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    Lenovo IdeaPad Y410P Owners and Information thread

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by jedolley, Jun 10, 2013.

  1. Kukri

    Kukri Notebook Consultant

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    I've been using SLi on a y400 for a couple of days now, and haven't come across any power consumption issues with the standard 120W charger.
     
  2. octiceps

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    There's nothing to spoil because it's a "meh" kind of game.

    As long as you're not maxing out the CPU (e.g. Prime95 levels of power consumption) and not running overclocked/overvolted GPU at the same time the 120W charger should just barely cut it. But if you play a really demanding game that uses 100% of GPU and 80-100% of CPU like BF4 it most likely won't be enough.

    I've got both 120W and 170W chargers and I remember testing it out a little earlier in the year when I first got the laptop. Running 650M SLI and everything at stock clocks and voltage the laptop pulled a maximum of just under 120W from the wall running BF3. That number would be higher with a GPU overclock and a game that uses more CPU power.
     
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  3. Kukri

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    Maybe it wont. But I played some bioshock infinite with the CPU on stock behavior, both GPUs overclocked to 1100 mhz and 1.1V. Only problem I saw was when playing in fullscreen instead of windowed mode. I run through 3dmark just fine, scored 4879. WEI is up on all 7.9s except for the CPU now :p.
     
  4. EmberV

    EmberV Notebook Evangelist

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    I've done a bit more research on the whole panel replacement thing and found a drop-in replacement matte AUO panel from the same model series as the glossy one used officially by Lenovo (AUO B140RW02 V0) AUO B140RW02 V2 Overview - Panelook.com Notice same mounting, correct LVDS connector and IT'S MATTE!

    Another potential replacement would be this Chi Mei/Innolux: CHIMEI INNOLUX N140FGE-L31 Overview - Panelook.com

    So you guys with 1366x768 machines could potentially upgrade to 1600x900 matte displays for about $50.

    The displays posted earlier will not work properly as they don't have the right mounting holes.

    Unfortunately, I couldn't find any high color gamut screens that had the correct mounting.

    1920x1080 is NOT possible right now as the only 14" displays being made use eDP connectors. Larger 17.3" panels are available in this resolution with LVDS.
     
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    PepitoTV Newbie

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    Couple questions:

    1.- If I caddy an SSD, can I install Windows 7 on it and make the laptop boot from it?

    2.- When you replace the DVD, can you remove its front panel i order to keep the aesthetics of the laptop?

    Thank you!
     
  6. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    1. Yes

    2. Yes, you can attach the DVD drive's faceplate to the caddy. If you go back a few pages you can see someone has done it and posted pictures about it.
     
  7. Aternus

    Aternus Notebook Enthusiast

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    Repaste for Y410P

    So I repasted my laptop yesterday and been fiddling with it ever since to find out the implications, here are my conclusions so far:

    1. Lower IDLE temp
    2. Longer Turbo Boost times
    3. Very complicated disassembly, very easy assembly
    4. North bridge isn't pasted by default (!)
    5. GDDR isn't pasted by default (!)
    6. The components affect each other greatly because they all share the same heatsink
    7. The default heatsink has alot of factory dirt under the copper elements
    8. Temperature difference on IDLE: 7C
    9. Temperature difference on MAX CPU: 6C
    10. Temperature difference on MAX GPU: None
    11. Temperature difference on NB (MAX CPU): 20C

    The biggest problem we have is finding a way to control the speed of the main fan, it kicks in very late, esp during MAX GPU testing.
    If anybody have suggestions, you're welcome to add :)
     
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  8. Mccaula718

    Mccaula718 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Pasting results look nice. I will do so once my warranty runs out. What paste did you use?
     
  9. draekris

    draekris Notebook Enthusiast

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    I max out at 80C after gaming for a few hours in a 26C room, and it's usually around 75C (GPU and CPU). CPU has a 75mV undervolt.
     
  10. Jobine

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    Wow, those are some good thermals! :D
     
  11. octiceps

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    Good for you, now use ThrotteStop to stop the CPU throttling and watch your temps go through the roof. :D

    Undervolting CPU is the last thing you want to do for reasons of system stability. Just think about how important CPU is to everything you do on the computer, if it starts behaving funny you could experience everything from total system crashing to data loss. GPU is less finicky and important in that respect.
     
  12. msturg29

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    Hello All,

    New to the forum. I am looking at getting a new laptop and have basically 2 devices that I have narrowed down to:

    1) Dell Inspiron 7000 (14") - $819
    -i5-4200u with 6GB RAM
    -1920 x1080 touch display
    -Lack dvd drive
    -~4.7lbs

    2) Lenovo y410p - $769 refurb on ebay or $823 with taxes new
    -i7-4700mq with 8GB RAM, discrete graphics
    1600x900 non-touch display
    -DVD drive
    -~5lbs

    What I want is a good balance of power and battery. The 4200u is not very powerful, but has great battery. The 4700mq is powerful but eats battery. Therefore I ask what everyone is getting for battery with the 410p with discrete turned off (dont play many graphic intense games). I would pick the 410 if I can realistically 4-5 hours per charge. Any thoughts or other suggestions in this price range.

