Lenovo IdeaPad Y410P Owners and Information thread

My Y410P shipped with Qualcomm Atheros AR9485WB-EG wireless adapter, is that good or better upgrade to Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 since i have install the unlocked BIOS ?

 

Unless you have an a/ac/5ghz router, you shouldn't see any speed increases, really.

 

False, the 2230 is single band the the 7260 is dual-band, even in N mode you will see much less packet loss.

But against the Atheros, there is no point upgrading to AC if your router does not support it.

 

Oh. Well then, ok.

How's the battery life for the 72wh version? 62wh version? I'd imagine that it's a large improvement over the 48wh battery that the y410p initially shipped with.

 

Well, you get around 17% more battery life, so maybe 30 mins-1hour extra.

But yeah, compared to the 48w/h which gets around 4 hours, you are looking at a 6 hour runtime of light browsing.

 

umm maybe i need to undervolting my Proc too
undervolting help much to reduvce the heat, right ?

so far my proc reach 80-90 when gaming and i dont want to melt the proc
and also it's always overclock by it self when i charge the laptop



can you give me some toturial how to undervolt it Jobine ? please

 

Install Intel Extreme Tuning utility, then change the "core voltage" and "processor cache voltage" to -80mV and -60mV respectively, then run a stress test (gaming works) so you don't get bluescreen. If it's stable, you can choose to leave it that way, or just pushing the undervolt even lower for lower temps, but increasing the bluescreen risk.

P.S. Can you some pictures of your laptop (the exterior), i still call shens on your whole Y410p SLI.

 

okay thx for your help .. i have install it and it runs very well ...
but i dont know how to configure it ...



it's first time i'm using it ... please gime this noob more details

 

Dynamic CPU Voltage Offset --> Set it to -80mV
Processor Cache Voltage Offset --> Set it to -50mV
Hit "apply"

Also, i want these pictures

 

What's the safest way to get some more battery life out of this thing? Only getting ~3-3.5 hours right now. I understand I can do something to the CPU?

 

Lower the voltage to the CPU, or disable some cores(Ask Jobine for more info, risky due to BIOS flashiing). Also, what battery are you using? Sounds like the 48wh one. And use as much of the Intel HD 4600 as possible, probably.

 

Try installing windows 7 to the SSD and then entirely disabling the hard drive. That alone is one extra hour of battery life + noise reduction (the laptop is almost silent when no HDD).

Also, by default, Optimus forces your Nvidia GPU to load when you open your browser. Disable that. Also disable bluetooth. And as pointed above, set the Intel chip as your main GPU.

CPU tweaks require flashing a custom BIOS mod. But yeah, those are the only ways you will get 5+ hours (like i do) from the 48w/h.

 

HI peoples

Does Intel Rapid Start come preinstalled on your y410p's? I didnt come with mine. Can someone please provide a ink to download it from?

Thanks

 

I just purchased a 72wh battery for the Y410P from Love Battery. I have not received it yet but I am hoping it will provide significant improvement in battery life without needing to tweak the heck out of the laptop.

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Yeah, I'll try out the tweaks that the others suggested, and then eventually get the bigger battery. Hopefully we can get some real mobility with this thing

 

this my XTU setting, btw i do not use the battery and only use the ac.

 

Does anyone know if a newer model will come out soon?

 

Not until march, because that's when Nvidia 8xx will be released. However, the most recent editions of the Y510p have been upgraded to the Nvidia GeForce 755M, a larger 72w/h battery and Intel 7260 Wireless.

 

Put your battery back in your laptop and then open Lenovo Energy Management and set the battery mode to "Optimized battery health", which will prevent long term wear on the battery by not charging it past 60% (even when the laptop is OFF). Otherwise, by leaving your battery in the cold, it is actually wearing itself out FASTER.

 

That's not true. You're still wearing out the battery unnecessarily with it plugged into the laptop, albeit at a very slow pace. If you're always on AC power, the best thing you can do to preserve your battery is to charge it to 50%, take it out, and stick it in the fridge (no Ziploc bag to prevent condensation) or a cool dry place. Every 30 days, take it out and do a full discharge/charge cycle. Admittedly this is a bit tedious, but I have had laptop batteries last me over a decade through these steps.

 

I have a 6-ish year old HP that still surfs the interwebs for ~2 hours on the original battery. It was always plugged in, always had the battery installed. Just sometimes the darned thing doesn't boot up.

 

I have a 10 year old Toshiba that, until it died, had about an hour of battery life. My parents finally replaced it when they couldn't find a replacement IDE hard drive at Fry's. And it was pretty much on 24/7, plugged in.

