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    Lenovo IdeaPad Y410P Owners and Information thread

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by jedolley, Jun 10, 2013.

  1. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    1366x768 looks better on a Y410p than a Y510p. My 2 cents.
     
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    Well you can get 1600x900 on the Y410p right?

    And yea lol. Y410p has a smaller screen which means lower resolution won't affect it as much as the bigger screen on the y510p.
     
  3. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    Exactly. Though i always recommend grabbing the highest resolution possible on the laptop you choose.
     
  4. skavi

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    Even the 4K Y50?

    Sent from my HTCONE using Tapatalk
     
  5. Character Zero

    Character Zero Notebook Evangelist

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    Since the Y400 thread seems dead I thought I would post here since I have the 750M. Got Metal Gear Rising from Steam. Running on native 1366x768 I get around 45 FPS on High which doesn't seem to affect anything. When I got to 1080p (via HDMI to TV) I get in the 30s, still playable. At true 720p it probably gets into the 50s. Still some issue with resolutions the game needs to fix but wanted to pass along my performance.
     
  6. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    Debatable. If the Y50's FHD display is matte i'd choose that over the 4K.
     
  7. Some Tech Noob

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    Well, of course. 1080 has more pixels than 768. 768 has more pixels than 720.
    The 750m is not a super strong graphics card. The more pixels it has to push around, the more it has to work(applies to every GPU). As a result, less frames per second will be displayed as you get into higher resolutions.
     
  8. Character Zero

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    Yeah I know how resolutions work with GPU in regards to FPS. I was just providing the information of performance to anyone who was wondering about this game with the Y410/400 or Y510/500.
     
  9. genekellyjr

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    Can you OC the processor?
    Yes. Yes you can. Kind of. With constant boost multipliers.
    Should you OC the processor?
    No. But no reason not to undervolt.

    But I did it anyway!
    Using: Intel XTU (Throttlestop caused odd behaviors and couldn't control the voltage - key to getting a non-cooked laptop)
    How:
    1. Install XTU
    2. Open XTU
    3. Find "Dynamic CPU Voltage Offset"
    4. Pull that puppy down to ~-110 mV **Undervolting complete, I lost about 10 C with that move at max. (Any higher was not stable.)
    5. Find "Multipliers"
    6. Move those puppies up. 2 core 35x seemed to not be stable with the undervolt, but 36x 1 core and 34x 3+4 core were both solid.
    7. Revel in Geekbench going from 3172/11858 to 3241/12366 (2% and 4% boost, respectively)
    8. Ponder sitting on lower temps rather than higher OC
    9. 'Murica let it burn.

    There you have it!
    I upped "Processor Cache" to x35 and gave it a -110 mV undervolt as well. I noticed nothing. I lowered graphics' "Processor Graphics Voltage Offset" by -56 mV and noticed no heat change either.
    But you can! I thought about OC'ing the graphics, but why. No one wants that.

    I dunno if anyone has posted previously about this, but I found out about this via other channels that weren't the Y410P forums.

    TL;DR: Lower "Dynamic CPU Voltage Offset" by about -110 mV and win.
     
  10. sweatyballz

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    Are you planning to get the y50 or the Y40?
     
  11. plazing

    plazing Notebook Guru

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    for me -110mV for core is not stable when playing games/graphic benchmark but pass 5 minute stress test.
    now im sticking with -100mV core and -60mV cache, with default 34x,33x,32x,32x.
    i also try to play with TDP and reduce it around 43W and 53.75W for short power(x1.25)
    have you try overclock the GPU ?
     
  12. GJ004

    GJ004 Newbie

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    has anyone had problems with the new nvidia driver 322.21? i downloaded it yesterday and noticed my fps on most games was lowered significantly, so I decided to try and reinstall it today and now when I turn on my y410p it shows the lenovo loading screen followed by a blank black screen instead of going into windows :( so I take it the laptop isnt reading the graphics card or something when i turn it on? please if anyone has any ideas on how to fix this or what is going wrong respond as i have no idea how to fix this!!
     
  13. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    Nope, i'm not due a new laptop for another 2 years. I'll be buying desktop parts this year however.
     
  14. jblank

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    Yes, that very same thing happened to me. I had to go into the Windows repair thing and do I system restore to before the driver install in order to even get to sign onto Windows.
     
  15. GJ004

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    ok good to know someone else had the same problem, how exactly did you get into the windows repair? because at the moment i cant do anything but look at a blank screen :/
     
  16. Jobine

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    Any undervolt higher than -95mV is too unstable for me.
     
