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    Discussion in 'HP' started by justinkw1, Feb 25, 2012.

  1. Andrew Baxter

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    lucjuh8, gave you rep, didn't realize you posted some of those videos and posted them earlier. Justin was just consolidating and didn't mean to steal any thunder from you!
     
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    Yeah... if the new dv7 quad keeps the current dv7's price then I think I found my new laptop :-D Time to ditch my Aspire 5732!

    I just wonder what discrete GPU - besides the 620 - they'll put in there..
     
  3. lucjuh8

    lucjuh8 Notebook Guru

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    I did not mean to be rude or anything, i just wanted it to be clear and it is now.
    I really hope there will be a good graphics card in the better models, not the 630m. This would just mean a downgrade from the present line-up. If there will be a matte 1080p screen and a better graphics card i will definitely buy one this summer. I just hope they will be available with these options in Europe.
     
  4. Raficoo

    Raficoo Notebook Guru

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    ^
    As for the graphics I sure hope so, 630m is somehow just a bit slower than the 7690m XT. However since there is no official leaks/indication of what the graphics card is yet I'd say this is just a rumor, Guess we're just gonna have to wait and see :/

    I too will buy a new Dv6 if it's something better than the 630m, that's why I cancelled my dv6 order a few days ago to wait for the new series.

    Worse case scenario(in my case) if the top for dv6 is 630m then I'll just reorder the laptop from before.
     
  5. fmmsf

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    I agree with you.. regarding buying in Europe: if you can buy it in the States (if you travel there or whatever) you can have a much better deal;-)

    About the Gpu, most of the info about the Keplers and new fermis is still under wraps. I'm guessing the higher end graphics option on the new DVs hasn't been disclosed so nvidia can keep their game plan secret regarding how their new GPU's compare to the new ones..
     
  6. dirtyfingers

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    It is nice that people posted links to videos of the upcoming series for everybody to see, but I see no reason why credit has to be given when they simply posted a link to a video somebody else created.
     
  7. trv26

    trv26 Notebook Geek

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    Anyone care to tell me what the port to the right of the HDMI port on the dv6 in the video is?
     
  8. Ichinenjuu

    Ichinenjuu Notebook Deity

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    I believe it's just an ethernet port with a cover.
     
  9. Drac

    Drac Notebook Enthusiast

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    Giving credit to your source is important when websites depend on ad revenue, and when you don't want to look like you may be guilty of plagiarism.

    If all he did was post links to the videos then it wouldn't have been obvious where he got the information, because then HP's youtube channel would be the source, but he posted details that could only be found together here.

    Anyway, if your source isn't secret or exclusive, you should give credit.


    It's not anything new really, but here's a link to a picture of the dv6:
    http://www.webservice-foto.net/foto.aspx?i=C7HE&t=grande&s=FBE7975-9283-466F-B432-065D14A05269
    and the dv7:
    http://www.webservice-foto.net/foto.aspx?i=C7HL&t=grandi&s=FBE7975-9283-466F-B432-065D14A05269

    Dimensions- length xheight xdepth; weight
    dv6: 37.8 x3.26 x24.7 cm 2.57kg
    dv7: 41.6 x3.52 x27.4 cm 3.15kg

    from http://www.ariannacomputer.it and http://www.giordanengocomputers.it and http://mediateksennori.it/

    At http://www.thesoundcomputer.net/ they have the Core i5 2450m listed as the processor (instead of the 3210m), but I think it's a mistake.
     
  10. neon10th

    neon10th Notebook Consultant

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    Hi guys,
    I just recently bought a dv6z that is expected to be delivered on March 20th. Do you think I'll make the 21 day refund policy by the time the Ivy Bridge dv6's come out? Is April 8th an actual confirmed date and will there be time to pre-order before then?
    Thanks
     
  11. Drac

    Drac Notebook Enthusiast

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    I could be wrong, but I think the 8th is when retailers will start to have them in stock or they'll be in transit on the way to retailers, but they will not be available to purchase until the 29th, (or so the rumors say).

    I don't know about pre-orders.


