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    New Pavilion DV7/DV6 available this spring unveiled!

    Discussion in 'HP' started by nMIK-3, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. JanusSoCal

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    Just bought mine!

    HP Pavilion dv7t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC
    • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    • 2nd generation Intel(R) Quad Core(TM) i7-2630QM (2.0 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) w/Turbo Boost up to 2.9 GHz
    • 1GB Radeon(TM) HD 6770M GDDR5 Graphics [HDMI, VGA]
    • FREE Upgrade to 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    • 1TB 5400RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    • No Additional Office Software
    • No additional security software
    • 9-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery (over-sized) - Up to 9.5 hours of battery life +++
    • 17.3" diagonal HD+ HP BrightView LED Display (1600 x 900)
    • FREE Upgrade to Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
    • HP TrueVision HD Webcam with Integrated Digital Microphone and HP SimplePass Fingerprint Reader
    • Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN
    • Standard Keyboard

    HP 3-year Care Pack House Call Service with Accidental Damage Protection for Select Pavilion or Envy Laptop

    Total: $1255.48 / tax included
     
  2. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

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    The Envy is underclocked by 100MHz, but I don't think they'd go as far as underclocking it by 125+MHz. They underclock to reduce heat, and considering the amount of heat that GDDR5 produces, I don't see why they would pay extra for it only to end up having to underclock it to the point that they'd get some bad press (unless they somehow knew that Apple would use the 6750M).

    That said, the memory is more than likely underclocked to 800MHz, at least. (Not really a big deal, since GDDR5 still removes any memory bottleneck this card might have at that speed.) But, yeah, we should see in about two weeks (hopefully less).
     
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    How accurate is the estimated build date normaly?
    The DV6 QE I orderd today said March 25 but I hope it ships before that.
     
  4. mcchea

    mcchea Notebook Consultant

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    My Envy 17 3D's estimated build/ship date is March 23rd. It's being delivered tomorrow with standard shipping more than two weeks before I expected it to be delivered.
     
  5. amd851

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    that's pretty accurate i think, with standard shipping, you'll get it early april, with 2-day shipping, late march
     
  6. abaddon4180

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    In my experience, the expected ship date is when you actually get the laptop. I have ordered CTO notebooks from HP a handful of times and the latest I received one was one day after the expected ship date and the earliest 5 days before.
     
  7. whodeymaster

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    I would love for that to happen to me, doubt it does, but it would be nice to get it a few weeks (or even 1 week) early. :)
     
  8. amd851

    amd851 Notebook Guru

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    when bluetooth is ordered on these laptops is the same intel card used and then a different card for bluetooth is used?
    or is a different intel card used that supports bluetooth built in?
     
  9. City Pig

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    This. Look at my sig. :) It actually came a day before the ESD in the case of my dv6tse-3000.
     
  10. bigbirdpaulie

    bigbirdpaulie Notebook Enthusiast

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    I called and did a straight up exchange with the same specs off my defective dv7qe purchased with $500 coupon. No hassles. Very happy with HP customer support. They even gave 2 day shipping. Although, I have to send back my old dv7qe first. Still, very happy and excited. I never took the plastic off because I knew I was sending it back. :)
     
  11. Ichinenjuu

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    So do you guys think I should get this laptop despite lack of backlit keyboard? I mean, I do use it a lot (I pretty much have it on all the time unless it's particularly bright or I'm worried about wasting battery life). I guess I could get used to not having one...

    Anyone who has a laptop without a backlit keyboard ever find it inconvenient?

    It just seems stupid to pass up an otherwise good computer just because of this one thing...

    :(
     
  12. mu5ic92

    mu5ic92 Notebook Geek

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    hi guys im new here to the site.
    really excited with the new dv6's that came out today because im shopping for my first laptop. i read about the dv6 on engadget and decided to wait for them to see what they could offer. im loiking for opinions on what set up to buy. im on a 1200 budget because im still going to school and wanna go with a 15 laptop. should i go with the quad core i7 or i5? also i want to get that 6770m graphic card. is there any really good coupons i can find to drop the price? just trying to find the best bang for my buck. thanks in advance. btw im also going to insure the laptop with either the 2 year or 3.
     