  17. jblank

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    Two ways. The first way, after four or five power off and on cycles, it went there automatically. After this happened, I rebooted and hit F8 and went into System Repair (I think it's called). I eventually did the restore, downloaded it again, and did all the recommended install methods (I did a clean install when it messed up) and it worked.
     
  18. MichaelLC

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    I had this problem too.

    Installed new driver from the Nvidia program and after install went to black screen. Had to restore as described above to get back to desktop.

    Now laptop is locking up, so need to give Lenovo a call.
     
  19. sanman

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    I also had the same problem. Looks like a repeatable issue. I am still running the older 331 drivers until Lenovo gets off their butts to QA and post the latest driver
     
  20. carterofearth

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    Has anyone done any DIY case upgrades? I love my y410, but man is it flimsy and flexible. The screen flexes, the backside squishes in when closed and held, and most annoying to me is that when I pick the laptop up with one hand in one of the corners, I can feel the whole thing sag a little. Any ideas for reinforcing the actual case of the laptop?
     
  21. saria131

    saria131 Newbie

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    Hi all, I noticed many of you were quite active on the forum and I'm very glad our laptop is getting the attention it deserves. On my side of thigns, I went the better business bureau route with my y410p regarding the false advertising of the ultrabay and was offered a roughly 100$ discount, an exchange for an all dressed y510p and many other things. All in all, I decided to change my first 410p for the latest one and bum them a free mouse and official apologies.

    I exchanged my 59369914 for a 59399853. Basically massive battery upgrade, decent videocard upgrade, and decent wireless card upgrade. Did I mention the free mouse ?

    Anyways. I looked around a lot for information regarding the y410p and fiddled with mine quite a bit (despite being a humanities/management student, my roots are in IT and I work a computer store). And found that it was quite hard to pinpoint what information was correct or not regarding the laptop. Which is why I opened a wiki specifically for the y410p.

    I sincerely hope that most of you active guys, take a few minutes to repaste your tutorials and information on the wiki. Jobine, your help would be very much appreciated in that manner.

    Information regarding dos and don'ts, bios flashing, ultrabay hacks, installing linux distros etc would be great. Be it partial information written in point form going to detailled tutorials with videos and photos, I don't care, it would just be amazing to have one organized place for the community to put the information out there. The wiki is yours to publish on gentlemen.

    Y410p Wiki

    Right click up top, right corner, contribute, then create a page, and shazzam !

    Also, I will be leaving my email here if people were to be nice enough and jump on the train, i would be glad to help.
    [email protected]

    (Also, anything regarding bios flashing my newest model with the gt755m so I can undervolt and disable two cores would be much appreciated :p )
     
  22. Jason335

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    Lenovo offered you a SLI'ed Y510P? How did you do that? I'm pretty disappointed in Lenovo's false advertising with the Ultrabay.
     
  23. saria131

    saria131 Newbie

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    I complained, a lot. My story starts at the bottom of the chain, working my way up to the team lead customer satisfaction for north america talking to me on the phone multiple times. At some point he just stopped communicating or trying to find answers on the 410p ultrabay. Got fed up. Complained to the BBB. Got a response in 2 days. Guy over the phone the next day, answering him through personnal line etc and all of a sudden my story was taken seriously.

    He offered many things, one of them was the latest y510p all dressed, priced at 1599$ when I got my ideapad through a redflagdeals offer at 789$ lol.

    Decided to skip, size is too important of a factor for me, asked for the new y410p and a free mouse, with formal apologies. The y410p I wanted was an american model and not available (still isnt) for canadian purchase, with a warranty anyways. It wasnt even a problem, four seconds later it was confirmed, few days later laptop was shipped, no customs on my part, warranty valid in canada despite american model and serial number. Warranty starts day received and not the date I got my original y410p, as such also got a free 1 year warranty of some sorts.

    All in all, I'm not a "satisfied customer" but, lenovo did get it's straight with me, apologized, and agreed to my, capricious I admit, request.

    1523938_10151856043286625_763182871_o.jpg

    A pic of my two 410p, on the left old one, right, new one.

    Still waiting for the shipping label to send theirs (my old) back to lenovo.
     
  24. sweatyballz

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    How do you reformat the Y410p?
     
  25. Lafius

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    what Bluetooth driver do u guys use?
    this is really frustrating, i cant get it to work, or even recognized!

    im on windows 7 ultimate 64-bit

    and BTW
    whats the best copy of windows 7 ultimat 64bit?
    i used the one Jobine linked but i dont think it worked well for me.
     
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    Anyone getting the 0xc000007b error? It comes up on everyone of my programs....any help anyone?
     
  27. jblank

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    Are you talking about reinstalling the OS or completely formatting the HDD?
     