    Here's a decent article about the Ivy Bridge launch schedule, but I doubt the mobile chipsets will have to wait until June like the author says, especially since a couple Ivy Bridge notebooks are already available to pre-order.
    http://www.cpu-world.com/news_2012/2012031301_Ivy_Bridge_revised_launch_schedule.html
     
  12. justinkw1

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    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    What type of 1080p display will the DV6 have?

    I assume that the 14" DV4 gets only 768p as HD display was mentioned, not Full HD or HD+.
     
  14. lucjuh8

    lucjuh8 Notebook Guru

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    There is not too much of a difference between Europe and the US, i will not travel to te US this year so picking one up there is not an option. If i order one form the US from amazon i will have to pay 20% extra tax. So it is not cheaper if i get one from the US.
     
  15. fmmsf

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    You have to tell me where you live :eek: Where I come from a good current gen dv7 goes for 1300€ whereas the same model in the US goes for about 800€ (with coupon) :-D
     
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    Wait, did I read talk about a backlit keyboard ? I wish you were right, but HP would have included this awesome and yet still quite rare feature in somes mainstream products where it's alsmost non-existent and yet not a single word about it in its advertising videos ffs ? Sounds like either HP would want to fire immediately the marketing team that committed this epic fail, or it's definitely not gonna happen.
     
  17. R3d

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    Did you not see the screenshot from like 3 pages ago?
     
  18. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    The likely question: Individual LED for each key???
     
  19. HTWingNut

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    Yeah, Drac had a good eye to notice it, and screen grab and crop I posted here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/hp-...xxx-series-owners-lounge-579.html#post8378193
     
  20. lucjuh8

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    An hp dv6 with I7, the 2GB graphics card, 1080p display, 8GB ram and 750 GB hard drive costs in the Netherlands (where i live) 850 euros and in the US 1150 dollar. this is about 880 euros, and if i order it from the US i will have to pay an extra 20% tax.
     
  21. PaKii94

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    what do u guys think the upgraded gpu would be? I am torn b/w the envy refresh and dv6/dv4 refresh
     
  22. neon10th

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    Oh, gotcha. What is the likelihood of HP offering a 30% coupon or similar on the release date? Have they been known to do this?
     
  23. yknyong1

    yknyong1 Radiance with Radeon

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    GT 650M or GTX 660M
     
  24. HTWingNut

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    650m would make most sense, as it should be similar TDP to 555m which the DV6/7 can handle. 660m will most likely be more like the 570m and that may be too much heat to handle.
     
  25. yknyong1

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    Now... DDR3 or GDDR5?
     
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    Sure as hell hope it's GDDR5...
     
  27. Drac

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    Hehe. :D

    I took a screenshot; I was just feeling too lazy to upload it at the time.


    !!! Look!

    SemiAccurate Forums - View Single Post - Trinity - Enhanced BD
    (Thanks to 13a)

    dv6-7000 - HP Pavilion dv6-7000 Entertainment Notebook PC series Products for Home and Home Office

    dv7-7000 - HP Pavilion dv7-7000 Entertainment Notebook PC series specifications - HP Products for Home and Home Office products

    overview with a couple links to new models, including ones with Trinity as well as Ivy Bridge - HP Pavilion Home Notebook PCs - comparison results Products for Home and Home Office - HP



    :D Now we know the 650m with GDDR5 will be available. (See dv7 link above.)
     
  28. neon10th

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    Nice! I see that the dv7 is going to have an NVidia GT 650m (GDDR5). Do you guys think that's going to be the highest GPU upgrade?
     
  29. Drac

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    My guess is yes. Its TDP should be similar to that of the 7690m xt, with higher performance. I would expect the same, or even slightly higher performance than the 7750m that's reported to be in the upcoming ENVY 15/17.
     
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    Certainly the release of these machines are imminent. Just hope we can get some good feedback asap if it's a worthy update from Llano.
     
  31. lucjuh8

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    I think it is just a shame there is not thunderbolt in these models, they should have integrated them. I thought it was going to be almost standard with ivy-bridge, at least on the more expensive models like the dv6 and dv7.
     
