Radiance display no longer an option for envy??

mind sharing the coupon? I don't see it anywhere.

 

Coupon: NBQ175523

 

LOL @ HP bringing a coupon and nobody wants it

They thought people are so stupid they just can bait and switch the radiance and nobody would notice, wrong! If they do bring the screen back then it will be bye bye coupon, dont you just love HP?

 

I really hope this coupon actually means they are changing something.

They have to realize that the Radiance was one of the main selling points of the E14, so hopefully they are trying to clear out stock before bringing it back with something new or doing something along those lines.

They must know that even with $200 off, a lot of people will still be turned off by a "premium" laptop with a mediocre screen.

 

Already posted this in the owners' thread, but the person responding isnt 100% sure.

Does anyone know if the screen on the NON-Radiance version (1366x768) is a "glass-screen" like the one on the Radiance version?

Thx!

 

I saw one a few days ago it looks the same, you can see them on youtube too all the beats editions are non radiance.

 

Thanks! You just saved me $65 on top of my EPP.

 

I disagree. And I don't have time to argue with you like you have as evident from your posts in other radiance thread

 

Your welcome

 

I so very much hope you are right.

Fingers crossed for a reintroduction of the 14"/15" with blu-ray, usb 3.0, and a high-res screen...

 

I don't think the coupon is necessarily inr eaction to poor sales. I've followed the deals across manufacturers for th epast 3 months or so. This same coupon started with the dv6 and dv7 and their various incarnations, eventually included the envy 15 and 13, then didn't anymore, and now includes the envy 14 and envy 17... It looks like a natural progression to me, and I was kind of expecting it actually.

 

Ummm they do really have deals on other pavilion series laptops but I believe those were primarily because of there low sales compare to envy. Envy 14 had the most smooth sales as compare to any another hp laptop in past 1 year. If A company is getting smooth profits from a product there is no point of introducing promotional deals on it. Companies only introduce deals when they are unable to sell there products. I'm not saying radiance is a must coming now because I myself knows that the Chances are slim. I'm just saying that it seems like envy's sales has fallen.

 

stop giving false hopes

 

Does anyone here actually go to college? I graduated last year, so I'm not sure about the laptop "scene" now. What are students packing nowadays? When I was in school last year, everyone had macbooks or VAIOs or any of the HP pavillions (dv2xxx's).

 

I'm in college right now and in my comp sci class most of the laptops I see there are macbooks and the rest of the people have netbooks. I've seen 2 people with envys so far lol.

 

So still macbooks or netbooks... Then that means E14 isnt really getting popular. Cuz college students are the mainstream. Most people know about macbooks only. LAME.

 

Whats lame is the fact that there isn't much worthy competition to the Macbook Pro line. The short-lived Radiance E14 was IMO the only worthy competitor to the 15 at the time I was looking to purchase. Now there is nothing. There are some decent 13" alternatives, but they are more expensive than the similarly spec'd MBP13. You can't fault the kids for wanting the best-in-class notebook.

I'd estimate 80% of my medical school class has Macbook Pro's (mostly 13's). It meets our needs at least as well or better than my Envy 14 (both of which are extreme overkill) and I'd assume the same goes for the large majority of undergraduate students. The only caveat really is the higher price point, especially of the MBP15 since 13" is too small for me personally, but obviously plenty of people can deal with the 13".

 

I'm buying an envy because MacBook is too expensive and envy gives best bang for buck compare to MacBook but without radiance it's not even comparable

 

I graduated with a BS in Comp Sci about a year ago, and in my experiences most students (whose mommy and daddy don't pay for everything) don't want to spend $1000+ on a computer. A few had Macbooks / Macbook Pros, but most were running around with a $500-800 model from Best Buy or Staples.

Comparing the Envy 14 to a Macbook Pro in terms of widespread use is pointless - it's like comparing a Zune to an iPod. EVERYONE knows what an iPod is, not many (by comparison) even know that the Zune exists, let alone what it does. Apple is absolutely huge on marketing, and as such Macbook / iPod / iPhone are all household names, whether people use and like them or not.

