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    Lenovo IdeaPad Y410P Owners and Information thread

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by jedolley, Jun 10, 2013.

  1. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    If you're doing CAD get a PC with a Nvidia Quadro, not a Nvidia Geforce. I recommend the thinkpad W530:

    https://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/w-series/w530/
     
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    Thank you, although I'm still not clear on some particulars. Do I need to use the command prompt to change it to MBR? Or is GPT still ok for Windows 7 (64 bit). I'm pretty sure that is correct. Also, I did manage to get it installed one time but it did not recognize the SSD cache. Do I need to format it as well?
     
  3. Kenstang

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    Thank you, although I'm still not clear on some particulars. Do I need to use the command prompt to change it to MBR? Or is GPT still ok for Windows 7 (64 bit). I'm pretty sure that is correct. Also, I did manage to get it installed one time but it did not recognize the SSD cache. Do I need to format it as well? I also had some problems with drivers. My WIFI didn't work or worked sporadically and I could not get the FN key shortcuts for brightness etc to work.
     
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    i've got a couple of questions about the y410p
    1. Can you get another 750m and go sli with it?
    2. Will you still have the option of going integrated whilst the second card is installed?
    3. How long will the battery last whilst running sli and under stress (playing a game)?
    4. I hear that the laptop went towards the m.2 standard for the ssd, where can i find an ssd (about 120gb) to have my OS on it while keeping the 1TB hdd for games and storage?
    5. Does the SSD cache laptops also come in m.2 standard?
    6. How hot does it get while playing games on max settings? With sli?
    7. Does anyone know the hard facts about the release date of the Gigabyte P34G, im still on an edge between this laptop (y410p sli) and the P34G? Price for the 760m 1080p screen edition?
    Thanks for your time, have to leave for college in about a month and i really would like a laptop with a graphics card setup that will be about as good as the 770m (750m sli according to Game-Debate)
    Nvidia GeForce GT 750M SLI compare Nvidia GeForce GTX 770M GPU
     
  6. Jobine

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    1. Yes, but the cards will only be availible in August
    2. No
    3. 3 hours max, id say 2 hours of games
    4. NGFF, and im not sure, i looked on amazon and i couldnt find any, try calling lenovo
    5. Y410p/y510p laptops use m.2 (NGFF), while Y400/y500 laptops use Msata
    6. Warm, but the side vent area gets hot
    7. Nope, sorry
     
  7. Kenstang

    Kenstang Notebook Consultant

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    You seem very knowledgeable about this laptop, would you mind if I asked you a couple of questions? When the 750m sli card comes out in August, will I have to get the 170W power adapter too or will I be able to use the card with the power adapter that came with the laptop? Also, I have been back and forth between laptops, namely the Thinkpad and the Y series. I just saw that they announced a new T440s (which is basically the T431s shell, but will Haswell), and they are also adding an IPS display with 1080p and touch to that laptop. Now I'm all messed up because of that....Considering that the T440 may be this very same Y410p, only with the better build and roll cage, although I highly doubt they would put a GT series card in it. But then again, I could be wrong. Based on your experience, do you think that the Y410p can be kept and used as my workhorse laptop, or would I be better served to return it and go for the Haswell Thinkpad Ultrabook coming out soon, or the T440 variant as far as performance. I know I would lose some gaming potential, but the HD5000 that is supposed to be in that Thinkpad and the prospect of a dedicated GPU makes it intriguing. I'm so off balance now..and don't know if I should return the laptop now or not....

    Don't get me wrong. I love this laptop. My only gripes are the glossy screen and the trackpad. Also, I do not feel this would survive a drop. But I do believe this machine is of very high quality and the performance of the processor is unmatched for the price. I got this laptop for $850 with tax from Lenovo with the 1600x900 and cache drive. If I were to do a Thinkpad with Haswell, I can imagine the price would be ridiculous which is also another possible deterrent. It'd probably be in the $1500 range and I just wouldn't be willing to pay that. Yours, or anybody's thoughts would be appreciated. I just want high performance and good build quality, that puts me in between a Thinkpad and a Y-Series :(
     
