Lenovo Legion Y740 17" 15"

That's probably for 15 inch version...

Also note it's not 3 weeks, since ship dates are April 30th... that's roughly 5 weeks.

 

Yea, 15", big price drop for 2060 and 2070 models.
The price is awesome - it makes it better than Clevo/Sager models with same GPUs. If only it didn't have such long waiting time...

 

Hey guys, just got my Y740 15 inch earlier this week. Just wondering if there is a way to adjust the fans? I can't see it in the Lenovo Vantage app.

Currently, it goes from quiet to loud, not much of an in between.

 

Checked my order and its cancelled without warning :O

Messaged the agent who helped me.

 

Derp, it’s fn + q I believe. But it’s just normal or high. Not sure if there’s any middle setting or way to set one.

 

Also derp, throttlestop could help keeping the fans on low.

 

I think I'll order one and see how long it will take before they'll ship. The price is too good to pass - it is better than Sager/Clevo prices now from any of their resellers and definitely better than anything from Alienware/Gigabyte/MSI/Razer/Asus. And @B0B review really made it look good (I don't care about battery capacity, I almost never have the need to use it unplugged).

 

If battery isn’t an issue and you’re good with the odd keyboard setup, then it’s amazing!

 

Indeed a fantastic price.

Also thank for the review and teardown videos. They'll be great for the hard drive and memory upgrades later on.

 

Has anyone with the 15" 2060 or 2070 mq used it with the Rift or Vive? If so what was your experience?

 

Yea, I believe the battery will be enough for me. I actually looked at the Gigabyte Aero model before choosing and I just did not want to deal with poor cooling system - it only has exhaust vents on the back which are partially covered by display hinge and I had very bad experience with similar design in Apple MacBooks ;-) Plus of course the price difference - Gigabyte should really do similar sales with their laptops, they're losing lots of sales to Lenovo now.

Anyway, I really appreciated your videos, you and the OWNorDisown are the only interesting YT laptop review channels I genuinely enjoyed.

 

Good deal from Slickdeals:

Cheaper than base price+military discount, so more than 25% off!

 

Good find. But I don't want to cancel my order and be moved back to end of queue ;-)

 

Yeah I've done both, unfortunately it's a bit silly that it can't be controlled. It's running at under 70 celcius but sometimes I don't mind higher temps for a bit more quiet.

 

Hello community,
i have to say thank you that such forums exists where owners and users can provide their experiences.

Since 5 years i am looking for a gaming notebook to replace my 9 year old desktop pc.

Yes it's kind of stupid, but my main criteria to a gaming notebook is the fan noise in normal desktop usage and the kind of fan noise in gaming sessions.
I have tested:
Some different alienware notebooks: totally quiet in normal office usage, super loud in gaming sessions
3x razer blade 15 2070 max q: just totally quiet after boot and when you do nothing with the computer, extreme coil whine, high pitched high frequent fan noise, super loud, i measured 60DB playing fortnite on ultra (notebookcheck gives it 86% for emissions, i can't understand that.

This was just the background now to my questions:

I have red every post in this now 62 pages thread. I have watched every youtube video to the legion y740. (Thank you guys for all those excellent reviews).

In none gaming: are the fans totally turned off for some time or are they always running?

(notebookcheck wrote "Quieter, Sleeker...Better? A quick fix for both is to switch to Power Saver when you’re in a situation where you need more quiet than power; doing so favors passive cooling at lower chip temperatures"
Some people here and in the lenovo forum worte the fans are always running.

The fans under load: Would you guys say that the fan noise is "flat" and not high pitched / high frequent?
Don't get me wrong, yes a gaming notebook can be loud for me but the high pitched noise of the current Razer Blade drove me crazy after a few hours of gaming with headset.
This is kind of what i mean with high pitch fan noise it sounds like a wistle: https://reddit.com/link/8w3j18/video/r2g2btcdxy711/player

Long text for a new member - apologies for that, but i think you guys are more professional then the pre-sales guys from lenovo, dell, razer i have talked to yet.


Best regards,
Itzap

 

The Y740 is actually quite quiet under load; even with the fans on full blast all the time using Fn+Q it is still about half as loud as my previous Alienware 15 R3. I don't even need a headset with the fans at full blast, gaming, and the volume at 22 (this is generally how I game on single-player games as I don't want to wear a headset with the little one running around). Under regular usage, the fans will spin as required. Hope that helps!

