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    dv6000t Current/ Prospective Owners Lounge

    Discussion in 'HP' started by nucleus1872, Sep 1, 2006.

  1. therock

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    What operating system does it have?
     
  2. Ci-Daemon

    Ci-Daemon Notebook Guru

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    Your configuration isn't all that "low"- you got a Core 2 Duo, which is the best series that is available, and even if you ended up with one of the slower models it's still substantially better than a core I duo or solo. You also got the best graphics card available, which is good since that virtually can't be upgraded. Remember that you can always upgrade the RAM and HDD later, if you have performance issues. It's good also that you got all of the features, like webcam and bluetooth/wireless, since you can't upgrade these either. Basically, your rig was a good buy because you got everything that can't be upgraded high-end, and everything that is low-end can be upgraded later, if you need to.
     
  3. Broadus

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    Madness909:

    Did you custom order it from shopping.hp.com or did you order a pre-configured notebook for a retailer such as circuitcity.com or compusa.com?

    Either way, do a search for "Returns." You should find it in the FAQ section of Customer Service. It will tell the process. You will have to request a return authorization number or something like that. If it's HP, they will probably set up a pickup by FedEx or UPS, whichever they use.

    First, though, if you ordered it from HP, you may want to call their customer support number and talk to a technician to explain your problem. If it cannot be solved, he/she will probably recommend your returning it for an exchange.

    Others who have had to return to HP can perhaps give you further help. I've ordered CTO from HP, but it's been several years ago and I didn't have to return it.

    Bill
     
  4. vka2

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    Hye Broades,

    Thanks for replying..is it due to the hard drive? just wondering if hard drive was causing the weird high pitch sound, but it does not sound like a fan or a motor.

    thanks
    vka2
     
  5. therock

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    Been knocking on wood here. Running it hard playing supplied games, internet, Photoshop CS2 and no whine. I have not even heard my hard drive.
     
  6. Broadus

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    Seems like I read that someone thought his high pitch sound was coming from the hard drive, but almost everyone says it is coming from the Core 2 Duo processor. Mine seems to be coming from the center of my keyboard, and if it were coming from the hard drive it would be louder under the left palm rest. That is where I understand the hard drive to be because the computer is a little warmer there than elsewhere. I'm no expert, but I don't think it's the hard drive.

    If someone knows where the processor is located, that would help determine the noise for sure. Is the processor anywhere near the center of the computer?

    Bill
     
  7. ZROCWS6

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    Any one try using the Belkin Easy Transfer Cable? I am trying to transfer all my stuff over and on my old computer when it gets to the point where it trys to start the transfer it pops up an error message saying it must close. I am getting really frustrated. I just want to get all my pictures and music and videos transfered and I cant even fricken do it with a certified "Easy" cable! :realmad:
     
  8. syberdave

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    Is it just me or did they really skimp out on the audio card (nVidia Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio)? I think that it only takes 48000Hz data (so your software has to convert it) and it only takes 2 data inputs (so your software has to do the mixing).
     
  9. Broadus

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    I thought about getting the Belkin cable but didn't want to spend $40 for a one-time deal. Especially since, at least according to my understanding, you had to reinstall manually your applications and then use the cable to transfer files.

    So, without meaning to insult, did you reinstall your programs manually before trying to transfer files from your XP to your Vista computer? Maybe I'm missing something.

    However, if you already reinstalled your apps before using the cable to transfer files, I'm at a loss. It's made out to be a simple process.

    Bill
     
  10. Broadus

    Broadus Notebook Evangelist

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    Would it matter whether you're running Vista or Linux? I was wondering about driver support.

    Bill
     
  11. Ci-Daemon

    Ci-Daemon Notebook Guru

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    I assume, since this is an extremely similar case for the Core 2 Duo MacBooks, that the processor is really the thing making the whining noises. Since Apple fixed the issue for some using a mainboard update, it seems that this would be the only way to remedy it on the dv6000 as well, except for said "software workarounds" and positioning.
     
  12. syberdave

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    I think that Windows makes this transparent to you. But in Linux, you'd have to take extra steps to set up the software stuff.
     
  13. ZROCWS6

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    The only programs that I have installed on the Notebook are MSN Messenger, AIM, Yahoo, AVG, Ad-Aware, CCleaner, SpyBot, and FireFox. No games or no other programs.

    The problem is in XP when I am to the point where I selected the files which are just my Pictures, Video, and Music it says Analyzing and then pops up the error saying Easy Transfer needs to close due to an error.

