you want but it's out of stock and I don't know when it'll be back...
     
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    Thanks offline :) :) :)

    i'm waiting for moonlight about 2 weeks, :(

    but, did you find that dv7t have color option to moolight and quad not offered??? and dv6t quad don't offerd white too. may be they cancel white in quad serires product?
     
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    I would like to thank whoever sent me the firewire driver link that finally allowed me to capture HDV from my HV30. I looked and looked for the post, but could not find it to quote/reply properly. The driver worked for Cyberlink PowerProducer 5, but still won't work in CL Powerdirector8, but I'm happy!
    This forum has proven to be useful, and entertaining.
     
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    If you read again what i said, you'll see that i refer to wasn't changed much was 220 to 320 from information available.
    What this means is that windows index doesn't give any more precise information than looking at card specs.
     
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    I don't know what the big deal is. I ordered last week and I wasn't offered the 230m, only the 320m under custom. Still both 1GB RAM, and less shaders isn't really an issue for me in a laptop. Both cards should be reasonably close, maybe .5 is off, maybe it isn't. I've been in contact with NVIDIA at this thread: http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=162069

    NVIDIA has NOT released 300 series official drivers yet, so what ships with those with the 320m is NOT official. I'd imagine since they are taking their time on the driver itself, there will be some perf from using a 230m modified driver.

    Anyways, I will post some benchmarks when I get my system next week and only after I try/use an official NVIDIA driver for the 300 series.

    Thanks.
     
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    "So you already know that it was not much changed from 220 level and you still employed that crap windows experience index..."

    Thats exactly what you said then, your complete post, so lets all lets read it again and try and figure out what you mean because your far from clear about what your talking about and what you said is different from what your saying now.
    I NEVER said the windows index is precise, that would be wrong.What I said was that if it gave one card a higher score than another in the same system, thats an indication that that card is better and you just said the same thing in your last post.You say that the windows index gives no other precise info than the card specs.We have no specs for the 320m. But by your own satement, if the 230m scored higher than the 320m..then it should have better specs so it should be the better card because the index reflects its specs , right.You did just say that, right ? That was the question posed ..which is better..right?
    So it seems like you just answered our question .Good work Bullit.I wish I had said that.
     
  17. josephlreyes

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    I dont think one GPU is that much better than the other either.I would be surprised if any one who has this computer has a video score over 6.5. Given that scale , 0.5 is notable but who knows how that will equate to performance.The question was simply.which is better.(But thats not really what this is about).
     
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    I just checked with NVIDIA again today, yesterday they released the 300 series beta drivers for the desktop GPU's. They said the mobile release should be close (but again with no definitive date). That being said, the beta drivers saw performance increases on the desktop end of 13-30% from the non official drivers. .5 in the WPI should be near that. Also the only spec I can find on the 320m isn't from NVIDIA as they only list a 325m, which has the same CUDA cores (48), and 142 gigaflops (the clock speed 900Mhz vs 1.05Ghz) as opposed to the 152 gigaflops on the 230m (again because of clock speed). Other than that, they look identical according to NVIDIA.

    Again, I imagine since there is no official driver yet, and what is shipping with the 320m's isn't even "beta" but non-official, the official driver should be in line with the 230m according to what I've read. We shall see. :)
     
  19. josephlreyes

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    The Geforce 320 gt desktop GPU is made specifically for oem systems and there is some data on it
    The only reliable information we have on 320m GPU is here :

    http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-320M.25099.0.html

    They think its a rebagged 9600m gt for oem laptops
    And if you look on the main HP graphics forum they second that.
    I think its strange that Nvida dosnt list the specs for the 320m , dont you.
    The 320m isnt a 325m .If its a rebagged 9600 it should work with the same unified drivers that work on the 230m ( as do all modern nividea gpus) Sincerely I hope Im wrong, but I havent seen one scrap of evidence to indicate otherwise. Did you ask Nvida for the specs of the 320m ?
    ( I did check out your link..do you see where tech support said that they released a uda driver release..unified drivers..they are for all supported cards. Most likely there will be a mobile uda release in which the 320m will be among the supported gpus- and all supported GPUs will see benefits))
     
  20. neveroffline

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    I don't believe it's re-branded. I believe the facts support that and the facts are that the 300 series (as in all of the 300 series) do NOT have official drivers. The first driver release for the 300 series is v 197 BETA, BETA man, BETA and was released March 17, 2010. This is the ONLY driver avail for download from the drivers page for this 300 series, in fact, you won't even see 300m in the dropdown yet (and you didn't see 300 until yesterday).

