Lenovo ThinkPad Yoga

Thanks, it seems both lenovo "system update" and "windows update" are up to date, Windows update is set to install automatically.


update 5.46pm. About 1 hour ago I got my wifi working after shutting down the laptop and turning it back on after a few minutes. The wifi has been working as I done the above about 10 minutes ago. Now it has lost the connection again. I using 2 computer as I'm at uni otherwise I wouldn't be able to post this. I just clicked on connect and this time it has connected back to the wi-fi. I have not moved the laptop once in the hour I've been sitting here.

update 2 5.56pm. Connection went again, I ad to choose disconnect and then click connect again foe the internet to come back up.

 

Yes you can. Just replace it with the single band one in the laptop. It's not expensive and you can find it in ebay. You can either get the driver from intel or Lenovo website (if you buy the dual band model which comes with TPY).

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Try going into device manager and find the network adapter, go into Properties, check the Power Management tab and uncheck the box for "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power". See if that helps, I have not had issues with it doing this, but it's worth a try.

 

Forget about screen savers or other adjustments to prevent ghosting. This is a hardware fault & if you are really obsessive, you will notice that even after 30 seconds. There are few options for you:
1. Being extremely lucky so you don't have the issue
2. Ignoring the issue.
3. Waiting for lenovo to admit & solve the issue and replace your LCD later
4. Returning it and feeling free

I was at your place to make my decision last month and still had the option to return when I noticed ghosting. But I decided to keep it and ignore ghosting until lenovo solve the issue.

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In the Feel driver menu, I assigned the button as "eraser".

It works, but I have to pull the pen away from the screen until it is not detected (no circle cursor), then I have to hold the button and bring it back.

If I am writing, and press the button while keeping the pen close to the screen, the button does nothing.

Does that not happen to you?

 

Sorry I didn't install the feel driver because everything works fine as is. I like to keep that as a right click button because I find it useful as such. I also have other digitizers with erasers at the back which I use when I need it. Using my surface pro for almost a year, I've come to discover that having an eraser on your digitizer is a MUST. So whenever I can, I bring extra digitizers with me when I leave the house so I can use the eraser. If you have 20-35 dollars to spare, I'd buy one with an eraser. The stock TPY digitizer is very mediocre, and just gets the job done at best.

 

Just wanted to let you guys know the TPY works well with WIDI technology. I am testing it with the Actiontec ScreenBeam pro that I picked up for $70. Lag is not bad, and quality is as good as using an HDMI cable. I need to do further testing to see how reliable and consistent the connection is though. I'm also considering trying the netgear push2tv wireless receiver and seeing which one works best among the 2, then I'll just keep the one I like.

The way it works is very simple, no drivers needed. Just connect the receive to the t.v. via HDMI cable, then swipe to the right, select devices, project, then "add wireless display." put the code in, press enter, and everything should work as if it was just a second screen. Once you do this one, your device should recognize the screen each time so it connects almost instantly and automatically every time.

 

Regarding game's all should play fine apart from GTA IV but it might work at a lowered res with lower settings. Im running The Last Remnant on Medium ish at 720p without any lag so the ither games should be fine and this is using an i5.

Im an engineering student and also use MATlab alot which works flawlessly as well as CATIA which runs much better then i expected with basically no lag on 3d scrolling. It might get choppy with very complex assemblies but i dont have anything heavy enough to test it with.

Dont bother with the 4600U as its an exoensive upgrade for no noticeable performance increase other then maybe synthetic benchmarks. Tbh i have stuck eith the i5-4200U which lasts me an entire day of taking notes using the digitiser and web browsing. I7 might not make it without restricting the max power on battery etc.

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My thanks to everyone who's given me a reply regarding the decision I need to make. I called and spoke with a Lenovo Billing representative, who told me they have a no-questions asked, 21-day return policy. That means I have until Feb.14 to make a final decision, so at this point, I'm leaning toward returning it.

It makes me really sad too, as I love damn near everything else about this laptop. The size is just right...the weight is just right...it feels solid and sturdy without being bulky and heavy...the keyboard is great to type on, and the touchpad is really, really good, much to my surprise. If only it didn't have this stupid screen issue.

I'll keep you all posted, one way or another. If I return it, the only other machine I am really considering is the Yoga 2 Pro, but that has it's own issues. T_T Hopefully, I'll find something that actually meets all my needs, and doesn't have an ugly built in flaw like this.

Oh well...time to resume my search for the next ultimate notebook for my pen and paper RPGs...*sigh*

 

I had some problems with my Onelink Pro dock and want to give you some insight:


1) The picture looked horrible on my 1920x1200 Dell screen, which was caused by automatic scaling. I also recalibrated Cleartype (search for it in windows to test it yourself). Anyway, automatic scaling can be changed at "display" in your system configuration. Here is a german screenshot of what i talk about: http://blogs.technet.com/cfs-file.a...logapi/1376.SNAGHTML5c9fa89_5F00_381FF418.png
I had to check the option to manually pick a scaling, now it works good on 125%.