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Hey guys,
I just picked up my Y740 with 2080 max-q yesterday and so far i really like it!
So I just wanted to share my first thoughts about the laptop with you here:
Build quality and Design
The body, palmrest and the general feel of the laptop are very good. There is a bit of flexing around the keyboard area if i apply a bit of pressure, but not much.
The design is pretty simple, there are no agressive elements on the laptop to show people "gamer", though the lighting for the vents is an eye catcher !
Non the less, the keyboard lighting can be adjusted by using the icue app, the key travel is good.
Performance and temperature
Having just tested Far Cry 5 and Battlefield V for a few hours i can tell that the performance is great and thermals are very good.
CPU with undervolting (-0.140) maxed out at 89*C, averaging 80*C in BF V, the rtx 2080 max-q stayed even cooler with just 70*C max (average boost clock of around 1350). (ambient temperature 20*C)
Noise
The fans kick in when gaming, but I was comfortable playing BF V without headphones.The fan noise (at least 17 Inch version i have) is not high pitched at all. Usually i am pretty sensitive when it comes to noise, but the noise of Y740 doesnt bother me at all even when gaming.
When in idle, the fans are almost completely silent, i cant hear anything but the HDD (which is still pretty quiet)
General impressions
The power supply really is huge (it is a little bit bigger than a bar of chocolate)
The display hinge really is a bit soft, the display shakes a bit when barely touching the screen, but should be okay.
I have mixed feelings about the display: Great colours, great image quality, 144hz which is very nice, but there is backlight bleed. I will try taking pictues of it with my iphone later.
So overall, great laptop, and besides the lightbleed, there are no real cons. It offers a great value (compared to other 2080 max-q laptops), good build quality, nice cooling with great performance.
Portability is (as expected from a 17 inch laptop) not the best (the huge power supply doesnt help either). If portability is important to you, you should go with the 15 inch version.

 

Hi Kalen, hello Alex555,

i have a wife and a boy, but really i have to say i love you for your posts.
just joking.

I will give this laptop a try i have a good feeling now about it.

Just one question is very nearly but not 100% answered. Are the fans always on (you can check it with a hw monitor and see the RPMs) if you just watch a youtube video or writing some mails are the fans off for some time?

Hope everybody here will have great times with this laptop and again thank you for every single post.


Cheers,
Itzap

 

Thanks for the review. This laptop wasn't even on my radar until a few days ago. Almost every review I have read has mentioned moderate to bad backlight bleed, which I hate. Only thing stopping me from buying this, plus the long shipping time.

 

I heard that was one of the reasons for the January recall. Panels and Motherboard issues.

Bob of all trades unit had very little bleed so maybe the issue is fixed.

Also to note thin bezel laptop are more prone to it for design reasons.

 

Another great review has been uploaded:

 

Nice review. Is it common that RTX laptops don't bench well?

 

Ya I definitely found that. Graphics scores on Firestrike were low on both the 2060 and the 2070 Max-Q as compared to the 1070 but real world performance in games was a big difference and showed where the RTX series pulled ahead.

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That's been my findings as well. Benchmarks are a waste of time and once I get thought all of the new GPU's i'll go back to not featuring them again.

There's much better ways to discovering performance discrepancies on laptops.

 

I definitely think firestrike is a waste of time Benching rtx is on it. It is like back in the when the 200 series benched well. But newer cards gave the same score but performance was higher. Only timespy I think is valid enough for now although it’s only dx12.
Like firestrike graphics score ties with 1070. But in reality it’s not on par. Timespy shows the difference that it’s somewhat ahead which is why I was trying to get peoples real time FPS to gauge the difference better.


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I wish more reviewers used more actual games. Especially games like BF5 and Metro Exodus, both of which can utilize all features of latest RTX GPUs. As well as perhaps some MMORPG games, like FFXIV (it's still pretty popular, has excellent multithreading scaling across extra CPU cores and has benchmarking tool) and something like Black Desert Online (which has most modern graphics out of all MMO games) and whatever other future MMOs might come out soon.

Not everyone buys gaming laptop to play Fortnite or measure their e-penis online using 3DMark results ;-)

 

How big is the screen on the Fifteen inch with Thin Bezel design? Like bigger than fifteen inches to start but in a fifteen inch form factor?

Can I install larger NVMe drives like a 1tb or even 2tb?

 

More like 15.6" in a 14" form factor. The back sticks out a little bit but not bad by any stretch of the imagination. You can definitely fit a larger NVMe drive without problem. Really easy to switch out too; Lenovo made it easy to gain access to its innards. I added a WD Blue 500 GB to mine and it was easy.

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So what would be a good case for this I have my travel bag but for carrying around home or office and storage.

A pocket for the brick being a plus.