    What we know is:
    A. there are no official drivers yet for the 300 series (I am again talking about an official driver, not a backwards compat driver - which is what is shipping and isn't specific to the 300 series). If you actually take the time to read the beta driver release notes you will see this is specific to the 300 series (the 13-30% performance increase).
    B. HP replaced the 230m with the 320m.
    C. NVIDIA said very soon and definitely this month for the official drivers for the 300m series. Should be right around when I get my dv7t. :)

    We all have to wait and see.

    Thanks.
     
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    Your right , I didnt read the beta release notes. What they say is these are unified driver releases that work on a all supported nvidea gpus, the 230m and the 320m included included and all those supported GPUs should see some performance gain. Nvidea dosnt release a driver specific to one card, they release unified drivers that support a range of cards (and the 320m isnt in that range yet) That increase in performance will be seen in any gpu that used the new unified diriver , including the 230m.It will not be just for the 320m, it will be a unified driver for all GupS supported,There wil be no specific driver,for the 320m , nvidiai dont work like that.Call and ask then.

    NVIDIA GEFORCE GT 320M

    "The Nvidia GeForce GT 320M or GT320M was presented in the HP dv6t and dv7t series and may be still based on the old GeForce 9600M GT (like the GeForce GT 220M) with32 shader cores and still 65nm production process." thats notebook check now look up the gt220m and see whats its based on..


    ''If HP had the drivers for the better card of the 230M, why would they cheat us of a better card and give us a second rate 3rd generation card that has no drivers from the company? The 320M is not a great card, so why did they stop giving dvt quads 230Ms (Aside from dv8ts) and start with 320Ms? It just makes me angry they'd pull something like that. I wouldn't mind atleast being able to choose and pay an extra 50 for the 230M..." thats a user from the hp video forum

    Thats what notebook check says and they are pretty reliable. You should add that into the "thats what we know list:" because my list is different than yours,
    Like I say, I do hope your right, but everything I read contradicts that.But Ive been wrong before, and I will be wrong again.Let the benchmarks do the talknig.
    Good luck
     
  22. neveroffline

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    Me too, otherwise I'm gonna be PISSSSSSED.
     
  23. Old Shadow

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    Not sure why they stopped. I have the white and it is simply beautiful compared to the black. No fingerprints or smudges show everytime you touch it.
     
  24. janiekim

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    I have the same problem with yours.

    While I was updating Bios ( originally F16 was on it ) but, the drives from hp
    site has f13, the videos was out.

    I sent dv7t-3300 to hp and am waiting for the result now.

    What about you??
     
  25. janiekim

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    I have the same problem with yours.

    While I was updating Bios ( originally F16 was on it ) but, the drives from hp
    site has f13, the videos was out.

    I sent dv7t-3300 to hp and am waiting for the result now.

    What about you?? :confused:
     
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    Multi-touch is now supported download the synaptics driver from here
     
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    I shut'er down at night, then in the morning, no web. I could Skype, but no web. System restore, and shutting down the FW did not work. A techie wrote the wireless settings were incorrect.
    What the heck happened?
     
  28. Bullit

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    Maybe a W7 thing no?
     
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    I'll never know. The receipt doesn't tell me why, only what. Could'a been an update, that's as good as anything. Usually I get around these things, but this time I had to pay someone.
     
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    Hello Every body..... I wanna know something... I wanna know what the Notebook is coming with... Like the built in specifications......Pls tell me all about it....
     
