The definitive guide to the Envy trackpad

But beyond that, it can only detect two fingers if you separate them. Thats even documented on Synaptics site:

I'm starting to believe that's just the way Synaptic implemented and patented the thing and not a software/hardware limitation.

 

ok big notes here. Downloaded off of Somnios link and that did not even contain the preferences for the tap zones. Followed eafd's link back in page 19 for synaptics drivers install. After install I have the tap zone preferences but the light on my trackpad wouldn't turn off. I then did an update to 15.2.4.4 which has a preference tree with + and - areas of preferences to choose from. The light is still on and i do not have enable/disable capabilities.

Ideas anyone?
Also I still have reils on but am only using that for two finger scroll.
I had driver 15.3.1.4 as my "most updated driver" according to system up date.
The driver downloaded from synaptics is 15.2.20?
I'm still looking for 15.2.16.6 or more specifically a way to have touchpad on/off without having tapping on or at least minimized like eafd said. Thanks

Just wanted to add that in the mean time i will be doing a restore of my system to about 1 day ago before my last "update"
Edit: just did system restore and am at driver 15.3.1.4, the ball is in your court gentlemen

 

These drivers are really weird.

Sometimes tap to disable works on the first page drivers. Sometimes it doesn't. I'm going to find a reg key that does the disabling.

 

@Ezad12 you're right. Never noticed this but drivers 15.2.16.6 have the new layout but NOT the new features. However they have the "tap-to-disable" options and it works just fine for me.

 

keep me posted on the regedit as that could solve everything nicely. Maybe have tapping on in my 15.3.1.4 driver and regedit the zones for recognition? Just brainstorming here.

@Somino. I will try another install of the first page drivers and see it that works but so far it hasn't. Would you recommend an install of stock drivers? location of those? or just an uninstall of my driver?

 

I think you already got the better ones installed, but take a look here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-drivers-software-forum/594506-drivers-hp-envy-14-2xxx-intel.html
Remember to uninstall and reboot before installing the new drivers.

 

just checked it out but couldn't get what i wanted from downloading any of the three listed. Also one of them was mine (15.3.1.4)
Let me know if anybody has any ideas to get me to my goal. Post a step by step with uninstall/install order (with links would make testing really quick) thank you.
Also are there any HP Envy 14 2XXX users here or is it all first gen users? Would love some insight from somebody in my same position.
Thanks as always

 

How are the SB trackpads in comparison?

 

I'd chime in but even when rereading, I can't figure out what your problem was. I have an SB ENVY 14, and installed Reil's thing and I've never had a problem, even with the double-click to disable. Was that your problem? I'll help if I can.

 

I guess in the simplest way possible I do not want tapping but i do want the touchpad on/off to work. I too have reils enabled almost solely for two finger scroll. Everything else in reils is off to the best of my knowledge. Help would be greatly appreciated

 

Oh ok. I have tapping disabled and didn't even realize I couldn't double-tap to disable my touchpad anymore until I read what you just said. Don't know how to help then, sorry, but good luck!

 

yeah i just don't think that what i'm looking for is possible with the drivers at my disposal. I've tried older versions and setting limited tap areas and updating but then it doesn't even give me an option to set disable touchpad. Also most older versions just turn on my touchpad light permanently.
I guess I'll just stick with my newest driver and reils program for scrolling and deal with not being able to disable the touchpad.
On a side not mostly related to this thread how do I get my computer to recognize that I have a mouse plugged in and disable the touchpad? It's supposed to do that automatically but so far it hasn't disabled anything. My mouse is a wireless logitech mx revolution by the way. Scroll wheel is better than newest mx mouse but downside is that the receiver is mini not nano...

 

Go to your mouse settings (control panel - mouse - last tab "synaptics settings") and there should be a box that says disable touchpad when USB pointing device is used.

 

weird that it doesn't come pre-checked... done and happy about the mouse thing now.
Still waiting on a regedit or order of driver installs/updates/uninstalls to get disabling touchpad with a double tap/click in the top left without having tapping enabled (or at least minimized to a non-existent level)
Thanks and keep me updated on cures/possible solutions.

