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    New Pavilion DV7/DV6 available this spring unveiled!

    Discussion in 'HP' started by nMIK-3, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

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    Am I the only one totally puzzled by the fact that the 6490M and the 6770M are the same price on the Select Edition? I'd advise you guys to buy soon, because chances are that in a few weeks/months, they'll bump the 6770M up to $150-200 on the SE, and then they'll make the 6490M the base card on the QE with the 6770M as a $50-100 upgrade.

    Also, notice how they avoided putting "AMD" before "Radeon". lol
     
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    I called to arrange my exchange and ended up with $650 total off (the rep kept the $150 instant rebate and stacked the coupon). I got the system below and a new carrying case for about $1025, and the rep gave me a free upgrade to 2 day shipping. Unless you need a 1080p display or a better graphics card, it's hard to beat the new dv7. I was on the fence between this and the base model Envy 17 3D--this was just too much power to pass up for the money.

    HP Pavilion dv7t Quad Edition customizable Notebook PC

    * • Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    * • 2nd generation Intel(R) Quad Core(TM) i7-2720QM (2.2 GHz, 6MB L3 Cache) w/Turbo Boost up to 3.3 GHz
    * • 1GB Radeon(TM) HD 6770M GDDR5 Graphics [HDMI, VGA]
    * • 8GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    * • 640GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
    * • No Additional Office Software
    * • FREE Upgrade to Norton Internet Security(TM) 2011 - 15 Month Subscription (activation required)
    * • 9-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery (over-sized) - Up to 9.5 hours of battery life +++
    * • 17.3" diagonal HD+ HP BrightView LED Display (1600 x 900)
    * • Blu-ray writer & SuperMulti DVD burner
    * • HP TrueVision HD Webcam with Integrated Digital Microphone and HP SimplePass Fingerprint Reader
    * • Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN
    * • Standard Keyboard
    * • HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope
     
  3. thelizardking

    thelizardking Notebook Guru

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    i was in a similar boat but decided on hp for those 3 reasons, thinner, lighter, and cheaper. also i like the numpad. bought one today.
     
  4. whodeymaster

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    So how much better is the 6770M than the 6490M? I know it is atleast a bit better and I got it in my new QE, but I did not know how much better it is.
    Also does this support sata-III or just sata-II? I need to know so I can decide what SSD to look at to put in it (or is there no way to know before someone gets one?).
     
  5. panthermark

    panthermark Notebook Consultant

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    $650 off is a really good deal...I would set mine up the exact same way yours is (for the extra $150 off, I too would go ahead and get the blu-ray burner too, along with 8gb's of ram, the 7200 rpm HDD, and the 9 cell...or both batteries)....

    Hmmm...I need to think about this some more. With tax....that whole rig probably cost around $900 or so. That is HARD to beat...
     
  6. taxmantoo

    taxmantoo Notebook Evangelist

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    $500 coupon?
    The only one I know of is for $325.
     
  7. City Pig

    City Pig Notebook Virtuoso

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    "A bit" is a huge understatement. It has twice the memory bandwidth and three times as many shaders. It's in a whole different league.

    The HDD is likely using a SATA-III port, but the ODD is probably on a SATA-II port.
     
  8. bigbirdpaulie

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    The $500 dollar coupon everyone keeps referring to was used back in January by people who bought the original Sandy Bridge Quad Editions (Defective Mobo's). HP is accepting the return of those computers until April 30th, and honoring the original coupon used on the purchase of a comparable replacement. Some people have even swindled the HP Resolution team into applying their coupon on an ENVY purchase. I just did a straight up exchange for a new DV7qe.
     
  9. Wolfpup

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    Yeah, there's NO WAY I'd ever remotely consider the 6490...don't mind that they're the same price :-D Although they HAVE to be IMO to be competitive, so who knows.

    Also weird...it's the "normal" Envy 17 is more expensive than the "3D" version. I don't want "3D", but...that's weird.

    As City Pig says, this is a WHOOOOOOOOLE lot more than just a bit better.

    The 6490 is only about 2x as powerful as AMD's integrated graphics. 160 cores. The 6770 has 480 cores...so yeah, 3x better, 2x the memory bandwidth, etc. You're getting literally 3x the system for the same price...