 

I'm pondering the installation of a new screen for my y400(y410). The hardware is excellent, but the low quality, low resolution panel really takes a toll on the it's usability. I wanted to know if there are any recommended replacement panels that are high quality and higher resolution (1080p preferably).

So far the only 14" panel I've seen that may work is that of the Thinkpad T440s:
IBM-Lenovo THINKPAD T440S 20AQ005SUS Notebook Display Replacement | LAPTOP & TABLET LCD SCREEN FROM $34.99.

I'm out of my element regarding laptop panels however so any help is appreciated.

 

Pretty sure the y410p - and by extension probably the y400 is a 40 pin connector, so that monitor wouldn't work in the first place.

According to Ember, from October 2013::
"I've done a bit more research on the whole panel replacement thing and found a drop-in replacement matte AUO panel from the same model series as the glossy one used officially by Lenovo (AUO B140RW02 V0) AUO B140RW02 V2 Overview - Panelook.com Notice same mounting, correct LVDS connector and IT'S MATTE!

Another potential replacement would be this Chi Mei/Innolux: CHIMEI INNOLUX N140FGE-L31 Overview - Panelook.com

So you guys with 1366x768 machines could potentially upgrade to 1600x900 matte displays for about $50.

The displays posted earlier will not work properly as they don't have the right mounting holes.

Unfortunately, I couldn't find any high color gamut screens that had the correct mounting.

1920x1080 is NOT possible right now as the only 14" displays being made use eDP connectors. Larger 17.3" panels are available in this resolution with LVDS."

Yup

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/razer/731249-razer-blade-14-screen-mod-5.html

Since the blade and Y410p share very similar displays, maybe checking the progress of this thread could be useful.

 

I always chuckle when I see stuff like this. For as long as I ever keep a gaming laptop I just leave it plugged in and sell when it's time to get a new gaming system. 1-2 years tops to stay up with the latest games. Even plugged in all the time most batteries will survive 2 years.

Cheers,

 

anyone here bought this laptop outside the US? if so how? or does anyone know the best site to buy y410p's other than lenovo.com
thanks

 

Anyone willing to sell his laptop?

 

Good for you. Not everyone is like you. I've always built and upgraded my own desktops and didn't get into gaming notebooks until two years ago when I started college. So before that, I used a grand total of two laptops for over a decade. And I was able to keep both their batteries basically brand new, almost no loss in capacity, for that long by following those steps. I still used the batteries quite a bit, but I made sure that I took care of them and removed them when I was going to be on AC for an extended period of time. When you keep old laptops as long as I did, finding replacement batteries after many years can be difficult and/or expensive since the machine has long been out of production. Also, some laptop batteries wear out faster than others. Case in point, the one in my Lenovo Y500 has already lost 10% of its capacity in 6 months. Most of that wear came during the 3 months of summer when I had it plugged in and topped off at 100% 24/7. I didn't use Optimized Battery Health in Lenovo Energy Management because it doesn't work properly for me, so in hindsight I probably should've removed the battery during that time.

 

Thanks for the information. Now I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to the technicalities behind laptop components but, since the laptop's dock has more pins than the screen's connector (40 pins to 30 pins) isn't there some sort of adapter available? I would assume that having more pins in the laptop is good because you can simply add more pins to the screen via an adapter.

Ah thanks for the link, that may prove to be very useful.

 

@LanceAvion I replied in the Razer forum to you but I will also mirror my post here: you would need a LVDS to eDP bridge, none of which I know of exist. There are bridges from eDP to LVDS, but that will not work.

 

I understand. I just personally find it amusing. I don't have the time nor inclination to go through such steps but certainly understand that some people use these systems for more than gaming and might keep them longer than a couple of years. Even if I was so inclined to keep it for 3-5 years I'd most likely just buy another battery.

I wouldn't begin to know how much capacity my battery has. I don't check. I don't benchmark. It's the same with temps for me. If I do get thermal related slow downs I don't need to check the temps. I have no idea what my idea vs load temps are. Nor do I know whether my SSD is performing at the advertised specs. I just know the system boots in under 8 seconds so that's good. I understand why some people do, however, my understanding of their reasoning doesn't prevent me from deriving humor from their actions.

I just use the thing for games and when it's time for another one I sell it.

Cheers,

 

Is battery life really improved?

I had a y410p about 4 months ago if I remember and the battery only lasted 3hours tops but I forgot what the battery wh on the first y410p was. I heard they switch it to 72wh? Any review or real time usage on whether the battery really improved?

 

Well, if you owned a Y410p, you must have likely had a 48w/h battery. Though i have the same battery and i can get 5 hours ish on mine due to tweaks. The new ones have 72w/h, they last 5-6 hours.