 

I've tried the process from post 1 on my 1XXX Envy 17 and I haven't been able to get the click anywhere feature working.

Can someone confirm that this has worked on the 1XXX series?

 

Have you gone to the settings and then changed the click options?

This driver should identify all synaptics pads as the new Clickpad 3 series.

If changing the settings doesn't work, start up Reil's, go to the options, then click on the little button with an asterisk in the lower left corner. Click "observe", and then look at the "physical button pressed" checkbox. Press the button down with your finger, then any non-conductive object. It should check the box every time your finger is depressing the button, but not when depressed with a non-conductive substance.

 

Thanks for the reply. I haven't installed Reil's yet... only the broken drivers after the uninstall, install, update, reinstall process.

When I go into the "clicking" settings, the only options are for what the left click and right click actions do, and the "Configure" buttons for each are grayed out. I don't see where in the settings I can set it to allow the click anywhere feature.

Is this supposed to work without Reil's?

 

It is supposed to work without reil's.

Try installing the stock drivers, then installing the broken ones over that. Don't update or anything else.

 

Does anyone know if Reil's software works on Linux? Has anyone tried it?

 

Pretty sure it wont since its based on .net

 

Well that sucks. Since the Envy trackpad isn't the normal touchpad found on other laptops, the Envy trackpad is basically useless on Linux..

=(
buyer's remorse?

 

Reil's uses Synaptics own sdk to parse the pad gestures. If this SDK is also available on Linux (seems possible since Synaptics has a gesture suite ready for Linux http://www.synaptics.com/solutions/technology/gestures/touchpad-linux), a port is not that difficult...
BTW there are several bug reports filed for Ubuntu about this. You can follow one here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/582809

 

Is there any way to turn off the touchpad light all together, regardless of whether or not it's disabled?

 

Does anyone know how to make those click-zones where the bottom buttons are not touch sensitive? I want to make standard "dedicated" buttons.

I checked the synaptics settings. Couldn't find them...

 

Are you using the drivers on the front page?

If so, you can do this:

TinyGrab - Simple. Screenshot. Sharing.

Except only use the bottom two zones and make them smaller so that they only cover the bottom button area.

If you're using the stock drivers, you can adjust "Advanced Palmcheck ACM" to only activate the touchpad in an area that excludes the bottom area.

 

ooohh I know the problem. I have HP's up-to-date drivers and I also have Reil's software. The 2 conflict in the click-zones. The HP/synaptics drivers automatically have click-zones so I can rest one finger on the button and navigate with the other finger. But with Reil's combined you can't do that because it recognizes those fingers and "scrolling".

Darn HP for getting out of the PC business. Will they ever implement Reil's software into the standard synaptics drivers... or did they just quit...?

 

Sadly it's impossible to circumvent this problem. The Synaptics SDK does not regard such rules set by the driver and thus will tell Reil's everything that happens on the touchpad.

 

HP is not necessarily getting out of the PC business. They simply publicly stated that they are exploring different options regarding their PC business. The three options include selling it, spinning it off as an independent company, and yes, even keeping it.

 

Well, I was tempted to send Two-fingers scroll source code to Synaptics á la "why you can't do this?"

 

I know!? Right. Can't synaptics buy that software from Reil? If Synaptics ends up integrating Reil's with their own drivers the end result would be epic.

- smooth scrolling with inertia
- 2 finger tap to right click
- 3 finger tap for 'whatever'
- ability to rest 1 finger on the button and use another finger to navigate
- anti-palm movement

 

Any idea why edge scrolling (both horizontal and vertical) will no longer work for me in Firefox? It works in Internet Explorer and other applications. I was using the 15.1.22.1 Synaptics driver. I updated to the latest (15.3.11.0) and it's still not working.

 

It works for me.

I'm running Nightly Alpha 9, though.

 

It used to work for me, too. I'm running Firefox version 6. The edge scrolling was working earlier, now all I get is a little rectangular scroll icon underneath the cursor when I try to edge scroll, but no scrolling happens.