 

Great review. Why are the boost clocks so low? I have a full 2070 and the clocks are always between 1600-1800

 

Another review from a polish website: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=https://www.mobimaniak.pl/296386/lenovo-legion-y740-test/

 

It boosts up to 1830 at max, but averages around 1350+ in bf v. Seems to be TDP Limit (the 2080 max-q in here is the 80W version of it, maybe a 90W version would boost higher).
Its definitely not temperature limited.
According to notebookcheck ( https://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2070-Max-Q-Graphics-Card.386281.0.html ) the regular 2070 has a 115W TDP, whereas the 2080 max-q used in the Y740 only has a 80W limit.

 

One would think that the max q would be a premium card that performed at the same speeds, but using less power. I’m not quite sure what the point is of the max q otherwise. I’m never seeing less than 1600 clock and my temps don’t go past 70C.

What frame rates are you getting in the first single player mission? RTX is destroying my FPS. Also gpuz shows my GPU memory clock always at 1900mhz. Does this mean that is my bottleneck? Should I OC it?

 

Biggest thing I want to see in next gen series is a 90W RTX 2080MQ in the 15” model.
The chassis can easily handle it , next probably battery life and a better keyboard layout.
17” version thinner bezels for a more compact footprint like other new 17” laptops and of course better battery life and same 90W GPU upgrade.
Call the Legion Ultra line.

 

So wait is this like cars and the 2020 models come out in 2019?

 

Well, just looking at price to performance ratio, the max-q cards of course are worse than max-p. But just taking performance to consideration, everybody should build his own desktop pc
What 2070 laptop do you have?
The 2080 max-q is more or less on par with the 2070 max-p, having 35w lower TDP and therefore the max-q version can be put into a smaller chassis and being cooled easier.
Raytracing just uses up much performance, I personally have not tried rtx neither single player in BF V.
And raytracing in multiplayer is a bit "unnecessary" to me - i prefer having almost 100fps steady with ultra settings and use the high refreshrate of the screen than having my fps cut in half for some additional graphics effects .
So long story short, max-q is for those who dont mind paying a bit more for having better portability, less power consumtion and a quieter system, whereas the max-p gpus are for those who seek best performance at better value.
I just would have liked to see the 90W 2080 max-q in my legion, as the cooling system really works like a charm

 

I believe scarlettfevever has the Clevo PB70ED-G / PB71ED-G .
It’s a pretty slick laptop

 

So what is the key feel on this laptop? I was able to try out one of the older Legion y730s at a Best Buy and they felt alright to me.

Is there any substantial difference in this model?

 

I have the PB71EF-G, I was agonizing between that and this with the 2080, but the shipment delay made my decision for me. I agree that this model should’ve had the 90W variant due to the cooling.

I guess the grass is always greener but the clevo is actually a great laptop too, really underrated and there isn’t a single YouTube video online from a reviewer. Having said that, the 2080mq y740 is also an amazing deal of you get a good discount and the fan noise is a huge selling point

 

I’m down for whatever they do this so long as they do not add a numpad and keep the dedicated mouse buttons.
If not then the y740 is my last Which is a shame cos as soon as I find a product I like they changed it.
And Lenovo know what happens when they removed the dedicated buttons from the touchpad in thinkpads. People stoped buying them and a petition happened to bring them back...which they did.


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Unfortunately, I feel like hardware Canucks has just started shilling the past few months. There's been a concerning huge push from China to invite new media influencers over there and then push Chinese OEM devices, especially Huawei (though that's a bit off topic) to Western audiences.

 

But when? They just released the y740s that and they are jerking the pricing all over the place for months now.

They just did an upswing Monday.

 

How is the keyboard on the Y740? Aside from generally positive reviews I see alot of criticism of the keystrokes feeling short and soft. Is it really unpleasant to use on both models? I've ordered a 17".

 

I havent owned a mechanical keyboard so far, so i cant compare it to one of those, but it feels solid.
Gaming is good, and even typing some longer texts are no problem at all.
The keys feel responsive, i have not had the feeling of keys not being recognized, it works well.
Of course, competitors may have better keyboards, but those laptops are often thicker than the y740.
I wouldnt be worried about the keyboard at all, the biggest problem of the Y740 17inch is the backlight bleed tbh.

 

How's the back lighting issue on the 15 inch?

 

Supposedly less. But hopefully they’re resolving this and that’s part of the reason for the delay.

 

Heck if it takes longer for tighter QC then that is fine.

So as was talked about before while it doesn't need replacing their special Ultramarine Muck has anyone found out what that is or better off swapping it for Grizzly when the time comes.

Also how long would that usually be before a repaste?

 

Their stock paste should last for at least as long as their warranty, probably more. Would be interesting to compare thermal performance after a couple of years or so.

 

Think they'll have 500 nits panels by end of April?

Because the report of below 300 panels on review units is concerning. Hoping those are off the older batch and Bob of all trades unit is at least starting to be the common example