  8. Jobine

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    1. You will probably have to get the 170W adapter
    2. T440s will likely be a LOT more expensive (IPS+1080p+rollcage+touch isnt free) and will probably feature some Integrated graphics or a Nvidia Quadro, both are bad for gaming.
    3. HD 5200 = 650m in terms of compute power, but in terms of video games, its only 40% as good as a 650m, and the 750m is essentially a 660m.
    4. You answered your own question, and yes, the thinkpad will probably be $1500, probably more if you want IPS+rollcage+touch+1080p
    5. The thinkpad will however have an optional 9-cell, which can give you up to 10 hours of battery life
    6. The thinkpad will most likely be a dual core. Only thinkpad W's are quad-cores. Also, thinkpad Ts series have ULV processors, which improves battery life but lowers CPU power.
     
  9. Jobine

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    Because i own one?
     
  10. Kenstang

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    I was not aware that the SLI card for the Y410p is available. Are they selling them now? I have not been able to find it on the website.
     
  11. ultimaniumx

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    Hi guys, I picked up my Lenovo this weekend and thought I would share the time frame for when it will arrive. Of course, your mileage may vary depending on where you live and what the circumstances are of your order.

    Ordered Laptop on June 26th, 2013. Shipped via UPS. READ FROM BOTTOM TO TOP. (That's how it was on the tracking website)

    Location...............................Date................. Local Time | Activity
    Winnipeg, MB, Canada............. 07/13/2013 3:02 P.M. Delivered - picked up at retail location
    Winnipeg, MB, Canada............. 07/12/2013 5:42 P.M. Delivered to UPS Retail Location
    .............................................. 07/12/2013 5:42 P.M. Your shipment is ready for pickup at a retail location
    .............................................. 07/12/2013 7:35 A.M. Import Scan
    .............................................. 07/12/2013 7:15 A.M. Arrival Scan
    Minneapolis, MN, United States 07/12/2013 5:56 A.M. Departure Scan
    .............................................. 07/12/2013 5:56 A.M. Departure Scan
    .............................................. 07/12/2013 5:21 A.M. Arrival Scan
    .............................................. 07/12/2013 5:18 A.M. Arrival Scan
    Louisville, KY, United States.... 07/12/2013 4:36 A.M. Departure Scan
    Louisville, KY, United States.... 07/11/2013 1:55 A.M. Arrival Scan
    Anchorage, AK, United States.. 07/10/2013 3:57 P.M. Departure Scan
    ............................................. 07/10/2013 2:00 P.M. Arrival Scan
    Shanghai, China ..................... 07/10/2013 9:11 P.M. Departure Scan
    Shanghai, China ..................... 07/09/2013 8:57 P.M. Export Scan
    .............................................. 07/09/2013 8:57 P.M. Origin Scan
    China....................................... 07/08/2013 11:07 P.M. Order Processed: Ready for UPS

    Notes:

    1. On the website before confirming my order, the preliminary shipping date they had was July 7th, 2013.
    2. July 1st, 2013 was Canada Day.
    3.This laptop shipped from China, even though I thought they shipped from the US or Ontario.
    4. Sorry for formatting, I suck with forum threads.
     
  12. Jobine

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    Called lenovo yesterday, cards should be availible in august.
     
  13. aintz

    aintz Notebook Evangelist

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    hey 410p owners, does this model have overheating/throttle issues when gaming like older models? looking to pickup a 14inch laptop that can handle non stressful games like dota2 and getting rid of my desktop.
     
  14. Tknoeny

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    I just received my laptop last week and while playing Mirrors Edge the space where I rest my left palm gets extremely hot and the game began to lag intensely. Is this all the y410's or is mine malfunctioning. Playing games like LOL cause it to heat up but not as much and it doesn't cause any problems with running the game.
     
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    Were you using a laptop cooling pad?
     
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    What backpacks are you guys using? Thinking of getting an Everki backpack
     
  17. raptir

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    How long were you playing? I played Just Cause 2 for about an hour and the palm rest did not get warm at all. I was just using a lapdesk (solid surface for air flow but no fans).
     
  18. He1p

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    can you sli on y410p ?
     
  19. rbro526

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    Please read through some of the thread.