    And I cant get a network to freaking setup between the two either. I have never done it before so I really dont know what to about it.
     
  14. Broadus

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    I suggest posing the problem as a new thread in the Windows OS forum, since the Belkin Easy Transfer has doubtlessly been used by folks with various computers running on Vista.

    Hope you the best.

    Bill
     
  15. Broadus

    Broadus Notebook Evangelist

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    What I meant was would the OS and its particular drivers make the audio perform differently? In other words, may the Linux drivers not be as good as the Vista drivers at present in this particular case. Sorry I was not clear.

    Bill
     
  16. ZROCWS6

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    Ok. Thanks for you input!
     
  17. Broadus

    Broadus Notebook Evangelist

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    Do I understand that the Mac Core Duo had the whining problem? PC users started noticing the problem only after the Core 2 Duo's came out, if I'm not mistaken (and prone to mistakes I am :rolleyes:).

    Bill
     
  18. pete-o

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    Well...count me in:

    * – Genuine Windows Vista Business
    * – Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo T7200 (2.0GHz/4MB L2Cache)
    * – 15.4" WXGA BrightView Widescreen (1280x800)
    * – 256MB NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) Go 7400
    * – HP Imprint Finish + Microphone + Webcam
    * – 2GB DDR2 System Memory (2 Dimm)
    * – FREE Upgrade from 60GB 5400RPM to 80GB 5400RPM!!
    * – FREE Upgrade: 8X DVD+/-R/RW w/Double Layer Support
    * – 802.11b/g WLAN
    * – No TV Tuner w/remote control
    * – 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery
    * – Microsoft(R) Works 8.0
    * – System Recovery DVD w/Windows Vista Business
    * – HP Home & Home Office Store in-box envelope

    for $1346.99 from the HP Home & Office store. I also got the 1 year support for an extra $100 bucks. Teh intrawebs said it'll ship by 3/21 - I'll report back how long it takes to get from China to Seattle. :)
     
  19. ZROCWS6

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    Hey Broudus, a buddy of mine helped me get them to network together! So i can transfer all my stuff over that way. Just thought I would let ya know. That "Easy" Transfer Cable is not what it says thats for sure. Thanks for your input. This forum is awesome!!
     
  20. syberdave

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    I guess that could be, but I haven't really tried my soundcard in Vista. In Linux, everything performs fine besides for the fact that if I don't use some software mixer, only 2 programs can access the sound card at the same time.

    Another thing that may be considered lacking is that there's no way to detect whether headphones are plugged in. So, I'd have to manually mute one and unmute the other.
     
  21. junknstuff

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    i noticed today that the whining noise goes away after you plug in the power adapter.

    this makes me think it could also be a ground issue, but also that capacitors work under different loads so perhaps when the power plug is in the capcitors are working less?

    i dont know...i wanna believe its a ground issue but more then anything, i want that whining solved! none of the temp fixes work on my lappy and i have quiet the ear and its just annoying...lol
     
  22. Broadus

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    Glad you got it going. Enjoy your new computer, and stick around to help others through what you learn.

    Bill
     
  23. waverider969

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    Anyone notice that when you pick up the laptop while its on (closed lid of course) to carry it to another room, the whines (fan or others) tend to get louder or alternate as you move or flip the laptop around. Odd.
     
  24. metr0man

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    how portable do you guys think the dv6000 is? I know a friend of mine has a dv2000 and sits or lays with it on his lap very comfortably. Can you guys do the same with the dv6000 without it being too unwieldy?

    I tried to gauge it (sitting with his dv2000 and visualizing an extra inch on all sides) but couldn't really tell.
     
  25. therock

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    It's fine. I am a large person though. I have the 12 cell battery and it does hang down but it does not bother me in my lap. I love how it angles it upward on a desk.
     
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    Bump :D

    Anyone at all? Or did you all have good cases?
     
  27. Broadus

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    Both of mine look like the photo of the right side of your computer. Mine seems the same.

    Bill
     
  28. Broadus

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    I carry mine all over. In fact, when it's in my lap, I think I could have even gotten by with the dv9000t (17 in.). It is none too large, IMO. I wouldn't want anything any smaller.