Not much has changed since the early models (which i own), they added Dual-Band Wifi, Factory Overclocked GPUs and a larger battery, the latter two you can upgrade yourself.

Rumors are the new models have trackpad issues, though dont take my word for it.

 

Hey Jobine and/or anyone else,

Has anyone run bioshock infinite on their machine? I should be able to run it no problem with decent frame rates but even on low settings it barely gets 30FPS. Any idea why?

 

How did you roll back the sound device drivers?
Under Sound I see:
- Intel(R) Display Audio
-NVIDIA Virtual Audio Device
-Realtek High Definition Audio

And none of those offer the option to "roll back driver" under their properties.

 

Which drivers are you trying to roll back to? Microsoft ones?

 

Also, has anyone tested overclocking the CPU to 3.6ghz? Im temped to to do it (assuming it is properly undervolted to control throttling)

 

Exactly what I'm wondering lol. Cause if it's the Microsoft ones then I should just uninstall the sound driver right? But since there are three drivers under Sound in Device Manager, I'm just wondering if rolling back a specific one is what fixed the crackling.

 

Yes, uninstalling the sound driver will work. Try uninstalling one, test sound, uninstall, etc. The only pet peeve with using the default sound driver is that your headphone port will have its red SPDIF light on..

 

Indeed, not everyone is; he and you are unique, like everybody else. Incuding me.

And I chuckle, too. I've been using laptops of various stripes - mostly ThinkPads - since about, heck, I don't know, something like 1995. (I even had a butterfly keyboard model. Google it; it freaked everybody out every time I opened it.)

I've never done anything special with or to batteries. I mostly used the laptops plugged in and just ignored the battery. Not every laptop had stellar battery life, but if that was the case it was true when I first got it. I had no noticeable degradation over the life of the laptop, typically 2-3 years.

If doing things like keeping it in the freezer makes you feel secure, by all means go ahead. I'm not going to, based on nearly 15 years of experience - granted, with IBM & Lenovo almost always, but then, what forum is this?

(I did have an episode where I kept the whole laptop in the freezer, but that was because the cooling fan broke while I was on vacation and I couldn't send it in for repair. Doing that let me use it quite a bit longer before it shut down from overheating. I did eventually get the fan replaced, of course.)

 

Cool story bro, but maybe you should learn to read first. I wrote fridge, not freezer.

 

I ordered my y410p on black friday...still waiting on Lenovo to finally ship the machine....!

It was originally scheduled to ship last Wednesday. They just sent me an email saying that shipping has been "delayed".

Feeling a bit anxious now. anyone else in the same situation? Did black friday shoppers receive their laptops yet?

 

i run with lucky. I ordered in 10/12 an was delivered yesterday. Do you have a track number?

 

Yep. But I put mine in the freezer. Lasted longer that way.

 

I ordered the laptop on the 1st, was delayed on the 13th and just got a shipment notification a few hours ago, should be here by Friday.

 

I ordered the cheaper 768p model Y410P on black Friday, and the top of the line model Y410P on cyber Monday. My hope was to compare the two, and keep the less expensive one if the screen was not that bad (I have not found any videos of the 768p screen anywhere. I had to cancel the less expensive model on the 12th when I was told it would not ship until January. I called Lenovo multiple times, and just received notice the better model shipped from North Carolina today. That's great, cause I already received the 500GB Samsung SSD I ordered to replace the 1TB drive, and the caddy I bought for the hard drive. I also ordered a 72wh battery for it just to make sure I had a backup

 

As of this writing, the Y410p is at the front of the US homepage:

Laptops, Notebooks & Netbooks - Laptops For Those Who Do | Lenovo | US

 

Is it possible to force a game like Skyrim to run at 1080p? The max res. In the skyrim options is 1366x768.... I only want to do this because MSAA makes a big hit in fps, and apparently aliasing is barely noticeable in 1080p....

 

If 1366x768 is your native resolution, then no. Otherwise, you'd be looking at supersampling, and that's even more performance-intensive than MSAA.

If aliasing bothers you, you could try post-process techniques such as FXAA and SMAA, which do a great job of removing jaggies with little performance impact, albeit at the cost of some possible blurriness. If I recall correctly, Skyrim's built-in FXAA is pretty blurry. Driver-forced FXAA through the Nvidia Control Panel might give you sharper results. There are popular third-party post-process injectors such as ENB and SweetFX that allow you to adjust the AA sharpening among many other things, but these can have a major impact on performance because they can be configured to add a ton of extra eye candy. Lastly there is SMAA, which has the same minimal performance impact as FXAA but is supposedly sharper. It can be injected using this tool here: mrhaandi's crypto corner: injectSMAA