    Thanks for the explanation! Now I can stop searching for a $500 coupon every time someone says that :lol:
     
  10. whodeymaster

    whodeymaster Notebook Geek

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    Ok thanks City Pig/Wolfpup. Glad I got the 6770M then, and I wonder why they are the same price I would think it would be a $50-$100 upgrade atleast.
     
  11. City Pig

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    Which is why I'm sure it won't be that way forever. It's probably to push sales before reviews come in.
     
  12. taxmantoo

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    I guess I missed that, I can't remember anything better than $400 off this winter. Awesome deal, you get a free loaner computer for three months, then get $650 off on a new one?

    I wonder if I stand a chance of stacking the $325 with the $150 by calling in to order, or if the reps are only authorized to stack coupons for the people that bought defective laptops?
     
  13. coastal_carolina

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    Does anyone know how long new releases like these take to hit retailers? I am interested to see what Costco and Sams Club gets...

    also, does anyone know HP's track record for releasing substantial coupons (several hundred dollars off) after a new release like this?
     
  14. ArchAngel777

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    Well, I went ahead and ordered anyway. Although they have a 21 day return policy, I heard it is very difficult to actually get them to do it. At any rate, I agree with you which is why I pulled the trigger. When HP releases a new model, historically those are the best times to get it (provided you can live with some 'new adopters' bugs in 1st gen) as they often don't price that cheap until several months later.

    When the 5650 was released and used in the DV6T, I don't think anyone saved much money by waiting months to pick one up, in fact, depending on your view point, they lost much because they waited until the tech was a bit obsolete.

    Really, for $883 W/Tax, this is a really good deal.
     
  15. Jerohm

    Jerohm Notebook Evangelist

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    Well I got my dv6tqe on Fri ... the old model of course, and BEFORE I jumped and ordered one of the new ones, I called to make SURE there would be no problem returning the first. NO PROBLEM at all. I decided to get the dv7tqe and ended up paying $25 more, but ... I also opted for the Bluetooth. The dvt7qe has a 2 years hardware warranty and free BT DVD player upgrade. I used to have a Dell 1747 and it had great sound ... I hope this will match. The Dell was really quite a load to lug around... and I am sure the same holds true for this one ... but I will live
     
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    There has to be a connector on the system board to accept the lead off the backlit-keyboard to supply power. Backlit-keyboards have TWO ribbon cables...the normal data cable, and an extra, smaller one for the backlight signals and power.
     
  17. FMruss

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    Sorry folks - I think HP build quality is crap as opposed to Sagers - my dv6 quad died on me after a year from overheating and HP tells me sorry out of warranty! You get in the groove of upgrdaaing after only 18 months to 2 years with a HP-
     
  18. Wolfpup

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    Well, at least HP you can use AMD's normal drivers :)
     
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    Hi guys,

    I'm new to the forum and this is my first post here, so really hoping will get some useful feedback from you.

    I ordered a dv6 quad edition from HP a few days back with the shipping date given as 31st March. The thing is that two days after I placed my order, newer models came out. I've been in contact with HP agents and all of them say I will be receiving the new ones but the order confirmation I have from HP lists totally different specifications.

    My question are: 1) What are the odds I will get the new ones? 2) If I end up receiving the old one, is there any chance to exchange it for the newer model since the price is almost the same? 3) If I decide to order the new one will HP honour my coupon (30% off or something)

    Looking forward to read your experiences

    P.S. Jerohm, you returned your dv6 for the new DV7, did they honour your coupon (in case you used one) and how does the return work? Do you have to wait for the money to be transferred back to you or can it just be used for the newer machine?
     
  21. teotuf

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    1) donno
    2) yes
    3) yes
     
  22. Jerohm

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    I purchased a SECOND machine ... with a new coupon which was for $325 (instead of $300 on the old one). I am dealing with the return of the old one as a separate transaction, so I can't really tell you anything. I didn't get as good of a deal as some here, but I got more computer for the same price as I previously thought was acceptable... and pretty much still do. The computer they sent (which I am returning) is an order of magnitude better than my old i7-720qm ...
     
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    I am almost ready to pull the trigger on one of the quad edition models, but I cant decide between the 15 inch or the 17 inch screen. I don't necessarily NEED a big screen, but it is eye candy. I am also aware of lower battery life on the bigger screen...decisions, decisions, hmmm.....
     
