NOW AVAILABLE - Updated ENVY 15, ENVY 17 / ENVY 17 3D

Fingers crossed, here's what I'm hoping to get my grubby hands on...since you asked....

ENVY 17 w/ Core i7-2860qm, 8GB RAM, 80GB SSD + 1TB 7200rpm drive
ENVY 15 ?? [might just have to swipe someone's to borrow for additional testing]

Darren Gladstone
HP's TheNextBench.com
(I may work for HP, but these words are alllll mine.)

 

Could you answer any of the questions about the GPU differences between the 15 and 17/17 3D?

A lot of people are assuming that the two video cards are the same, etc etc.

 

Well, going off the numbers that I provided in my story with the prototypes, I can tell you that did not perform like they are the same card. I'm still questing to find people not on vacation that can confirm answers to some of the questions you guys have been asking (I have been bugging folks here -- believe me! ;p).

Or, if my 17 shows up sooner, I'm sure that I could put a little more of this stuff to rest. But rest assured that I am trying to get some answers.


....and I planned to install Skyrim on my new ENVY. Until I took an arrow to the knee.

Darren Gladstone
HP's TheNextBench.com
(I may work for HP, but these words are alllll mine.)

 

That's good to hear, people here seem to have very little patience.

We wish you luck in your quest! Oh, and also, you did NOT just reference that meme...

Anyway, please get back to us as soon as you know!

 

Oh hell yeah!

Arrived at FedEx location
ANCHORAGE, AK

Is mine the first customers in America?!?

 

lol damn, that thing's taking the long way.

 

Looks like my 15 just arrived on U.S. soil!

Dec 20, 2011 8:33 AM Arrived at FedEx location ANCHORAGE, AK

I think the 22nd is looking good!

[Edit: I see I'm not the first!]

 

Just got the shipping notice will have my Envy 17 3D on Thursday the 23rd can't wait ...

 

I'm in Arizona. That's what I am looking for. BTW nice Morrissey reference.

 

Many moons ago the internal codename suffix was also on the final product. LE, Pro, and XT were on the retail name to designate increasing levels of performance. This was changed with the release of the desktop HD 3800 Series in late 2007.

The HD 2950 Pro became the HD 3850 and the HD 2950 XT became the HD 3870. HD xx30 for LE, xx50 for Pro, and xx70/xx90 for XT.

The HD 7690M was always meant to be Thames XT.

 

Looks like we are in the same shipment! Woot!

 

Mine arrived in Anchorage, AK at 8:33 am as well. Kind of far from Maryland though.

I hate waiting for packages.

 

Lol me 2 I have an app that checks it every ten minutes and it drives me nuts waiting.

 

Gah - now I'm getting jealous. Hopefully the reviews and info keep coming in until I'm able to pick mine up!

 

NotebookCheck is an unreliable source for unreleased and untested products and even then the reliability is questionable once released and tested (I still use it, but with a large grain of salt). Benchmarks are merely an attempt to show how a product will perform, they are not always accurate and results can vary quite widely even with the same hardware configs. Too many different scenarios for benchmarking (not including the questioning of how well benchmarks and games evaluate performance) make results on NotebookCheck unreliability.

 

Yeah I was just saying it could have gone from Shanghai to LA or something, didn't realize their hub was all the way up in AK.

 

I played Skyrim on high settings on my 2nd gen Envy 15 with a 5830. If a 6770 can't even do that, there's something wrong.

 

I agree that synthetic benchmarks are pretty unreliable, but how well games run is the definition of evaluating performance.

Skyrim is shown on there as only above 30 fps on medium settings with the 6770m in various configurations. Again, I'm not saying 10-20% faster than that is terrible, it's okay. I'm just hoping the 15 isn't substantially gimped below that.

 

I agree - the only way you can check out how a GPU performs is by actually testing it yourself in your own environment, not by seeing what people with a pre-configured setup did with it.