  28. Jobine

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    Running latest Nvidia WHQL here but haven't gamed since I upgraded my drivers, however I did do some video rendering on the card without any errors.

    With this said I have a 750 not a 755.
     
  29. carterofearth

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    maybe try this? 0xc000007b Error Repair Tool
     
  30. MichaelLC

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    You can power down and press the flush button on the left side near hinge - caleld OneSomething. It's an Lenovo thing and will restore to factory.
    Other option is to do the Restore options thorugh Windows. This let's you resotre or completely wipe. Think just searching in the Control Panel for 'Restore' should find it.

    I should know, since done it 5 times since getting one last week. Getting a replacement after dealing with a week of locks and freezes.
     
  31. genekellyjr

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    No GPU OC yet, I was ripping a DVD and noticed that it would settle down to its 2.4 GHz stock after a bit. That's what prompted me to do a little tuning.
    I'll be giving the GPU a go this weekend probably, as on Rome Total War II it's being *such* a jerk. Because Creative Assemblies coded that game like a square wheel.
     
  32. Jobine

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    Installed Mavericks in a VM (VMware Player), the more i use it, the more i wanna get a Mac.

    On the bright side, the 4700MQ is good at running VM's, i can have a VM with 2 cores/4 thread and 4GB RAM and then leave the rest to my host OS :)
     
  33. duperstar

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    Does it run full screen? I would love to boot into it :D
     
  34. sweatyballz

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    Unless you have money to blow, I wouldn't recommend getting a mac. PC master race checking in. (Even though I do have a late MBP 2010

    How good is the 4700 MQ by the way. I am afraid I don't think I ever used it at its full potential.
     
  35. tygn

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    Got back to win8.1 and express cache still not working, guess I'm cursed :)

    Where I can find express cache drivers for win8.1 64bit?
     
  36. Jobine

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    Runs full screen after you install WMware tools via a mod.
     
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    Could anyone help me out? I'm new here, I installed Windows 7 and I'm having problems with the GT 755M, the Lenovo website drivers work fine but whenever I update the drivers, it doesn't work. The drivers from Nvidia will install properly but no games will detect it and even if I set it to run on the GT 755M it'll either give an error or simply won't run. What should I do?

    UPDATE : I installed the latest "older" version (331.82) and its working fine, guess there's something wrong with the drivers.
     
  38. Jobine

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    No, i completely agree. Getting a Mac with the specs i need (Quad+dGPU) costs me nothing short of 2000$, not to mention i loathe Mac keyboard, and the overall look of the laptop. I just find OS X to be a nice OS, but it does have its shortcomings.
     
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    hey jobine does every thing work in vmware workstation running osx mavericks i mean wifi, graphics and sound. i used to have snow leapord on my old laptop with only Ethernet to connect, nothing else worked. so i am planing on installing mavericks
     
  40. duperstar

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    I'm really itching to try mavericks. Saw some videos on how to install, nothing too complicated. Is everything working? I'm sure nvidia won't but that's not important..some sort of dual boot would be BAD-A**
     
  41. Jobine

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    I don't recommend hackintoshing unless you have enough free time. Also be warned that if you run os x inside vmware or virtualbox you will not have QE/CI. With this said, Wifi does work in Hackintosh, however you will need a Hackintosh compatible WiFi card, which requires a modded BIOS to install.

    Also under OS X on the Y410p, you are stuck with Intel 4600 or Nvidia 750M, but cannot use both. I recommend the 4600, the driver setup is much more painless and you will need the extra battery life. It's not like you game on Macs anyways.

    I can't help you too much with hackintoshing, my hackintoshing days are long past, last time i hackintoshed was in 2010.
     
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    I'm down with the 4600 but I need Wi-Fi to work then I can actually use the OSX..safari at least. Already have modded bios. Did your wifi work?
     
  43. Jobine

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    No, Intel Wireless cards are not supported in OS X natively at all. You will need to buy a 3rd party wifi and install it yourself, then use a modded bios. Vmware and Hackintosh are 2 completely different things.
     
  44. Lafius

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    Hello Jobine ,
    I have Windows 7 64bit
    whenever I try to install DOLBY home theater v4
    this message comes up :"PCEE need to be installe"
    any help would be appreciated.
     
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    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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    ok, got it
    i had to install realteck driver first
    then install gaad05ww
    it worked
    thx
     
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    I just received my Y410P last week, the Y410P model 59399853 that is equipped with the 24-GB SSD cache. This is my very first Lenovo computer. All of my previous computers have been Dell and Alienware. Before purchasing this Y410P, I considered the Alienware 14, but it was more expensive and bulkier than I cared for.