2) Screen autorotation is disabled as long as an external monitor is hooked up. If you want to use your Yoga in tablet or tent mode in that scenario, go to your screen-setting (where the resolution can be changed) and change the screen rotation of your laptop to horizontal format (turned).

3) My wacom digitizer was disabled on the tablet and active on the external screen instead. Here is a fix for that problem:

source: Pen on tablet goes on external monitor!

4) My stereo equipment (Sony) works good while the laptop is on, but it makes a very loud and annoying sound as soon as the laptop is off. The stereo equipment doesn't behave this way on my desktop pc... I will test that in the next days for more information.

 

Hello,

When I spoke with the Lenovo Rep, here is what I was told:

If you buy from Lenovo direct (not their outlet) you officially have 21 calendar days from the date your laptop was delivered to make your return. Unofficially, you have 30 calendar days, but I wouldn't push it.

If you buy from the Lenovo outlet, you have 14 calendar days to make your return from date of delivery.

WG1, you may still be able to return it! Jump on it, call Lenovo tomorrow (the Billing department is open from 8am to 9pm EST.

 

Hey, just wondering: did you mention the image retention issue when you asked about a return? And if so, were they aware of it?

I guess my bigger question to everyone is: how likely do you all think it is that Lenovo acknowledges this issue with these LG panels and fixes it? Any indication that later units will get a fixed panel? Mentioned earlier in the thread was how Dell acknowledged the issue with their xps12 and stated it would begin to be fixed in February.

Ahh I'm really wanting to get the yoga but not with a serious ghosting problem that may or may not surface after a number of weeks. It's got me looking at Fujitsu's T904, but I fear it's gonna be pricey.

And... Another question for Soul... I know you're happy with yours. How long have you had it now, about a week? And no traces of image retention?

Same questions, I know... I've just been drooling over this laptop for months and need to spend my money wisely. I'm pretty OCD, too, and any ghosting would probably bug the hell out of me. Thanks to any feedback. Your posts have already been very helpful.

 

I did mention it, but he was a Billing Rep, so he didn't say anything, he just moved on to the next part of our conversation, letting me know the time frames for the return, their inspection time frame (2 days) and refund timeframe (3 days).

This is my first experience with Lenovo...for laptops, I've always gone with HP or Alienware prior to this. I would certainly hope they fix it, but I've heard they've left other devices like this broken the same way, like the Thinkpad Helix.

 

I was really hopeful for this laptop. I've wanted a quality laptop with a digitizer for a long time. I sent my Yoga back on Tuesday. The ghosting issue was really bad, the wifi stopped functioning in any consistent manner, the bluetooth was equally disappointing, the trackpad would go haywire with every reboot.

It seems as if Lenovo may have rushed this product to market. This was my first PC purchase in 5 years. I was on a Mac before and I'm back to Mac. I hope Lenovo gets their act together. This is a great concept, but the hardware just simply isn't there yet.

 

Its anybodies guess if they fix it or not, although Lenovo has had some Image Retention issues in the past, none have been this severe and presented so quickly.

I have had my Yoga for over 2 weeks now and have yet to notice any ghosting so it seems there's panels that are much better and much worse. Seeing as this is the ONLY 12.5" panel at 1080p on the market and LG have clearly acknowledged the issue with a fixed version due around February time which Dell have made their customers aware of. Lenovo will have seen some reports of this issue on the Watermark thread on their forums regarding the Yoga but probably not enough yet for them to warrant an investigation as of yet. Thing is, Lenovo seem to be getting new parts as orders come in hence the long build times for Custom To Order products. Meaning that regardless, when LG start shipping the revised panel and cancel the old one. Lenovo's stocks will also start getting the revised panel. Meaning this issue even if unsolved officially by Lenovo should disappear within the next year or even within the next few months. Meaning you can simply get your Panel changed for a new one which should be the revised panel from LG.

It really is a wait and see thing, but I personally haven't got any ghosting and my screen dims after 5 minutes and turns off after 10 minutes when on battery power, mostly use the Desktop so I should see it visibly by now, showing not all panels are as bad as some of the others. I guess that's why Lenovo is waiting before they make any official announcements, due to it being a bit of a hit and miss thing atm. The product is too new for everybody to experience these issues and rage about it.

 

You had a dud unit clearly, blaming Lenovo for releasing this product too early is nonsensical . This product is not premature in any way, in fact the only issue that's common is the ghosting but some are unbearable and others is unnoticeable. So besides ghosting every single product in the world has the occasional lemon from the factory, which yours clearly was.. Hell even Mac's have laptops that ship with fault and need to be replaced. It happens to EVERYTHING.

