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    Lenovo Legion Y740 17" 15"

    Discussion in 'Lenovo' started by victorgm, Jan 30, 2019.

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    Nice! I just ordered a few hours ago so I don’t expect to know till Wednesday.

    What spec did you order?
     
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    Mine says March 4 on Lenovo's site even though UPS reports Feb 27 delivery.

    The Lenovo site has been very unreliable in terms of expected delivery dates. I cancelled 2 orders - both shipped right after I did so, after weeks sitting in queue.

    Peter
     
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    I got the 2060+512gb ssd for $1399 with the student discount.
     
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    Ok good then we can compare thermals

    I will likely repaste this with Kryonaut then LM if necessary.
     
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  5. Naeem Chandani

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    Since you’ve reviewed the y730, how would you compare the build quality and feel of the chassis compared to something like a Razer Blade or msi gs65
     
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    The Blades exterior build quality it top notch. Excellent fit and finish.

    I would place the Y730 next, as the GS65 needed thicker metal in my opinion. MSI wanted light weight and in my opinion, they pushed a bit too far.

    Cooling on the Y730 is better than either one and the Lenovo is also much easier to work on.

    It just needs a bigger battery. The 57whr is so 2017.
     
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  7. Naeem Chandani

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    I just returned my mercury white blade with the 2060 and it still gets warm like the 1060 and 1070 blade I had last year. It’s a few degrees cooler though. The msi gs65 I didn’t like because of the creaking and flimsy body. So I’m really looking forward to this laptop!
     
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    Ordered the most expensive 15" pre-configuration (with the 2070) on the 20th, and it was shipped today on the 25th, within 3 business days excluding the weekends of course. Says it will arrive on march 1st within the same week. Ships from the US warehouse to here in Canada.

    The 2070 max-q with the rough benchmarks performs on par or better than the higher power 2070 max q in the razer blade advanced models. Nice to see because I don't really want to see the 2070 max q chip performing like the thermally restrained one on the new aero 15. The "coldfront" cooling improvement by 15% over the y730 I hope makes a difference with regards to the temps. The videos I've seen have the cpu reaching 85c with the gpu on the 70s, and with undervolting the cpu stays at mid 70s under load (believe I heard this from the earlier review on the 2080 17 inch variant by Phiking).

    It is indeed a bit sad that lenovo didn't pursue the 90+wh size battery configurations that forgoes the 2.5 drive bay just like the new dell g series does. If battery life isn't a major concern, however, the y740 is basically a better built, better cooled competitor to the g series. Never seen a similar spec'd laptop in this price range with the glorious metal construction throughout, and aside from the legion branding, everything else is very nice and professional I suppose.

    The g series was what I was trying to purchase but I decided to hold off until ownordisown's video, and when I saw the lack of fan control and the 100c cpu temperatures I knew right away that I'd purchase the y740.
     
  9. OWNORDISOWN

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    Yeah, that G5 isn't too good. The 60hz panel is only 63% sRGB, no backlight bleed though. It's going back. I ordered the 17" Y740 a couple of days ago with the 2080 MQ. Seems good value. Was hoping to get a review unit but they totally ignore me and Bob.
     
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    Mine says it will arrive APRIL 16 shipping APRIL 9. Ordered FEB 22


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  11. Richard Zheng

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    Just a quick question. Some folks on do Liquid metal on either the CPU or GPU only (usually CPU), despite having a unified heatsink design. Any reason for this then?
     
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    Still can’t see why you can’t game in HDR when it specifically promotes it. Ad quoted directly from the Y740 Lenovo page.

    “Your eyes deserve Dolby
    Don't just look at your favorite games—be truly moved by them. Software enabled Dolby Vision™ HDR transforms your gaming experience on the Legion Y740 with ultravivid imaging—incredible brightness, contrast, and color that bring your favorite gaming titles to life before your eyes. It achieves this astonishing image quality through cinema-inspired HDR technology that can deliver billions of colors to your laptop wherever you are. The result is a refined, lifelike image that will make you forget you are looking at a screen.”
     
  13. Kalen

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    While I know that this does have software-enabled HDR (currently supporting streaming only), I believe the full Dolby Vision HDR will be available on the future IPS panel (the 500 nit version that was alluded to) as it specifically mentions brightness and says "Optional Dolby Vision HDR transforms your gaming experience" which implies that it will be an option in the future (if you select the HDR 500 nit display which is not currently an option). I know, a little misleading as there currently are no options for display but I know that's what they are getting at. Perhaps they will enable it via a software update but as was pointed out previously, that was never done by Dell on the Alienware 13 OLED display, so I wouldn't hold my breath.