Your average college kid probably doesn't care what computer they're using, as long as it does what they want it to. The ones who actually do care what their computer looks and feels like, how good the screen is, how many expansion ports there are, etc. probably don't know that the Envy even exists, so they go with the Macbook Pro / Studio XPS / Alienware / etc. instead, because it's what they've heard people talk about. Here's a good test - go up to a random college kid on campus or in Starbucks and tell them you like their computer, you're thinking of getting one for yourself, but you're curious what the screen resolution is. I'd bet at least half (and probably more like 3/4ths) won't be able to tell you or won't even know what you're talking about.

 

Completely agree Curse The Sky.

At this point Apple has made a really good name for itself so it's not hard to see why they are the default when a college kid wants a quality computer and doesn't need to worry about $$$. I've talked to a handful of people in my classes about their MBP's and why they went with them, most of them liked the styling and the reputation for ease of use. I showed a couple of them pictures of the envy line and after seeing the drastic difference in price they were a little annoyed at their purchase. One of them is even considering selling his MBP to get a beats edition like mine.


Give it time, PC's really haven't tried to compete on all the same levels as a MAC, once people start catching wind that there are other, equal, cheaper alternatives available I'm sure we'll start to see a larger variation of notebooks in the classrom. Early on this semester I noticed a lot of huge 17" dells, now most of what I notice are 13"-15" MBP's. When I was at CC most people had HP's or dells, rarely did someone have a MB let alone a MBP.

 

I'm a freshman in college and about half the notebooks I see are macbooks, mostly pro 13's. There are a few people with netbooks. So far I'm the only one with an Envy of any kind.

 

The only reason why the Envy 14 was a good choice in the first place, was because of its quality display. Out of all the components in a notebook, you use the display the most, followed by the keyboard and touchpad. Other things are minor in comparison.

Hopefully, in the next refresh, Hp will offer an 1600x900 IPS display (depending on the new manufacturer) as an option (in direct competition with apple) and change the touchpad so that there are two distinct buttons and a smooth sensitive surface. Not this clickpad nonsense...

Those are the only changes that need to be made and possibly better battery life with the standard battery.

 

What does IPS mean? Also, when will this "refresh" happen? I don't care so much about the resolution; it's the brightness/clarity that I've always been interested in.

EDIT: Also, anyone confirm if the 1366x768 version has the same "glass" display as the Radiance version? Haven't gotten a definitive answer for this, as most users here purchased the radiance version. TYIA!

 

Oh my. I recently ordered the Envy 14 think it had the radiance infinity. I am so disappointed. It's too small .How is the display on 17"?

 

It's full HD, but don't expect that the colours are as good as the radiance display. But it's still VERY decent.

 

Where would be a suggested place to get a warranty? HP? Somewhere else?

 

This is the question I wanna know too!

When will we potentially see the new batch of 1600 x 900 of Envy 14s coming out again (if its a question of a dispute with the old suppliers)?

I am willing to wait it out, but I just want to know a estimated time period, if any of you guys have any info on that

 

If I am not wrong, the IPS display was featured on the iPads.

You can read here to know more!
iPad: IPS Screen Technology Explained - PCWorld

 

Wow, I can't believe how big this thread got. I decided to drop by and see how things were. Well looks like HP dropped the Radiance screen. How long ago did this happen? Looks like I was able to get some of the last ones. Such a shame, I am loving this Envy Laptop though.

So they are already coming out with a new Envy Lineup?

Who ever was asking about what laptops most college kids have. Mac/HP's that I have seen. Mac seems to be what is "in". It's the "cool" thing to have these days, Apple everything. Id say it is about 50/50 between the two.

I have to say, I was so close to getting a Mac before the Envy came out even though I hate Mac OS. But without the Radiance screen the Envy still packs some good features like the beats audio and what not but honestly I wouldn't buy any laptop these days without a HI-Res Screen. Hp really needs to get on this issue and fix it.

 

The main things to know about IPS (more expensive LCD) vs TN (less expensive to cheap) are:
1. IPS = 8 bit color, TN = 6 bit color.
-- TN uses methods to trick your brain into seeing 8 bits worth of color, but it can be unreliable for a minority of people (such as myself).
2. IPS doesn't suffer viewing angle issues. If you notice, when you look at an angle on a screen and the colors change, it's TN.

Obviously, if you are working on color critical work, IPS is the way to go. TN is fine for general computing.

