Lenovo IdeaPad Y410P Owners and Information thread

Well the issue is I can't really decide which one is more important to me hence the dilemma due to the performance vs display tradeoff. I'm also concerned about the higher resolution being more difficult to drive natively (and whatever tradeoffs that might come with gaming lower than native) which is why I decided against the larger 1920x1080p y510p for the moment.

Actually at the moment I have the y410p ordered. Since the concerns I have with it (compared to the Acer) are harder to quantify subjective qualities (mainly display and then somewhat build quality, finicky wifi, size/portability, bezel size, maybe screen too small and go with the 510p) I thought I'd just see it first hand.

 

what did you use to drill the holes and file the corners? That's exactly what I'm going to need to do with mine.

 

Well, I simply used the regular drill tip (small ones), and twist it using my hands. For fine tuning, I used a small tip flat-head screwdriver. I compared all the holes side by side with the original DVD drive and enlarged the holes that I needed (particularly for the long vertical tip on the rightmost and the 2nd from the right vertical tip). Also, take caution for the indentation of the pin hole (the one that you needed to push to force the DVD tray out). That one needs to be enlarged AND you need to file the metal plate below that hole. That took me a while. Just look at your faceplate, there is some sort of extra plastic pillar right bellow the pin hole.

For the L-shaped plastic part, I think you need to realign it. Just make sure that the holes are appropiate, both the ones on the left and back. Mine is not aligned the first time I tried, and it caused a significant stress on that plastic part. Then I tried to reshape some of the metallic plates, especially near the corner. I used a large flat-head screwdriver to reshape it. You can actually use a cutter to trim the excess metal plates.

It is a lot of work to make it look nice. Again, it's a universal caddy..... But in the end, I'm pretty satified with the results. Just remember NOT to make modification to your faceplate. One of these days you might want to use it again with your original drive..... Good luck.

 

any way you could explain a couple things a little further? Like could you take a picture of some of the key areas that you had to tweak on the caddy? Like the pin hole where you enlarged and filed, and what did you use to file that metal down anyways?
Also, not sure what you mean by the L-shaped plastic part and how you "realigned" it. By metallic plates, do you mean the 8 metal clamps on the front of the caddy that hold it together? Thanks for all your help man! Really appreciate it.

 

Rumor has it, if you call Lenovo and order by phone, they will let you customize your order, basically allowing you to add in a Wireless-AC card, a 4702MQ CPU (which generates maybe 60-70% of the heat while gaming) and the choice between glossy and matte.

Well, bummers.

 

Shoot, that Wireless-AC card would have been nice but l I'm pretty sure the 4702 is just an underclocked 4700.

 

It's an undervolted 4700. Which not only means it is underclocked by 0.2ghz (5% performance loss), but it has a TDP of only 36W compared to 47W for the 4700MQ. Consequently, it produces much less heat and improves battery life.

 

This worked. Big props man.

Didn't have a chance to try it out until just now.

 

This laptop has good build quality, it's the drivers that are poor...

 

Hello everyone,

I got my IdeaPad Y410p 59369921 and having a hard time installing Ubuntu 12.04 on it. I am using a USB boot. Not trying to do anything fancy with the hard drive partition (will allocate around 70 GB for Ubuntu and keep Windows 8).

I changed the necessary BIOS parameters to avoid UEFI problems; however, when I try to install or (simply Try Ubuntu), the screen is dark. It is not a black screen, where one cannot see anything, rather it is seems that "color control" is off. If I use a flashlight on my screen (I know, this is hilarious ), I see the menu and everything. My suspicion lies with the graphic card.

Has anyone experienced the same problem and found the solution? I will try to install 13.04 now and see how it goes.

 

Finally, installed 12.04.3! The problem with the screen was resolved. For some reason, when using a USB Boot, Ubuntu dims the screen to the lowest setting. Thus, all I had to do was to increase the brightness (Fn + Up key). However, the real problem started when after installing Ubuntu, I saw another black screen (a legitimate black screen). The culprit in this case were the drivers for nVidia. I seached the forums back and forth, and finally stumbled upon a solution on AskUbuntu. I will include the link in case some poor souls will encounter a similar problem as I did :thumbsup:

installation - My computer boots to a black screen, what options do I have to fix it? - Ask Ubuntu

 

I had the same problem installing Debian on my desktop. Usually, it is because Nvidia does not play nice with Nouveau.

 

I posted this in another thread, but I'll repost it here just in case.