  13. coastal_carolina

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    Looking at the 6230's product sheet ( http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/prodbrief/324746.pdf) it sounds like bluetooth is integrated onto the card. The 6300 card would be overkill for this laptop because it has a 3 antenna design. There are several other intel cards that come with bluetooth other than the 6230 ( http://www.intel.com/products/wireless/index.htm)

    How did you find out that the DV7 comes with the wireless N 1000 model ( http://www.intel.com/products/wireless/adapters/1000/index.htm)? If it indeed comes with the 1000 than that is a 1x2 adapter, where the 62xx series wireless cards are a 2x2 adapter... not sure if they would work, hopefully HP is smart enough to give detailed specs of what will fit and what wont.
     
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    Judging by the features, looks, weight, etc... I will probably get the DV6 SE when a good coupon comes out. I haven't seen any others that I like as much. I'm hoping someone will be able to confirm the switchability of the graphics, so that I can decide which card to get. I want the longer battery life, so if the 6770 can be switched off to conserve power, then I will go fer that one.

    My wife is really bummed about the touchscreen and backlit keyboard loss, but what are ya gonna do?
     
  15. City Pig

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    Last year's models came with the 1000 model. However, I believe that the 6230 was compatible with last year's models, so perhaps the same is true of these? The upgrade shouldn't be too hard or take too long.
     
  16. thelizardking

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    good for i7 definitely, you should be able to get a good setup for 1200. i just bought one today using this $300 coupon: NB6798, dono if its still working...
     
  17. mu5ic92

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    whoch i7 processor would u say would be the best choice?
     
  18. thelizardking

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    well i use my pc for intense modelling programmes so i went for the 2720, the jump between 2720 and 2630 is bigger than between the 2720 and 2820. depends what you gonna be doing. im not a cpu expert though...

    you can check out this chart

    PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End
     
  19. Maverick4

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    The lack of a backlit keyboard is not a deal breaker to me.

    It's certainly a nice feature to have and I would have ordered it on my dv6tqe if the option was available. What was more important to me was the revised layout. HP moved to a more standardized version by maintaining the special function keys at the top of the keyboard instead of having some located on the outer side edges. The inclusion of a numerical pad was another great move.

    All in all, I think the revised keyboard is solid. Having the backlit version as an option would have been really nice, but I am confident (as others on this forum) that HP felt that the dv series was getting too close to the quality of the ENVY series and needed to make sure there were differentiating features between the two lines.
     
  20. coastal_carolina

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    I am upset it does not have a backlit keyboard as well. Though not a dealbreaker because this is a very nice looking laptop that packs a serious punch for the money IMO. I always wanted one on my next laptop cause I thought they were really cool and useful. I can not believe they didn't at least offer it as a $40 option... at least the part would exist! I remember someone mentioning the previous DV6 had a backlit keyboard and it was same size as DV7? Wonder if it would fit/work on this DV7?
     
  21. City Pig

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    Either the 2630QM or the 2720QM is best. The 2820QM, however, isn't really worth the premium. Avoid the 2620M, however; that one is a dual core, and a grossly overpriced one at that.
     
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    alright, ill try this new dv7, hopefully it wont be a stuttering piece of poop like my current one :(
     
  23. fgehy

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    I'm not really interested in the new dv6tqe. Would HP let me trade in my current dv6tqe for a fixed version of the 4th gen dv6tqe?
     
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    just traded in for the new dv7, hopefully it'll be good, got everything except i downgraded hdd to a 7200rpm and upgraded my i7 to the 2720
     
  26. timn99

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    Put me in the same group that is not happy HP left out the backlit keyboard for the new line.

    I received the following DV6tSE about a week ago (with $400 coupon) and can say that the quality is great. And yes backlit kb is cool.

