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    nVidia Class Action Fairness Hearing is Tomorrow - Almost time to make a claim!

    Discussion in 'HP' started by Mr. Fox, Dec 19, 2010.

  1. I didn't do it

    I didn't do it Notebook Guru

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    They probually are hunting for a place in the China slums that can make it cheaper and of course less quality, so chill out, like the olde maid, she'll come.

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    I didn't do it Notebook Guru

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    PS, in case you need something fast check this out: TigerDirect.com | WEM2676 | Our Lowest-Priced Dual-Core Laptop Ever!

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    Personally I'd get an estimate on repairing it correctly or to repair the shoddy workmanship, then take them to small claims court.
     
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    NVIDIA is paying for the repair, so I'm surprised that Dell would shortchange you (HP would be another story...). Of course the settlement agreement does state, "Neither NVIDIA nor the OEMs make any representation, warranty or guarantee that any Chip Replacement will eliminate any malfunction or symptom." This whole settlement is a giant sham - from HP owners getting a POS to other OEMs not actually fixing the problem.
     
  7. I didn't do it

    I didn't do it Notebook Guru

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    They have shot their selves in both feet as far as I am concerned.
    I am starting to understand why Apple computers are rated so high
    by their customers. my daughter had a new DV9000 that she bought
    from compusa, I guess they took a dump, so I did the hair dryer fix and
    she gave it to her mother <myX> and as far as she knows it is still working.
    So she bought a MacBookPro and loves it. There is no cooling fan in it that I
    can see or hear and it seems like the bottom is the heat sink.

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  8. shinobi1

    shinobi1 Notebook Consultant

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    My best understanding is that there were laptops, manufactured by Apple, that contained the bad nVidia components.

    Apple stonewalled their customers just like HP and Dell did.

    When the bad components became recognized, all laptops containing them should have been recalled . . . and replaced with a new laptop not containing a bad GPU.

    Regardless brand: This did not happen.
     
  9. Neo777

    Neo777 Notebook Geek

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    Your are right. Apple did the same. Apple made the free GPU repair but people complained that they started experiencing the same problems again.
    Due to the nature of laptop design (parts exclusive to each model, which I hate btw) the only thing that is fair and right was to replace the whole laptop.
     
  10. core2avs

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    May not be so interesting, but settlement website has been updated to inform replacement computers started shipping

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    [UPDATED 5/12/2011]: The shipment of replacement units began to class members with valid HP replacement claims who have returned their original HP or Compaq computer.
    
       1. Please note that these computers are being shipped primarily in the order in which the original computer was received. Your patience is appreciated.
       2. Technical questions about product information should be directed to the manufacturer of the replacement computer.
    
     
  11. eccentriceric

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    about darn time. i wonder how many each day are going out? hope we all get ours this week or next.
     
  12. Garyr51

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    I just got off the phone with one of their reps. He said that it may take 14 weeks. I told him that as of yesterday, they have had my computer for 13 weeks, so does that mean you will be sending it next week??? He said he could not commit to that, and that he only knows what Nvidia tells him. I asked if any computers have been sent out yet, and he said no. No computers have been sent out.
     
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    That is too optimistic. I would be happy if I get one in next three weeks. I have sent mine in march second week.
     
  14. core2avs

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    6->8->10->14->?

    this is how it is going on, I am very pissed of with this.

    I wonder why this much time is required to send a computer for approved replacement once they receive the computer, verified and accepted.
     
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    oh yeah, im surprised this hasnt been everyones battle cry form the beginning..

    whoever devised the settlement of repair to a disposable technology like this was obviously [ insert your insult here ].
     
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    Just got my replacement today 5-13-11 (asus eee bk-37), i must be one of the first. I’m just glad that i’m finally done
     
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    When did you return or ship your tx1000?
     
  18. DLM1

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    i sent it 3-8-11, and they got it the 10th
     
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    So, what can we expect? Windows 7 Starter? New 1 year Warranty?
    Please post some of the specs. Not able to find a lot about this machine.

    Thanks
     
  20. shinobi1

    shinobi1 Notebook Consultant

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    Not at all. Very interesting, indeed, at least to me. And I would not have seen this if you had not taken the time to post it. Thank you very much!!

    EDIT

    On a more sober note:

    Since I just sent in my laptop it appears t'will be a long time before I ever see a CQ56. I'm thinking like:

    Happy Halloween everyone!

    Have to wonder how much a dusty, antiquated, old CQ56 will be worth on Halloween. Not a whole lot, I expect.
     
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    I sent mine on 2-25-11 and they should've got it by march 1st. and still haven't got my new one.
     
  22. DLM1

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    Has windows 7 Starter, 1gig ram, dual core cpu, 1 year factory warranty.
    For what it is it runs pretty good, it seems fairly snapy so far. I am going to upgrade it to 2gig ram and to windows 7 premium.

    I also kept my disc drive from my tx1000 (i taped the door cover back on the tx1000, so they must not of niticed :D ) Does anyone know any good enclosers i can use for for it, thanks.
     