I tried to disassemble mine, but I'm deathly afraid of screwing something up.
I've done this plenty of times to do things like replace ram, service hard drive, and all that to various other laptops. But this thing feels VERY stiff.
I got to the point in the other guide where:

I did check that I got all the screws out, and it still feels kinda pried in there.
So, my big request is...can any of you upload a video of you taking apart the bottom piece out? My SSD is just screaming to get in there, but I do not want to risk damaging anything.
You don't have to use Youtube. Just puush a video is fine.
Thank you SO much in advance.

 

To be honest, I cracked one of the pin on the left side. Lenovo somehow thought that it is a good idea to put that much hooks all over the surface. I can't give you the easy way. All I can tell is try to pry the back part (near the hinge) and the grills first.

 

The L-shaped plastic is the one that is screwed to the original DVD drive. It's the one that serves as the hook mechanism of the ultrabay. You need to move that part to your HDD caddy. As for the metallic plates, it's the one that's covering the body of your caddy. Sorry for the confusion. I'm not that good at explaining the anatomy .

Unfortunately, I can't take a picture of the finished product. It's already secured inside my notebook..... and I don't plan to remove it anytime soon..... But I took some images from the net and will try to explain it to you:




The red arrows are pointing to the corner areas that I pushed forward a little bit using the flat-head screws, so it will be more angular (near 90 degrees). Initially it's a bit rounded and caused a misfit with that L-shaped plastic part.
The green marking is the part that filed a little bit, because it's slightly protruded and caused that L-shaped plastic part to misalign.
The yellow marking area is the part that I need to hammer a bit, because if I don't, it will be quite hard to push the caddy into the bay.
The white arrows are pointing to the holes that I need to enlarge using the drill tip. Just enlarge it enough so the hooks from the faceplate can enter it. If necessary, try to add more depth into it.
The blue arrow is pointing to that notorious hole that you need to enlarge a lot, and file the metallic plate below it.

I hope that can help you. It's really hard to explain what I already did lol.

 

oh god
OH GOD
Now I KNOW I won't do it without an instructional video.
I thank you for your anecdote. It's a nice piece of admonition for anyone else attempting this.

 

Perfect man! Your caddy is a little different than mine but it was basically the same compatibility problems. Thanks a bunch!
How does the faceplate fit in your caddy? Loose at all? Mine's pretty snug but clearly not as nice a fit as it is on the DVD drive.

 

I had to apply quite a bit of force to pop it off. I'm honestly surprised I didn't break anything on the hinges closest to the front of the laptop. I could make a video soon though. Pretty busy today and tomorrow though =\

What SSD are you replacing the HDD with and what are you going to use to clone everything?

 

Mine attached pretty nicely after I shave that blue arrow part. It is held in place by the two hooks on the leftmost and rightmost. A little bit angulated, but acceptable compared to before I made the modifications

I did it with the video instruction for Y500. It is similar. But in that video, it looked awfully EASY. I've never been so wrong..... Mine pops out easily now after I cracked that one particular hook . If you really want to proceed, just be carefull with the hooks around the DVD drive.....

 

Is it just me or the Y410p's battery discharges by itself when the laptop is sleeping/turned off? I woke up this morning and got to school to find my % at around 85%, when it was 100% when I went to sleep...

I will need to test further as I only got it yesterday.

 

Lol i cracked a pin too. And i'm generally experienced with opening laptops. So yeah, beware

 

Mine drains 3-5% a day. Be sure to turn OFF the powered USB port. That helps.

Also, when the laptop boots up, it goes on max brightness+cpu load, so that can always drain the battery a little.

 

Lenovo Y410P Removable Graphics GN35 GT750M + 170w ac adapter

._.

 

Wasn't the old GT650M ultrabay for the y400 only $300 with the 170w ac adapter? This one's $380.

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I dont know if this is a 750 or 650m. But it looks like a 750, since it says "NOT FOR Y400". As for the 170W AC adapter, it is a generic Lenovo adapter that works with most Modern Lenovo Laptops. Look for yourself, the site clearly has two models, one for Y400 and one for Y410p:

http://www.mini-laptop-accessories....le-graphics-gn35-170w-ac-adapter-p-24649.html

http://www.mini-laptop-accessories....hics-gn35-gt750m-170w-ac-adapter-p-28713.html

I wonder if these guys have a good return policy, and if anyone wants to guinea-pig and buy it, and possibly confirm it's a 750.

 

Even after all of the customizing and fixing driver issues, I'm thinking about returning my y410p and going with something a bit more portable (13" ultrabook). Any idea what Lenovo's return policy will be? If they stick me with a restocking fee I'll try my chances on eBay...

 

Try seeing if you can trade it in for a Lenovo giftcard and get the Thinkpad Yoga

 

Your effort is appreciated!

