Lenovo Legion Y740 17" 15"

Hey Bob, so I tried rolling back the drivers and went to 417.98 but still had the same fps. Decided to quit trying and went back to the new drivers. This morning tried fresh, back to extremely good fps and 15-20 more than the 1070. I believe that even though the temps were good (Max temp was 88), the laptop was getting heat soaked. Fresh made big difference. Same fps issue with Anthem. Gaming more than 2 hours will put a damper on things slightly. Realistically the degradation puts it at the same level as the 1070 which is not necessarily a bad thing

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@Kalen
Do you use max fans? Undervolt? Or try using a laptop cooler?

 

I have the back raised and undervolt applied. Haven't played with the fan settings because I don't know where to locate those settings (can't find it in the Lenovo Vantage software and don't know what the button is to apply max fans)

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Press fn+q or ctrl+shift+1 for max fan mode.

Ps it doenst make that much noise, far less noise then my msi gt72 and not louder then my first gen PS4 pro. Im very happy with the sound level of the fans.

Edited quiet to noise. Wrote it wrong, aint english

 

Agreed. My previous Alienware 15 R3 was at least twice as loud; that thing could be heard downstairs when it turned on.

 

I was going to cancel my order as suggested, but when I checked the next day, all of the prebuilt options were out of stock. I decided to keep my custom config order from 2/13 and now my ship date has been moved up from 3/31 to 3/20 so thats good. Just trying to be patient. Im hoping that it gets slid closer again but again not holding my breath.

 

Ya my second order (with the 2060) was supposed to ship 3/31 but ended up shipping today.

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I had the exact same laptop and going from that to this is crazy. More performance, slimmer and at least twice as quiet. You could hear my AW 15 R3 in other rooms of my house. With the y740 2070 15 I hear the fans but nowhere near enough that it bothers me.

 

I managed to buy the RTX 2080 MQ version of this laptop literally 20 minutes before the sale ended....Wow! Saved about $500 CAD without a military/student discount.

I was thinking about downgrading to the 15" 2060 or 2070 but I am really on the fence. It feels like the 2060/2070 are just slightly underpowered while the 2080 is a little overpowered/overpriced.

I feel like I'd rather have more power than I need than less and need to upgrade again in the near future. The only thing I care about is FPS and cooling in games.

 

I’ve been blessed with testing the following RTX cards.

2080
2080mq
2070mq
2060

All with FHD 144hz displays.

Generally speaking this resolution and frame rate goal is going to put us heavily CPU and memory speed bottlenecked.

This made the 2080 combined with an overclocked i9 at 4.7 a sick combo.

But that’s not the “norm”.

This STOCK y740 2060 happily trades blows with the heavily tuned Aero 2070MQ

Make no mistake, the Aero is my love as it does all things quite well.

But when it comes to fire and forget gaming bliss while nipping at the heals of a 2070mq...and my only sacrifice is battery life (a big deal still) the y740 at my particular spec makes me excited as if I just started gaming on a laptop for the first time.

 

Thanks Bob! Definitely will take that into consideration. My order doesn't ship for 3 weeks so I will do a bit more research into 2060 gaming benchmarks to see if that will be sufficient after all....Who knew buying a gaming laptop would be such a stressful decision

 

I have to say after owning the rtx 2060 Razer Blade and the rtx 2070 Asus scar 2, the Y740 is still my favorite even if it’s not the coolest looking gaming laptop. The performance to price ratio is unbeatable and the GSync feature seals the deal! I can crank up all the settings on all new games and still experience no screen tear along with thermals well under 80 on the cpu and around 70 on the GPU with UNDERVOLT and max fans. I just wish the battery lasted longer and the power adapter was smaller. This is killing the portability function of this laptop a great amount

 

Bingo!!

 

*UPDATE*


Just played a 64 player game on BFV on the Rotterdam map with 150% resolution scale and all settings on Ultra (DXR off) getting 60 FPS avg with CPU at 75 and GPU at 65. I honestly can’t believe it

 

Overall would you guys reckon that the 2060 is comparable to a 1080? Seriously thinking about contacting Lenovo to downgrade my order before it ships

 

So you’ll have both the RTX 2060 and RTX 2070MQ models?
Can you test some games with each on the same exact settings to help those of us unsure what GPU to buy? It would help a lot of people out a lot.
Doesn’t have to be a video or anything just post the results. Thanks.