Even then, I am more inclined to follow the numbers put up on "The Next Bench" - Gizmo even stated that despite the similarities, the cards did not perform as if they were the same. I also doubt they just made up numbers either.

Either way, we can wait until Stefan posts what FPS he gets on hat settings when he gets around to installing Skyrim on his ENVY 17. We'll then get a better idea. He could also test out the games that were tested on "The Next Bench" - and see how his laptop compares to their test system.

Point is, neither the 7690M or the 7690M XT have been tested by Notebook Check. Neither of them have been properly compared to other cards other than on "The Next Bench", and we'll have to wait for either Stefan or another poster to help us with our tests. So far, all we know is that the new cards are partially based on the 6770M - that doesn't mean they will perform the same. Assumptions are your enemy.

 

Mine landed in Alaska too. I hope the weather is good up there so deliveries can go ahead without any trouble!

 

Alaska in December could be a bummer, but I'm sure FedEX must be able to handle it if they use that as a hub.

 

You mean Friday the 23rd right? Your hopes cannot change the calender, LOL!

All of your early purchasers so so darn lucky! I just bought my Envy 17 2nd gen back on Oct 3rd, but it is so perfect, I decided to keep it and just purchase a 2nd unit after the holiday rush and after some people actually got them in their hands. I definitely will be buying another Envy in Feb or Mar, but at this point, I don't know if I will be going with a 3rd gen or sticking to my original quest for the Envy 14-2160se. See I really like the All Black Envy and since it will be my "MOBILE / BACKUP" unit, it should work out rather well, plus the price drops should be pretty significant by than. I would also like to extend the following wish to All:

I would like to wish "YOU" and "YOUR FAMILIES", a very **Merry Christmas / Happy Hanukkah** and a **Happy New Year**!

May you and your families get everything you wish for under your TREE or beside your MENORAH, and may 2012 bring Happiness and Prosperity to all!​

 

My 15 got picked up after FedEx cutoff too. Now scheduled for 23rd instead of 22nd delivery. Just hoping it doesn't lose another day in customs like the 14 did or it won't be here before Christmas! Also in Texas cwfnetman.

 

So the 17" Envy is starting to ship and my still hasn't been cleared.

I ordered on Dec. 8th and still nothing. I was really hoping that it would come before Christmas but if it hasn't shipped by tomorrow, then there is no chance for it to come. (I'm still clinging to hope.)

By the way, I did pay for 2 day shipping.

I wonder if customizations have anything to do with production times? I ordered a 3 hard drive configuration (an SSD with 2 x 1TB drives) so does that add extra testing time?

If your Envy 17" or 17" 3D have shipped, can you let me know if you made a lot of customized options?

 

Isn't AK one of the closer spots from China based on how routes are typically flown?

 

Yeah probably, but it's a long flight to the contiguous states once it's up there.

 

iGlaze, I ordered a similar config - 1 SSD and a 1TB drive, and mine is still in production as well.

 

In comparison, I ordered my 17 3D with an i7 2670M, 8GB 1300Mhz Ram, 1.5TB HDD @ 7200rpm (750GB x2).

Mine has shipped already.

 

Maybe it's the SSD. I added SSD to my 15 and it's still in production.

 

Same with my 17 3d - agree probably all or most of them.

 

My 15 had the SSD and has shipped. Who knows? Wonder when the Feds are shutting down the Customs offices in Anchorage for Christmas?

 

Heh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=te-LXFnp3Qg

 

Geography lesson for the day:
Flight distance Shanghai to Anchorage 4331 miles
Flight distance Shanghai to Los Angeles 6510 miles

I'm bored and waiting!

 

When FedEx opens, they'll have the proper customs people there. Not much different than how mail may not be delivered on holidays, but that doesn't mean it's not moving at all. It just can't pass the next non-FedEx chokepoint.

 

Mark Bunting Reviews The HP Envy 15 With Beats Audio - SkyTV - YouTube

The only "review" video that I could find. Are there any other ones out there?