    HP Pavilion dv6t Select Edition customizable Notebook PC

    * • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    * • System Recovery DVD with Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    * • Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-460M Dual Core Processor (2.53 GHz, 3MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 2.8GHz
    * • 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5650 DDR3 switchable graphics [HDMI, VGA] - For Dual Core Processors
    * • FREE Upgrade to 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    * • 640GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    * • No Additional Office Software
    * • FREE Upgrade to Norton Internet Security(TM) 2011 - 15 Month (activation required) [$29 value]
    * • High Capacity 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (standard)
    * • 15.6" diagonal High Definition LED HP Brightview Widescreen Display (1366x768)
    * • No TouchScreen (includes HP TrueVision Webcam)
    * • Blu-ray player & Lightscribe SuperMulti DVD burner
    * • Intel Wireless-N Card with Bluetooth
    * • Backlit Keyboard with HP SimplePass Fingerprint Reader
    * • HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

    Now while I'm still in the 21 day no questions asked return period, I'm still enjoying my laptop but in the back of my mind have to think whether I want to return it for the new version or not. I know its my call but would love to hear arguments either way.
     
  27. amd851

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    i am basing that of the dv7 that i currently have (and will be returning tomorrow)
    the 1000 has 2 prongs or w/e on it as is the card found in my laptop, same for the 62xx's, so at least connection-wise, it should match up. However the 6300 has 3 prongs or w/e on it, so it would not fit
    AxB or FxG, i think as long as B=G shud be fine (1x2, 2x2, 2=2)
    we'll see

    the thing is intel does not specify that the 1000 has bluetooth, and yet i have it, also on HP parts store, for my laptop, there is a separate "bluetooth module" leading me to believe there is not bluetooth built into the card
    the thing is on amazon, there is a 6200 card that does not have bluetooth i believe, but i just wanted to make sure if i would still have bluetooth, I think i would since it's a separate already built in module
    (all this is based on the assumption that the new dv7s will have the same 1000 card)
     
  28. mu5ic92

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    im kinda stuck between these set up

    dv6t quad edition - $1342.83
    -Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    -2nd generation Intel(R) Quad Core(TM) i7-2720QM (2.2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache)
    -1GB Radeon(TM) HD 6770M GDDR5 Graphics [HDMI, VGA]
    -FREE Upgrade to 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    -640GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    -Primary battery 6-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 5.5 hours of
    -Primary optical drive SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
    -Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
    -HP 2-year Care Pack House Call Service with Accidental Damage Protection for HP Pavilion Laptop PC

    or this

    dv6t select edition $1289.33

    -Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    -2nd generation Intel(R) Dual Core(TM) i5-2540M (2.6GHz, 3MB L3 Cache)
    -1GB Radeon(TM) HD 6770M GDDR5 Graphics [HDMI, VGA]
    -FREE Upgrade to 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    -640GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection edit
    -6-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 5.5 hours of battery life +++
    -SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
    -Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
    -HP 2-year Care Pack House Call Service with Accidental Damage Protection for HP Pavilion Laptop PC

    also any thoughts on what i can improve would be appreciated.
    btw where are you guys getting that $500 dollar off coupon from? that would be tremendously help to keep cost low.
     
  29. amd851

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    if price isn't an issue for you, def the quad edition
    i mean they are practically identical tho, the question is do you want to pay $50 extra for 2 extra cores? i'd say yes, unless you're never going to do anything more than open word docs and other everyday stuff, go for the quad edition, the price differential is insignificant
     
  30. JunkStory

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    Call me crazy because I think I'm going to wait for the Envy 14 Sandy Bridge refresh instead. I'm going to blow $500 on an SSD, might as well get a really top of the line machine.
     
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    I advise buying the SSD seperately and installing it yourself. You'll get a much better/faster drive for a cheaper price.
     
  32. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    It's 725/800 as checked on a Singapore retail set. Switchable graphics!
     
  33. ArchAngel777

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    You checked in person? This is good news. That means we are going to see some killer performance. Now the real question: Do I really need a new laptop? Not really... Want Versus Need. Found out my CC was denied yesterday because Chase thought it was fraud use... Called them last night and was like "Ehhh... I am not upset, it just means that it wasn't meant for me".