 

I would say it’s 10% slower than the 1080 laptop spec. The 1080 does a better job at higher resolutions with the extra memory

 

I have ordered a 15inch custom built on Friday but I cannot see any estimated shipping date on my order information page. On Lenovo's website was stated that it will be shipped in 7 working days.

Should the estimated shipping date be there where it says "undefined NaN, NaN" in the screenshot below?

 

I see your order says the color is black while the rest of us received “Iron Grey”. I wonder if that’s a mistake or are custom built units a different color

 

They are sold as "black" in Europe. Just checked the German and the UK site. I guess the European distributor keeps it simple with colours.

 

Anything to suggest the 15 inch model would get updated with the bigger battery option? That's one of the only gripes I have right now. Its going to be a toss up between this the Dell G7 and the alienware m15. Both the Dell and Alienware have the bigger battery, but Alienware is way too expensive. So likely only between the G7 and this one. Waiting to see what the reviews say for G7...

 

I’m interested in the G7 reviews as well

 

I talked to Stephen yesterday as he has the G7 right now. He said it extremely hot, that includes the keyboard. Very uncomfortable to game on at the stage he's at with it as of yesterday. Just a heads up. The M15 isn't exactly the chilly chassis we hoped for either.


PSA
I just repasted the y740, not worth it, changed basically nothing. Unless you can claim a few C at best we're still 66-72c on the GPU and the CPU settles around 80c. Which is legendary considering what else is out there...in my opinion.

GPU stock and the CPU -.125. This really only gave us 200mhz or so versus a temp improvement.

 

I think Lenovo was smart to have such a huge air vent on the bottom, it’s superb!

 

Hi B0B!

could you please short tell me what does this sentence mean? (my english is not that good )

Im still doubting about the RTX2060 and RTX2070 Max-Q for 180€ extra....for some normal gaming (AC Odyssey, Fifa, BFV, Total War, Planet Coaster) and CAD/3D working (Autocad, Rhino, 3DS-Max, Vray, Revit).

Could the RTX2070 Max-Q with the future drivers during the next 4-5 years make a real difference?

You talked about the one in the Aero...but this is the model that delivered "fake" bad results due to heat problems right?

Thanks in advance!

 

Isnt it nice to have 8gb instead of 6gb ram voor CAD and 3dstudio max. I use civil 3D and Infraworks and 8gb vram is recommended. On quadros you always find much vram to versus gtx cards. Nowadays you can pick gtx or rtx cards because they do have much vram and CAD uses direct 3D nowadays instead of OpenGL. Well most of them, solidworks is OpenGL and needs quadro cards. And some more. Revit is direct 3D to i think.

 

If only I would had read your logical answer on sunday...I would have bought the Y740-17 with RTX2070 with the -200€ discount...now i will have to wait until the next discount

Many thanks anyway Bariton! it makes sense 100%!

 

Thanks! That is good to know actually. I figured G7 would be running too hot, plus there is the other issue of the power brick only being 180 Watts, which may not be enough. Agree that the cooling on this machine looks to be amazing compared to other laptops, especially given the price on this.

 

Alright, had some time to do some tests and I'm seeing varying results across the board when comparing the full GTX 1070 against the RTX 2070 Max-Q. I tried to control as many variables as I could and played all games at the same settings. These graphs I made and will be in my review when I finish it along with gameplay footage captured for each.
All-in-all, there is a pretty significant increase in performance from the GTX 1070 to the RTX 2070 Max-Q. Once my 2060 comes on Thursday I'll add to this as well.

 

Did the fan noise get reduced? Maybe it has a target temperature and adjusts the fan rpm to match it (instead of keeping the fan rpm and decreasing the temps)?

 

If I was to buy a new gaming laptop today I would go for the Y740. The thermal-performance and low noise levels are extremely impressive. https://www.notebookcheck.com/Test-...-i7-8750H-RTX-2080-Max-Q-Laptop.411008.0.html

43 dB during intense gaming cpu at 64C and gpu at 71C with on a 2080max-q is very impressive! It`s basically mocking all the opponents which find themselves around 50dB+ at 80C+ temps. The engineers at Lenovo are brilliant!