 

Try Alpha 9 or some other version of FF

 

I'm curious about the "Scroll item under pointer" option. Seems to work only inside the active app, but not over different windows á la Linux/OSX. Anyone can confirm?

 

Is this in the Synaptics driver?

Anyhow, I use KatMouse for that. Lemme see if Synaptics does that, but I have to reinstall my drivers because the UI is screwed up. The driver page attempts to display the old-style UI under the new UI, but the functionality of the drivers are still okay.

Edit: It only works in the active app. This way, you can't scroll the active window when your pointer isn't on it, but you can't scroll other background windows.

 

Sorry, yes, and in my case, Katmouse is not working either. I can achieve something similar using Win7's accessibility options -birng to focus the window under the mouse- but its a bit irritating.

 

Hi, I just did a clean windows7 install on my envy 14 (1gen radiance) and when I want to start Reil's envyTouchpad.exe drivers, I have this error:

"Unable to initialize touchpad! exiting..."

Do any of you guys have an idea how to resolve that ?

(Those drivers where working perfectly on my old win7 install)

Thx!

EDIT: Problem resolved uninstalling and reinstalling the last synaptics drivers

 

I re-installed Firefox and the scrolling was working again. A few weeks later the problem came back after I had been viewing some PDF files. It turns out this particular problem has nothing to do with the touchpad drivers, but with the Adobe Acrobat Add-on.

By disabling the Adobe Acrobat Add-on my scrolling now works correctly.

 

man, I've just been using the default software for the envy 14 (nothing on top like reil's or whatever) and...I don't really mind it anymore.

Gonna blame the deadzone working properly (or well the advanced palmcheck zone set to ignore all input of both types)

 

Isn't the scrolling all kinda jumpy though? I wouldn't be able to go back to that after the smoothness of Reil's.

 

eh. I got used to scrolling via hitting space bar (basically pagedown). That's jumpy so it doesn't seem to bother me.

If you wanna make it smoothish you can always lower it from 3 lines to 1 line (but well then mouse wheel scrolling is weird)

think the main reason why I don't wanna use reil's is that it breaks the deadzone (2 finger scrolling will happen anyway since reil's doesn't take the advanced palmcheck stuff into account)

 

Yeah I put it down to 1 line; my issue is just that it doesn't start smoothly 1/3 times really. What do you use the deadzone for?

 

to keep me from accidentally moving the mouse around and stuff. I had lots of problems accidentally clicking things either on the text box I"m currently typing in or some sorta link that the mouse cursor had decided to move over.

Just an issue for how I type due to the size of the touchpad.

 

My trackpad will work fine for a few days, then suddenly will get all jumpy/freeze. I have never had a laptop with such an awful pad. Is there some kind of bloatware on the machine that can cause this? I've had it for less than 2 weeks and I'm ready to send it back. It's the new Envy14-2020. Pretty much at my wits end at this point.

 

I've narrowed down my issue, but don't know what I need to do in order to proceed. My trackpad works fine for the majority of the time, however if my computer goes to sleep, the trackpad will not function afterwards. I need to do a battery pull and let it sit for a few moments. Upon reboot, it works fine again. My Envy is less than 3 weeks old, and I updated the bios in order to see if that might fix the problem, but it did not. I'm at a loss here...has anyone had this issue and what did you do in order to fix it.

 

Have you tried uninstalling the synaptics software and driver and reinstalling it?

 

It sounds hardware related, pulling the battery has no effect on the drivers.

 

Agree. Try to reset the BIOS (or better CMOS reset, but I don't know if the battery is accessible by the user). If everything fails is time to contact HP :S

 

Is there a coder here that would be able to put a couple more options in the EnvyTouchPad program? I was hoping for an option to change the default action of two finger scrolling. I almost never have to scroll horizontally and was wondering if someone could put in an option to make horizontal scroll (left and right) trigger a keyboard shortcut. Kind of like what the program already does for three finger scrolling.

By the way, three finger up/down + switcher (proper keyboard shortcut designation) = perfect OS X expose clone. This is SO freakin' useful.