  23. eccentriceric

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    cool. congrats on your netbook. your funny about keeping the cd drive and taping the cover on. Serves them right ;)
     
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    Been following this thread off and on since the settlement debacle started. Sadly, you all got so screwed.

    Sure I can say I will never buy anything nVidia, Dell, HP/Compaq, or Apple but the fact is that, today and in the future, I'll buy what is quality regardless of brand or rocky history. However, there is 1 thing I learned and will absolutely adhere to from now on:

    ALWAYS OPT-OUT FROM CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS. NO EXCEPTIONS!

    Lawyers are F UCKING CROOKS and so are the "incompetent" judges making absurd rulings. Consumers are the ones who get boned.
     
  25. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    Hi Lunar Aura. I agree with most of your comments. Good advice on opting out of class actions.

    How the OEM handles any situation like this one speaks volumes about the OEM. For example, Dell was taking care of many, if not most, customers with the NVIDIA defect while this class action was ongoing. I started out with Dell's flagship über-expensive gaming beast XPS M1730, (which had defective NVIDIA components and was on the affected model list,) and ultimately ended up with my current Alienware as a warranty replacement. Dell has treated me very fairly and has won my loyalty through their superior service and fair treatment. In contrast, HP has stonewalled most customers all along and refused to help most of them, denied a problem existed, refused to accept any responsibility for selling a defective product, etc.

    There are a whole bunch of us that are done with HP based on their nonchalant attitude, crummy service and the underhanded manner is which they treated their customers that purchased products with the defect relating to this class action. In my case, the disenchantment with HP started a few years prior to owning the machine relating to this class action, so they have a track record or poor service with me. Thankfully, I cannot speak from experience with crApple products, as I have zero interest in their products and never will.

    Building you own desktop has always been a better option in my book, but DIY options are limited when it comes to notebooks. Things can go wrong with defective hardware components with any brand of computer. Painting Dell, HP and Apple with the same brush in the context of this situation is not fair and objective.

    The above quoted part of your comments has me a little confused. I'm not sure how to interpret the statement that you will "never buy anything nVidia, Dell, HP/Compaq, or Apple" with " I'll buy what is quality regardless of brand or rocky history." Those two comments almost seem contradictory. Can you elaborate on what your thoughts are for clarity?
     
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    I didn't do it Notebook Guru

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    I CAN PICTURE ONE BLIND MAN BEING THE ONLY ONE IN THE SHIPPING DEPARTMENT, THAT'S AN OUTRAGE, THEY ARE COOKING THEIR OWN
    NUTS IN THE LONG RUN.

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    I didn't do it Notebook Guru

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    When the economy goes sour companies cut back on everything they can to get a little more copper out of the Penney, their bottom line is their first line. Look at what happened to GM, I sure never expected them to fall below the gutter and into the sewer, so sometimes it comes back to bite them, but the customer always get screwed.


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    Doesn't really matter to me, I sent my F572US to them this week and as soon as I get the craptacular CQ56 it's going on craigslist, unopened. Figure I might get $250-275 for it at least. I have seen them on sale at Fry's for $279 from time to time, but those have the Celeron 900 CPU.
     
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    The model we're receiving retails at Best Buy for $279, so I wouldn't expect to get much over $200 on Craigslist. Good luck though.
     
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    Good idea on that lol. Just wondering is it DDR3 or DDR2?
     
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    It has DDR2.

    So far it runs just as good as my old tx1000 if not a little better. I don't push my computers very hard throuth.
     
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    have you tried multitasking with it yet? ie like watching youtube or netflix and doing a virus scan or video converting? I'm a heavy multitasker. a bit a ADHD in the blood. not that we would expect much but i'm interested in know how it fairs. oh wait you got the ASUS. i was thinking of the Comcrap.
     
  33. DLM1

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    Does youtube fine. Don't have virus protection yet. I used webroot on the tx1000 and it would kill my performance whenever i ran a scan and used to take around 3 hours to finish
     
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    Youtube has HD and non-HD. It may be interesting to some whether the dual-core upgrade works better with HD videos. The originally proposed ASUS was a single-core(N450) and reportedly was really bad at playing HD videos. But the dual-core(N570) is at the same clock frequency so it may or may not be much better..---the question is whether youtube can take advantage of dual-cores.
     
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    I'm very curious, too. If I receive the CQ56 I will do some benchmarks and let you know. It has been 10 weeks since the approval date.. I have to decide whether it is necessary to upgrade the CPU or not.
     
  36. Mr. Fox

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    Are there now two certifiable dumb-dumbs, or two people that simply did not read the question carefully enough to select the obvious answer? It's sad to think that two people could be so deficient in their cognitive reasoning skills to answer "Yes" to this poll on purpose. Giving benefit of doubt, my guess would be that neither of the yes voters was paying attention when submitting their vote.

    [​IMG]
     
  37. shasta7

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    2 dumb-dumbs Hmmmm

    Westerman and Peddie maybe?