 

The y740 is not a loud gaming laptop.

All tests done with max fan. It’s the best way to see TIM performance.

 

Wow, I have to say I am very impressed with Lenovo's customer support.

I called to cancel my order and downgrade to a RTX 2060 15", and they ended up offering me an additional $280 CAD off (on top of the 15% I already saved) on my existing order of an RTX 2080 MQ 17".

That means out the door, INCLUDING tax, 3 years premium care w/onsite warranty, and 3 years accidental damage protection, it'd cost me $3169 CAD (~$2375 USD) for a 2080 MQ. That's even cheaper than an MSI GE75 Raider w/ full 2070 would be (what I was originally looking at), WITHOUT thunderbolt 3 and without any extended warranty.

Only downside is my only hard drive is the 512GB SSD, no HDD was available on my customization so I'll need to add it later. Is that fairly easy to do?

Tl;dr - I think they've convinced me to keep my order and go with the 2080 Max Q.

PSA - Even though the sale isn't available on the website, if you call the sales team to negotiate they seem fairly open to it.

 

Thank you for doing this!!!

 

Since this is an Rtx laptop does it qualify for Nvidias Free Game list of Anthem/Battlefield 5/Metro?

 

No, Lenovo is not one of the participating retailers.

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I’ll be getting the y740 2060 on Thursday, should I purchase a laptop cooler or just prop up the back for airflow?

 

What temps are you expecting from this?

 

If anyone is interested, and I am in no way a professional, I updated my website with a review of the 2070 Max-Q Y740 with lots of comparisons to the GTX 1070.
www.gamerdad.ca

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Not sure really, I’ve been more of a desktop builder and have stayed clear of laptops over the years. Now that I’m constantly moving place to place it just seems fitting to get one.

Are laptop coolers even worth a purchase, or can I realistically get a few degrees cooler if I’m going to undervolt and not necessarily run max fans.

 

Read it all and loved it! Great photo with you and your baby too

 

Just ordered my Y740 2060 since they are back in stock now. Killer deal for a 2060 under $1500!

 

Well done! Great review.

 

I've always been wondering about the batteries on these laptops. The G-Sync seems to be destroying the battery life for basically every Y740, at least laptops like the dell g series had optimus that helped them reach closer to 5 hours, but without optimus the Y740 gets more like two hours and a half.

Is there any way to effectively claw back some of that inefficiency while on battery power, like disabling g-sync, gpu, undervolting cpu, and so on?

 

Adding an HDD, unlike swapping out the boot ssd on the m.2 slot, should be one of the easiest things to do on the laptop. All you need to do is remove the back plate and plug in any 2.5 sata interface drive. If I were you I'd get a 2.5 inch SSD rather than an HDD, because even 7200rpm drives are molasses slow. I'm pretty sure 2.5 inch ssds are easier to find and cheaper than the smaller, m.2 stick ssds as well.

 

I am thinking about getting one, and haven't yet decided whether to get 15 or 17 one.
1. Is there big difference in the temperatures / performance between the two versions? If not - except the numpad and bigger battery life, is there a reason to get 17 version? It seems to be much heavier.
2. What about battery life? The battery on 17 is much bugger. Does it make a big difference?
3. I understand that it is possible to switch to Hybrid mode. How long does it last this way?
4. Is there big difference in performance between 2060 and 2070 max-q one these models? If not - is there a reason to get 2070mq if I don't need the extre 2gb memory?

Thanks.

 

If your main thing is gaming on the laptop I always try to get the best GPU I can in my budget.
There is not a huge performance difference but it’s there
Kalen is getting a RTX 2060 model for comparison so stay tuned .
Both models have very good cooling .
Not a fan of Optimus but getting a gaming laptop for good battery life is almost impossible, ( unless you want Optimus, even then it can be a mixed bag)I just carry my powerbrick with me and plug in when I can.

 

You can disable this in the bios. It’s all good.

 

If I get it right, 2060 is already capable for FHD gaming at maximal resolutions. Wouldn't 2070 be an overkill?

 

Can anyone explain to me what the software enabled HDR means? Not sure I understand that. Thanks.