    Sent from my Optimus G using Tapatalk 4 Beta
     
  20. Tknoeny

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    I was playing without a cooling pad, although I do have the laptop elevated. Play time was no longer than 30 minutes before it was unplayable. I was playing on full resolution with high settings, could that perhaps be the reason? I thought this laptop could handle such a workload, I'm just trying to figure out if this is universal or if I should send this laptop back for a replacement.
     
  21. Kenstang

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    Guys, please help with making a decision on this. I need a reliable laptop for college, I have a Y410p right now but I am thinking about returning it. The performance is nice, but I worry about the build quality/durability, plus it eats battery as you can imagine and the glossy screen can be bothersome depending on the lighting and is almost unusable in certain circumstances outdoors.

    I was thinking of waiting for the T440s to release, because I am sold on the IPS screen with either the 1600x900 or FHD and the performance sounds decent too. But I am worried about when this notebook will be released since nothing is announced officially and school will start soon. Should I continue to wait for the new T440s or just jump on the T431s? The other thing I wonder is I have no idea what the cost is going to be for the T440s, and perhaps I can haggle on the T431s by being aware of its soon to be replacement. Anyone's thoughts would be appreciated.

    As for my usage, it will be web browsing, working with MS Office and some programming. I initially got the Y410p because I wanted to game as well, but it seems I wouldn't be doing it much in reality and could just use an XBOX or something for that. Although, I do love the performance, from a technical standpoint, of the Y410p as it is nicely spec. Because I've had problems in the past, I have been working with someone in customer service who told me I can order anything I want with any discounts that I can haggle from sales, and that after that I would be given an additional 10% off on top of it after it shipped, or I could order from the outlet site and get a flat 35% off. As you can see I am in quite a decision pickle....

    So my choices are keep the y410p, bought new for $721.18 with the discounts, it has i7 4700mq, 8GB RAM, tTB 5400 RPM + 24GB NGFF, Nvidia GT750M
    Buy a T431s, I got a price of $755.10 for the base with the i5 3337U, 4GB RAM, 500GB 7200 RPM, HD4000 integrated graphics, probably upgrade to SSD after I bought it, like a Samsung 840 Pro.
    Wait for T440s, or find a T430s or something like that off of the outlet and use a 35% in addition to outlet price, I have found most of these to be in the i7 3520M, with 4 - 8 GB RAM, 500 GB HDD to come out around $500-$750 refurbished.
     
  22. Nexuz

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    Buyer beware! If you are a Canadian customer, be aware that this laptop ships with a bilingual keyboard not the standard US English you see on the Lenovo US site. On the Lenovo CA site, it does not specify the keyboard layout the laptop comes with. After recieving my laptop, I had to call post-sales department and have it sent back to their warranty center in North Bay, Ontario for a keyboard swap. I also had a talk with sales and they said that all ideapads in Canada comes in bilingual keyboard layout and is not an option to have it changed to standard US English. The only option is to place an order in the US and have it shipped to a US address if you want US English layout. Or you can do what I did and send it back under warranty to have the keyboard swapped at their warranty center.
     
  23. Nexuz

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    This laptop is a gaming powerhouse. But like you said, if you dont need it for the games, then get something from the thinkpad line. I believe most of the T series comes with Intel graphics which for your case is more than enough and battery life should be much better as well since you dont have the 750m gpu.
     
  24. aintz

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    thats pretty retarded. guess i wont be getting one because of the big hassle.
     
  25. Jobine

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    I can confirm this is true since im Canadian and i recieved mine with a blinigual keyboard.

    If you are Canadian and you want the US english layout over the Canadian Multilingual Standard, try buying one off Newegg or XoticPC/Use your warranty.
     
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    Anyone play around with the Envy 15 screen, I heard the y410p was kinda washed out I want to compare there washed out ness .
     
  27. Nexuz

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    I can confirm the viewing angles are not great on the Y410p so that may contribute to the washed-outness.
     
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    Hi Nexuz, how long did it take for you to send it back to Lenovo's warranty center and receive it again with the US keyboard layout? Where are you located?
     
