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    New Pavilion DV7/DV6 available this spring unveiled!

    Discussion in 'HP' started by nMIK-3, Feb 8, 2011.

  1. zswordsman

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    man, i guess ill just get the refund, and wait, or get me a vaio, this laptop stutter and it has 8gbs of ram, damn it
     
  2. bigbirdpaulie

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    With all the FREE upgrades added to the old quad's with a new coupon code floating around and the "Demo" button taking you to the promo video/details of the NEW designs, I'd say their release is pretty soon. Especially with Apple and Dell releasing some SB models. HP wants to put these out ASAP.
     
  3. zswordsman

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    well, after extensive searching on Dell and Sony, imma stay with HP, ill get the refund and wait for the new DV7 to come out. i have a question though. does your guys dv7 stutter when playing music? mine stutters like crazy when playing music sometimes and it gets overworked with firefox for some reason which is crazy since i have 8gb of ram. good thing im trading in :D
     
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    I just noticed that their is a $300 coupon for the dm4 as well. Hope that means they are replacing it with the dv4.
     
  5. City Pig

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    Now you're the one being pessimistic. :rolleyes: First of all, we have no confirmation that they cost more. Second, if it does cost more, they'd just make the customer pay the difference. Third, they've said that they'll honor the coupons.

    it should be allowed so long as the new models come out before the end of April and the exchange is made before then.
     
  6. QuadCoreDV6

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    The current $300 coupon expires after 360 uses. Maybe that's the remaining stock of the current DV6/DV7 models with the fixed SB. Hopefully they will clear out the remaining stock soon so they can get the new gen out.

    Edit: I just saw the same coupon on another site that expires after 450 uses.
     
  7. abaddon4180

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    I wouldn't try an put an exact number on their remaining stock of the old model but I would assume that it is not a large number. Like someone implied earlier, I think they planned to release the new model in late February but realized they still had a lot of the old ones left so delayed it a little while and released the coupon to get rid of them.
     
  8. zswordsman

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    sweet so theres still hope that i can trade in for the new version :)
     
  9. City Pig

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    If that's the case, it shouldn't take more than two weeks to clear most of the stock.
     
  10. abaddon4180

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    Less, if you ask me.
     
  11. City Pig

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    Yeah, but I don't like to be over-optimistic.
     
  12. fgehy

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    i have an eye on the envy 17. if i were to return my dv6tqe, would hp let me apply my coupon to the purchase of an envy 17?
     
  13. dlleno

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    if you're looking at the new Sandy Bridge Envy 17 3D, my guess is probably not, but thats just a guess because this product is just released.
     
  14. City Pig

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    I think only if it would have applied if the model had been out at the time. You'll have to call HP to be sure.
     
  15. QuadCoreDV6

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    Especially at the price point with the coupon. I just put together the same setup I have now and with the $300 coupon it was just over a $1,000. That's less than what I paid for mine with a $500 coupon.

    It is a great value for a Sandybridge i7, 8gb of ram, bluray drive, ect, ect.
     
  16. QuadCoreDV6

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    I'm pretty sure that the $500 coupon that I used specifically said that it did not apply the Envy series. I bet you could probably sweet talk the resolutions department into letting you use it though. They seem to be very willing to give discounts to keep people as customers.

    When I first ordered a DV6qe I used a $350 coupon and the next day a $500 coupon came out. I called and cancelled my original order and they offered to give me a $150 discount to make up the difference between the coupons instead of canceling my order. I decided to cancel and reorder so I could upgrade a few things and still pay about the same price.
     
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    Hey quick question to anyone regarding HP coupons. If there was say a $300 OFF coupon for the dm4t BUT it only applies if you spent over $1000.

    Could someone say configure 2 of the EXACT same notebook aka dm4t (absolute BARE MINIMUM specs) and have it come to $1,100 and then apply that coupon and have it work? SO it would end up being $800 for 2 laptops?
     
  18. QuadCoreDV6

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    One way to find out...go to the website and try it. Just build them and add them to your cart. Click buy and then put in the coupon and see what happens.
     
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    I used a 500$ off coupon too. How is it that using a 300$ off coupon makes the computer cheaper than what we paid for? Does the setups original price not have to equate to 1400$?
     
  20. TheAtreidesHawk

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    Didn't work but I wasn't really confident it would.

    I just want to fast forward to 2 weeks from now so we can know for certain what the new dv6/dv7 will offer as far as screen resolution.
     
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    I just went back and looked at my bank account and the order I just made was cheaper with a $300 coupon than with the $500 coupon I used on my original dv6t QE with the bad chip set.
     