    Bill
     
  29. hieunknown

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    I have the same question. I was looking for the dv2000t but the price is slightly higher than the dv6000t and the video card is only 128M. I don't think there's any problem when you carry it arround since I used to have the HP ZV6000 with 12 cell battery. The dv series is lighter than the ZV. You need to have a backpack so you can carry your laptop around in school for a whole day. If you travel a lot with your laptop, the dv2000t is a good size, especially on an airplane. The last time I was on a flight with my Sony 14.1 in, when the seat in front of me in upright position, I had on problem. Whenever it was inclined back, the tray moved toward me. The angle between the tray and the back of the front seat is not perpendicular anymore so I had to move the laptop all the way toward me. Luckily, I'm small size so I had enough room. I think with the 15.4 in laptop, I can't make it. Is there anybody used the 15.4 in when the front seat inclined? I also used my laptop as a GPS device when travelling so small size is better. However, due to the price and hardware spec, I'm planning to buy the dv6000t now. :)
     
  30. kevinj

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    Hey, I just purchased Pavilion dv6000t (T5600 and 2G ram) from Costco online last week and received it Yesterday. During the first use, I noticed some noise from cpu (maybe Core 2 Duo's problem?) and loud fan's running sound. The fan ran every 2 to 3 mins. We tried to use it on my laps and also wood/floor but same.

    I saw some guys experienced the same problem.
    Do you guys think this is just my laptop's problem or Pavilion's common behavior.

    If mine's problem, I will return it and try to use something else.
    BTW, has anybody gotten the same/or similar from Pavilion turion 64x2?

    Kevin
     
  31. sandt38

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    Yet another "aye" on portability. Like therock I am a large man (6'1" 215#), so I may not be a great judge. My wife, however, is tiny (5'2" 105#) and she loves the size of it, and thinks it is portable. It may be a bit heavy (I have the 12 cell battery), but we are both in good shape so it doesn't bother us.

    Like Bill, I think the computer is just right. I was thinking about the dv2000t myself, but after extensive time messing around at CompUSA with both computers (and even playing with monitor settings) I decided the dv2000 just wasn't big enough, most particularly, how it looked like Photoshop would display.
     
  32. sandt38

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    Nice rig, mine is quite similar. I have seen alot of people talking about the noise from the C2D processor, but I fortunately don't have that issue. Airman posted a fix, just search for noise by user airman and you should find the remedy. It isn't just the Pavilion, it is the processor.

    My fan also runs every couple minutes, but it is not loud. I can't hear it over my typing, and I am not a heavy fingered typist.
     
  33. therock

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    Holy Moly I feel fortunate. My fingers are crossed.
    Several hours of mixed work and no noise at all.
    The fan cycles and is whisper quiet.
    A little warmer under the left wrist pad but hardly noticable.
    The touch pad does not heat up at all.
    The Matte "SEC" (Dreaded Samung Display) Is fantastic.

    The 2.0 GHz "Rock & Roll's
     
  34. waverider969

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    mine is a bit warm on left side but touch pad feels warm too. Too bad I live in FL and can't take advantage of using this baby outside in the cold conditions and still keep my hands warm. maybe these were made for folks up north in those fansy outdoor coffee shops during cold spring days.
     
  35. Broadus

    Broadus Notebook Evangelist

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    The bit of warmth under the left palm rest is normal. I believe that is where the hard drive is located. Fortunately, it's not hot. That would be unbearable during the summer. ;)

    Concerning the whining sound (or high pitch noise), mine is barely noticeable. BTW, there is a new bios update out. Go to hp.com support, put your model in, and check out the new bios listed for Intel (t) models (not z, which is AMD). I have heard that that has helped with the noise, but, like I've said, mine wasn't that bad to start with.

    As far as fan noise, I wish I could hear what someone is talking about. My fan comes on, but it's not loud. It's just a fan. If it's noticeably loud, perhaps annoyingly so, I would exchange it. My fan's sound is what I would expect on any make of computer.

    Bill
     
  36. Marengo

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    Hello everybody,
    Last week I bought a DV6200 notebook (CPU: T5600, RAM: 2GB, Nvidia 7400, HDD: 160GB, TV-Tuner etc.)

    I have spent the last 3 days trying to update al my programs to vista-compatible versions. At last everything seems to run ok apart from the DVD recorder.
    The problem is that it fails almost always to burn a CD or DVD!!!
    The simulation finishes always without any problems but the real burning phase fails at some point especially towards the end.

    At first, I thought it was (or it is?) a software problem. I updated Nero to last version 7.7.5.1 that is meant to be vista compatible. Didn’t work.
    I tried the included Roxio software.Same problems.

    The curious thing is that I have burnt successfully a CD-RW (an old Verbatim 4x) and an .iso image file on a DVD+RW (TDK). Hopefully I have also burnt successfully the restore disks but apart from these every other tries failed.