    However, I realized that the 24-GB SSD cache on my new Y410P was not working. I then spent 5+ hours talking to four Lenovo hardware tech support people in Lenovo's Philippines support center, all of whom seemed very clueless about how to troubleshoot a non-functioning SSD cache. None of those four tech support people even heard of Express Cache or the eccmd.exe command when I explained to them that `eccmd -info` got an error message of "HFS Volume is not mounted. ECCmd Requested device is not available." I also removed the bottom cover and verified that the 24-GB M.2 NGFF SSD was installed in my laptop.

    So my new Y410P has two problems, which I wonder if they are related to each other or not:

    1) The 24-Gb SSD card is installed, but not working. It is not listed in the BIOS, Disk Management tool, or Device Manager, and `eccmd` does not recognize it.

    2) When I cold-boot my laptop, it sits at the "Lenovo" logo screen with the spinning busy icon for a very long 2.0 to 2.5 minutes.before I reach the Windows login screen. I have a Dell Inspiron 17R Special Edition that has a similar quad-core 3rd-gen i7-3630QM also running Windows 8.1 and equipped with a 32-GB SSD cache, using Intel's Rapid-Start/Smart-Response software instead of the Y410P's ExpressCache software, and it only takes about 20-25 seconds to go from the Dell logo to the Windows login screen. All my other desktop and laptop computers running Windows 7 and Vista cold-boot faster too, even though I have not even begun to load software onto this new Y410P.

    I have seen previous postings about long boot-up times on the Y410P, but no one seems to provide a fix or solution to this.

    So I phoned the Lenovo post-sales department and they gave me the option of either returning for a full refund or getting a replacement. I opted for the exchange and got RMA authorization and can return the defective unit via prepaid UPS return label. Both my original Y410P and the replacement are shipped from their Greensboro,NC location. When Lenovo post-sales entered a new order number for me yesterday (Jan 14), the Lenovo "Order Status" page stated that anticipated ship date was January 16. On the Y410P Web page, the estimated ship date for ordering a new Y410P is Jan 20. But yesterday evening, I noticed that my replacement was already shipped out. I should be happy about this prompt service, but I also noticed that the serial number of the replacement Y410P is about 100000 lower than my current unit's serial number (current serial number starts with YB003##### while the replacement is YB002#####). The combination of the lower serial number and how quickly they shipped out the replacement now has me wondering if Lenovo is sending me a refurbished Y410P instead of a new laptop. I will get it delivered next Monday, the 20th.

    Out of curiosity, I went to Lenovo Support - Parts Lookup (US) and compared the parts listing for both my current Y410P and the replacement that is being sent and both laptop serial numbers have identical parts except that my current Y410P has a keyboard FRU part number of 25205514 (which the Hardware Maintenance Manual lists as a "U.S. English" keyboard) and the replacement Y410P has a keyboard FRU part number of 25205515 (which the Hardware Maintenance Manual lists as a "U.K. English" (!!!!) keyboard) So now I also wonder if (a) the keyboard on the replacement Y410P will have a British-pound symbol above the 4-key instead of a "$" sign, or (b) if this replacement laptop was originally sent to a British user and was then refurbished.

    I can understand getting a refurbished computer for three scenarios: (1) the specific computer model is no longer actively being manufactured, (2) the customer is asking for an exchange after having used their computer for 8 or 10 months during the 1-year warranty period, or (3) the replacement falls outside of the 1-year warranty period. But it would seem highly unethical to send a customer a used refurbished computer after the customer had purchased a new one and only used it for a few days before noticing that it was defective. If Lenovo replacement computers are refurbished units, I should have then asked for a full refund and then purchased a new one again. I do know that for Dell's display monitors, if you ask for an exchange, you may get a refurbished display even though your initial monitor was new.

    Has anyone ever exchanged a new Lenovo computer and received a replacement that was not a new computer, but was refurbished? Is this common for Lenovo to replace a defective new computer with a refurbished one? On an ethical basis, Lenovo should resell previously used computers on their outlet.lenovo.com site instead of pushing them onto customers who purchased a new computer that was defective or dead on arrival.
     
  49. nagarjuna993

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    hey jobine i am looking to buy this wifi card for hackintosh
    Amazon.com: Wireless PCIe Card BGN AR5BHB92 AR9280 Dual-band 2.4/5.0GHz 2x2 MIMO 300 Mbps 802.11b/g/n for DELL Toshiba Acer Sony Samsung Asus etc: Computers & Accessories
    is it supported by 410p and do i have to mod the bios.
     
  50. Jobine

    Jobine Notebook Prophet

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