  22. QuadCoreDV6

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    Seems like HP has lowered the base line price and offered the coupon to try to clear out old inventory before releasing the refreshed DV6/7.
     
  23. fgehy

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    The main reason why I would like to change is because of the screen resolution. I do a lot of webdesign and this screen just wont do. Should I wait to see what screen resolution the new dv6's will offer or just go with the Envy 17 3D?
     
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    imho, signs are that HP is sticking with 1600x900 on the DV series and reserving 1920x1080 for the Envy. Right now, the Envy 17 3D Sandy Bridge looks good, to be sure, and frankly I would expect the standard Envy 17 to be Sandy Bridged here soon too
     
  25. ghostbustersin

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    Hp has infact increased the base line price for both Dv6 & Dv7 SB Quads. Earlier it was 899USD and 999USD & now its 100USD higher for both of them. I wonder how it comes cheaper for you. The same config still costs me 200USD more with this 300USD off coupon.

    I'm in such a dilemma to buy this one or the wait for the refresh. I can't compromise on Touchscreen n Backlit keyboard and the new ones doesn't seem to offer those. But the new ones do have other major improvements as USB3, Coolsense and a better GPU. ( Anything else? ) And once those appear, i guess the these old ones would vanish from the HP Site. And i won't be having any other option to the touchscreen DV6 then. :(
     
  26. Rigwald

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    Nowhere has it been confirmed that there will be no touchschscreen or backlit keyboard. Just because they aren't listed as features in the promo vid doesn't mean they won't be available. In the previous generation's promo vid, the backlit keyboard was also no mentioned. One salesperson confirmed they will be options (if you can trust a salesperson, hehehehe).
     
  27. ghostbustersin

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    All, the sales rep I've talked to, had no idea about the refresh. It's so frustrating, why can't they simply answer if they are going to have it or not?

    BTW, just as the present dv6 and dv7, should we not expect a select edition series of the refreshed dv6 n dv7's with those additional features may be? And also the AMD Cpu ones with dv6z series? I mean, if they refresh the dv6 n dv7 series with new designs, it would apply to all the versions of it. I guess they won't be selling both the designs at the same time? Isn't it?
    Any experience form the last years refresh?
     
  28. QuadCoreDV6

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    No idea why it would be different but for me the same config is less expensive with the $300 coupon than it was with the $500 coupon. Maybe they lowered the cost of some of the options or something.

    BTW, my DV6 (same as the one they are selling now) has Coolsense and the ATI 6570 is a good card with DDR5 memory.

    I'm holding out for the refresh before deciding what I'm going to do.
     
  29. dlleno

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    guys we have similar frustrations in Envy 17 land re: the on-oline descriptions of the product don't match the specs on the ordering page, and numerous other content issues. so far, I have greater confidence in the product demo, however, which on the Envy 17 3D matches the CES announcement.

    also be careful about infering stuff from un-official sources -- like backlit keyboards. where did that come from and what certainty do we have that DV series will have it? So far I havent seen strong enough evidence of it.
     
  30. notebook303

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    Ok, I want to clear up some confusion between myself and someone

    The dv6/dv7’s that are out there now they are not the new design w/ Envy like features USB 3.0 ones which were announced early-mid February correct? They are still schedule for “Spring” which I guess means March 20th or thereafter correct?

    My friend at work seems to think they are because she saw this

    HP Pavilion dv6t, dv7t with Sandy Bridge Now Available
     
  31. ghostbustersin

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    Exactly, don't trust those un-official or any random guy telling you that it should be there just 'coz he thinks it should be there. And yes, sales rep don't seem to have any clue on the new ones either. I personally won't believe them if they say it's going to be available. One of them was asking for my location when i asked if the new dv6 will have backlit? I was like, what? :confused:


    No these are not the ones with USB 3.0 or the new designs. These are just the Last years DV6 having performance boost with Sandy Bridge and DDR5 cards.
     
  32. dlleno

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    someone should do a comparison -- I see a great deal of similarity between the dv7t-quad out there now and the promised refresh. including USB 3 and HDMI 1.4, beats, etc. check out the product demo
     
  33. City Pig

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    The demo is for the new version, but the new version isn't what's on sale. I think HP may have put the new demo up to mislead people.

    Compare the actual configurable options to this: http://h20424.www2.hp.com/campaign/.../resources/HP_Pav_dv7_2pp Brochure_FA_web.pdf
     
  34. ghostbustersin

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    :p :D :p :D :p :D :p :D :p :D :p

    When i pointed this out to the Sales Rep, he was so cool about it. He told me that we are sorry but keep happening and sometimes even different picture is also shown for the product that is not available. It's known to them and they consider it as some technical glitch at the Webmasters end.