I'm using a Corsair 60GB SATA III Force Series. I plan to make a clean reinstall. Most of my junk will be stored in the caddy drive, which contains the 1TB drive that the laptop came with.

 

I *personally* recommend caddy-ing the SSD, but if you are gonna open your laptop, be careful to not break pegs.

 

@jobine702 that mini-laptop-accessories.com site just seems to be some Chinese accessory store that run a few other laptop battery stores. If you Google their website or email (it's a gmail address) you can find a lot of complaints about them and it seems pretty fishy, especially when their store domain name was registered with whois privacy (what could they possibly have to hide?) There is no way you can be sure that it is what it claims it is without a better picture of the item.

I would just wait until an authorized Lenovo distributer can get you one.

 

Yea, i did some research and GN35 is actually a 650M. Guess ill just wait. If you need batteries, Lenovo sells them cheaper on their own site. Also, upgrading the 48w/h battery in your Y410p to a beefy 72w/h one on the Lenovo website is something i might consider in the future, after this battery reaches the end of it's useful life, that is.

 

That's what I've been experiencing lately. If I leave the battery inside the laptop, it will discharge. Yours is like mine, around 15% per night. But if you remove the battery from the laptop, it will stay 100%. I'm now following this issue on Lenovo's website

Battery drain when powered down Y410P - Lenovo Community

 

Hello everyone! I recently ordered a y410p with 900p display and 24GB SSD. I've been lurking for a week or so, but now that I see it's finally shipped I'd like to ask a few questions and make sure I have my ducks in a row for when it arrives next week.

Little background info. I'm decently tech-savvy, but relatively inexperienced when it comes to laptops and especially high performance laptops. I'll be plugged in 80% of the time, but will bring the laptop with me to class a few days a week where I will be using it for ~4 hours at a time. As far as games I'll mostly be playing CS:GO, SMNC, or something similar.

What are some of the first things I should be doing when I first boot up?
I've read to first set the preferred graphics processor to integrated graphics. Will this still enable the Nvidia card when I start a game or will I need to manually change it again?

Next I will set the computer to power saved mode to underclock the CPU. Also I understand the computer has a good amount of bloatware that needs to be removed. What program to you all prefer for this purpose or any other programs that are useful?
I've also read about defragging being worthwhile right away, what program is best for this?

FInally, this is more directed at jobine702. I'd like to do a very minor overclock like you did. What program do you prefer to overclock with and also what do you use to monitor temps?

I apologize for all the questions, but I'd like to be prepared when my order arrives and also ensure I get the most out of it. I appreciate any help provided. Thanks again!

 

I prefer using CC cleaner to uninstall bloatware. Do that and begin uninstalling first. You can get rid of McAffee now, but especially ALL ProSet Wireless programs, then uninstall the wireless card driver in the device manager, restart 2 times so that Win8 installs the older and more reliable drivers (Jobine made a post about this if you search through liked posts). On the second restart, you can make sure Windows Defender is up and running, update it, Do all of the windows updates that are of high importance. Then get rid of whatever other less vital bloatware you want, almost none of the lenovo ones are necessary (YouCam, OneKey, etc.)

Then - I found this to be a huge help - uninstall the preloaded TouchPad driver - then go to the Synaptics Website and install their driver: http://www.synaptics.com/resources/drivers It helped make the touchpad a lot easier to use. I'd turn off most of the multitouch gestures like zooming. 2 finger scroll works well so leave that if you want. Again, customize it to your liking, take time to test things out.

As far as graphics, I leave it on (Choose which one is best), it should work fine. Power saver mode automatically underclocks you to 0.77 GHz, I've managed 4+ hours on battery by lowering screen brightness to half in power saver mode, just remember to go into power saver mode advanced settings and change the settings for wireless adapter power saving. If you leave it on maximum power save it will sometimes randomly cut out. You can also open up the Integrated HD control panel (right click desktop) and deactivate the power saving feature that autodims your screen randomly, that pissed me off. I posted how to do that a few pages back, so either search my posts or look through liked posts by clicking at the top of the thread.

For defragging, just type defrag into the start screen, windows utility is efficient.

Also since you'll be plugged in 80% of the time, open Lenovo Energy Management and set your battery to optimized health, sets your battery to max charge to 60% which extends battery life. You can do a full charge before you head to class by flipping it back to Max Charge.

Jobine can help you with the rest, I didn't bother with any overclocking.

 

Won't the caddy cause SOME kind of loss in write/read speed? If I'm going to store my SSD there, I would prefer to have optimal speed.

 

Is this laptop generate much heat?
I'm considering to buy this laptop but unfortunately I'm still doubting this laptop has a great build quality.

