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    NOW AVAILABLE: ENVY 15-32XX Intel Ivy Bridge (AMD 7750M)

    Discussion in 'HP' started by yknyong1, Feb 11, 2012.

  1. Fat Dragon

    Fat Dragon Just this guy, you know?

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    Sorry, what I meant was that I'd like to see them replace the current Radiance display, which is an IPS with some color-reproduction issues, with a new display of Radiance quality, regardless of technology, that doesn't have the color issues. As far as I can tell, whether TFT or IPS, displays that HP markets as "Radiance" tend to have great viewing angles, brightness, contrast, and (with this recent exception) color reproduction.
     
    Fat Dragon, May 9, 2012
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  2. SInC

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    There are benchmarks of the HD 7770M that places it slightly ahead of the GT 650M. The HD 7750M and GT 650M will probably be similar in performance. The benchmarks are on a "desktop test system," but it should be close enough to actual performance.
    Unfortunately, I don't think we'll be seeing the HD 7850M in the Envy 15, like how the HD 6850M was only in the Envy 17-2XXX. Would be really nice though. :/

    As for the display, I'm very curious of what HP will do. HP probably wants to offer something superior to the DV6's 1080p screen and slap on the "Radiance" label, and the DV6's panel already has decent contrast, acceptable gamut, etc. Maybe LG made a new revision to their 15.6" IPS panel.
     
    SInC, May 9, 2012
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  3. PaKii94

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    i just want the screen issue fixed. and why does notebook check put the 7750m so below the gt 650m :( bad speculation im guessing
     
    PaKii94, May 9, 2012
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    If the 7750m and the 650m aren't all that different, I don't see the point in offering both. It would actually be cheaper for HP to choose the lower-cost option and buy up those GPU's in bulk from one manufacturer.
     
    zeth006, May 9, 2012
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    wow the info on the last page got me excited.. i hope it releases by the end of this month or early june..
    it kind of makes sense since back to school deals would be around september which would be the right time for them to get rid of their stock and release the refreshed version by christmas time
     
    eenxsoon, May 9, 2012
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  6. PaKii94

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    stupid question... HP Discover 2012 | Making technology work for you does this summit have anything to do with laptops? im too tired to browse through it more thoroughly but from what i have read there is not much besides
    maybe envy 15 refresh? i wasnt expecting anything from the "influencer summit" but i happened to fall upon it
     
    PaKii94, May 9, 2012
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  7. SInC

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    Haha, it's all in between the GTX 560 and GTX 460 ranks, which are apart by only ~10% in performance. Not something to be concerned about, even if the GT 650M winds up being a bit faster than the HD 7750M.

    As for the HP Discover thing, I don't think they'll be announcing the Envy refresh there. That seems to be directed towards businesses/IT work.
     
    SInC, May 9, 2012
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    rgeorgy, May 9, 2012
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  9. Genoskia

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    Yup great find +rep. Its confirmed that it will be getting 1gb gddr5 7750m. It also lists the 3610 and 3612 as the only IVB processors so it should be out... any day now
     
    Genoskia, May 9, 2012
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  10. rgeorgy

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    Honestly, I don't think that IB 3610 and 3612 are comparable to previous SB 2760 and 2860...
     
    rgeorgy, May 9, 2012
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    i think the 3610 competes with the 2860 or was it some xm mobile i7
     
    PaKii94, May 9, 2012
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    It competes with the i7 2920xm... or at least thats what notebookcheck says
     
    clifdenhill, May 9, 2012
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    is the i7-3610QM / 3612QM better or worse than i7-3820QM that u can get in a dv6tqe because if the i7-3820 qm is better than i dont get why hp wouldnt put it in its envy line when its already in their lower dv6 line
    based on what ive seen the 3820 is better so i was hopin to have that in the envy instead like the dv6 but i guess any ivy bridge is better than no ivy bridge
     
    Typhoon12, May 9, 2012
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  14. FM Bomb Saw

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    The 3610 and 3612 are lower voltage ones. They are MUCH slower than the i7-3820qm.. The 3820 is a full voltage ivy bridge. The new envy line are ultrabook and sleekbooks... Made to conserve power, which is helped by the under-volted core.
     
    FM Bomb Saw, May 9, 2012
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    only the 3612 is underpowered and its 35w the 3610 is 45w
     
    PaKii94, May 9, 2012
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  16. prtzlflpz

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    So I need an answer quick here for my new Envy 15. I recently sent in my Envy 14 for repairs, and they said that it was impossible and that they would just upgrade me to the Envy 15 for free. I chose out all my new specs and submitted, but i just saw this thread about the new Ivy Bridge lineup. Should I call back and tell them to hold off until the new lineup comes in? How long so you guys supposed that'll be?
     
    prtzlflpz, May 9, 2012
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  17. Fat Dragon

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    There's no official word, so it could be any time. Computers are starting to ship with the processors and GPUs that the new Envy 15 and 17 are supposed to have, so it could be a matter of days, but it could be months - when HP doesn't say anything, we have no way of knowing.
     
    Fat Dragon, May 9, 2012
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  18. prtzlflpz

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    Ah yes. Well i just called in and they said eary next month :/ I doubt management will wait that long for me. Thanks for the fast reply though.
     
    prtzlflpz, May 9, 2012
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    wait they said the new envy's gonna be released early next month? that means prolly around june 3rd COMPTEX!
     
    PaKii94, May 9, 2012
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    Thanks for the update. It looks like HP changed some of the ports as well.
    An eSATA/USB 3.0 combo port replacing the USB 2.0 port, VGA, mini-Display Port instead of Display Port, and 2 headphone/mic (1 combo) ports instead of 3.