    I thought it may be down to some kind of incompatibility with the brand of the disks. I tried the following disks (Verbatim CDRW 4x, Verbatim CDRW 10x, TDK CDRW 10x, TDK DVD +RW 4x) but I had the same problems.
    The curious thing is that the TDK DVD +RW burnt ok an .iso image file but failed to burn a data compilation!

    Anybody have the same problems?
    Do you have an idea of what might be the reason (software, Vista, brand of disks used, the recorder itself)?

    Apart from these problem, everything else runs perfectly. Please help me!!!
    I am desperate. I don’t know what else to do...
     
  37. TomTom2007

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    Yep, I got that annoying buzzing/whining noise too. It's really starting to drive me nuts (just received my laptop last Thursday).

    So are there any better or permanent fixes other than the two solutions that Airman posted? I mean, is this problem fixable via firmware or software update rather than doing a total recall? Shouldn't HP do something about it?

    Also my laptop is also running pretty warm just the left side (especially the left-bottom part), but not to the point where it's really hot.

    ______________________________
    Edit:

    Ok, you guys are not gonna believe this, but just after I completely shut the computer down a couple minutes ago, I can STILL hear the buzzing sound (this is the first time it occurs). Interesting enough, the laptop was still charging at that time (blue battery indicator was on), so I un-plugged the power cord and suddenly the noise was gone, however the moment when I plugged it back in the whining noise came back and the laptop was not even on. I mean, what the hell? It was really weird.
     
  38. therock

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    On a different subject.
    I got the recovery DVD's with my system. How are they different from the d: drive?
     
  39. sandt38

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    The TDK DVDs are junk, but if you are burning with Verbs and having problems, there is another issue. I too have 7.7.5.1, and I got it to burn a CD-RW. I haven't tried to burn any DVDs with it. I use IMG Burn for all my DVD work but with that said, I don't do any DVD work that is not film related. I think all I got right now are Taiyo Yuden mags, and I will not waste that media on a data rip, but if I have some junk discs I'll rip one up tonight with Nero and report back to you.

    2 things for you, first look at the hardware profile and determine your DVD drive. I have helped someone else here figure out that some drives that HP has installed (Slimtype DVD A DS8AZH to be exact) were junk drives. I wound up lucky and got a solid TSSTcorp (toshiba) burner that works great.

    Second, if we can't find issue with the DVD drive, I might suggest you load IMG Burn and try burning an .iso on the Verb. I have only seen 1 or 2 coasters with Verbs, that weren't user/driver error, so I suspect more than anything it will be a crappy drive.
     
  40. Ag76

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    I've got a similar question...I also bought the recovery DVD from HP, and wonder if I still should burn the recovery set in recovery manager. Is the set burned from the recovery manager different from the purchased DVD?
     
  41. waverider969

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    I swear it seems these windows updates cripple rather then fix issues. Since the last update my Vista hangs on shutdown, req force power off. I went to do a sys restore m only to find it wasn't activated by default. Joy again.
     
  42. Broadus

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    As a result of this post, I checked to see which DVD drive I have: the Slimtype DVD A DS8AZH. I haven't used it to record anything, but in discovering which drive I have I also discovered that I, evidently, have to designate the DVD Region to the United States (Region 1). No region had been selected. Could this have anything to do with Morengo's problem?

    Bill
     
  43. Broadus

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    I'm sorry to hear about that. I have automatic updates selected, and I haven't had any problems with them.

    Bill
     
  44. sandt38

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    Your region code is for film playback. Nero will emulate all region codes on films for burning, so region codes become moot. Also, he stated that he was able to burn a .iso file, which is a DVD film output filetype... It seems the issues he is facing is data DVDs, rather then film.

    I actually learned about the issue searching for another member here on a DVD burning forum I frequent. Tracking down Slimtype was difficult enough, but when I found it, it appears to have been popular in Dell lappys late last year. It seemed everybody in the thread (that was several pages long) had various burning issues. Some would not burn data, others wouldn't burn .iso, some wouldn't do -Rs, others +Rs, others RWs... etc., etc. In every case the computer went back to the mfg, a new drive unit was installed, and the issue resolved.
     
  45. Broadus

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    Thanks for the info, though not welcomed, I'm afraid. I'll have to try some burning to see if mine is a problem.

    Bill
     
  46. Marengo

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    First of all, I would like to thank sandt38 for his fast answer.
    I agree that the TDK media is low quality, but I also have never experienced problems with Verbatim, … ok until now.

    My DVD recorder is a “MAT****A DVD-RAM UJ-850S”
    The firmware version is 1.05
    I have read some negative comments about this drive. Most people think that it is a low quality product.