Its just simply probability, no manufacturing line is 100% perfect, even the best are just 99% perfect, but 99% of a 1000 means that 10 products per thousand are duds or have defects. The trackpad/WiFi and Bluetooth are excellent on majority of systems and the only trackpad complaints I have heard are by people who were too used to the original design ThinkPad trackpad and don't like the new one. An adjustment issue, not a manufacturing one. Get it exchanged for a new one from the factory and I bet all of those issues will be gone, the ghosting is I guess inevitable but there are many different experiences across this board, I have been using mine for 2 and a bit weeks straight without any sign of ghosting showing not all panels are bad from the get go.

 

The problem with this ghosting issue is that it doesn't seem to show up right away...it seems to take at least one to three months before it hits...but that means it will show up AFTER you can return the thing.

Personally, I'm the anxious, OCD type, so this issue is bugging me enough that I'm probably going to call tomorrow, and make the arrangements to return it, before I get too attached. I hope someone from Lenovo sees this, because I really, really like this laptop...I wanted to make this the machine that I'd use consistantly at my gaming table...but for now, it looks like I'll be passing, and just using my M14X R1 until it drops.

 

Just make sure they connect you to the proper department and explain them why you are making this decision.

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No need to wait even for one month. I am also an OCD type and was looking for it from the very beginning and noticed the presence of ghosting after 4 days. It gradually got worse during 2 weeks and very noticeable.

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Thanks for the detailed guideline.

 

I've had exactly the same issue. Turns out, that the router is the problem. The router being an older model, the newer TPY keeps dropping connections despite all other devices having no problem. Have now connected to another router & has been rock solid so far. There's no firmware update on my router as yet.

 

I have already replaced my 1 TB HDD with 1 TB SSD after I got my TPY last month. I think there is a strange issue with recovery partition after cloning HDD to SSD.

When I want to access recovery partition to reset my PC through "Setting>Change PC Setting>Recovery>Advanced Startup" there would be no problem. It will restart the PC and boot into recovery mode.

Trying to do the recovery through the "USB Recovery Media" that I have created earlier is also successful.

This shows that both my Recovery Partition and USB Recovery Media are functional.

However, it does not boot to Recovery Mode when I want to access it through "Normal PC Startup" after pressing "Enter" to interrupt normal boot and "Pressing F11" and I will be greeted with the following screen:



It looks like that the original MBR for Recovery Partition in HDD is not compatible with the one in Cloned SSD or has been corrupted while cloning with EaseUs Todo Backup and should be re-written. This problem does not exist with MBR for "Windows Partition" because it boot normally.

Any similar experience from those who have cloned HDD to SSD?

 

When I cloned my old MacBook Drive to a 128gb SSD I used a Disk Cloner USB 3.0 Docking & Cloning Station for 2.5" & 3.5" SATA Hard Drives | LINDY UK

I wonder if using one of these or something similar instead of a software disc cloning tool might work?

 

-.- Did you even search the thread at all?

A couple of pages back Soul talks through the steps to fix recovery partition after cloning.

Page 254.

Do a little searching first next time.

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Have you tried search on this forum?

 

You can't be serious? The drivers on this notebook were crap from day one and they have only started to function in some normal manner in the last few weeks. The trackpad wouldn't work correctly, the black hole issue in the digitizer, the numerous shipping delays, ghosting, wifi dropouts, etc.

I was going to try to stick it out with the Yoga, but a replacement laptop was going to take over a MONTH to receive. Lenovo is clearly having some manufacturing issues. I understand that there are defective units in every manufacturing process, however, this appears to be a systemic issue with multiple hardware components.

I paid $1600+ for my Yoga. When I pay a premium price, I expect a premium product with premium service. Nothing about this experience with Lenovo was premium.

 

This issue is totally different. Please read the post in detail before you give a comment.

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This issue is quite common for Boot Partition but not for recovery partition. The solution for Boot Partition is very simple by rewriting the MBR. Very few people experienced it so far for boot partition and since it is not an active partition and does not have an assigned drive letter, rewriting the MBR would be an issue.

I don't have the original drive to test the cloning with other softwares.

I think this is a bug with EasUS Todo Backup when you change the size of partition while cloning.

I am rather sure that if anyone has used EasUS Todo backup for cloning and has resized the partitions should use recovery according to one of the methods I gave in my earlier post. It's not available through F11 & unfortunately no solution has been given anywhere so far.

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Of course he has not even taken a look at the forum before giving comments. Otherwise he would have seen my comment about the post by Soul347 in Page 258.

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In this modern tech world thats the price you pay being an early adopter. Doesnt matter how much the product cost theres always early issues on a first generation product. Lenovo fixed many of them within a few weeks which is good going as some companies take months.