    Good to see HP bring back the eSATA/USB 3.0 combo port.

    edit: there's no mention of the changed ports and height dimension in the updated Maintenance and Service Guide, though it does say that the refreshed Envy (32XX) doesn't have the USB 2.0 port. I think the specs listed on the site would be more accurate, but not sure what to expect :S
    edit2: nevermind, this apparently was what the Envy 15-3000 was originally supposed to be, not the refresh.
     
    SInC, May 10, 2012
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  22. bchreng

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    Just returned my SB Envy 15 today. :(

    Can't wait to get a new one with IV and the 7750M! :D
     
    bchreng, May 10, 2012
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    Great find +rep... weird they refreshed it and arent allowing IVB processors yet. It has gotten smaller... its 1.004 inches thick instead of 1.11, i wonder if they removed the black part on the botton. I wonder how will this affect its cooling? I was hoping to insame overclock the 7750m with the beast of a cooling system the current one has.

    Edit: Theres no sign of a thunderbolt port or msata slot damn you HP! They better offer a blue ray player on this model as well... top of the line and the last version didnt have an option for one.
     
    Genoskia, May 10, 2012
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  24. tommy_o_liu

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    Also don't understand why Envy use HM76 but not HM77, no RAID again on Envy, even the 17".
     
    tommy_o_liu, May 10, 2012
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    HP is directing the link to a different page. Either that or the other page was removed.
     
    dappa, May 10, 2012
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  27. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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  29. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    there some speculation regarding that, if its true the envy 15 has finally come back on track
     
    Karamazovmm, May 10, 2012
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    HP is redirecting that too, though I did see it this morning before they did.

    EDIT: And now its not. The first time I clicked the link, it redirected me to the same page as where the link you responded to went. The second time worked fine...
     
    Mistercheif, May 10, 2012
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    wait so is that first link new or from b4?
     
    PaKii94, May 10, 2012
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    Based on what I can see there are two different links but both the laptops seem to be the same, they both have 7750m
    also is an i7-2860QM better or worse than a i7-3610QM. A lot of the benchmarks i have seen show them as pretty evenly matched.
     
    Typhoon12, May 10, 2012
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  33. SInC

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    The i7-2860QM and the i7-3610QM are roughly even with each other.
    However, the i7-3610QM should be much cheaper and be priced similarly to the i7-2670QM (ie $300+ less than the i7-2860QM).
     
    SInC, May 10, 2012
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    ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i need the upgrade now! come on hp
     
    eenxsoon, May 10, 2012
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    What will be the price on these when they release? I will have 21 days with my new dv6 to determine if I will keep it or return and wait for the new envy
     
    smc33, May 11, 2012
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  37. SInC

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    Yes, but the HD 7850M is probably only on the Envy 17.
    The Envy 15 was originally slated to have the HD 7750M, but it was delayed so that HP had to go with the HD 7690M.
     
    SInC, May 11, 2012
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  38. Fat Dragon

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    The price of the updated Envy 15 should probably be the same as it has been, though the discounts might not be so deep at first.

    Agreed that it's probably only on the Envy 17, but it's promising that at some point in the process there has at least been a door left open to put the 7850m into the Envy 15, per that driver sheet.
     
    Fat Dragon, May 11, 2012
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  39. iaTa

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    Right but have you looked in that cva file:

    Code: 
    [Devices]
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6825="Radeon (TM) HD [B]7850M[/B]"
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6827="Radeon (TM) HD [B]7850M[/B]"

[System Information]
SysId01=0x1851
SysName01=[B]HP ENVY 15[/B]
SysId02=0x1853
SysName02=HP ENVY 17
SysId03=0x1852
SysName03=HP ENVY 17
    Hence my question - how accurate have these cva files been in the past with previous unreleased products?
     
    iaTa, May 11, 2012
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  40. SInC

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    I'm seeing this in the CVA file:
    Code: 
    [Devices]
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6825="Radeon (TM) HD 7750M"
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_682D="Radeon (TM) HD 7750M"
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_682F="Radeon (TM) HD 7750M"
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6825="Radeon (TM) HD 7850M"
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0166="Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000"

[System Information]
SysId01=0x1851
SysName01=HP ENVY 15
SysId02=0x1853
SysName02=HP ENVY 17
SysId03=0x1852
SysName03=HP ENVY 17
    It looks like you have a different version of the CVA file?
     
    SInC, May 11, 2012
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  41. PaKii94

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    as soon as this is released ill buy it :D and then write a review hhaha
     
    PaKii94, May 11, 2012
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  42. Fat Dragon

    Fat Dragon Just this guy, you know?

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    You retrieved the CVA for 56896. 56897 is the one that shows two 7850M's and includes the same Envy 15 and two Envy 17s.

    I'm not going to expect anything on the optional 5850M front, it seems too good to be true, but if it happens, all the better.
     
    Fat Dragon, May 11, 2012
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  43. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    7850M is actually possible at ~35-45W TDP, as was the 7690M.
     
    yknyong1, May 12, 2012
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  45. klas

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    Is 7750M going to be better much then 7690M which is crap to use with any latest demanding games.
     
    klas, May 12, 2012
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  46. Fat Dragon

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    Yes. It'll offer a notable boost in power.
     
    Fat Dragon, May 12, 2012
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  47. eenxsoon

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    sigh ive gone through 3 hp envys... waiting for this one! haha
     
    eenxsoon, May 12, 2012
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    So, I go away for a little and this happens? What happened? Went on sale for a couple hours and no longer able to "buy from 3rd party"?

    Since this has progressed so quickly, when do you HP buffs expect a release? Thanks!
     
    krugoh, May 13, 2012
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    Not an HP buff, but it'd be silly for HP to miss the back-to-school market. At least by August. :D
     
    gdansk, May 13, 2012
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    Early June with any luck.
     
    iaTa, May 13, 2012
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