 

The heat is fine. Max I've experienced is 80ish, but it throttles at around 75ish under heavy games.
I got this thing in July, and it works freaking amazing.
But just a few days ago, I had a driver issue that whenever I went into wifi, I got a BSOD. I tried System Restore, and now it won't even go into the login screen (it got to the BIOS, though). Now I already have to do a clean reinstall. But since none of the Linux live CDs work (thanks a lot, Nvidia) I'll have to backup the HDD externally. And here I am, waiting desperately for one of the bros here to post an instructional video on how to pry open the y410p. Also, my SSD just arrived, and I want to test it out.

There's my whole experience with this. What the hell is up with modern laptop designs? An old Thinkpad T60 that I had still works today.

 

Another possible solution for the whole WiFi driver issue. As soon as I got this laptop yesterday afternoon I just cleared Windows 8 off (took an image first so I could return it to stock some day) and installed Windows 7. The night before I went and got all the newest drivers from direct from the original vendor's websites, except for a couple like the webcam and card reader. Intel has a newer WiFi driver on their website: v16.1.1, which probably is better than v15 that is on Lenovo's download page and is pre-loaded onto their Windows 8 install. I have not had any issues with v16 so far.

Windows 7 Drivers: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=23045
You will want to download the Wireless_16.1.1_Ds64.exe (assuming you have 64bit Windows, and I seriously hope you do) as it is just the drivers and doesn't include the worthless PROSet software.

Windows 8 Drivers: https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=23044
Same deal as above, use Wireless_16.1.1_De64.exe

Interested to see how that works out for you guys.

 

Yeah, I have the issue with Win7 as well.
But it's really weird. I actually used the Qualcomm driver ever since I Win7'd the laptop. It works just fine this whole time. Why would it crap itself now, after 2 months of use? And how can it affect my whole computer to the point where even the login screen won't show up?

I'll try the Intel drivers after I wiped the HDD. Thanks for the links.

 

What's your idle temperature? I used the System Monitor 2 with CoreTemp, GPU Monitor, and Optimus State Viewer tool to check my temp and NVIDIA status. On idle, my processor reads 55 degrees (!!!) which I think is pretty high. I disabled the TurboBoost by limitting the processor state to 99% in power options, it went down to 51-52 degrees. As for the GPU, the monitor always reads NVIDIA with a temperature of 48 degrees on idle. But no GPU load is detected, since it's not active (confirmed with the Optimus State Viewer tool). I don't think it's normal....... any tips on decreasing it? Did I miss something? Thanks.

 

Correct me if im wrong. but the GPU in this laptop is very closely placed to the CPU, hence the temps.

 

G-guys?...
I REALLY hate to rush things, but...
Is there anyone out there daredevil enough to open their y410p and show us how it's done? ;_;
My next sem is starting soon, and my phone can only do so much.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/ideapad-essential/722702-y410p-detailed-pictures.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmVYvJhlhL8

 

This one might help.....

Lenovo Y400 Y500 Full Disassembly - YouTube

And also this one, the repair manual

http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mobiles_pub/ideapad_y410py510p_hmm.pdf

But again, I cracked one of the hook....

 

Me too. Be careful.

 

Hi Guys!

Y510p has finally arrived to India.
But to my despair the simplest model has 8 gigs,simple 750m and DVD drive.

And it has a pricey 75,000($1150) tag on it.
What do you guys say?Shall I pull the trigger.

Link: http://www.flipkart.com/lenovo-idea...graph/p/itmdz5afhv8jyuuw?pid=COMDZ59FESCW6E46

Edit: It has 2 GB 755m in it and not 750m according to user reviews.Sounds wierd.

 

For 1050$ in the states you can get 8gig 1080p dual :/

755M is just 750M with an overclock. You can always do the overclocking yourself.

Try doing some more research see if you can find a 750M model for a lower price.

 

Haven't realized the strategy of Lenovo in India.
Late releases + Pricey tags.Well they provide the worlds best support for Thinkpads here.

Ya researched a bit to get close to Rs.72k($1100). And talking about states import duty alone costs more than %15 which will cost $1300 to me.

And questions to!
Is Elan touchpad fine with y510?
Any performance difference 750m vs 755m
What about ultrabay graphics and 755m compatibility issues.

 

1. Elan touchpad is fine. Disable unused gestures to reduce jumpiness.
2. 5% performance. Though you can always overclock the 750M, making the 755M irrelevant and a waste of money. That's what i did anyways.
3. UB graphics are not released yet, though i personally don't recommend them, there are better laptops out there if you need something more performant.

 

Thanks for the quick reply!
So the wireless issues still haven't been resolved and it's still necessary to roll back to a previous version?

Are there any other drivers I should update when I first get the computer?