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    Yeah but they don’t mention that it’s exclusive to that specific panel.
    It would be nice if they enabled it for gaming, it’s really one of the selling features to me on this laptop.
    Not to familiar with HDR screens but do they need a certain brightness level to be effective?
     
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    My laptop shipped out last night, UPS estimated Friday March 1st delivery, I’ve gamed on HDR displays and usually prefer it off
     
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    Just found this thread, thought I was the only one playing the waiting game. I ordered mine on Feb 13th when the site said 5-7 days to ship for custom configs, a few days later my ship date estimate slid to March 31 with delivery on April 5. Just got an email last week on Friday that says it will ship within the next 30 days but ship date still says March 31. Really hoping that it ships sooner, I really need it for a conference that I leave for on April 2nd, not holding my breath though. I'm upgrading from a Toshiba Satellite with a core i3-4025U and Intel HD 8086 graphics, have not had a desktop since the R7770 was relevant, I hope I notice an improvement in gaming...

    My Ordered Config
    Display: 15.6FHD IPS AG 300N 144 N
    Processor: Core i7-8750H 2.2G 6C MB
    Graphics: RTX2070 8GB G6 256b MAXQ
    Memory: 16GB(8+8) DDR4 2666 SoDIMM
    Storage: 1TB HD 7200RPM 2.5 7mm
    Second Storage: 512GB M.2 2280 NVMe TLC
     
  17. IKAS V

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    Fantastic.
    What I like to see is companies keeping there own promises, that they put in there own product description.
     
  18. Anton_Kh

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    Why don’t you get preconfigured model with 2070? They have them in stock and it ships same business day from US warehouse. It’s almost identical to your build, just swap an ssd later on.
     
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  19. Richard Zheng

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    2070 doesn't seem as good of a value, also 2060 is the easiest to cool
     
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    Thats a good idea, when I originally ordered the the custom config the pre-configs were not available, I hadn't noticed that they were back in stock now. Ill have to think about that.

    Thats also a going point, but I was going for the 2070 because I am interested in VR and figured that I could use every extra fps I could get. Also I got a military discount from my dad so I'm getting the 2070 for what I planned on spending on the 2060.
     
  21. Richard Zheng

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    That is fair enough. But for raw bang/buck, the 2060 is indeed the better choice. I am not sure how the cooling system will handle the extra heat... You would probably trade some CPU clock speeds OR higher temps.
     
  22. Naeem Chandani

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    My updated eta is now Thursday, but with this crap weather in Texas I don’t know if it will be here
     
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    Mine shows up Thursday as well. Can't wait to see how it compares to my Alienware 15 R3 with full overclocked GTX 1070. I have a feeling the 2070 Max-Q will be a marginal upgrade (until drivers are better) but in a package that's much smaller.

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    Yup I’m Thursday also.
     
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    I’m in the same boat as you. Only I could of bought the y740 before they was pulled off the site. So I bought an aw15 r4 with 1070 for a bit till 9th gen since I owned an r3 like yours a year ago.
    but I want exactly the same things from you. Smaller and even designed like one.

    Can’t wait to hear about the 2070. That’s what I’d of ordered as well.


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    Last edited: Feb 27, 2019
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    I prefer the aesthetic of the 15" with small bezels and didn't want a 16 percent bigger unit for a 10 percent bigger screen. The 15" maxes out with the 2070 Max-Q and the 17" with the 2080 Max-Q was also a whole lot more expensive.

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    I totally get getting the best value for your money but the performance boost over the 2060 is pretty significant.
    I’m not one to buy a new laptop every year and I try to make them last so to me getting a better GPU helps make it a bit more future proof.
     
  29. Naeem Chandani

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    I have a rtx 2070 max performance Asus scar 2 laptop right now and it performs maybe 10% better than the rtx 2060 max P in my Razer Blade 15
     
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    Totally get that. I just wanted the 15" compact form factor and the max you can get with that is the 2070 Max-Q. I did a few calculations and even with my military discount it still would have cost me a total of $620 more than the 15 with 2070 Max-Q. That is way more and not worth it to me.

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    Wish I could do the military discount but I never served in the USA, anyway you can share? .......lol
    @B0B
    Any particular reason besides getting a pretty good discount you are looking to make this model your daily driver?
    Hope you do a review.
     
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    Wish I could but I appreciate what Lenovo is offering here; I don't want to jeopardize their generosity by exploiting it and potentially ruining it for every other serving member. Sorry.

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    Here a video I found. Tear down and mentions detailed review soon.




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    I was just kidding by the way ;)
    Will be looking forward to hear some pros and cons for your laptop when you get it though.
     
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    I despise Nvidia Optimus technology. It makes the laptop harder to use for me for starters.

    I also like TB3 to transfer files extremely fast with an external NVMe enclosure.

    I personally don’t need exceptional battery life although Lenovo better fix this on their next generation. Aside from those things, this seems to be the cheapest version of that solution with RTX inside.
     
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    Would you say the build quality is comparable to say the last gen Alienwares? Ex. 13r3
     
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    Coming from an AW13 OLED, probably not quite.

    I have to give credit where credit is due and that specific Alienware laptop is remarkable. But I’ll take delivery of the Y740 tomorrow and I have reviewed the Y730. Overall it’s a well above average built machine.
     
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    Seems like the only con every review of the Y730-740 is battery life. I pray I win the silicon lottery and get a display with minimal backlight bleed
     
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    I’m not sure why they didn’t justo on the battery bandwagon.

    80whr would be nice.

    Hoping this has a MUX but just gsync is fine with me too.
     
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    I would trade that 2.5” slot for a larger battery any day
     
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    Apparently, you can swap between Gsync and hybrid, but I can't confirm. I can understand wanting a 2.5 inch bay (for cheap game storage), so I guess the battery life is worth it. I wish they did the same thing as Tongfang/Dell where you can remove the bay and put in a bigger battery
     
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    Or offer an option to select either on purchase, so you can get the specs that you need
     
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    Have you guys watched this review? This guy posted it today
     
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    Hmm perhaps he got a lemon?... So long as the weather doesn't get any worse than it was today, I should have my laptop tomorrow and will compare it side-by-side with my 1070 Alienware.

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    He showed his voltages. I've yet to deal with a laptop equipped with a i7-8750h that doesn't throttle stock. If it isn't thermal it will be power limit. While he may have a lemon, we can't really say without seeing if he at least followed b0b's i7-8750h video. That video is idiot proof and will keep the thermals down.

    I'm on the Area-51m right now and comparing it with the y740 17". I'm likely returning both and going for the 15" with 2060 or 2070 depending on what deals I can get, but I don't want to speak too soon as this weekend I'll be putting these through the gauntlet.
     
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    For sure! Let us know how it is! I know it's likely a beast but it should be given its massive size. Was excited when they announced that one at CES but was a little disappointed in the fact that the GPU was proprietary and therefore not really upgradable like they said.

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    Compared to the y740 it really isn't that big. It is a bit more thick and the "ass" behind the monitor sticks out more than the y740, but overall the laptop is slightly less wide than the y740. They also do a lot more with less space on the keyboard - 10 dedicated macro buttons and bigger keys throughout so it covers the entire face (width wise). Wheras the y740 17" has a ton of dead space and huge bezels. Honestly, between the 17" y740 and Area-51m, there really is no competition. The 2080MQ is a total disappointment as well. It basically becomes about "is RTX worth it at all and is the Area-51m worth the upgraded price tag over the 15" y740?" To which I'm still debating. Such different products, but I question the validity of the Area-51m at all... You could buy a y740 15" with 2060 and a desktop with a 2080 ti for the price of the Area-51m.

    Just some musings. I'll try to put something more coherent together, but I also have 4 papers due and a midterm next week!

    Edit:
    I saw some discussion about battery options. The user manual shows on page 13 that the 15" has the option between:
    – 57 Wh
    – 3 Cells
    or
    – 76 Wh
    – 4 Cells

    The 17" comes standard with the 4 cell battery. Under the configurator for the 15", I see no option to select a different battery. It would be absolutely no surprise to me that when the Intel 9th gen refresh hits, we'll also have different battery and screen options. Seems to me that delayed gratification may pay off.

    For people who already have the 15", please let us know what battery you have.
     
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2019
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    Ready for this laptop to get delivered and set up!
     
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