And yes, the Brightview screens have the edge/edge "glass".

 

Problem is that IPS is slower than TN. So for gaming, you will see ghosting.

 

Since all the rumors are leading to a refresh when Sandy Bridge comes out, do you think we'll have to wait until early 2011 to get Radiance Displays? THAT WOULD SUCK.

Personally, I think they should replace the 14'' with a new, redesigned 15'' w/ an optical drive. If HP really wants to compete with Apple (which they obviously do) they'll need one with a good screen. Just put all the Envy 14 components into a 15'' chassis with an optical drive. 15'' FHD displays are very abundant so HP won't run out of stock. BAM! Better clone of the MBP 15!

And make new Envy 13! =D If Apple and Sony can make a good 13'' laptop then HP definitely can!

 

If they can put an HD 6850 with a 1080p radiance display in an Envy 14/15 I'd be sold. I really don't care about an optical drive to be honest, I'd rather see dual drives, but whatever.

 

That was a long time ago. Things have changed. I have a 24" Sun LCD on my desk that proves it (as does the Apple Cinema displays)

 

I'm finding the same.

 

Just completed the install of my new radiance screen. All I can say is wow. The brightview screen is definitely a nice notebook display. However, this radiance display is just too damn sweet. Loving the extra room and vividness.

It does seem to be a bit on the cool side on the whites, but nothing a colorimeter won't take care of.

Edit: The only problem I ran across is the HP logo on the top of the lid. The backlight for it seems to be off-center. Not sure if I am going to have HP send me an exchange.... don't really want to open this thing up again and risk tearing a ribbon cable or something.

 

I'm really curious if a radiance can be retro-fitted to a beats. Any new info on this?
(I mean taking the screen out of the cover and putting it and the other parts in a beats cover.)

 

It appears these displays are not meant to be serviced in that manner -- the whole unit is intended to be replaced, not individual components. That's just the way these companies operate now.
You would really risk breaking something trying it.

 

Yeah i kind of figured that but i was hoping to hear back from someone who has opened the lid on these and taken a look.

I'd hate to spend that much on a radiance and then break it.

 

I saw the radiance screen today. I thought it was just hyped up but it's true. Colors are so vibrant and so easy on the eyes.

 

I agree and I love mine Everyone's always staring and commenting on my notebook when I bring it around too. I can't believe HP is taking so long to bring it back if it even is coming back. They f'ed up biiig time.

 

Crossing my fingers for return of the radiance display with the sandybridge Envy refresh (if there is one...)

 

I was actually cursing HP for running out and for me being hasty with my purchase when I saw the Dell XPS 15, with its nice display, but fortunately, being shortsighted idiots seems to run with these big companies, and they've also since run out of the 1920 displays. Who wouldn't get a hi resolution screen if they could? I mean, I'm *OK* with the screen i got with my envy, but it the option would have been nice.

Not that they acutally *do* options in the UK, but what the hey.

 

Bump and repped for super duper goodness.

 

Bump and repped for super duper goodness. ;-)

 

HP is not bringing back the radiance display. All of you who got the display before it was discontinued are really lucky!

Edit: There is an almost new envy 14 with Intel SSD on the marketplace. Good warranty too. I would have grabbed it if I hadn't made all these holiday purchases!

 

This is a huge bummer if they don't bring back the Radiance, which was why ppl got interested in this thing anyways. I personally want the 1600x900 resolution, as the 1366x768 resolution looks cramped and cheapy feeling--almost netbooky feeling. Brightness would be welcomed too, as all of the brightviews in stores are really dim compared to HP's laptops of the past.

 

I own a envy 14 with the new display and agree with dookie that it kinda looks cheap, but I have to admit that its easier on the eyes. For a 14.5' screen 1366x768 is ok, I had a macbook pro with 15' and 1440x900 and it was bad for my eyesight. seriously. cant imagine 1600x900 on a smaller screen.

 

1280x800 on my 14.1" dv2610us. It looks proportionally equivalent to my 20inch desktop monitor's 1600x900 reso. The 1366x768 just seems all squished, it's almost as bad as 800x600, but imagine it with a little wider desktop space but without actual space to put stuff/do things

 

I don't mind the resolution of the brightview myself. The only thing I wish was better were the colors. Everything just looks washed out and dim.