    But apart from this I think I have found something relative in a french forum!
    Somebody, with the same problems and recorder on a HP DV6100 notebook, reported that the reason may be that the “IMAPI CD-Burning COM Service” is not activated by default.
    It can be found on “Control Panel – Administrative Tools – Services” on Windows XP systems.
    The problem is I cannot find it on my Windows Vista notebook.

    What do you think of that?

    I will try to burn some CDs/DVDs with ImgBurn too.
    Do you have any other ideas/suggestions?

    Last question: In case of crappy drive, is it possible to change the internal recorder on HP DV6200 series notebooks?

    PS For Broadus.I don't think tha region setting have something to do with my problems.
     
  47. Broadus

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    It's interesting that the Slimtype DVD A DS8AZH hasn't been mentioned in this thread until today. Has HP just started using it, or has no one had a problem with it? I did find a couple of other HP threads dealing with it, both within the past month.

    In my search I also discovered that sandt38 is all over the place! LOL (and I'm grateful.)

    Bill
     
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    I will be visiting your country later this year. My family will be spending a week in Rome and a few Days in Venice. We were thinking of going to Amalfi for a day as well, and I suspect we will have had more than enough time in Rome and Pompeii with our 7 days allotted to justify this... Anyways:

    I'll do some research on the drive tomorrow for you, as it is midnight and I have to be up at 6AM for work tomorrow, but I wanted to quickly pass some info on to you.

    I also searched for the pathway you mentioned and did not find it. Unfortunately my XP rigs are both asleep for the evening, so I can't get a grasp on this location to try to sort it out on Vista for you tonight. But, You said you were able to burn .iso and CD-RWs I would suspect a CD burning pathway would be open. I could be mistaken, but that is what logic dictates.

    What about drive speed? I had an old Sony DVD drive that was rated at 4X but didn't like to burn over 2X. Check to see if you have your drive speed on Nero pre-set, or set to max. Ensure it is within drive specs, as overdriving the unit will swallow precious cache and halt or even stop burning, overheating the disc, etc. If it is within spec, or set to preset, try slowing it down (say from 8X to 6X). I mention this now because in re-reading your initial post I see it appears you are having no issue at the onset of the burn but it tails off at the end. Did you do a verification scan on Nero? The verification image and file log may also help to determine what is going on, if you can provide them. IMG Burn also has a drive speed selection at the bottom right corner of the main operational window. Try slowing it down there as well.

    I'll get back with you tomorrow on this. We'll get something figured out.

    And about the drive, sure it can be replaced if need be.
     
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    Looks new to HP. I found it in some Dells, Acers, and Sonys in my research.

    I do tend to get around. I know a little about allot. My biggest fancy is home audio and theater and everything that goes with it, and cars (do a search for my Grand National :cool: )... but I am sandt38 all over the internet.
     
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    Ok after numerous CD/DVD burns here are the results:

    What FAILED:
    1. I tried 2 different Verbatim CD-RWs 10x, one TDK CD-RW 10x.
    2. I tried burning 2 different .iso files (built with ImgBurn containing data files, not video) and after that some direct data file compilation.
    3. I used Imgburn version 2.2.0.0 , Nero v7.7.5.1 and Roxio software that came with notebook.
    Every imaginable combination of the above failed.
    I even tried to burn the Verbatim disks at a lower speed (4x) but failed.
    The same media disks worked ok with the same files on my desktop PC. So it is not a media disk failure/problem.

    What WORKED:
    1. The only media that worked is a (very) old Verbatim CD-RW 4x and a TDK DVD+RW 4x.
    2. I tried both of them with Nero and ImgBurn.

    It appears to be a media disk incompatibility problem but I’m not sure yet! The curious thing is that, the last 10 years, I always used all kinds of Verbatim disks with a huge number of CD/DVD recorders and I have never experienced any kind of problem. I cannot say that for other brand disks.

    Just to make the situation more complex, I would like to add that the very first disk I have burnt with the notebook’s recorder was a Verbatim DVD+R 4x with the internal windows burning option and it burnt ok!

    So is it a TDK/Verbatim CD-RW specific problem with the “MAT****A DVD-RAM UJ-850S”?
    I am not sure yet.

    Last information: As I have said earlier the firmware version of my recorder is 1.05
    Somewhere in a French forum I read that somebody has the same recorder with a 1.21 firmware version in a HP DV6200 notebook and he doesn’t experience any problem. Is it possible to find somewhere this firmware?
     
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