    If I needed a laptop right now, this would be it. It will be interesting to see what some of the other laptop mfgs do. I am definitely willing to bet that the 6770M will be very close in performance to the 555M. It will do it while comsuming less power (less heat!!!) However, HP (I own a DV5T) doesn't really have a decent design when it comes to cooling. They tend to get a bit toasty from my experience.
     
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    The new Envy 17 came out yesterday, unfortunately that coincided with the expiration of the $400 coupon on the old Envy.

    Looking at getting a DV7 Quad with 6770m GPU, or waiting for the next big coupon on the Envy 17 with 6850m GPU and i5-2410m. It would serve as a desktop replacement and WoW machine.

    Which would have better gaming performance, the Envy with Radeon 6850m and a dual core 2410m CPU, or the slower 6770m GPU in the DV7 with the quad core 2630m CPU? Would I notice the difference, or would it be something I would need to run a benchmark test to differentiate between the two?
     
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    With the dissapointment of the new dv line starting to fade, I see Sony just refreshed their Signature series laptops.

    Not bad specs and they do offer a 1080p screen on the 15.5".

    Signature Collection C Series

    I have to say usually I'm anti-Sony (Xbox Fanboy!!) but I have been using my girl's old Vaio from like 8 years ago and although it is slow as , it is still running! (windows 7 might I add)
     
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    That depends on what the clocks of the 6850M are... The 6850M is based on the mobile cypress IIRC which is basically a renamed 5850M. If they clocked it lower like they did the 5850M in the Envy, then I would be more willing to bet that the 6770M is actually a faster GPU as it is based on Barts which is a revised cypress core. There are scenarios though, where they would trade blows.

    I don't like using notebookcheck as the 'authority' but it is good to speculate. Take a look at the numbers for the slower clocked 6750M versus the numbers they have for the 6850M. They are basically neck and neck. Now, keep in mind that with the Envy, they clocked it down to 500Mhz, thus knocking off a good 15% performance, making the 6750M the clear leader over the 6850M when clocked at 500Mhz. Now, add to that the higher clocked version of the 6750M (AKA 6770M) and I think you will find that this new chip will outperform the 6850M, even a stock clocked one. Hard to believe? It is for me. I don't understand it myself...

    FWIW, both chips are 128-bit GDDR5, although it appears that GDDR3 can be used on the 6850M which would crippled the performance even further. I just don't see how a 6770M isn't going to be faster in the majority of benchmarks. Sure, it has fewer shaders, but they are more balanced and much higher clocked.
     
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    HP's using improved cooling design as a selling point, so this one might break that trend. Moving the intake vent to the side sounds like a great idea, so it might just make a difference.
     
  38. publisher49

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    Go for the quad but also upgrade your battery to 9 cell. Once you start playing with the machine you're going to appreciate the extra juice.
     
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    The only issue with the Sony 15.5 is the lack of Quad core options. Other than that I agree that it looks like a nice machine. I'm not sure how it compares to the XPS 15's 1080p screen though.
     
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    Depending on your needs, the GPU is quite a bit weaker as well. The 6630M is bandwidth starved due to the GDDR3 memory. So, no quad core, weaker gpu and potentially much higher price. On the upside, their screens are often superior, in addition to having an FULL-HD option. To each their own.
     
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    Right, very good point. I'm looking at these machines for development not for any type of gaming. In that sense I'd be fine with HD Graphics built into the intel chips as it's quite impressive for most uses. Unfortunately it's hard to find that configuration (quad core, great screen, backlit keyboard) without the graphics card.