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    Hi, so I'm strongly considering the y410p but I'm a little concerned about the track-pad. Is it really that bad? Also, to you owners out there, do you find the bezel to be that wide and bothersome?
     
  30. Nexuz

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    I am located in Toronto, Ontario. I spoke with them on July 16 2013. They are sending me a return box which they said will take 3 business days. Then the repairs and stuff will take 9 business days. So I am expecting 2-3 weeks which sucks!
     
  31. Kenstang

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    I do not think the trackpad is bad at all. I have definitely used worse. I would say it is average. Some people prefer some type of texture or the ability to click a dedicated button. I actually find that I never use dedicated buttons and actually just gently tap to click instead of depressing the whole button down. I even did this on my previous Thinkpads. It will come down to more of your personal preference, but I would say the machine is very nice. I will be returning mine likely, in that I will not be gaming as much as I had hoped and my work requires me to have something a little less flashy lol.
     
  32. Kenstang

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    Some people are bothered by the bezel and others are not, go to ebay and type "kh carbon, y500". They make a really nice laptop protector that gives it a carbon fiber look and is soft to the touch. I had this on my previous Y500. They make a version of it for the Y400 as well (Y400 and Y410p are same exterior so it will fit), although to buy the Y400 one you have to go to Alibaba.com instead of ebay, but it is the same manufacturer that makes it. It looks really good and is high quality. The reason I bring it up is because if you feel that you would be distracted by the gloss, the kit has carbon fiber applique that fits around the bezel, as well as the lid and keyboard cover.

    Here is the link: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-KH...998?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item564a9e2a76

    Makes the laptop look really awesome, I have loved it, just picture it on the smaller Y410p.
     
  33. gijoe92

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    Anyone know how many monitors this thing can support via the HDMI port?
     
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    Can anyone tell me how the wireless connectivity is and some info on battery life? I wanna know if it would be okay to get for college. Thanks!
     
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    I'm not sure whether my question posted the first time so ill just ask again to make sure. Does anyone know how the wireless connectivity is and some info on the battery life? I want to know if this laptop would be good to take to college. Thanks!
     
  36. Jobine

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    I managed to get 2:30 with 60% battery life and the Intel GPU doing light tasks at mid brightness. This is with Power Saver mode on and the computer cleaned of bloatware.

    Connectivity, meh. The 2230 isnt superb, and sometimes has issues if you are using the updated 15.8 drivers, but so far i haven't had any major problems with the 15.6 drivers.

    Heck, im going to college next year, so im wondering the same thing :p
     
  37. Jobine

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    I believe it is 2-3, but remember, you have VGA+HDMI.
     
  38. coachkevin

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    Three questions for you guys.

    1. Have the issues been ironed out getting Windows 7 working on the y410p?

    2. How do I go about reinstalling Windows 8 if I install a SSD?

    3. Any solution for the intermittent wireless issues? Just started popping up for me today.

    Thanks!
     
  39. laserbullet

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    Looking forward to getting my y410p in 1-3 days. I've skimmed the thread, and here are a some things I'm still curious about:
    1. I see people saying the WLAN card isn't very good, what would the advantages and disadvantages of replacing it be?
    2. Does the laptop do WiDi?
    3. Is there any information on when compatible M.2 SSDs will be release?
    4. I'm considering getting a Blu Ray drive down the road. Will this be an easy upgrade?
    5. I've never owned a laptop without external mouse buttons, how do you right click on the y410p?
    6. Is it worth doing a clean install of Windows 8? Or is the bloatware easy to remove? Is there a complete list of the bloatware somewhere?

    Thanks!
     
  40. alexoz

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    Hey!
    I was a derp and got some orange juice under a few of my keyboard keys, consequently, they don't work as well any more. Does anyone know if the keys can be removed individually without breaking them, or how to remove the whole keyboard if this is not possible?

    Thanks, if you take the time to read this,
    -Alex
     
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    Joined this forum just to post on this page. I ordered my Y410p on 7/10 and received it on 7/18, despite Lenovo changing the expected arrival date from the 17th, to the 29th, back to the 19th.

    First I will point out some of the obvious negatives.