    I would even like if someone compares the current Quad ones with the Upcoming Refreshed ones with probability of whats coming & not and whats better or worse?
     
  35. abaddon4180

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    I don't want to believe that but it has been like this for a couple of days now. They have to be aware of it by now and it can't be that hard to fix.
     
  36. QuadCoreDV6

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    You're right. The DV6 and DV7 that are available to purchase now are NOT the new ones that will (hopefully) be released soon.
     
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    HP has got some serious content cleanup to do thats for sure. At least on the Envy 17 3D side, the evidence is stronger that the product demo matches the product that is for sale. but hearing you guys say that the product demo was loaded before the ordering page itself was updated ; thats no good

    on edit: just a quick point here, but on the Envy side I find that the "...campaigns/..." pages to be horribly out of sync with the product actually sold, and a bad representation of the selling product (for the Envy 3D Sandy Bridge). In fact, the most reliable piece of content (in my view) could actually be the 'specs' page of the CTO order page. So definately keep pressing HP reps to tell you what DV product is actually being sold, but at the same time don't fall into the trap of trusting one piece of HP content over the other, when clearly the (HP content) left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
     
  38. abaddon4180

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    I have come to the conclusion that 90% of the HP sales reps have no idea what they are talking about. They are either too stupid to understand what I am asking or they are smart enough to dance around the questions without giving definitive answers. One just told me that the dv6 has already been refreshed with the case in the demo but that only the QE has USB 3.0. Then she told me that she has no information on when the 2nd gen Core I dual core processors will be available for it.

    She basically made it seem like they already refreshed it and they aren't going to do anything more, though I can't believe that.
     
  39. jaco0646

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    So the differences are:
    1. A better graphics card as an option (which will cost more) while the base card is worse
    2. Four speakers instead of two
    3. The touchpad was "fixed" by returning to the separated-button style
    4. An extra headphone jack
    5. Two USB ports upgraded to 3.0

    It looks like most of the core components have not changed: same CPU, same chipset, same screen, same RAM, same HD, same keyboard and same everything else as the faulty dv7 Quad. Is this what people are holding their breath for? What's the big deal?
     
  40. abaddon4180

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    It also has the options for non-quad CPUs,
     
  41. City Pig

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    They also claim improved cooling.

    You can't say anything about cost until they are released. The 6490M might only be in the Select Edition, for example.

    And just because you don't find a possibly 50% faster graphics card, better audio, a touchpad that doesn't suck, and USB 3.0 worthy upgrades doesn't mean everyone else feels the same. The only other thing they could have done to make it better would be a 1080p screen option.
     
  42. thelizardking

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    Does anyone know what the expected resolution will be on the new dv6?
     
  43. City Pig

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    Sadly, same as it is now; 1366x768.
     
  44. thelizardking

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    that is sad, they get so much right and then so much wrong.

    thanks
     
  45. City Pig

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    Hopefully the Envy 14 will get a Radiance replacement. I really want a new Envy 15 though...
     
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    Yeah I agree, I would seriously consider getting this if they gave it a 1080p screen option. Actually it's still on my list.
     
  47. thelizardking

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    im gonna spend my life waiting for the perfect notebook
     
  48. jaco0646

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    Well, they could've upgraded any of the areas where I mentioned same, same, same; but 1080p is obviously the most important to everyone who's been posting, followed by a backlit keyboard. How about better HD options? There's no configuration with dual 7200 RPM drives. Does anyone know if the dv7 has RAID hardware?
     
  49. City Pig

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    The only CPU they could have added was the very hot $1000 2920XM; the only chipset change they could have made was to the HM67, which is unnecessary unless they add the 2920XM which would have required a total redesign of the cooling system and a change to the target market; they could have added two more RAM slots, but that would have just been an update for the sake of changing something and would have cost them more than it would have earned them; you can change the HDD anyway, and probably cheaper.


    That only really leaves the backlit keyboard and the screen. This isn't meant to be a high-end notebook, so expecting RAID is a bit much. It would be nice, but it's not something that would be a deal breaker to most people in a mainstream notebook. And anyway, are RAID and a backlit keyboard really such important features that the other upgrades are irrelevant? Redesign does not mean "change everything that can be changed just for the sake of changing and if even one thing is left the same it's nothing to get excited about." My god, I don't even want to know what you think of Apple...
     
  50. TheAtreidesHawk

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    Ignore the troll....
     
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