    Thanks,
     
  13. Jason335

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    Search this very thread to find your answer. Mine seems to be getting better with age. It lasted all day data logging at the drag strip last week. Previously it was ~3 hours browsing the Internet. People have had better results disabling Optimus for longer life.

    If you're not going to game then this horsepower is wasted.
     
  14. Jobine

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    I get 4hrs avg on mine. Can't promise that you will. Also you can always upgrade the Y410p to a bigger 72W battery in the future.
     
  15. msturg29

    msturg29 Newbie

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    Jason/Jobine,

    Wow you guys are fast, thanks for the info. So based on searching I am seeing about 4 hours (matches Jobine's). So is this possibly more if I change the setting to only use the intel graphics? Getting a bigger battery is definitely an option.

    So if I dont plan on playing any graphic intense games, but do alot of code compiling and movie conversion would you recommend the 410? Is there anything else anyone would recommend in this price range.

    Thanks again.
     
  16. EmberV

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    If you are doing compiling and movie conversion I would just suggest going with the y410p as you would benefit from more threads from the Core i7 since the Core i5 on the Dell is only dual core and you also get 2GB of RAM extra. For the price, it's a much better deal than the Dell.
     
  17. NaiveBz

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    Hello, i am still considering whether to buy Lenovo IdeaPat y410p, but i have read some of post there is serious problem with wireless connection.. may i know the problem still there? or the new batch laptop have fixed this issues? there is any way to solve it ? will be some preinstalled software has conflict with it ? please let me know ..thanks
     
  18. NRSally

    NRSally Notebook Guru

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    I'd love to hear about the experiences of anyone who replaces their y410p screen. The y410p is great for my needs, but the glare/reflections drive me crazy. There is a related thread here:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/ideapad-essential/731346-replace-y410p-display-matte-ips-fhd-e-g-t440s.html
     
  19. Jobine

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    If you aren't gonna use the GPU I recommend the Lenovo Z510. It has no dgpu but it has a 1080p screen.

    Although you won't be able to upgrade the battery in the long run, but the z510 is thinner, but bigger (similar to y510p)
     
  20. xcvzq

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    Yeah it happened to me too.
     
  21. EmberV

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    Fixed with newer drivers or driver version rollback or BIOS mod + installing a different wireless card.
     
  22. Lafius

    Lafius Notebook Geek

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    i sat the power plant when closing the led to DO NOTHING plugged in, whenever i do that (close the led) the laptop opens random programs. its really weird, anyone?
     
  23. Lafius

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    I'm trying to run BF4 BETA but i keep getting "BF4 BETA has stopped working"
    i read that i should downgrade the Geoforce drivers :
    If you are affected by a Freeze or a Crash upon joining a game, and the error message “BF4 Beta has stopped working” appears, please make sure your Windows is fully updated and your Graphic card is running on its latest driver. Alternatively, some players using GeForce drivers were able to fix this by downgrading their driver to an earlier version.

    what drivers should i downgrade to ?
     
  24. Jobine

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    14.8, 15.10 and 16.1 are known to be stable. 15.6 and 15.8 (which are stock) are known to be problematic.

    Anyways, you should try this one (agreed to the license to start the download):

    https://downloadcenter.intel.com/co...oductProduct=Intel®+Centrino®+Wireless-N+2230

    Another option is just to install the modded bios (pm for link) and then get an aftermarket WiFi, in case you really need Wireless AC:

    http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Network-7260-HMWG-Wireless-AC-Bluetooth/dp/B00DMCVKMU
     
  25. Lafius

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    thank u for ur replay Jobine, but sorry i was talking about the Geoforce drivers!
    my wireless works fine.
     
  26. Jobine

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    Btw, I won't suggest undervolting your processor guys..... I undervolted mine to -100mV on dynamic voltage. Since then, I'm having constant blue screen if the laptop went idle for too long, especially if you're downloading (torrent in my case). Will still try to undervolt at -75mV or -50mV to see if it's safe.... You know, for science :D
     
  28. Jobine

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    Mines pretty stable at -70.

    But, undervolting doesn't depend on the model. It depends on the CPU, and even if both CPUs are identical models it doesn't mean they will undervolt the same.
     
  29. msturg29

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    Not sure I would want it that big. Other suggestions.

     
  30. Jobine

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    Then get the Y410p. You will appreciate the Quad-Core, and the dGPU can come in handy in the future if you intend to play some games. Sure, the display is nowhere as good as the Z510/Y510p but it is decent for a 14 incher, you still have the same PPI as the 15 inchers.

    At the moment, all 14 inch laptops that have quadcores are gaming laptops.
     
  31. EmberV

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    I found an internal price listing for Lenovo Malaysia and it is listing GT755M4 and GT755M5 removable graphics options for both y410p and y510p notebooks. Perhaps we should just see about importing a card from a Malaysian dealer as it seems they can get some interesting things :)

    [​IMG]
     
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  32. Jobine

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    2010_07_09_fifa_world-cup-winner-spain.jpg

    C'mon US & Canada!
     