  24. City Pig

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    1) Zero. You ordered the old one, so you'll get the old one.
    2) You'll probably have to return it and reorder.
    3) Highly unlikely, unless you convince HP that you won't buy it unless they do. Jerohm's coupon was honored because his laptop had the recalled chipset. Your laptop isn't affected, so you won't have that luxury.
     
  25. Jerohm

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    My old i7-720qm was a Dell Studio 1747. The sound on that machine was actually listenable... NOT that the sound on the [old model] dvt6qe is bad... it is not, but it is on par with my old dv6426us. The 17in has closer to a full size keyboard ... which can't be true for the 15in with the addition of the numeric keypad and also has a second bay for an additional drive should I want one of those SSD drives in the future; hardware warranty is also 2yrs. The old 1747 was LARGE and heavy to carry; I suspect this one will be too. I really LIKE the aluminum chasis on the old model ... I HOPE the new one looks/wears as good.

    Do you THINK the touchpad on the dvt7 is also lighted??? Doesn't say so explictedly, but I can hardly believe they would have two different parts for something so trivial.
     
  26. MyFishWagon

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    Jerohm, thanks for the input.


    Can you confirm this for me with a link ? I can't seem to find it anywhere, and if this is true, this is a big plus for me as I want to get into the SSD world now :)


    My current HP laptop, a dv6000 from about 5 years ago is a 15 inch model, and with the battery it weighs about 6lbs. On the specs sheet of the dv7 (17 inch), it says it weighs 6.72lbs, which doesnt seem much more for a 17 inch (again, I dont know if this weight includes the battery on it) :cool:

    EDIT: I see that when customizing the notebook, I can choose an option for dual hard drives, a 500gb HDD + 160gb SSD. Does this mean that even if I only choose one HDD, (going for the 640gb @7200) my notebook will still have the second slot for the SSD ?

    Please, pardon my ignorance here. :/
     
  27. City Pig

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    FYI, the dv6 and dv7 use the exact same keyboard.
     
  28. Jerohm

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    http://www.anewhpworld.com/files/pdf/HP_Pavilion_dv7_Brochure.pdf
    (drive spec)

    I see no reason why not ... how easy it is to work on things is TBD. HP doesn't send out installation discs like Dell, so some procedures are inherently more complicated ... not impossible

    my dell had 9 cells ... and I had a spare and I know the combined weight was a @#$% to carry.

    It DOES look like the keyboards are the same.... sorry, I was wrong.
     
  29. Sagar Jacky

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    ..and a backlit keyboard which the dv lacks :D
     
  30. Jerohm

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    when the power of the Sandy Bridge models are experienced by more, it is gonna absolutely destroy the resale value of Gen 1 ... or make them a great bargain for others. People sitting on New-Old stock, better get moving.
     
  31. dlleno

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    you got it City Pig call me puzzled too :D I've noticed on the Envy side that HP put in a huge price hike (on the 3D) over the weekend and then pulled it back, suddenly. Guys were reporting crazy stupid pricing but by the time I tested the site out, the prices were back to normal. So your advice is good--whether or not hp bumps up the price on the 6770 or not, snap this puppy up because whatever they do with it, the best case is that the price will remain the same and/or the 6770 will become the only option.

    as for AMD don't know the history of trademarks "Radeon" and "ATI". why do you think they avoided the term "AMD"?
     
  32. City Pig

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    ATI is the graphics card company which was bought by AMD, Intel's main competitor in the x86 CPU market. ATI makes the Radeon cards. However, AMD has retired the ATI brand as of the Radeon HD 6000 series, which is called "AMD Radeon HD 6000." I think you can guess from the first sentence why HP would hesitate to put both "Intel" and "AMD" on the same laptop. :rolleyes:
     
  33. taxmantoo

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    I think you're right. Looks like the keyboard from my G72, with very little margin on the sides in the DV6.

    IIRC, the G62 gives up the numeric keypad on the right side. I bet I wasn't the only one who assumed the same would hold true for the DV6.
     
  34. dlleno

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    ahh, got it; thanks, now it makes sense. yea whats funny about HP mentioning Intel and AMD in the same sentance is that it appears to be an AMD driver set that enables Intel on-chip graphics! Even the January 4 press release was clear, "...AMD switchable graphics technology"
     
  35. City Pig

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    The previous dv6 had no keypad (which surprisingly has been an issue for me), but they re-added it with the new model (which is part of why the backlit KB is gone).
     
