NOW AVAILABLE: ENVY 15-32XX Intel Ivy Bridge (AMD 7750M)

The Envy line is not a gaming line. They are upscale computers with good across-the-board performance. If you want machines designed for gaming, look at gaming machines.

 

lol but it should be the best gaming wise for the hp lineup

 

I think the issue is that the DV6 is not a gaming machine either.

 

Interestingly, the Envy is currently the only customizable option that comes with a quadcore i7 and the HD 7690m, as the quadcore Intel dv6/7 only comes with the HD 7470M. There still is a quickship model that comes with the i7-2670QM and the HD 6770m, but I'd imagine that HP is trying to phase those out as soon as possible. To get the HD 7690m on the DV, you have to get a dual core Intel chip or one of AMD's llano chips. It seems like HP certainly wants to keep the Envy 15/17 as the best all-around HP laptop.

As a side note, the AMD DV6/7 with crossfired HD 6620G+HD 7690 should outperform the Envy's HD 7690 by ~20%, but the Envy's i7-2670QM will still have double the processing power over the A8-3550MX.

 

Interesting, so by simple virtue of the fact that HP is incorporating AMD processors in some of the dv6z line, should we start hoping for a crossfire configurable dv6z with 7750m + 6620G and 1080p display instead of an updated Envy 15?

 

Dv6 gets GT650m, way better than the 7750m


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The 7750m is reportedly going to be significantly faster than the 650m

Also, more importantly, the 650m would not be crossfire configurable with the integrated 6620G.

 

If you compare according to notebookcheck, check again, GT650m is way above

 

ouch the 7750m certainly dropped... i highly doubt hp is gonna put a lesser card than the gt 650m in their envy line otherwise ..... lets not think about that

 

why can't they release this !@#$ already !!!

 

It's certainly possible. There's nothing stating that the Envy line is supposed to be HP's most powerful consumer line - it's about balancing style, battery life, power, and portability. The DV6's are a bit bigger, not as well-built, and not as pretty - they offer power on a budget. Also, the 7750M being listed one spot below the 6970M on the power rankings was extremely generous. Just behind a 560M is much more realistic, and the power consumption should be at least as good as a 650M. It would be nice if they offered the Envy with AMD APUs, though, so buyers could capitalize on Crossfire for added performance.

If I'm not mistaken, this whole thread is speculative. Also, see an earlier response about how it took 5 months for the Envy 14 to be refreshed to Sandy Bridge - don't hold your breath - it'll come when it comes or it won't come at all.

 

You guys really need to stop referring to NotebookCheck with these unreleased cards.

Their basis for 7000M info is Tech ARP, whose list of specs has been proven to be 100% fake.

Also, the order in which NBC keeps the cards listed shouldn't hold much weight in your minds.

 

whenever i ask hp they always say theyre not looking to upgrade.. and that itll happen the third quarter of this year if anything...

 

the hp reps dont know anyhting

 

just a matter of time, the unit is confirmed
679814-001-New HP New SYSTEM BOARD HM76 7750M/1G - DSC

 

that means its confirmed?

 

Theoretically - it's a replacement motherboard and the reference document listed is a service guide for the Envy 15, meaning that the logical conclusion is that it's an Envy 15 motherboard. The HM76 chipset is a mainstream Ivy Bridge chipset, so I suppose that largely confirms that an Envy 15 refresh with IB and 7750M is forthcoming, though you'll have to wait until it actually becomes available before it's really confirmed.

 

i would but unfortunately im part of the audience that wants a thin(ish) (not 2+ inch) notebook that can do some decent gaming and i was saying that if they would add amd cpu's as a option i would be very happy with its performance.

 

Interesting - it seems they keep changing the order around.

A few hours ago when I posted that, the 7750m was ranked above the 480m.

 

If moderate gaming is your main interest, then sort of yes. It's likely that AMD's Trinity + crossfire w/ HD 7750M will outperform the GT 650M (I'm hoping that the HD 7750M is on par with the GT 650M in the first place...), but this sort of asymmetrical crossfire is apparently problematic. I haven't tried it myself, but the general consensus seems to be that the microstutter is annoying enough for crossfire to not be worth it. This post gives a brief assessment of asymmetrical crossfire, and this post goes more in depth. Ideally, AMD will miraculously figure out a way for asymmetrical crossfire to work well with Trinity, but I wouldn't expect much improvement. I recall that nvidia had similar issues in the past with Hybrid SLI.

I doubt we'll see Trinity on the Envy refreshes as well. AMD's CPU performance is lagging behind Intel by quite a bit, so we'll probably be seeing it in the mainstream laptops, if HP decides to use Trinity at all.

edit:

It looks like they updated the number of stream processors on the HD 7750m and then adjusted its predicted rank. It's 512 right now, but it was 768 before.

 

let's just ignore their misinformed useless ranking system and call it a day yall agree ?

 

how come i can't find any info of an upgrade for the envy line besides the 4 and 6 ??

 

Yes I want
Eight benchmarks ugh

 

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I might get the 7750m as it has a 25w tdp. Looks like it is very close between amd and nvidia.