  33. dbjulio

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    I bought a Y410P a month ago and had random disconnects from the internet every 15 minutes on average. Lenovo tech support did a remote log in and reset a couple of the advanced settings on the Intel 2330 wireless card and decided it had a hardware problem. Here's the link to the Intel recommended settings:

    Wireless Networking — What are the recommended settings for 802.11n connectivity?

    and some troubleshooting information. I tried everything mentioned in this thread and Intel's recommendations and it made no difference. Leonvo sent me a new replacement computer which did the same thing so I sent it back for a refund, giving up.
     
  34. Jobine

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    Download this and report back:

    https://downloadcenter.intel.com/co...oductProduct=Intel®+Centrino®+Wireless-N+2230
     
  35. jugermaut

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    Yes, that's correct. I've been reading some people are able to undervolt up to -120 mV for their 4700MQ. Mine is finally stable @ -75mV. I don't want to go further...
     
  36. EmberV

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    I would suspect that undervolting would be similar to how some chips can be overclocked higher than others, it's all just luck of the draw and if it works at -75mV for you, then that is fine.

    You could try pushing further, I would just make sure it doesn't apply the settings at boot and stress-test it with Prime95 for a while.

    Since we don't have lots of data from hundreds of people we can't really guess what the average undervolt voltage people can run at. It's possible that -75mV is the mean voltage, and if you can go to a lower voltage, you just have a really good chip.
     
  37. STRIKER 475

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    Thank God...

    but if I SLI my GT 755m I think I will use a PC monitor so I can play at higher resolution.
     
  38. Jobine

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    Um ... i just got my Lenovo Y410P A week ago and i'm very love it !

    it's pretty awesome on gaming + the desain always catched my eyes :p

    so about the nVidia 2nd graphic .... my lenovo comes with nVidia GT750M and i dont know what is the different between GT750M4 and GT750M5

    i'm so confused and i dont know which Graphic card that i will buy for my Y410P :)
     
  41. Jobine

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    M5 are designed for the Y510p and M4 are designed for the Y410p. But don't get your hopes up for the M4's. We still haven't had anyone post about their SLI Y410p. Plus, the single 750M is plenty enough for 720p gaming.
     
  42. Some Tech Noob

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    Been lurking and reading through all 155 pages of this forum, and looking to pickup the y410p for college, as it's cheaper and smaller than the y510p.

    I'm wondering the durability of this laptop. I see some posts of the hinge causing the corners to split another problem I saw with my friend's lenovo), and none of the lenovos(besides thinkpads, those indestructible things), and all the Lenovos I have seen have had problems within two years.
     
  43. Jobine

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    It is, but it also has an inferior screen and a smaller battery.
     
  44. Kaptivate

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    Hi all, just had a question regarding the overall size of the laptop. My y410p is scheduled to arrive next Wed, and I wanted to buy a case before it arrives. Will be bringing it too and from school. Read through most of the 155 pages and didn't see mention of cases being used. Planning on buying a normal case logic off of amazon: Amazon.com: Case Logic LAPS-116 15 - 15.6-Inch Laptop Sleeve (Black): Computers & Accessories . But I've read somewhere the bezel around the screen makes it too big to fit in the 14" case. So would I be fine ordering the 14" or should I go for the 16" to be safe?
     
  45. jugermaut

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    Btw, anybody here went on with repasting? Just notice that in order to repaste it..... I need to basically dismantle the whole thing down to motherboard only...... No shortcuts or anything?
     
  46. Lafius

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    guys .... does 'remove everything and reinstall windows' in the sitting removes the pre-installed programs that came with the laptop?
     
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    I received mine just a week ago and spent last weekend replacing HDD with an SSD, clean-installing Windows 8 and setting everything up the way I wanted.. Overall very solid laptop. But I agree with others here, the screen is very thin and flimsy. It does not have much needed structural support behind the LED screen itself and could be problematic when carrying it around at all times. I did not notice anything wrong with hinges particularly because mine is always sitting on my desk and I rarely open and close the screen. Given the quality of Lenovo laptops I have used in the past, mostly ThinkPad brands, I would expect it not fail soon. But it may prove wrong in the long run. After all, it is not meant to be carried around as often as ultrabooks. It is fairly heavy and its battery does not last long due to all the juice i7 cores and 750M need to do what they do best.

    Cheers,
     
  48. Lafius

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    congrats man ...
    could u tell me please how did u clean-installed Windows 8?
    I hate all the pre-installed crap the laptop came with.
     
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    I have had an MSDN ISO for the retail version of Windows 8 Pro with no product key handy.. As far as I know, there is no separate ISO for Windows 8 Standard, still I was not sure if the installer will work with a Volume License key embedded in the laptop. I took the plunge and just went ahead with the installation. Well, it never asked me for a product key and finished installing and activating a Standard edition. It is installed in Toshiba Q-Series 128GB SSD I got for around 80 bucks, getting around 550 MB/s read and write. It is performing pretty well. I just need to order a ultrabay enclosure for the 1TB drive that came with the laptop.
     
  50. Jobine

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    Someone repasted his, and got some way better temps while doing it. He described it as "hard to disassemble, easy to assemble".
     
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