    RE, price I don't see any of these machines as being a clear cut winner in that sense (referring to XPS 15, DV6, and Sony CB? 15.5"). Just trying to help folks out that are in the same boat as me looking at machines in this range. :)
     
  42. dileepakl

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    im new to this & i read all the coments from the beginingabout HP dv7qe


    i need help with this ><

    which should i Buy ??? :confused:
    HP dv7qe
    * • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    * • 2nd generation Intel(R) Quad Core(TM) i7-2630QM (2.0 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) w/Turbo Boost up to 2.9 GHz
    * • 1GB Radeon(TM) HD 6770M GDDR5 Graphics [HDMI, VGA]
    * • 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    * • FREE Upgrade to 750GB 5400RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    * • No Additional Office Software
    * • FREE Upgrade to Norton Internet Security(TM) 2011 - 15 Month Subscription (activation required)
    * • 9-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery (over-sized) - Up to 9.5 hours of battery life +++
    * • 17.3" diagonal HD+ HP BrightView LED Display (1600 x 900)
    * • FREE Upgrade to Blu-ray player & SuperMulti DVD burner
    * • HP TrueVision HD Webcam with Integrated Digital Microphone and HP SimplePass Fingerprint Reader
    * • Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)
    * • Standard Keyboard

    or

    Asus G73SW

    Intel® Core™ i7-2630QM processor
    Features a 6MB L3 cache and 2.0GHz processor speed.
    8GB DDR3 memory
    Multiformat DVD±RW/CD-RW drive with double-layer support
    17.3" LED-backlit high-definition widescreen display
    750GB Serial ATA hard drive (7200 rpm)
    NVIDIA GTX 460M graphics
    Built-in 2.0MP webcam
    8-in-1 media reader
    Supports Secure Digital, MultiMediaCard, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO, Memory Stick Duo, SmartMedia and xD-Picture Card formats.
    Embedded 4G WiMAX mobile broadband technology
    Integrated 10/100/1000 Mbps fast Ethernet LAN
    Long battery life
    Of up to 4 hours and 37 minutes to give you more time away from
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64-bit operating system preinstalled
    :rolleyes:

    or

    DELL XPS17

    also i can't spent more than 1400usd


    need help which should i buy ?
     
  43. Wolfpup

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    Any known issues with the new DV6 or the previous gen model?

    Sounds like you CAN install AMD's normal drivers on them, no weird hacks or anything, right? Hopefully no overheating issues or whatever?

    No crackling/hissing/static on the headphone jack?

    I've been looking at a bunch of systems the last couple weeks... I'm hesitant to try another Dell because the M15x I had had super obvious noise on the headphone jack (plus while I prefer Nvidia, I don't want Optimus, which the XPS 17 has).

    Anyway, while I'd rather have a better GPU, 460 cores isn't terrible, and everything else about these SEEMS really nice. The Envy 17 of course has an 800 core GPU + 2 hard drive bays, but I'm not sure that's worth spending $600 or more on (particularly since I don't have much room to use this at home, and 17" may actually be hard to use for me).

    Well, between the three, the G73 is clear cut the most powerful GPU.
    You've got
    GTX 460 > GT 555 > 6770...although the middle system has Optimus, which will probably hurt performance a bit, and regardless add unneeded complexity.
     
  44. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    do you have any benches on the 6770? if so could you link those please?
     
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    I'm in the same boat. To me, the XPS 15 is the most powerful of the three options.But I really wanted the HP because it was thinner, lighter, and cheaper but the lack of a backlit keyboard is pretty disappointing. Still not sure if that's enough to prevent me from getting it, though...
     
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    Doesn't the XPS 15 come with a Nvidia GT540M? The 6770 in the dv6 should actually perform better than that.
     
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    Yeah, I guess so. I don't know, not being a gamer, I never really pay attention to GPUs.
     
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    Well....a lot of us have until the 30th of April. I think I will wait a bit longer to see what else hits the market.

    It is either a new brand....a DV7 for pretty cheap (after the $500 off coupon), or if they can cut me a really damn good deal...an Envy 17.

    The lack of a back-lit keyboard was the main reason why I picked a 6 over a 7 last time. It was a $25 option...I can't believe HP pulled that and gave us a back-lit trackpad... ....
     
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    there must be some 3rd party vendor that sells backlit keyboards for these...
    i talked to HP, they specifically don't at least
    as for the lack of a dual-band card, i am going to just install my own internal one, i don't wanna permanently waste a USB port.
     
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