    - The WiFi was an issue the moment I took it out the box. The WiFi was incredibly slow and it would disconnect every 2-3 minutes, then reconnect again. This led to major frustration just trying to download Chrome and Firefox. After updating drivers and still having the same issue, I read in this forum that this issue may fix itself with time. So as a benchmark, yesterday, the laptop could not load more than 2 seconds of a YouTube video. This morning, I turn it on and now pages open much faster and YouTube videos load all the way. However, download speed is still slow and I am hoping it will continue to improve with time.

    - Battery use is not that great. Sure, this has been said on this discussion numerous times, but I remained hopeful. From a 75% charge to 0% took about an hour to an hour and a half. This is using browsers and downloading applications, as well as deleting with PC Decrapifier. I have no knowledge of how this battery will last while in class, for I am also using it for college this upcoming semester.

    - The keyboard and mousepad area, and the area around it, are finger print prone. With my right palm sitting to the right of the mousepad while typing this, it will leave a palm print on the plastic. However, the keyboard is made so that a baby wipe can very easily wipe the entire thing, due to the keys being nicely spaced and not crammed together, trapping any crumbs inside.

    - It's a tad bit heavier than I expected. You'll definitely feel it in your backpack. Doesn't feel flimsy though.

    And the pros:

    - The backlit keyboard is gorgeous. As a student, this will be very helpful at night when my roommate is asleep and I need to an essay or simply browse the web. Typing in complete dark is very easy, and the lights get Oohs and Ahhs from everyone. Typing on it does make my fingers feel a bit stiff, but I will get used to it. Keyboard gets a 8/10

    - The computer looks sleek. The back lid looks nice with its carbon fiber finish, but it's kinda disappointing that the plastic around the keyboard isnt the same finish. Would fix the fingerprint problem.

    - It's very fast. With dozens of tabs open, I can still do other tasks on it with no lag.

    - The heat is nonexistent when browsing. Further information will be provided when I begin gaming.
     
  42. Jobine

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    1. If you are having wifi issues, go to device manager, then find your card, open properties, advanced, then change the 802.11n channel to "auto". This will increase Wifi speed and lower connection problems.

    2. To make the battery last longer, try using power saver mode, and set your laptop to only use the intel GPU. Because of this, mine can last up to 5 hours of typing/browsing with mid brightness. Also, by default, the Laptop will only charge itself to 60%, make sure to open Lenovo power management and put it to "Maximum Battery Life". Unless you were doing an intense game, i find it hard that you only had 1.5 hours of battery.

    3. Its a bit heavy, but still lighter than my old inspiron.
     
  43. gijoe92

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    Not sure how you're getting to 5 hours... I'm just barely going on over an hour and have already lost 40% with just light browsing.
     
  44. memorbilia

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    Can anybody help me on my Wifi issue?
    "1. If you are having wifi issues, go to device manager, then find your card, open properties, advanced, then change the 802.11n channel to "auto". This will increase Wifi speed and lower connection problems."

    This didn't work :/
     
  45. Jobine

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    1. What brightness?
    2. Are you using SLI, single GPU, and are you using the intel GPU?
    3. By default the battery charges itself to 60% to extend battery health, make sure you get a 100% charge
     
  46. Jobine

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    Try uninstalling Intel PROset.
    Then disable bluetooth (in the Metro PC settings)

    If that doesnt work, try uninstalling the Intel drivers and reboot the computer until the PC uses the 14.8 drivers by microsoft.
     
  47. gijoe92

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    1. Half or below.
    2. Single GPU (intel).
    3. I was at 100%, but regardless of where it started, it dropped 40% in an hour.
     
  48. Jobine

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    Defective battery?
     
  49. sinfiery

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    Hey, a question


    I can get a Y410 with the 14.0" 1366x768 screen, 750M GPU, and 3630QM. It also has only the stock HDD for $600 on craigslist, used. About 2 months old.

    If everything is working well, is this a deal worth the risk?


    Also, I have a 2.5' 64GB SSD I would like to use in addition to the HDD that comes with it. Is it possible to fit in both the original HDD and the 2.5' SSD?


    Thanks!
     
  50. Jason335

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    Nope. That's NOT a Y410P. That's a Y400P, and might have a GT650M instead.
     
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