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    I'm just wondering: do most people need a number pad? I'd much rather have a backlit KB than a number pad...most people I know never use them if they have them...
     
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    I'd like a number pad. Not having it is kind of annoying on my current notepad, plus I have to enable/disable it every single time I plug in my external keyboard, so I'm looking forward to having one.
     
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    which coupons actually work for dv6t quad?
     
  39. Wolfpup

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    There's a $325 off coupon right now at least.

    EDIT: Except it isn't REALLY $325 off, because it kills the discount that's already on the unit (as well as any other discounts it looks like), but still.
     
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    I'm a fan of keypads.

    I use it quite a bit because of I'm always crunching NBA stats.
     
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    I would take a backlit keyboard over a number pad any day.
     
  42. teotuf

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    i'm the exact opposite. numpad is so much more useful. from games to personal finance to work, a dedicated numpad is SO much more convenient.

    dont get me wrong, i do appreciate the backlit keyboards, but they are way down the list of "wants" compared to a numpad for me.
     
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    Still on the fence about my 5 day old previous gen dv6tse. With the current coupons, it looks like I could upgrade to a dv6tqe for an additional $160 or even a dv7tqe.

    Also took a gander at the Envy 17. Is it just me, or is the new Envy 17 not that attractive. Not a fan of the imprinted design, as least from the photos.
     
  44. City Pig

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    So, it's just been discovered that HP may be "recycling" the faulty B2 chipsets. Someone with the older model who received it last Friday appears to have B2 chipset.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...-6xxx-series-owners-lounge-4.html#post7258496

    If you weren't sure about going with HP, I think that the other options should be considered. If HP is really doing this, they don't deserve anyone's money. It's bad enough that they only gave until the end of April to exchange when there shouldn't be a limit at all! There's just no excuse with Intel footing the bill. I know that I'm never going to buy another HP product...
     
  45. Wolfpup

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    Is this on systems that have more than two SATA ports? Like do they have an eSATA port? If not, than this shouldn't effect anything (so long as the Blu Ray and hard drive are connected on ports 1 and 2).
     
  46. City Pig

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    You mean ports 0 and 1, which the hard drive uses, but not the optical drive.

    And it's the principle of the thing. It's just wrong to do something like this to your customers, whether they use the affected ports or not.
     
  47. Wolfpup

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    Well it wouldn't be wrong at all IF the notebook is physically incapable of ever using any of the effected ports...only apparently these not only ship with eSATA, but also have the Blu Ray drive hooked to an affected port...sooooo sounds like this really is a problem if whatever program is correctly reporting the version number :(
     
  48. mu5ic92

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    Hey guys ended up buying the dv6 with these specs

    dv6t select edition $1,342.83

    -Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
    -2nd generation Intel(R) Dual Core(TM) i5-2540M (2.6GHz, 3MB L3 Cache)
    -1GB Radeon(TM) HD 6770M GDDR5 Graphics [HDMI, VGA]
    -FREE Upgrade to 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    -640GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection edit
    -6-Cell Lithium-Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 5.5 hours of battery life +++
    -SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support
    -Intel 802.11b/g/n WLAN and Bluetooth(R)

    total came out to $1,342.83

    this price also includes the 3 year accidental warranty with lo jack.
    i called HP thinking to cancel my order and reorder it but a quad edition with the i7 2720 and everything else the same. they told me they would credit my card $200 if i decided to stay with the laptop. so basically i would get it for $1100.00 including the warranty. do you guys think with that price its worth staying with since it does have a 3 year warranty on it. or should i still cancel and buy the quad edition dv6. you opinions are welcomed. im not looking to photo edit or video convert here.but ill probably be gaming here and there but ill probably still stick with my console.
     
  49. coastal_carolina

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    Does anyone know where the recovery disc/OS disc option is to be included with the dv6/dv7 when ordering it on HP's website??

    I looked under every option and can not find it.

    I am assuming HP still does not included operating system discs with their PCs unless you specify otherwise?
     
  50. taxmantoo

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    mu5ic,

    Your 1143 price seemed high, but the protection package is $210 which explains that.

    The equivalent with a i7-2630qm is $1525 -325, or $1200 plus tax.
     
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