 

Some interesting info regarding the 7750m came out, its basically a downclocked 7750, its a downclocked card, my guess is that it will perform around the 650m levels

this should also be some interesting news for the envy 17 line up, since both chips are going to based on the same core. Since the 7770 performs around the same as the 6850, it would be one good performance gain for those
AnandTech - AMD Launches Radeon 7700M, 7800M, and 7900M Mobile GPUs

AnandTech - AMD Radeon HD 7750 & Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition Review: Evading The Price/Performance Curve

 

thanks for dem articles. im fine with the 7750m being equal in performance to gt 650m... but i wouldnt mind better

from these 2 slides:
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it says the 7700m cards are for ultrathin notebooks or ultrabooks in intel terms. the description of the 7800m cards says taht for multimedia/productivity/entertainment. Isn't that what the envy is geared towards??

 

definitely.
IB chipsets & cpus are confirmed (by intel) to be coming very soon (i think end of april was mentioned, since theyve been released yesterday) in HP notebooks.

HM77 would be even better, at least for the envy 17-4000
Intel® 7 Series Chipset Platform Controller Hub: Spec Update

and of course 7800m, NOT 7700m for the envy 17

 

the 7800m can also be put in envy 15. the question is will they do it? the 7700m series is for ultrathins

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-envy-hdx/657279-coming-soon-envy-13-spectre-3.html#post8453258

 

AFAIK the SB ENVY 15 was supposed to launch with the HD 7750M back in December. However, AMD pushed back the release and the 7690M was created to address the interim gap, so... the 3000 series was downgraded.

 

not anymore .... hopefully :S

 

2 gpus, or at least a single radeon #970m is also possible in a 15.6'' notebook (>> alienware), however, hp's envy line isnt meant to be a gaming line (a pity)

 

well the 7970m is a 100 watt card... i said they could put a 7870m in there because according to notebookcheck, the 7870m is a 32 watt card. i believe the card in there right now is around 35wats. i realize its not a gaming machine doesnt mean it cant have decent graphics. not everyone wants to max out games but they want to be able to play them with good settings and multimedia comps allow that.

 

the 7870m is a downclocked 7750, only 125mhz downclock. The 7750 has a tdp of 55w, regarding power consumption guru3d put it at 43w.

The problem aint that the chips are that efficient, and yes they are, the problem is cooling design or the lack of it. The best envy was the envy 15 2nd gen, that was some great cooling

 

lol i didnt dwelge into the specifics i was just predicting on what notebook check says (32w) how hot of a card can the envy hold (wattage wise)?

 

notebookcheck aint a reliable source at all... thats the problem.

just take a look at he 6770m its around 30w

 

yeah i should have realized that but yeah tahts wat i thought around 30w i was looking at the gt 555m and its 35 i think

 

So according to notebook check, which I realize isnt 100% accurate, 7750m isnt THAT much better than the 7690m.

http://i.imgur.com/2z7NI.png

I know the 7750m hasnt actually been tested, but I think these results should be somewhat in the ballpark. Im thinking it might not be worth the wait.

 

More like 78xxm in 17" and 77xxm in 15" or could be 7850m in 17" and 7830m in 15" like the 2nd generation.. Man there are so many options, I'm looking at MSI GE60 (only 5.2 lbs darn), Samsung Series 5 13" with GT650m (say whattt, still very doubtful..)

 

The HD 7750M is probably a ~30% improvement over the HD 76900M. Whether that's worth the wait is pretty subjective.

 

How can you say "according to notebook check", when NBC has run zero tests, which you even acknowledge?

How did you to come to your conclusion with zero data?

 

7750m is based on the desktop radeon 7700
7690m xt is based on the desktop radeon 6600

thats enough comparison to conclude that the 7750m is by far superior, definitely more than 30%.

take a look here to get some official amd specs on the 7700m/7800m/7900m: AMD Radeon? HD 7000M Series Graphics

also quite interesting for those comparing the 600m to the 7970m w/ benchmarks: http://forum.notebookreview.com/alienware-m15x/658295-7970m-m15x-why-yes.html
& http://forum.notebookreview.com/gaming-software-graphics-cards/658185-amd-7970m-vs-gtx-680m.html

7970m inside an envy would be...

 

so any new word on this snice ivy bridge was released yesterday??

 

512SP GCN is a great improvement over 480SP Whistler.

 

7970m is a 100w card so tahts not gonna happen in an envy... but i do have high hopes for the other gcn cards

 

Absolutely, a 7750, 7770, even the 7730 would be awesome for the E15, more than enough to run demanding games at 1080p. And the 7800 series does not draw that much more power than the 7700 series.

Plus it is my understanding that all of these cards have a hardware acceleration feature for Partially Resident Textures, for games like RAGE, DOOM 4 and others in the future using megatexture tech.

 

actually if they put a 77xxm gpu in there they could make the current envy's even more slim. maybe to counter the rumors of the mbp

 

That would be nice but unless they remove the disc drive it probably wont get smaller. With the current cooling system (which is a beast on any surface) in the envy 15 they should put a 78xx gpu in there with the next refresh. Ivy Bridge should run cooler than SB and my envy didnt go above 70C on the gpu and 75C on the cpu when completely stressed unless i overclocked it.
There should be plenty of cooling for a better gpu instead of a supposid ultrabook(ish) gpu that will run at a max core temp of 65C....

Unlikely though with all the places who supposibly will have the HM76/7750m 1gb envy 15MB.

 

yeah they gotta go one route or the other. keep the chassis the same and put in 78xxms or make it slimmer and go for 77xxms. it will be kinda dissappointing if hp puts in just the 77xxms in the chassis right now since it could be so much better. btw is it possible to change the gpu even if its soldered on? like ik its really hard but do you think it would be doable?

 

*Gave up on HP*


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