    Just Askin :D
     
  38. Mr. Fox

    Mr. Fox BGA Filth-Hating Elitist

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    Good question, shasta7. It certainly might have been them, but that would suggest the possibility that they actually believe their own lies. :) My gut tells me they are way smarter than that, just crooked.
     
  39. shinobi1

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    My point was more about time . . . the passage of time.

    Whatever the CQ56 is worth today, it will be worth less this coming fall. By then it might make more sense just to upgrade the darn thing to dual core . . . if possible.

    I did a small amount of shopping. Went to Staples, BB, and to Wal-Mart this past week. Was only able to find a CQ56 at BB. If they ever sold it to begin with, the CQ56 is no longer being sold at the other stores. Probably should also have checked the Shack. Not sure they would bother with something so "low end", though.

    Anyway, I can't live with a single core. So something will have to be done.

    One last thing:

    The unit I saw at BB was on and running. I felt it top and bottom, checking for heat. Not bad. Now of course it was just sitting there doing nothing. With a game running the outcome might have been completely different.
     
  40. Wolfman-Iraq

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    You know, with Best Buy having the same computer (CQ56-115dx) in stock, wouldn't it just make sense for HP/Milberg to issue store vouchers, instead of making everyone wait an additional 10-14 weeks?
     
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    that would make too much sense ;)
     
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    I just watched a short 1080p video off of youtube on it. The asus has the eee super hyper engine(not joking, thats what they call it) witch controls the cpu output. At first i watched the video on high performance and it was choppy, them i watched it on super performance and it ok(a little choppy but not that noticable). The video did take a long time to load though so i won't be watching too much HD on it.
     
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    Did anyone who submitted a HP repair reimbursement claim get anything back? I sent one in but never heard a thing back? It was sent in March.
     
  44. eccentriceric

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    go back a page someone just got a ASUS netbook as the current discussion is about.
     
  45. ronk

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    It would really be great if someone who has gotten their replacement could go to:
    PassMark PerformanceTest - PC benchmark software
    and download and run the Passmark Benchmark test. Below are the scores I got on my HP TX1220US Tablet (TL-64). This would give those of us who haven't sent ours in yet a way to see how the replacements compare. The nice thing about the Passmark test is that it tests many functions and can be helpful in deciding which of the replacements is better for your needs.

    ===========HP TX1220US ================
    CPU - Integer Math 246.0
    CPU - Floating Point Math 713.2
    CPU - Find Prime Numbers 230.1
    CPU - SSE 6.4
    CPU - Compression 1398.3
    CPU - Encryption 6.2
    CPU - Physics 64.7
    CPU - String Sorting 865.4
    Graphics 2D - Solid Vectors 2.4
    Graphics 2D - Transparent Vectors 2.6
    Graphics 2D - Complex Vectors 89.0
    Graphics 2D - Fonts and Text 64.4
    Graphics 2D - Windows Interface 48.0
    Graphics 2D - Image Filters 96.5
    Graphics 2D - Image Rendering 186.0
    Graphics 3D - Simple 45.3
    Graphics 3D - Medium 9.9
    Graphics 3D - Complex 3.2
    Memory - Allocate Small Block 2471.2
    Memory - Read Cached 1036.4
    Memory - Read Uncached 957.0
    Memory - Write 925.2
    Memory - Large RAM 436.3
    Disk - Sequential Read 29.8
    Disk - Sequential Write 28.2
    Disk - Random Seek + RW 1.9
    CPU Mark 1312.5
    2D Graphics Mark 305.1
    Memory Mark 429.8
    Disk Mark 216.7
    3D Graphics Mark 33.5
    ==================
    PassMark Rating 325.0 <-- Final Score
    ==================

    Note: After running the tests, go to the programs File Menu and you can save as a web document. Then you can cut and paste into a message like I did above.
     
  46. dr.pratik

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    hi all,
    i am in somewhat unique situation,
    actually my cousin.
    he was in usa and that time he bought this affected nvidia based hp pavillion 2700 cto .
    now its 2 yrs out of warrenty and he has dead notebook with him.
    he has shifted to india so luck of any class suite benefits i guess,
    how do i source replacement motherboard for this laptop.
    i managed to take out motherboard and now hunting the replacement motherboard.
    where should i look for it?
     
  47. eccentriceric

    eccentriceric Notebook Geek

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    There is no replacement motherboard that's not defective. that's why replacement computers are sent out. It's a bad design on the motherboard plus the faulty chips.
     
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    is there a good forum dedicated to stuff like the copper mod and other extreme
    cooling modifications?
    i'm thinking remove the keyboard entirely and replace with a large copper sheet welded to the heatsink and a small external blower pushing some air
    thru tubes pointed above and below the gpu and thru the heat pipes.
     
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    Here is one of many you tube videos of the repair.

    YouTube - HP DV9000 blank screen fix! Video problem BGA rework
     
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    Wolfman-Iraq Notebook Geek

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