  31. MassBarry

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    Your sales confirmation should detail all your specs, right?
    Everyone here has a different configuration.
    Maybe the only thing in common is a 7,200 rpm sata drive and a 17" screen.
     
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    Gotta agree with Barry. You ordered and don't know what you got? Go to the HP website and click on your order status. It list your laptop's specs.
     
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    Anyone got a GPU-Z screen shot of the nvidia GT320m? I want to buy this laptop and would like to know the specs on it.
     
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    And where are they?
    Link?
     
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    Hi Guys, Just got my dv7t quad. I have 3 issues with this laptop. The keyboard has flex... the pop when I turn it on and off... and the num lock LED light lens is not seated properly so that the bright light shines right in my eyes when I type. Turning off the num lock works except I keep forgetting to turn it back on and then when I do it sill shines in my eyes. Are there any solutions to these problems? Hoping I don't have to send it back.
     
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    I have had two dv7t's the only reason I returned the first one was because I wanted more ram, and I wanted it white, but ive been completely happy with both of them, with no keyboard problems or anything, ive had this one for about two months and i love it.
     
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    Regaurding overclocking the 230, someone said to only overclock it while playing games, or while using intense graphics and set it back when not. Why shouldnt i leave it overclocked? Will it still produce alot of heat?
     
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    Hi all,

    I have the Intel G2 80gb SSD all ready to placed in the primary drive bay. But having difficulty removing the original hard drive, dont wanna break anything in there :D .

    Anyone done this before with the DV7T Quad and have some tips?

    Thanks
     
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    Hey gang. I've been reading through some of the posts recently and am trying to decide between the HP dv7t quad or the Dell Studio 17. I'm not planning on using it for gaming, but I do want a solid experience with watching movies and listening to music. Also, I like the 17.3" screens the most.

    Thoughts anyone?
     
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    I absolutely love my DV7T. I read some of the problems posed in this forum and I'm amazed because my laptop has been flawless since day 1. Get this one but get white if you can.
     
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    One issue with the HP DV7 is that it lacks a digital audio output unless you use the docking station.
     
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    • Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-720QM Quad Core processor (1.6GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.8 GHz
    • 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    • 1TB 7200RPM SATA Dual Hard Drive (500GB x 2) with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    • 1GB Nvidia GeForce GT 320M - For i7-720QM and i7-820QM Processors
    • 17.3" diagonal HD+ High-Definition HP LED BrightView Infinity Widescreen Display (1600 x 900)
    • Lightscribe Blu-ray ROM with SuperMulti DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
    • [For BrightView Infinity Display] Webcam + Fingerprint Reader
    • Intel Wireless-N Card with Bluetooth

    Just bought this machine, I custom-built this notebook on the HP shopping web site. Price came to be about $2k.

    I have quite a bit of a wait for this notebook, almost two and a half weeks. The "ah crud" factor is coming into play with that. I'd have loved to have that notebook in my hands right now but getting a machine that's custom built to what I want it to be is going to be sweet.

    Oh, and apparently they are going to do a "burn-in test" on it before sending it to me.

    Say, does anyone know what the country of origin is for this notebook? USA or China?
     
  45. computerstriker

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    Congratulations on your new laptop!!!
    Anyways, the country of origin is China.... Shanghai to be exact =D
     
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    Has anyone noticed problems with the Geforce GT 320M driver or lack there of? I see this was a problem a few months ago but also some evidence that they are now available. Also some say that HP uses it interchangably with the 230m. Has anyone got sum up-to-date info?
     
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    He gave you the link.

    There is a big green box that says "Download".

    R
     
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    I would have loved to have been able to give the job of putting my notebook together to an American or Canadian.

    So great, now my notebook will be built in China, shipped to the US, tested in the US, and then finally shipped to me. Kind of crazy if you ask me.
     
  49. computerstriker

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    I don't think that it is even tested in the US. Since it goes on a flight from China to Anchorage to Memphis then to your house, it probably isn't even tested in the United States. You guessed it!!! It was tested in China. Oh the wonders of outsourcing.
     
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