  32. Raficoo

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    So I just cancelled my dv6 order with a 7690m XT just to find out the new dv6 will have a slower GT 630m Card :mad: (that's not even Kepler!)

    I hope there will be an option to select a GT 650m as well just as how both dv6/7 now can have the same cards.

    otherwise I might have to re-order the laptop again -_-

    hopefully in the end I hope a dv6 can look like this:
    CPU: i7-3610QM
    RAM: 8GB DDR3
    GPU: GT 650M 2GB
    Screen: 15.6" Full HD
    Backlit keyboard

    Guess only time will tell :/
     
  33. neon10th

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    I'm actually in the opposite situation. I just ordered a DV6z that's already out for delivery and supposed to come in on the 20th. I have no idea if I should bother going through the hassle of returning it or not. At least the 7690m is a heck of a lot better than my Mobility 3450, which pretty much can't play anything these days. By the time these new laptops come out, it'll be too late to get a refund. Does anyone think it's worth it to return it, considering I can't even play any games atm?
     
  34. justinkw1

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    Just to clarify: the new dv6 and dv7 will be using the same set of motherboards, so it is very possible that the dv6 will have a GT 650M (!) option. If it's for some reason not an option, you can always transplant a motherboard from a dv7 into a dv6. :D

    I updated the first post with the new details. Thanks Drac for the links!
     
  35. Drac

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    The leaks of the new models are just slow; have some patience. I'm 99.99% sure that the 650m will be an option for the dv6. HP's not dumb enough to take a (big) step backward in GPU performance, especially when new 28nm chips are available.


    Integrating Thunderbolt is much, much more expensive than other ports such as USB 3.
     
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    why are they putting a weaker gpu in the envy (7750m) compared to the dv6 (gt 650m)
     
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    probably because dv6 is getting a refresh and envy is from last year??
     
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    You don't know the performance of the 7750M yet and there are basically no reasons to doubt that it'll be in the same class as the GT650M. It should be a downclocked desktop 7750, which is 1/4 of a 7970 (roughly summarized ofc) while the GT 650M is 1/4 of a GTX 680 (again, that's basically the idea of it). I see no reason to be nervous about a huge gap between the two.

    As to why HP took that decision it could be that since the envy will most likely just get a hardware update it was more convenient to keep using AMD chips, unlike the new dv6/dv7 which were built from the ground for this generation of CPU/GPU.
     
  42. PaKii94

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    hmm i guess i gotta wait and c :p
     
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    So are the 650M expected to be an upgrade over the 7690M? And damn I wish they had used regular size up/down arrows
     
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    No Thunderbolt on these? Wonder what the cheapest laptop with a decent monitor and 3720qm is going to be (For eGPU) dont hope I have to buy a new business grade laptop to get that (all though I like my W520, its just too expensive)
     
  45. yknyong1

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    It is a definite upgrade. GT 640M already beat 7690M hands down.
     
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    As much as I don't want to go nVIDIA because I've experienced nothing but trouble with their Optimus technology, the new dv7 (that is, considering the dv6 does not have the 650M as reported) surely got my attention with its original (non MBP-like) styling and full gaming prowess.

    Hope the Ivy Bridge Envy 15 gets announced soon. Either it's that or I'd pick up the dv7.
     
  47. lucjuh8

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    You like the dv7 because it doesn't look like a mbp but you rather have a envy if it has the same hardware? There isn't a laptop which looks more like a macbook than the envy, i'm not following.
     
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    I actually would be willing to pay more for 1 thunderbolt port. From what I read they will have 3 USB 3.0 ports and 1 USB 2.0 port on the DV7. I would have liked to have at least the option of having 3 USB 3.0 ports and 1 Thunderbolt port.
     
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    About 3-6 months ago it cost 20usd to have a thunderbolt port on a laptop so I suppose it might cost less now. But even using 20bucks as refference I think the kind of people who buy a dv6 or dv7 would be perfectly willing to pay that price for the extra feature.. maybe they'll add it down the line :)
     
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    The thing is that there are very few peripherals that actually use Thunderbolt so HP doesn't have much motivation to add it.
     
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