Besides ghosting all otherr issues have been solved for about 3-4 weeks now. Its true Lenovo have a stupidly archaic building process and tbh that should be fixed in this modern age but otherwise its the same soet of niggles you get from most first gen products.

Its unfortunately become practice that if you dont want such issues, wait 3 months before buying something brand new in a new series..

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Yes i have, its relatively easy seeing as it lists it in order of posting date, otherwise just scanning the last 5 or so pages only takes a few minutes.

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Been following this thread since day one, and your issue seemed like the same one to me.

Stupid assumptions..

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Last time I tried search it didn't work, looks like the search has been fixed.

 

The panel has image retention or ghosting? Is not the same. Ghosting is produced by slow response time of the monitor. In games, for example, it can be irritating. By the video someone posted before about MacBook your are talking about image retention. Whereas I can live with ghosting, I don't think the same about image retention. It can be very annoying. Can I assume that the image retention of TPY is the same as MacBook of this video o its worse?:

 MacBook Pro Retina Ghosting | 15" Samsung vs. LG Panel (Burn-in, Image Retention Problem) - YouTube

I hope Lenovo admits the problem and offers a change for all.

 

Your comment in Page 258 (#2575) indicates that you did not even follow the same page before putting comments. Once more read my comment in Page 258 (#2571).

The issue is that you advise people to make a search in the forum before "Asking Questions" but you don't even see the SAME page properly before "Putting Comments".

It was a quite wise assumption.

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It's almost the same.

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I just tried this. I get the exact same thing. Perhaps another system file also needs to be edited to get this functioning properly. Personally I don't mind so much and am not going to go to the effort to be fixed since I can restore my computer from within windows and I have a USB Recovery Drive anytime I need to use it.

 

Then original calibration had too much yellow then your calibration have saturated blues. But its great share, thx u.

 

I ordered my sleeve from lenovo site, its what they originally offer with the laptop purcase. Its 13" double sided, so you can use it as black sleeve or flip it insideout and its red. Fits nicely for work and romance

 

Couldn't find anyone that had done this, so went out on a limb and bought this. Works like a champ.

 

Is this the same AC card that Lenovo offers?

 

Anybody noticed an issue where resuming from sleep after the latest BIOS update occasionally leaves the laptop in muted mode?

As in the orange light on the F1 key is lit and no sound comes out of the speakers until the laptop is unmuted etc.

Not a huge issue just wondering if this is something others face as well.

If I recall correctly Lenovo implement a whitelist into the BIOS of their thinkpad's allowing only certain WiFi cards to work, meaning it would have to be the same AC card used in other Yoga's for it to work correctly.

I might be wrong but I remember seeing that much earlier in this thread.

 

In this way we should always keep the USB Recovery Drive with us. Otherwise if the windows becomes corrupted and does not boot, we will be in trouble and the recovery partition will be useless.

Rewriting the MBR for Recovery Drive will solve the issue because this is a boot error. But if not done properly, it may lead to unpredictable damage to recovery partition.

I also think we better ignore the issue and keep our USB Recovery Drive in a safe place :-D

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I am really not expecting myself to be put in a situation where I can't boot to windows. I really take care of my operating system in the sense that I don't do anything risky enough to compromise the security of my system, get viruses, etc.. If ever there is a time I can't boot to windows, it would probably be when a hardware issue takes place like a failed SSD, in which there isn't much I can really do except swap back to my original SSD drive that came with the TPY. If I do mess up my software, which I've never done before, I am ready to use my USB recovery drive which I bought solely for that purpose. The only times I've ever had to reset back to factory default was when I felt like starting fresh again, but I don't expect to do that anytime soon, if ever.

 

10x.
Unfortunately I don't have another powered set of speakers. Headphones might not produce the same result unless they have a really high sensitivity as they do not have an active amplifier. This is not happening when connecting to my old T400 though, so I assume it's not the speakers fault.

 

Last couple of driver version have been really flaky - I had a lot of similar issues. I'm using version 16.5.3.6 and it has been rock-solid.

 

Same card, but does not seem to be Lenovo branded. I couldn't find anyone selling the Lenovo part. There was a reference on the Lenovo forums that some people have had luck with the card sold by M Factors for the Yoga 2 Pro. Even though it is a different form factor (M.2 vs. PCI-E for the TP Yoga), I gave it a shot. The TP Yoga booted up with no issues and recognized the card without needing to load a driver (it is using version 16.6.0.8). I connected to a 5GHz network and things look good so far.

 

could you please give me the url of the wifi card please?

 

And i have a problem lately with my tpy
the ac adapter is plugged in and the battery says plugged in but not charging.
whats going on. I tried rebooting and all, still nothing seems to fix this problem!