 

This was posted before. No other real reviews that we're aware of.

 

When is the UK going to get the Envy 15? I need a laptop before 9th Jan when i start second semester of Uni. I want to check it out and get a feel for it. If it is not out by then, I'll buy the series 7.

 

Don't think anyone can say for sure. These haven't even gotten into stores here in the US for display yet either.

 

Looking forward to any new info Stefan can get us - considering he is the one soul on this board that has a new ENVY.

 

Nope it shows the same as the 0.5.6 version.

 

Many thanks for doing that.

 

Also a thank you Stefan for doing that. We already discussed earlier that the new one is stated to only support the 7970 and 7350 desktop cards according to the changelog, so inaccuracies are still possible.

 

wow love this forum has so much information. I was looking between this and an asus g74 but It the envy 17in would be a great all round machine for me. Great powerhouse laptop, good size and i would be able to play some games when I want to.

Cant wait for the reviews to start coming in.

 

Ok, so it may or may not be the SSD card. Heh. Ok. Guess I'll just have to sit patiently here at work and wonder when I'll get the laptop.

Oh by the way Stephan67, thanks in advance for when you start commenting on how Skyrim and some other games work as well. I don't want to sound impatient, but all this forum watching is making my day go by faster. So any new posts or info helps a lot!

 

Here's some Skyrim game tests:

Medium setting, 1600x900, no AA, 8x AF, FXAA, fps varied between 40-55:




High setting, 1600x900, no AA, 8x AF, FXAA, fps varied between 35-45:

 

Here's some more complete info for the envy 15 from my csn account:

SKU Description Product Group
LY277AV BU W/K PHTM 15t-3000 Consumer Notebooks Premium


Product Division Product Type Product Line
Consumer Notebooks Premium Notebooks Premium Modules Prem MOD Other


Product Family Product Product Model
Phantom Parts Phantom Base Units BU W/K PHTM 15t-3000


Manufacture Site Manufacture Date RoHS Status*
Inventec Comm. Shanghai (ISE) Export 13-DEC-11 Original

Serial Number ***####*** is a BU W/K PHTM 15t-3000 that has 16 component(s).
The ODM Type is BTO with a SKU of LY277AV.

No. Part Number Description Qty.
1 LY277AV BU W/K PHTM 15t-3000 1
2 SWID COA (win7) 1
3 PCID PRODUCT CONFIGURATION ID 1
4 668831-001 SPS-DSPLY 15.6 AG FHD NSV/ALU 1
5 634925-001 SPS-HDD 500GB 7200RPM SATA RAW 2.5IN 1
6 668834-001 SPS-KBD PT/ISK BL US 1
7 641369-001 SPS-MEM 4GB PC3 12800 1600Mhz SHARED 1
8 668835-001 SPS-ODD DVD RW FX SLOT 1
9 668847-001 SPS-SYS BD DSC HM65 7690M/1G 1
10 572511-001 SPS-WLAN AGN PP 3X3 1
11 MAC_ADDR2 Sku Desc Not Available 1
12 MANUF_DATE Sku Desc Not Available 1
13 644699-003 Sku Desc Not Available 1
14 MAC_ADDR1 Sku Desc Not Available 1
15 UUID_HALF1 Sku Desc Not Available 1
16 UUID_HALF2 Sku Desc Not Available 1

 

@Stevester,
Thanks a lot. Does that AG listed on the 15.6 screen mean anit-glare coating and if so, that is different from what we have been hearing about glossy. Anyway, thanks.

Gary

 

Thanks Stefan, forgot you don't have 1080p on that thing thing. I'm sure playing at 1600x900 is fine for most on a 17 inch screen anyway.

 

Anyone from Denmark? Can't see new ENVY's on official dk page
HP

 

Tried Stalker Clear Sky:

Medium setting, 1600x900, DX10.1, fps varied between 45-60:




High setting, 1600x900, DX10.1, fps varied between 35-50: