Lenovo Legion Y740 17" 15"

I can live with turning a setting or two down to maintain my preferred level of performance. 60 series GPUs suite me because I have no issue making these small adjustments versus justifying the premium asked for a 2070mq.

 

Honestly the only thing great about the 70/80 cards is the Vram headroom to crank up resolution/quality settings

 

Good luck! I ordered mine last time it was available in Sweden on the 14th. After said 7 days I got a mail saying they didn't know when it would ship. Two weeks after ordering I asked if they still didn't know the shipping date and they told me "maybe 31th of march". Then I cancelled. But perhaps the reappearance in the online shop means Lenovo is catching up. It will be interesting to see when you receive yours.

 

Testing out The Division 2 beta today. UNDERVOLT of -.140 and max fans,, all settings turned to ultra and I’m getting 50-60fps with CPU temp at 75 and GPU at 66

 

I ordered a Lenovo y740 17inch at their website but canceled it after receiving message of 6 weeks delay. Ordered a custom build with 2070maxq, 512ssd and 32ram. Now I bought one in the local shop (Netherlands) with 2070maxq, 512ssd and 16ram. Ill upgrade it to 32ram next month. I use it for work and went for the 2070maxq because of the extra vram. 8gb instead of the 6gb on the 2060. I use Civil 3D and InfraWorks. Not interested in Quadro's because they don't add anything I need but that's another story. Worked years with Quadro's and GTX cards and they both crash just as often.

Anyway, the Lenovo y740 is a great laptop. It's pretty well build with little flex to the display. Colors are great and the screen is rocksteady at 144 Hz. I did find it a bit dark at 50% brightness and set it to 60% brightness. Compared to my old MSI GT72 its a much better looking laptop. Weight is about the same, so yes, its a heavy laptop due to materials used. I don't mind because I walk to my car or to the office after parking. But it may be a bit heavy when traveling by train or bus.

Performance wise it blows my old 980m out of the water. Its twice as fast in benchmarks like 3DMark and I really notice it during work. But not alone faster, its much more quiet to. My old GT72 was really loud and I think the Lenovo is half as loud. As for the loudness of the Lenovo itself, during normal use you don't hear it. It only gets louder, but not as loud as the GT72, when the proc is used at 100%. I'm very happy with that.

But its not all perfect. Sound wise its a bit of a let down. Sure its sounds crispy but nowhere as great as my old GT72 which has much more base. The MSI sounded balanced and could fill the room. The Lenovo sounds shallow.
The numpad is awkward to, but maybe because I'm used to the excellent keyboard on the GT72. On the Lenovo the numpad is to the top of the keyboard, so night right side but right top side. I'm pressing 4, 5 and 6 instead of 7, 8 and 9. But I guess that's because I used the MSI for 4 years. I also miss the second 'enter' key at the numpad.

The first one I bought at the shop had a weird thing though. When opening a window about 4 or 5 pixels at camera height turned white. When moving the window they showed right color again. But when done dragging they turned white again. Closing the window made it disappear again. Went back to the shop and got a new one. As for backlight bleed, there isn't any.

 

Can anyone do a battery test on optimus mode? Thanks

 

Ok. So I finally got my y740 rtx2070 max q with 16 gb ram and 256 see 1tb hdd.
I live in Australia and I ordered it on Tuesday, arrived at my office on Friday. The night before it arrived I watched that terrible review from that Swedish guy on YouTube and thought oh man please let it just be him as unfortunate as that it.
Ladies and gents, it was just him.
This thing performs unlike any laptop in its calibre. A little undervolting the the i7 according to bobs video (It's the 850 something not at home and very early in the morning so my brain don't think no good right now) and the thermals along with the fps on games like anthem, bfv and insurgency sandstorm (All I've gotten to download so far) is out of this world. I run ultra on everything but anthem, anthem set to high because the optimisation is garbage (the singleplayer offline tutorial portion I played ultra and was above 70fps for most of it with only twice dipping into the high 50's but once the open world multiplayer part sets in and your on some random server the frames are all over the place but that's not the computers fault that's just a bad game. Thermals stay in the 70s Rarely going to low 80s, thats for the cpu, gpu was incredibly cool at 60.

Bfv ran butter smooth on dx11, a little bit sporadic on dx12, Ray tracing really smacks the crap out of this thing and I don't recommend it personally. Frames were in the 90s with a median average of 77 I'd say, when a lot of buildings are blowing up it can suddenly drop but I think that's again EA and their just really great and not at all complete garbage servers. Thermals stay in the low 70s on cpu Lower on gpu.

I benchmarked time Spy and firestrike (standard not extreme) and according to all other 2070 max q results on notebook review (is that the one that has the really good benchmarks and testing scores for all gpus? Cant remember too tired from gaming all night )
So according to those scores against the aero and the Razer blade all the other 2070 max q's my y740 crushes them.
15993 on fire strike, 3000 more then my alienware 1070 r3.
Time spy was 6921, very good for this you, undervolting is king!

And the light bleed, it exists but what did you expect guys its a thin and I mean THIN 144hz 300nits display on an aluminum chassis, it exists but not as bad as people are saying at least not for me.

Just wanna thank everyone here also, there are no reviews that are any good out there except the one on YouTube about the 2080 version but there are zero reviews about this 2070 thing with benchmarks and stuff. Had to come here just to get info so only right i maKe an account and report my findings in thanks.

Peace yall

 

I’ll say this is one of few laptops that I bought for review that I wasn’t thinking about when to sell it and cover the next project.

I have to keep this one a bit.

^^^ My review Aero 2070mq hits low-mid 16k Firestrike with ease, no tweaks.
This y740 with a 2060 hit low 15k. Pretty close!

 

I love your vids dude thanks for all your work!

 

Hi guys! thanks for the reviews! happy to hear some good reports of the Y740!

Im doubting if going for it or not...as an architect, I thought on going for the Y740 17", and today in Germany there are -150€ discounts!

The RTX2060+256GB SSD costs 1800€ (normal price 1950€), while the RTX2070+1TB+256GB SSD (without OS) costs 1850€! (np 2000€)

On the other side, the 15" with RTX2060+256GB SSD costs 1790€ (1940€) and the RTX2070+512GB SSD costs 2030€ (2230€)

Is it not the price of the 17" RTX2070 worth it? just 50€ more than the RTX2060 and cheaper than the 15"....my main doubt is that it will take 4 weeks to be delivered...I could wait, but the question is if it would be better to wait until April/May to know if the Y740 will be updated with the new i7-9750H....what do you think? could it offer a better performance with less heat? will the price be much higher?

Last questions for the 17" owners: have you checked how long last the battery without GSYNC?

Many thanks!

 

Holy cow. That is a close result. I am interested in how that pans out in real workloads like gaming, video editing, blender and other tasks

 

Is that new AI software a gimmick or does it actually work like its suppose to

 

It's not for people who are capable and care about tuning their own machine. I completely understand what gigabyte is thinking here. It's not for me but I get who it's for. If that makes sense.

My video is going to talk about Gigabytes mindset on the AI and how this could potentially improve the user experience from the consumer who just plugs and plays. That's the strong majority, At about 80%

 

So kinda like automatic tuning, but worse? I was really hoping automatic undervolting + power management would make it's way to laptops, but doesn't seem like it for now

 

This is a HUGH undertaking for Gigabyte. While what you seek is definitely possible, it's probably unreasonable to expect this now. But, as data fills their servers fingers crossed we get there soon. Gigabyte has a head start on the competition here.

I want to be in a place where I can help those responsible for the AI solution and guide their sails to speed this process up. I'm literally skyping with my contact at Gigabyte as I type this. I'm doing my best out of nothing more than getting myself out there.

 

Gigabyte has a lead, but who knows what they will do with it? I hope their development turns this AI gimmick into a serious selling point soon! Having an experienced laptop guy on their team would probably be good for them

 

So i am not a youtuber but it drove me crazy there were no video reviews of the 2070 version of this so I have had a crack at it myself. uploading now. be gentle with me, I barely know what the hell I am talking about with some stuff I just wanted to get something out there on this model. uploading now.

 

Don't worry pal! Just talk about whatever you know and share anything you know.

 

Here is my try at a video review. I know, there are a billion things i forgot to add like battery and memory clocks and stuff but i did this for fun. enjoy. (warning contains swearing for those who don't like that kind of thing)

 

A few things. Nobody cares about ram speeds if it isn't an APU. Also, the last gen devices were in fact covered and this gen is mostly a spec refresh, so that would obviously attract less attention than a redesign. Overall a solid review, I wish there was a teardown

 

Well that explains a lot for me on the re spec, I never actually looked into the legion line seriously before until now so when these popped up I was like whoa that seemed out of nowhere. Thanks for the critique

 

Wow you Aussies pay way more than anyone else.
Decent review, glad you did it but wish you highlighted and shown the laptop more and rambled a little less, saying that you did a much better job than I would have done so kudos to that.

So just to double check the RTX 2070MQ performs better than the GTX 1070 in your AW 15?
How much better? 5 or 10 percent?
Anyone know if the RTX 2080MQ is coming to the 15” model?
It has proven it has a very good cooling system.

 

Lenovo Legion Y740 15 RTX 2060 Review

 

When you did this bench mark. Was you looking at the big score that comes up on the screen or did you get the “graphics score” in the tiny numbers on the benchmark?
If you look back in your document you’ll see the benchmarks you ran in the 3dmark folder.
Could you up a pic of firestrike and timespy please because it really looks like you got the general score.


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Nope these are the actual results. Graphics scores were higher then average also.

 

That's always been the case with any and all imported electronics pretty much. Also with games, it sucks but we are used to it at this point.
I would say 10 per cent with the undervolt, 5 without. thats just frames, with cooling in general without the undervolt its about a 15-20 per cent upgrade.

apologies for the rambling, first time ever making a video, will try be more professional next time.

 

See. This is where fire strikes got to that stage where it’s showing it’s age. The graphic score equals what I get in firestrike, yet in timespy it’s miles apart (7000 for the 2070 mq vs 5600 for the 1070) where it shows where the difference lies.
Even if you had oc it when tested. It wouldn’t of differed that much. As 6700 was the best score I seen for it till yours came through.
Nevertheless, thanks for that. Eventually my aw15 r4 will succumb to the y740


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I got my 17'' 2070maxq yesterday.
Today I ran the usersbenchmark and got 98.2% cpu score and 110% gpu score, which is more than amazing.
I did 125mv cpu undervolting, didn't risk overclocking.

 

Can I ask those with 15" and 2070 max q models how the idle temperatures are for theirs? The defective unit was idling at 50c-60c for me, and that was less than ideal.

 

How about the 17" screen? Does it wiggle a lot?

 

Any backlight screen bleeding on your laptop? Not ordering until I’m sure the problem has been addressed.

 

On idle with bobs cpu undervolt and fans on turbo which I leave on, I get 30 to low 40s.

 

3 questions already (gathering the previous ones)

- How about the 17" screen? Does it wiggle a lot?
- Any backlight screen bleeding on your laptop?
- How long does the battery last while watching a movie without GSYNC? have you tried it?

Many thanks!!

 

I’m getting great results top to bottom on this machine with the exception of battery life, but to be expected with its 57whr battery.

At idle temps are 30-50 depending on what the machine was doing last. For example has it been performing basic tasks or did I just come off a game.

It’s also the most consistently quite gaming laptop at idle I have tested on the channel to date.

Thermally bone stock the GPU rarely hits mid 70’s. Usually 68-71c. The CPU runs HARD and pulls strong wattage eventually leveling out at around 60w. Temps will under control here more on this in the review. Max fan speed in a 20 min handbrake encode the CPU was in the 70’s. I have NOT tweaked anything yet even at the time of this post.

I have so much more to say and it’s mostly good to great.

Lenovo priced this fair considering the competition. It’s a somewhat elegant looking device that’s suited to the gamer first.

I find machines that dedicate themselves to the performance standards of the enthusiast crowd tend to do well at nearly everything else.

I’m not trying to fanboy this laptop but it’s definitely pulling me away from the Aero 15 right now and that is saying something as that laptop in my mind is the Jack Of All Trades.

 

Nice to hear that! we're all expecting your review

I think i will buy mine today in Germany, as there is a -150€/-200€ promotion! Im still doubting between 15 and 17, and RTX2060 or RTX2070 MaxQ, all versions with 512GB SSD and no OS (already have one key). Prices for a custom one including discount are:

15 with RTX2060 = 1710€
17 with RTX2060 = 1730€
15 with RTX2070 MaxQ = 1890€
17 with RTX2070 MaxQ = 1910€

I think i will go for the 17 (as an architect a bigger screen is always helpful), but what do you think about the 180€ difference between the RTX2060 and RTX2070? I do expect this laptop to last 4-5 years with decent graphic power but im not a heavy gamer (sometimes I play Assassins Creed Odyssey, Fifa, BFV, Planet Coaster or Total War). I do use it for CAD software, Photoshop, some Gopro videos with Premiere and some occasional renderings with Vray.

Should the extra VRAM make a real difference in the next years both for gaming and working? will the performance of the RTX2070 be increased with new drivers and make a higher difference to the RTX2060?

I would be grateful if you could share me your opinion

Many thanks!!

 

Are Max fan speeds obnoxiously loud like in most laptops?
One thing I hate is overly loud fans but from what I’ve seen so far even with the auto fan profile in use everything still runs relatively cool, and if you raise the back end or use a laptop cooler should have much better temps.
@B0B
Have you tried over clocking the GPU yet ?
Waiting very patiently for your review, love your channel bro!

 

Order using shoop.de and you will get 10% cashback + 25€ coupon.

 

I got myself a cursed laptop then, gpu is fried, and it idles around 60c even with turbo boost turned off therefore 2.20ghz being the max clock. The thing is only running by its cpu now, after I loaded a recovery image from lenovo's website and disabled the 2070 from the device manager (which was already disabled automatically because it was reporting problems to windows).

Before the gpu fried the idle temps were identical. During games it would sometimes reach 95c as well. Botched thermal paste job, so even more shame.



https://streamable.com/ibiks

This is the video on my 15 inch for the bouncy hinge by the way, I don't really put much force into opening and closing the lid, and if I let it go without holding my hand steady it will flap back and forth for a little before settling. Doesn't happen on a macbook, is all I can say haha. Doesn't bother me at all though.

At the moment I'm just trying to gather as much data as I can on this rtx-less laptop so I can make comparisons with the replacement that is to come later this week. lmao

 

Anyone notice a degradation in their fps? I was getting much better than my 1070 before and now it's pretty well the exact same? Didn't do anything different but Apex Legends was 121 fps average yesterday, now 103. Same thing in Witcher 3. Same settings.

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To maximize Apex performance for consistency you’ll need the last driver package from 2018. This fix had been reported by many who have been playing this for a living. This seems only relevant to RTX users.

Respawn knows this and is trying to get it fixed ASAP.

It sucks but it’s well known should you look around for clarification.

 

Thanks for this! Was worried something had happened but I figured it had to be a software thing.

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Do you mean the hinge?
It's not perfectly solid, but I can't say it wiggles a lot. It's not a problem for me.

 

Yes, it has bleeding, not severe, but still a fair amount.
Not a big problem for me. It's indeed a little bit annoying when looking at a black screen at maximum brightness, but it's ok if I reduce the brightness to 2/3, and I can hardly notice anything if not a black screen.

 

Thanks for the tip! sadly i saw it too late and there is just 3% now...do you know how often do they offer it? does it work if I pay the laptop with the 12 months credit of Lenovo?

 

The first two question answered.
I didn't try the battery yet, because I'm pretty used to carry this size laptop around together with its brick-like power supply lol.
I'm very happy with the professional looking and the solid aluminum chassis.

 

The max fan is as loud as anything.

 

Except the bleeding issue I mentioned above, there's another thing make me a little unhappy.
The 3.1 gen 2 USB port is not secured. I use an external USB DAC for audio. The DAC can't play music for minutes if I don't plug in the USB cable with a correct angle relative to the port. Yes the cable has some degree of freedom to move when plugged in. The DAC functions well on the other two USB ports.

 

I will say this is defective, and should be considering replacement.

 

Probably you are right, but I'm not going to ask for a replacement.

 

I guess the payment method does not matter but do not expect 10% to appear again for the next months.